On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:07:06 -0500, Cliff
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/President-Obama-Accepts-Nobel-Peace-Prize-78955552.html
> "President Obama Accepts Nobel Peace Prize"
> No winger ever won one.
Oops! Caught LYING (again):
"Dr. Henry Alfred Kissinger (born May 27, 1923), is a German-born
American political scientist, diplomat, and recipient of the Nobel
Peace Prize. He served as National Security Advisor and later
concurrently as Secretary of State in the Nixon Administration."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
Gave Vietnam back to the people of Vietnam.
Blocked Nixon from starting a nuclear war.
What winger would ever have done either?
Wingers lay eggs.
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>On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:33:43 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:37:58 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>
>>On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:07:06 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/President-Obama-Accepts-Nobel-Peace-Prize-78955552.html
>>> "President Obama Accepts Nobel Peace Prize"
>>> No winger ever won one.
>>
>>Oops! Caught LYING (again):
>>
>>"Dr. Henry Alfred Kissinger (born May 27, 1923), is a German-born
>>American political scientist, diplomat, and recipient of the Nobel
>>Peace Prize. He served as National Security Advisor and later
>>concurrently as Secretary of State in the Nixon Administration."
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
>
> Gave Vietnam back to the people of Vietnam.
> Blocked Nixon from starting a nuclear war.
>
> What winger would ever have done either?
BTW, Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
accord was signed.
Did you pay them for the quite hefty damages they suffered?
Learn to like your LIES.
They will NEVER go away...
Oops! Caught LYING, again.
"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
YOU LIED.
> Learn to like your LIES.
>
> They will NEVER go away...
Write that on your bathroom wall.
Wanker.
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>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> Cliff wrote:
>
>>>Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
>>>accord was signed.
>>
>>Oops! Caught LYING, again.
>>
>>"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
>>ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
>>
>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>
>>YOU LIED.
>
>Promised and kept the promise are not the same thing.
>
>http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/lundy/v/political1.html
>Nixon gave Prime Minister Pham Van Dong a letter in 1973, which
>established financial post-war reconstruction...in the range of $3.25
>billion of grant aid over five years (Stern 11).
>...
>But when the numbers of prisoners released seemed woefully small, the
>Nixon administration did not provide the financial reparations pledged
>by the United States.
>
>http://www.stormingmedia.us/69/6937/A693734.html
>The Kissinger-Le Duc Tho package of "peace" agreements signed in Paris
>in 1973 contained commitments for U.S. financial aid to restore the
>war-torn Vietnamese economy. While the United States maintained that
>Hanoi's repeated violations of other parts of the accords rendered the
>offer of assistance null and void, ...
>
>http://25thaviation.org/id795.htm
>On January 27, 1973, all four parties to the Vietnam conflict-the
>United States, South Vietnam, the PRG, and North Vietnam-signed the
>Treaty of Paris. The final terms provided for the release of all
>American prisoners of war from North Vietnam; the withdrawal of all
>U.S. forces from South Vietnam; the end of all foreign military
>operations in Laos and Cambodia; a cease-fire between North and South
>Vietnam; the formation of a National Council of Reconciliation to help
>South Vietnam form a new government; and continued U.S. military and
>economic aid to South Vietnam. In a secret addition to the treaty
>Nixon also promised $3.25 billion in reparations for the
>reconstruction of ravaged North Vietnam, an agreement that Congress
>ultimately refused to uphold.
Yep. Wingers like dumb idiot Patriot Games
lie all the time.
Is it congenital idiocy or studied ignorance?
Pathetic in any case.
How can they imagine that will not get caught yet again?
VERY slow learners.
Like Palin.
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Watch out, "Patriot Games," AKA Bob Milby, will threaten to kill you...
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True but not exactly relevant.
The 'secret' letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)
the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
The Paris Peace Accords?
http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/ppa1973.html (January 17, 1973)
"the United States will contribute to healing the wounds of war and to postwar
reconstruction of the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam and throughout Indochina."
http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
"In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
called it "reconstruction.""
HTH
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Cliff
You even lie about what was posted (forger).
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> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:46:08 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:28:02 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>>> Learn to like your LIES.
>>> They will NEVER go away...
>
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>wrote:
>>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU... Wanna send me your address
>>> LIKE YOU PROMISED?
>> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
>> LIAR AND A COWARD.
>
> That would a "NO!"
>
> The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
> COMPLETE!
>
> Game over, Coward.
Man, you are one sick bastard. Not only did you wimp out of your death
threat but make shit up and attribute it to me.
Liar, coward, racist and dumb as a fencepost. You're a real work of art.
Wanker.
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Good, you noticed too.
Anyone with half a brain would STFU and let their faux pas die but then
again Bob Milby doesn't have half a brain...
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Cheese-Bob is relentless, too. What is it with these "Bobs?"
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:16:19 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> Sure he isn't a compilation of the known rightwingers that occupy the
> Usenet?
>
> Like Beck, Pajama, Ultraz, Robertson?
I've considered that "Patriot Games," AKA Bob Milby, is a left wing troll
trying to ridicule the Republican Party but not for long. Certain
aspects of "Patriot Games" would not be fodder for a troll.
No, Bob Milby is just a garden variety fool even if an extreme fool. In
fact the word "extreme" is insufficient to describe his foolishness.
"Patriot Games" is among the best advertisement the Democrats have.
