Safe to stor tap water in Tropicana gallon orange juice containers?
m...@privacy.net
the gallon size Tropicana containers I buy orange juice
in and filling with tap water for emergencies.
This way when I move I can just empty them and throw in
recycling bin and buy new ones at other end. I only
own things that can be moved in a car so must keep
possessions to minimum.
Are these containers safe for that?
knews4...@yahoo.com
It's just plastic.
Put 3-4 drops of bleach in each bottle before storing.
Curly Surmudgeon
Yes. Bisphenol A from the plastic will leach into your water but if
you're resorting to that drinking source it will be an emergency anyhow.
Not much of a risk short term and leaves your body rapidly afterward.
Bisphenol A is a chemical, an endocrine disruptor, which your body
recognizes as a hormone. Bad for kids, worse for children, mildly risky
for adults but only long term.
Unless very careful you're already eating some. It covers the inside of
cans and is in all food plastics. Causes obesity, infant brain
development and neurobehavioral development problems. Some researchers
claim the rise of ADD is due to bisphenol A.
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m...@privacy.net
>Yes. Bisphenol A from the plastic will leach into your water but if
>you're resorting to that drinking source it will be an emergency anyhow.
>Not much of a risk short term and leaves your body rapidly afterward.
These are made of #2 plastic....same as milk jugs but
heavier.
Do these contain BPA?
Curly Surmudgeon
Some, #2, HDPE, #4, LDPE, and #5 PP have *less* BPA than #7, a small
amount. It's the hard Lexan bottles, colored (#7) that are really nasty.
Better to use clean steel drums, the rust can be filtered out and
additional iron is good for your heath.
m...@privacy.net
>Some, #2, HDPE, #4, LDPE, and #5 PP have *less* BPA than #7, a small
>amount. It's the hard Lexan bottles, colored (#7) that are really nasty.
Yeah I knew it was in Lexan type.....wasn't aware it
was in all types tho.
Well like you say this will be emergency water only....
so wont worry abt it in that case.
Def want to stay away from it on daily use tho, yes?
Curly Surmudgeon
Yes.
Frank
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:12:27 -0600, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> Curly Surmudgeon<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Bisphenol A from the plastic will leach into your water but if
>>> you're resorting to that drinking source it will be an emergency anyhow.
>>> Not much of a risk short term and leaves your body rapidly afterward.
>>
>> These are made of #2 plastic....same as milk jugs but heavier.
>>
>> Do these contain BPA?
>
> Some, #2, HDPE, #4, LDPE, and #5 PP have *less* BPA than #7, a small
> amount. It's the hard Lexan bottles, colored (#7) that are really nasty.
>
> Better to use clean steel drums, the rust can be filtered out and
> additional iron is good for your heath.
>
You're wrong about bisphenol A being present in any quantities in the
poly olefin plastics. There is only potential for it being present is
in the poly carbonates and epoxides used in can linings.
I would be more concerned about the light stability of the HDPE, I've
had milk jugs of water in the garage spring leaks on long storage.
m...@privacy.net
>I would be more concerned about the light stability of the HDPE, I've
>had milk jugs of water in the garage spring leaks on long storage.
These orange juice jugs are much heavier than milk jugs
Plus I will keep them in dark place
Is there still a problem given that info?
Frank
No. They should be fine. I've had jugs of bottled water break when
stored for a long period even in the basement, so I would have a
secondary container to contain spill. Otherwise they are food grade
plastic. Some grades of polyethylene are made to degrade in light and
disintegrate with time.
Strabo
I don't know what your juice jugs are made of but water can
be safely stored in large plastic soft drink bottles. They're
made of a hard plastic and thought not to leak chemicals and
designed for a shelf life under high pressure of at least several
years. Shielded from light and used as water bottles I think
they'll last much longer.
Curly Surmudgeon
Those are reputed to be the worst Bisphenol A offender. But even if
true, we're speaking of a disaster scenario. I'd pack a few tarps and
rope to snag condensation too.
Hang the tarp horizontally over, and near, vegetation in the evening.
Toss a rock in the center with a container below. As the moisture
evaporates and rises it encounters the night-cooled tarp and condenses on
the underside. The rock in the center is a low point to which the
condensate runs and drips into your bucket.
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Strabo
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:52:55 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>
>> m...@privacy.net wrote:
>>> Frank <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would be more concerned about the light stability of the HDPE, I've
>>>> had milk jugs of water in the garage spring leaks on long storage.
>>> These orange juice jugs are much heavier than milk jugs
>>>
>>> Plus I will keep them in dark place
>>>
>>> Is there still a problem given that info?
>> >
>> >
>> I don't know what your juice jugs are made of but water can be safely
>> stored in large plastic soft drink bottles. They're made of a hard
>> plastic and thought not to leak chemicals and designed for a shelf life
>> under high pressure of at least several years. Shielded from light and
>> used as water bottles I think they'll last much longer.
>
> Those are reputed to be the worst Bisphenol A offender. But even if
> true, we're speaking of a disaster scenario. I'd pack a few tarps and
> rope to snag condensation too.
>
You're right. My readings after Y2K found the soda bottle plastic to
be stable. Very disconcerting to find that it's now in so many food
containers.
http://www.ewg.org/reports/bisphenola
I retract my previous recommendation concerning the food safety of soda
bottles.