Right along with Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, teabaggers, Mark Sanford, John
Ensign, Mike Huckabee, Rush Limbaugh and the bushbots who still claim
there are/were WMD's in Iraq.
I don't like the Democrats much but they don't pose the hazard to our
life, wallet, liberty and freedom that these Republicans do. The best
way to thwart the Republican wackos (Yeah, I know that's redundant) is to
engage the likes of "Patriot Games" and show the world what an idiot he
is and that is what they're going to get with a Republican administration.
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>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:26:06 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>> Cliff wrote:
>
>>>>>Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
>>>>>accord was signed.
>
>>>>Oops! Caught LYING, again.
>
>>>>"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
>>>>ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
>>>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
>>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>>YOU LIED.
>
>>>Promised and kept the promise are not the same thing.
>>
>>True but not exactly relevant.
>
>Yes it is. You said we never promised. My cites say that's wrong.
>We did promise but backed out when they didn't keep their side of the
>deal. It WAS promised. It was NOT delivered. Stop trying to play
>semantic games.
Give Vietnam back the POWs or replacements.
Use Chickenhawks & wingers.
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Cliff
He worded it as "reconstruction" funding.
>
>YOU LIED.
You are caught.
>> http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
>> "In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
>>promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
>>called it "reconstruction.""
>
>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>
>YOU LIED.
You are caught.
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Everybody sees it.
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Notice that the wanker didn't deny the lie but tried to send you on a
wild goose chase looking for what doesn't exist?
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> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't like the Democrats much but they don't pose the hazard to our
>>life, wallet, liberty and freedom that these Republicans do. The best
>>way to thwart the Republican wackos (Yeah, I know that's redundant) is
>>to engage the likes of "Patriot Games" and show the world what an idiot
>>he is and that is what they're going to get with a Republican
>>administration.
>
> It's what I learned from Kennemur long ago when he was kicking the shit
> out of Knicklas, Beck, Robertson, Ultraz, Lowe, (lurker B.), and Morton.
>
> I nailed Knicklas when he made hang-up phone calls....causing him to
> leave for a few years supposedly picking up a Moscow Subway "bride"
> those years he was gone.
Yup, time consuming but rewarding. Racists, bigots and wankers are best
dealt with by public humiliation.
Man, his life must really suck..
Wrong.
I said Cliff The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to
Vietnam."
I said Cliff The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to
Vietnam" because Cliff The Commie DID CLAIM that "Kissinger promised
reparations to Vietnam."
Cliff The Commie IS A LIAR.
Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
>My cites say that's wrong.
Nope.
>We did promise but backed out when they didn't keep their side of the
>deal. It WAS promised.
No, it wasn't "promised." The then-President STATED an INTENTION.
>It was NOT delivered.
True, but not relevant to Cliff The Commie's CLAIM that "Kissinger
promised reparations to Vietnam."
>Stop trying to play semantic games.
Try to pay attention.
>Do you have a cite
Of course I do:
http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/nixonletter.html
>or are we just to believe all the cites I gave are
>wrong or lying?
They are OPINION.
>My first cite says it was in 1973.
Perhaps because they HOPED no one would check and find out it was
AFTER the Treaty was signed?
>Perhaps after February but in the same year and part of the same treaty.
No, it was NOT part of the Treaty.
It was a SEPARATE STANDALONE Letter.
>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>My cites say the reparation letter was an addition to the treaty.
And your cites are WRONG.
>How
>is an addition to a treaty specifying reparations, "consistent with"
>your claim that there never WAS a promise?
Your LIE is exposed. I didn't "claim" there wasn't a promise. Cliff
The Commie CLAIMED there WAS a promise by Kissinger. I clearly PROVED
that there was NOT a promise by Kissinger.
>We are going to need some cites to support your claim.
No, I'm not. And I'm not going to play "Flip The Claim" WITH A LIAR.
>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>Yikes. Your quote is from 1992. And that is more relevant then
>something from 1973 - the time of the treaty ????
Yes, it is entirely relevant, accurate, and has NEVER BEEN REFUTED.
>Again, we need some cites.
Good luck with that...
>You are making claims contrary to mainstream history.
Don't you mean mainstream Communist DemocRAT history?
I asked you a hundred times if you wanted an email address for me...
I'm asking you AGAIN. Last chance...
WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
ADDRESS?
_ Yes.
_ No.
Pick one.
> Cliff The Commie IS A LIAR.
>
> Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
When are you going to threaten to kill Winston and Cliff too?
Wanker.
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:16:19 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
Ha! Now your excuse is that you need my permission to send your email
address? You're a fucking idiot.
No amount of subterfuge is going to change history. You threatened to
kill me. I'm still here farting in your face. I'll continue to
humiliate you too.
And Wanker.
I'd read the thread so his rich fantesy life only worked
for him.
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Cliff
Unlike a moron I actually checked the document.
>
>Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
>
>>My cites say that's wrong.
>
>Nope.
Yep.
>
>>We did promise but backed out when they didn't keep their side of the
>>deal. It WAS promised.
>
>No, it wasn't "promised." The then-President STATED an INTENTION.
So THAT crooked winger lied.
What else is new?
>
>>It was NOT delivered.
>
>True, but not relevant to Cliff The Commie's CLAIM that "Kissinger
>promised reparations to Vietnam."
So he lied when he said so to Vietnam?
Just like links to the actual document & the meanings of words, right?
>>My first cite says it was in 1973.
>
>Perhaps because they HOPED no one would check and find out it was
>AFTER the Treaty was signed?
Nixon just reconfirmed.
Clearly he knew what Kissinger had promised.
>>Perhaps after February but in the same year and part of the same treaty.
>
>No, it was NOT part of the Treaty.
It confirmed the agreement.
It was not a treaty.
>It was a SEPARATE STANDALONE Letter.
>
>>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>My cites say the reparation letter was an addition to the treaty.
>
>And your cites are WRONG.
So it did not exist, eh?
>
>>How
>>is an addition to a treaty specifying reparations, "consistent with"
>>your claim that there never WAS a promise?
>
>Your LIE is exposed. I didn't "claim" there wasn't a promise. Cliff
>The Commie CLAIMED there WAS a promise by Kissinger. I clearly PROVED
>that there was NOT a promise by Kissinger.
Nope. You just copied what he said about it many years later.
Or what someone said he said.
>
>>We are going to need some cites to support your claim.
>
>No, I'm not. And I'm not going to play "Flip The Claim" WITH A LIAR.
IOW You cannot.
But you love to lie.
As we all know well.
>
>>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>Yikes. Your quote is from 1992. And that is more relevant then
>>something from 1973 - the time of the treaty ????
>
>Yes, it is entirely relevant, accurate, and has NEVER BEEN REFUTED.
Like by looking at & reading the actual agreement?
>
>>Again, we need some cites.
>
>Good luck with that...
>
>>You are making claims contrary to mainstream history.
>
>Don't you mean mainstream Communist DemocRAT history?
IOW You wish to lie.
We know.
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You begging for a date?
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And yet again we find the Nuisance Boys shouting insults at
one another over some slight incomprehensible to the rational
mind. Clear evidence of their dull nature.
YOU WORDED IT AS "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
YOU LIED.
>>> http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
>>> "In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
>>>promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
>>>called it "reconstruction.""
>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>YOU LIED.
See above.
"Everybody sees it" isn't proof ESPECIALLY since Curly THE COWARD
Suckmudgeon REPEATED HIS REFUSAL (below).
hahahahahahahahaha!!!
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
==== UPDATE! ========
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:07:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>> I asked you a hundred times if you wanted an email address for me...
>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>> ADDRESS?
>> _ Yes.
>> _ No.
>> Pick one.
>Pick your nose.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
>>>> Why won't you provide your ADDRESS as PROMISED?
>>>No, that's not the question.
>> Yes, it is.
>> History is NOW:
>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>> ADDRESS?
>> __ Yes.
>> __ No.
>> Pick one.
>Pick your nose. You're not setting the agenda.
Yes, I am. Yes, I did.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
>>>-You ran and hid for weeks before and after.
>> Prove it.
>>>Google provides.
>> Yes it does! Here is a DIRECT LINK to my Google Posting:
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?
>hl=en&enc_user=rnFUuBMAAAAx98ToQl1Ygt96eyqtZ70FWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww
>> Or: http://tinyurl.com/5u4ytt
>> Prove that I "ran and hid for weeks before and after."
>> FAILURE TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM will be YOUR CONFESSION as a LIAR.
>That's your proof? Here's real proof:
I gave you the Link. You FAILED to FIND ANY DATES that I wasn't
posting...
That STANDS as YOUR CONFESSION that YOU are a LIAR.
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
==== UPDATE! ========
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:07:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>> I asked you a hundred times if you wanted an email address for me...
>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>> ADDRESS?
>> _ Yes.
>> _ No.
>> Pick one.
>Pick your nose.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
>>>> Why won't you provide your ADDRESS as PROMISED?
>>>No, that's not the question.
>> Yes, it is.
>> History is NOW:
>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>> ADDRESS?
>> __ Yes.
>> __ No.
>> Pick one.
>Pick your nose. You're not setting the agenda.
Yes, I am. Yes, I did.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
>>>-You ran and hid for weeks before and after.
>> Prove it.
>>>Google provides.
>> Yes it does! Here is a DIRECT LINK to my Google Posting:
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?
>hl=en&enc_user=rnFUuBMAAAAx98ToQl1Ygt96eyqtZ70FWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww
>> Or: http://tinyurl.com/5u4ytt
>> Prove that I "ran and hid for weeks before and after."
>> FAILURE TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM will be YOUR CONFESSION as a LIAR.
>That's your proof? Here's real proof:
I gave you the Link. You FAILED to FIND ANY DATES that I wasn't
posting...
That STANDS as YOUR CONFESSION that YOU are a LIAR.
That would a "NO!"
Wow, Cliff, now you're the object of his fantasies too! Isn't that
special?
Replying to yourself?
Heh, what drugs are you on today?
Wanker.
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
==== UPDATE! ========
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:07:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
hahahahahahahha!!
>>Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
>>>My cites say that's wrong.
>>Nope.
>>>We did promise but backed out when they didn't keep their side of the
>>>deal. It WAS promised.
>>No, it wasn't "promised." The then-President STATED an INTENTION.
>>>It was NOT delivered.
>>True, but not relevant to Cliff The Commie's CLAIM that "Kissinger
>>promised reparations to Vietnam."
Prove it...
>>>My first cite says it was in 1973.
>>Perhaps because they HOPED no one would check and find out it was
>>AFTER the Treaty was signed?
> Nixon just reconfirmed.
> Clearly he knew what Kissinger had promised.
Prove it.
>>>Perhaps after February but in the same year and part of the same treaty.
>>No, it was NOT part of the Treaty.
>>It was a SEPARATE STANDALONE Letter.
>>>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>>My cites say the reparation letter was an addition to the treaty.
>>And your cites are WRONG.
> So it did not exist, eh?
Try to pay attention, Liar.
>>>How
>>>is an addition to a treaty specifying reparations, "consistent with"
>>>your claim that there never WAS a promise?
>>Your LIE is exposed. I didn't "claim" there wasn't a promise. Cliff
>>The Commie CLAIMED there WAS a promise by Kissinger. I clearly PROVED
>>that there was NOT a promise by Kissinger.
>>>We are going to need some cites to support your claim.
>>No, I'm not. And I'm not going to play "Flip The Claim" WITH A LIAR.
>>>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>>Yikes. Your quote is from 1992. And that is more relevant then
>>>something from 1973 - the time of the treaty ????
>>Yes, it is entirely relevant, accurate, and has NEVER BEEN REFUTED.
> Like by looking at & reading the actual agreement?
Prove it.
Permission? No.
Commitment? YES.
And YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
>No amount of subterfuge is going to change history.
Correct, YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:50:40 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>>COMPLETE!
>
> Hmmm, I should think that kind of vision would be hard what with a head
> stuck up the closest rightwing asshole, PeeGee.
>
> What ya using for light?
His alcoholic nose.
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:58:04 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:35:33 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>>wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:16:19 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>You're a real work of art.
>>> I asked you a hundred times if you wanted an email address for me...
>>> I'm asking you AGAIN. Last chance... WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME
>>> ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL ADDRESS?
>>> _ Yes.
>>> _ No.
>>> Pick one.
>>Now your excuse is that you need my permission to send your email
>>address?
>
> Permission? No.
>
> Commitment? YES.
>
> And YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
>
>>No amount of subterfuge is going to change history.
>
> Correct, YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
Funny, I'm still here where you were supposed to be to carry out your
death threat. Since I am still here and you aren't your cry doesn't ring
true. Obviously you've failed to kill me. Obviously you've not arrived.
Keep flailing. Humiliating you is delightful.
Run, COWARD! RUN!
>> And YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
>>>No amount of subterfuge is going to change history.
>> Correct, YOU RAN AWAY TWICE!
>Funny, I'm still here...
And EVERYBODY STILL SEES you DUCKING...
Hahahahahahhaha!!!
If that were the case you'd not have to lie or snip my words:
>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:55:42 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:08:57 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:26:06 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>>>>>Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
>>>>>>>accord was signed.
>>>>>>Oops! Caught LYING, again.
>>>>>>"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
>>>>>>ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
>>>>>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
>>>>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>>>>YOU LIED.
>>>>>Promised and kept the promise are not the same thing.
>>>>True but not exactly relevant.
>>>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>> The Paris Peace Accords?
>>> http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/ppa1973.html (January 17, 1973)
>>> "the United States will contribute to healing the wounds of war and to postwar
>>>reconstruction of the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam and throughout Indochina."
>>
>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>
>>YOU LIED.
>
>You ignore my cite.
>http://www.stormingmedia.us/69/6937/A693734.html
>The Kissinger-Le Duc Tho package of "peace" agreements signed in Paris
>in 1973 contained commitments for U.S. financial aid to restore the
>war-torn Vietnamese economy.
>
>Kissinger was our negotiator.
>
>Give us some proof that is wrong, or it's YOU who must be the liar.
Wingers are just not very bright. Or natural born liars. Or both.
Reparation:
compensation (given or received) for an insult or injury;
(usually plural) compensation exacted from a defeated nation by the victors
repair: the act of putting something in working order again
something done or paid in expiation of a wrong; "how can I make amends"
reparation is replenishment of a previously inflicted loss by the criminal to
the victim. Monetary restitution is a common form of reparation. ...
A payment of time, effort or money to undue past transgression(s); The act of
renewing, restoring, etc., or the state of being renewed or repaired; as, the
reparation of a bridge or of a highway; To make payment of time, effort or money
to undo past transgression(s)
Compensation in money or materials payable by a defeated nation for damages to
or expenditures sustained by another nation as a result of ...
Payment or other compensation provided by a government to a group of people or
to another country to compensate for loss or damage that it has caused.
Internationally, reparations have been paid after a war by the losers to the
winners, most notably by Germany after World War I.
Indemnification for damages caused. Compensation in money or goods required
from a defeated power by a victor. Plural form generally used in historical
contexts.
>
>>> http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
>>> "In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
>>>promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
>>>called it "reconstruction.""
>>
>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>
>>YOU LIED.
>
>See above. Saying the same thing twice does not make it truer. Cough
>up with some evidence to prove your claims.
--
Cliff
> Wingers are just not very bright. Or natural born liars. Or both.
Bob Milby, AKA "Patriot Games," isn't your typical "winger". He's an
idiot that constantly amazes me that he's even able to find usenet.
Yes, he lies. Yes, he's dumb as a fencepost. But on top of all that
he's got a serious anal obsession and is bat-shit crazy.
Don't mistake Milby for a "typical winger" and definitely not as a
conservative.
He's just a wanker.
Of course Kissinger was the Chief Negotiator, that is both true and
irrelevant.
>or it's YOU who must be the liar.
Wrong.
Cliffy The Commie said: "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
Feel free to CITE from the ACTUAL TREATY where "Kissinger promised
reparations to Vietnam."
Oops! You can't...
>>> http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
>>> "In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
>>>promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
>>>called it "reconstruction.""
>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>YOU LIED.
>Saying the same thing twice does not make it truer.
But it does allow YOU to focus your tiny mind on the ONLY element in
question:
Cliffy The Commie said: "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
>Cough up with some evidence to prove your claims.
Did that...
And, NO, I'm going to play 'Flip That Claim' with a LIAR.
Cliffy The Commie said: "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
The BURDEN of PROOF is on YOU.
If YOU think America "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where America "promised
reparations to Vietnam."
If YOU think Kissinger "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where Kissinger "promised
reparations to Vietnam."
Case closed.
>Feel free to CITE from the ACTUAL TREATY where "Kissinger promised
>reparations to Vietnam."
Moron.
WHAT "TREATY"?
I said nothing about any TREATY.
Go take remedial US Citizenship classes.
--
Cliff
>>Cough up with some evidence to prove your claims.
>
>Did that...
>
>And, NO, I'm going to play 'Flip That Claim' with a LIAR.
>
>Cliffy The Commie said: "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>
>Cliffy The Commie LIED.
>
>The BURDEN of PROOF is on YOU.
>
>If YOU think America "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
>the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where America "promised
>reparations to Vietnam."
>
>If YOU think Kissinger "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
>the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where Kissinger "promised
>reparations to Vietnam."
>
>Case closed.
Liar.
You are claiming a treaty as a requirement.
--
Cliff
All true, all irrelevant.
>>Cliff The Commie IS A LIAR.
>>Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
>>>My cites say that's wrong.
>Your cite is from Kissinger, twenty years after the fact, trying to
>cover his reputation and spin history.
The cite is from Kissinger TELLING THE TRUE FACTS.
The BURDEN of REFUTING Kissinger's statement IS ON YOU.
>>>>The 'secret' letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)
>>>Do you have a cite
>>Of course I do:
>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/nixonletter.html
>Which says in part
>"The Department released on May 19, 1977, the text of a message dated
>February 1, 1973, "
I knew that. Did you have a point?
>Yet earlier you wrote.
>>|| The 'secret' letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)
>>|| the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>|| Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>|| paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>Message-ID: <9dlpk5t5bfnnmrpc7...@4ax.com>
Are you CONFUSED by the fact that we RELEASED the copy of the letter
in 1977 and the letter was written in 1973?
>Let's recap: Your cite tells us it was dated 2/1/73. YOU tell us it
>was written an unspecified time after that date.
Wrong. I told you PRECISELY when the letter was written.
What part of "letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)"
don't you understand?
Feel free to EXPLAIN what part of "February 1, 1973" is an
"unspecified time."
>If you want us to
>buy that, you will need some cites about when it was actually composed
>and why it was, supposedly, back dated.
Thanks for embarrassing and humiliating yourself in public and saving
me the time.
>Or are you just trying to say Nixon made the promises and Kissinger
>just when along with what his boss wanted. If so, that's a
>distinction without a difference.
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
Cliffy The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
Case closed.
Just for YOU, Cliffy The Commie, I'll allow YOU to CITE ANYTHING
written by Kissinger HIMSELF where he "promised reparations to
Vietnam."
And MAKE CERTAIN what you CITE includes the word "reparations" and
MAKE SURE what you CITE was written by Kissinger HIMSELF.
I'll be waiting...
See above.
> I'll be waiting...
As I waited for you to show up for your appointment to kill me? After
seeing the daily bus roll through without your bloated bulk exiting I
gave up "waiting".
Wanker.
--
Regards, Curly
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> See above.
See what, your lunatic ravings?
And Deucha-bag AKA Bob Brock will threaten to have a homoerotic
fantasy about you...
> --
> Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Whose God Do You Kill For?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He found you.
> Yes, he lies. Yes, he's dumb as a fencepost. But on top of all that
> he's got a serious anal obsession and is bat-shit crazy.
> Don't mistake Milby for a "typical winger" and definitely not as a
> conservative.
>
> He's just a wanker.
>
> --
> Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Whose God Do You Kill For?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> He worded it as "reconstruction" funding.
>
>YOU WORDED IT AS "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Indeed I did and so it was to be.
What did you think reparations might consist of?
Oops ... you did not think.
--
Cliff
>hahahahahahahahaha!!!
You say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZq62nqE78 ?
--
Cliff
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:34:43 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:08:22 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:06:41 -0500, Cliff
>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:09:55 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:46:08 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>>>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:28:02 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> Learn to like your LIES.
>>>>>>> They will NEVER go away...
>>>>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>>>>><CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>>>>>>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
>>>>>> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
>>>>>> LIAR AND A COWARD.
>>>>>That would a "NO!"
>>>>>The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>>>>>COMPLETE!
>>>>>Game over, Coward.
>>>> You even lie about what was posted (forger).
>>>Prove it.
>> Everybody sees it.
>
>"Everybody sees it" isn't proof ESPECIALLY since Curly THE COWARD
>Suckmudgeon REPEATED HIS REFUSAL (below).
You lied, as usual.
That's cowardly as you can never face the truth AFAIK.
--
Cliff
>FAILED to FIND ANY DATES
Try a dating site for wingers.
Meetamoron.com & etc.
--
Cliff
>On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:03:24 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>
>> hahahahahahahahaha!!!
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU... Wanna send me your address
>>>> LIKE YOU PROMISED?
>>> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
>>> LIAR AND A COWARD.
>>
>> That would a "NO!"
>>
>> The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>> COMPLETE!
>>
>> Game over, Coward.
>>
>> ==== UPDATE! ========
>>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:07:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> I asked you a hundred times if you wanted an email address for me...
>>>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>>>> ADDRESS?
>>>> _ Yes.
>>>> _ No.
>>>> Pick one.
>>>Pick your nose.
>>
>> That would a "NO!"
>>
>> The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>> COMPLETE!
>>
>> Game over, Coward.
>>
>>>>>> Why won't you provide your ADDRESS as PROMISED?
>>>>>No, that's not the question.
>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>> History is NOW:
>>>> WILL YOU PROVIDE YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN AN EMAIL IF I PROVIDE AN EMAIL
>>>> ADDRESS?
>>>> __ Yes.
>>>> __ No.
>>>> Pick one.
>>>Pick your nose. You're not setting the agenda.
>>
>> Yes, I am. Yes, I did.
>>
>> That would a "NO!"
>>
>> The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>> COMPLETE!
>>
>> Game over, Coward.
>>
>>>>>-You ran and hid for weeks before and after.
>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>Google provides.
>>>> Yes it does! Here is a DIRECT LINK to my Google Posting:
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?
>>>hl=en&enc_user=rnFUuBMAAAAx98ToQl1Ygt96eyqtZ70FWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww
>>>> Or: http://tinyurl.com/5u4ytt
>>>> Prove that I "ran and hid for weeks before and after." FAILURE TO
>>>> PROVE YOUR CLAIM will be YOUR CONFESSION as a LIAR.
>>>That's your proof? Here's real proof:
>>
>> I gave you the Link. You FAILED to FIND ANY DATES that I wasn't
>> posting...
>>
>> That STANDS as YOUR CONFESSION that YOU are a LIAR.
>>
>> That would a "NO!"
>>
>> The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
>> COMPLETE!
>>
>> Game over, Coward.
>
>Wow, Cliff, now you're the object of his fantasies too! Isn't that
>special?
I do attract nuts.
It's sporting.
--
Cliff
--------------------------------------------
"Winston Smith, American Patriot" <Franz...@Oceania.WhiteHouse.GOV>
wrote in message news:Xns9A7863167...@207.115.33.102...
> "Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.com> wrote in alt.politics.bush:
>>> and his handling of the Kosovo War with his
>>> friend Wesley Clark was MASTERFUL.
>> Murdering Christians to protect Muslims was "MASTERFUL?"
> If only we could all hope to kill murdering Christians in order to protect
> innocent Muslims, what a wonderful world this would be.
What a keeper!
--------------------------------------------
Try to pay attention.
Cliffy The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
If you want me to embarrass and humiliate you on any other topic feel
free to start a new Thread.
>Have you even known a politician - of either flavor - to say anything
>that wasn't focus group tested for public support, sound byte worthy,
>ever so flattering, and not really specific at all?
Your attempt to change the Subject has FAILED.
>Have you ever known a politician - of either flavor - to actually do
>exactly what they talked about in speeches?
Your attempt to change the Subject has FAILED.
Try to pay attention.
Cliffy The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
Cliffy The Commie LIED.
If you want me to embarrass and humiliate you on any other topic feel
free to start a new Thread.
I'll take that as your CONFESSION that you LIED while trying YET
FAILING to defend Cliffy The Commie.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?
Answer carefully or be bored to death by Bob Milby.
Yeah, my friends tell me that I'm an "asshole magnet" too. I attribute
it to being unwilling to suffer fools.
Learn to like your lie.
It will never go away.
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:44:31 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>wrote:
>> I have an email address JUST FOR YOU...
>> Wanna send me your address LIKE YOU PROMISED?
> NO, I will NOT send you my address in email AS PROMISED BECAUSE I AM A
> LIAR AND A COWARD.
That would a "NO!"
The TOTAL INTERNET DESTRUCTION of Curly "Coward" Suckmudgeon is
COMPLETE!
Game over, Coward.
==== UPDATE! ========
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:07:41 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
That would a "NO!"
Game over, Coward.
That would a "NO!"
Game over, Coward.
That would a "NO!"
Game over, Coward.
==== UPDATE! ========
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:56:50 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:24:52 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>wrote:
>>>You're a real work of art.
>> You're a REAL Coward.
>> Run, Coward. Run!
>What should I run from, you?
Only YOU can answer that question.
You wanted an email address. I offered an email address TWICE.
YOU RAN AWAY BOTH TIMES.
>Sorry, ain't gonna happen.
It already DID happen. TWICE.
>No one is frightened of you.
Then, apparently, you have some other reason for RUNNING LIKE A
COWARD... It would be pointless to speculate on your COWARDICE.
When your country needed you YOU RAN AWAY.
Years later, ashamed of your cowardice, you tried to pretend you were
a Veteran. I exposed your lie.
When you demanded an email address I offered it. YOU RAN AWAY.
When you demanded an email address AGAIN I offered it AGAIN. YOU RAN
AWAY AGAIN.
Game over, Coward.
No amount of your lunatic ravings will disguise the facts nor history.
You ran and hid when challenged to carry out your death threat. I'm
still here humiliating you.
Wanker.
--
Regards, Curly
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See above.
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:27:02 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:00:43 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Game over, Coward.
>
> See above.
Running out of lies?
>They are OPINION.
The actual agreement, eh?
And thus you can lie about it, eh?
--
Cliff
>On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:27:50 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:19:44 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:26:06 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>>>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>>>>>>Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
>>>>>>>>accord was signed.
>>>>>>>Oops! Caught LYING, again.
>>>>>>>"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
>>>>>>>ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
>>>>>>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
>>>>>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>>>>>YOU LIED.
>>>>>>Promised and kept the promise are not the same thing.
>>>>>True but not exactly relevant.
>>>>Yes it is. You said we never promised.
>>>Wrong.
>>>I said Cliff The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to
>>>Vietnam."
>>>I said Cliff The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to
>>>Vietnam" because Cliff The Commie DID CLAIM that "Kissinger promised
>>>reparations to Vietnam."
>>>Cliff The Commie IS A LIAR.
>> Unlike a moron I actually checked the document.
>
>hahahahahahahha!!
You did not know a thing about it but you lied anyway.
I remembered about it.
>>>Apparently YOU WISH TO JOIN HIM, right?
>>>>My cites say that's wrong.
>>>Nope.
>>>>We did promise but backed out when they didn't keep their side of the
>>>>deal. It WAS promised.
>>>No, it wasn't "promised." The then-President STATED an INTENTION.
>>>>It was NOT delivered.
>>>True, but not relevant to Cliff The Commie's CLAIM that "Kissinger
>>>promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>>Stop trying to play semantic games.
>>>Try to pay attention.
>>>>>>http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/lundy/v/political1.html
>>>>>The 'secret' letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)
>>>>Do you have a cite
>>>Of course I do:
>>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/nixonletter.html
>>>>or are we just to believe all the cites I gave are
>>>>wrong or lying?
>>>They are OPINION.
>> Just like links to the actual document & the meanings of words, right?
>
>Prove it...
You lied, as usual & as expected.
>>>>My first cite says it was in 1973.
>>>Perhaps because they HOPED no one would check and find out it was
>>>AFTER the Treaty was signed?
>> Nixon just reconfirmed.
>> Clearly he knew what Kissinger had promised.
>
>Prove it.
You lied, as usual & as expected.
>>>>Perhaps after February but in the same year and part of the same treaty.
>>>No, it was NOT part of the Treaty.
>>>It was a SEPARATE STANDALONE Letter.
>>>>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>>>My cites say the reparation letter was an addition to the treaty.
>>>And your cites are WRONG.
>> So it did not exist, eh?
>
>Try to pay attention, Liar.
You lied, as usual & as expected.
>>>>How
>>>>is an addition to a treaty specifying reparations, "consistent with"
>>>>your claim that there never WAS a promise?
>>>Your LIE is exposed. I didn't "claim" there wasn't a promise. Cliff
>>>The Commie CLAIMED there WAS a promise by Kissinger. I clearly PROVED
>>>that there was NOT a promise by Kissinger.
>>>>We are going to need some cites to support your claim.
>>>No, I'm not. And I'm not going to play "Flip The Claim" WITH A LIAR.
>>>>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>>>Yikes. Your quote is from 1992. And that is more relevant then
>>>>something from 1973 - the time of the treaty ????
>>>Yes, it is entirely relevant, accurate, and has NEVER BEEN REFUTED.
>> Like by looking at & reading the actual agreement?
>
>Prove it.
You lied, as usual & as expected.
--
Cliff
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:29:02 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:07:45 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:55:42 -0500, Cliff
>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:08:57 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:26:06 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>>>>>>Henry Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam when the Vietnam peace
>>>>>>>>accord was signed.
>>>>>>>Oops! Caught LYING, again.
>>>>>>>"I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not paying
>>>>>>>ransom, we were not paying reparations..." - Kissinger 09/22/92.
>>>>>>>http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/ssc71.html
>>>>>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>>>>>YOU LIED.
>>>>>>Promised and kept the promise are not the same thing.
>>>>>True but not exactly relevant.
>>>>>the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>>>>Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>>>paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>>> The Paris Peace Accords?
>>>> http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/ppa1973.html (January 17, 1973)
>>>> "the United States will contribute to healing the wounds of war and to postwar
>>>>reconstruction of the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam and throughout Indochina."
>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>> He worded it as "reconstruction" funding.
>
>YOU WORDED IT AS "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>
>YOU LIED.
You lied, as usual & as expected.
>>>> http://www.namebase.org/books90.html
>>>> "In Paris on February 1, 1973, the U.S. gave North Vietnam a letter from Nixon
>>>>promising $3.25 billion in ... North Vietnam wanted "reparations" but Nixon
>>>>called it "reconstruction.""
>>>YOU said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>YOU LIED.
>
>See above.
See "dictionary".
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Cliff
You lied, as usual & as expected.
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Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>> Give Vietnam back the POWs or replacements.
>> Use Chickenhawks & wingers.
>
>Which brings us to 0bamaWars, his total lack of military experience,
>and his starting and escalating wars left and right.
I noted no starting of any "wars".
Nor much, if anything, in the way of "escalating".
Not that things could not be done better, IMHO.
> He has learned
>nothing from Bush and is repeating Bush's folly. He is repeating
>every stupid policy Bush ever put in place - which is to say all of
>them. He is Bush's third term. Tell me about this "change".
>
>The lad probably wants his own neat bomber jacket.
>WS
>
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60C5NM20100113?type=politicsNews
>U.S. senator: consider air strikes on militants in Yemen
>
>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States should consider using air
>strikes, such as attacks by unmanned drones, to battle militants in
>Yemen that threaten American security, a senior U.S. senator said on
>Wednesday.
>
>Sen. Carl Levin said that air strikes, clandestine actions, and
>stepping up U.S. military aid to Yemen are among options that should
>be considered for dealing with the threat from al Qaeda militants in
>the Gulf Arab state.
>...
>Levin, a Democrat, is chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee,
>making him one of Congress' most influential voices on military
>matters.
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE60E1LS20100115
>Six al Qaeda militants killed in Yemen air strike
And Obama clearly said "No!" IIRC.
>
>
>=====
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
>maybe Pakistan
>maybe Yemen
>and maybe, just maybe, Iran
>
>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339426936&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
>US preparing for possible Iran conflict
Not much meaning there.
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Cliff
>>Yet earlier you wrote.
>>>|| The 'secret' letter from Nixon was written AFTER (February 1, 1973)
>>>|| the Treaty of Paris was signed which is completely consistent with
>>>|| Kissinger's "I certainly told them innumerable times that we were not
>>>|| paying ransom, we were not paying reparations..."
>>Message-ID: <9dlpk5t5bfnnmrpc7...@4ax.com>
>
>Are you CONFUSED by the fact that we RELEASED the copy of the letter
>in 1977 and the letter was written in 1973?
So you claim that the repatriations promised by Kissinger and later
confirmed by Nixon did not exist when Kissinger promised them
but only did after Nixon confirmed them a few days later.
How circular.
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Cliff
>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:54:17 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:46:17 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com> wrote:
>>>>Cough up with some evidence to prove your claims.
>>>Did that...
>>>And, NO, I'm going to play 'Flip That Claim' with a LIAR.
>>>Cliffy The Commie said: "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>>>Cliffy The Commie LIED.
>>>The BURDEN of PROOF is on YOU.
>>>If YOU think America "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
>>>the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where America "promised
>>>reparations to Vietnam."
>>>If YOU think Kissinger "promised reparations to Vietnam" then YOU have
>>>the BURDEN of CITING from the ACTUAL TREATY where Kissinger "promised
>>>reparations to Vietnam."
>>>Case closed.
>> Liar.
>> You are claiming a treaty as a requirement.
>
>Just for YOU, Cliffy The Commie, I'll allow YOU to CITE ANYTHING
>written by Kissinger HIMSELF where he "promised reparations to
>Vietnam."
>
>And MAKE CERTAIN what you CITE includes the word "reparations" and
>MAKE SURE what you CITE was written by Kissinger HIMSELF.
>
>I'll be waiting...
Keep moving the goalposts ... you already lost.
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Cliff
>Try to pay attention.
>
>Cliffy The Commie said "Kissinger promised reparations to Vietnam."
>
>Cliffy The Commie LIED.
>
>If you want me to embarrass and humiliate you on any other topic feel
>free to start a new Thread.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=reparations+Vietnam
"about 1,580,000 for reparations Vietnam."
HTH
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Cliff
Oops! You FAILED to CITE ANYTHING written by Kissinger HIMSELF where
he "promised reparations to Vietnam."
Hahahahha!
Learn to like your lie.
It will never go away!
The "actual agreement" that you FAILED to QUOTE from including the
word "reparations."
Hahahhahahahahaha!!!
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:13:57 -0500, Cliff
> <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@america.com>
>>wrote:
>>>They are OPINION.
>> The actual agreement, eh?
>
> The "actual agreement" that you FAILED to QUOTE from including the word
> "reparations."
>
> Hahahhahahahahaha!!!
That Mad Hynea Disease giving you trouble today?
>
> Hahahahha!
>
> Learn to like your lie.
>
> It will never go away.
>
>
>
>
>
PG is obviously an insecure, ignorant redneck, starved for attention.
He learned how to cut and paste in his remedial math class and now
spends all his spare time reposting articles with bigoted titles in a
desperate attempt to draw some attention to his pathetic self.
First impression might be to toy with him, but you�ll quickly find he is
way too predictable / way too easily lead.
It�s best to simply filter him from the start as he has no redeeming
qualities.
>Patriot Games wrote:
>
>>
>> Hahahahha!
>>
>> Learn to like your lie.
>>
>> It will never go away.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>PG is obviously an insecure, ignorant redneck, starved for attention.
>He learned how to cut and paste in his remedial math class and now
>spends all his spare time reposting articles with bigoted titles in a
>desperate attempt to draw some attention to his pathetic self.
>
>First impression might be to toy with him, but you�ll quickly find he is
>way too predictable / way too easily lead.
>
>It�s best to simply filter him from the start as he has no redeeming
>qualities.
With the single exception of his evident racism, he makes far far more
sense then the average racist Leftist. They are emotional buffoons who
feel rather than think. Logic and reason are foreign concepts they are
ill equipped to understand, let alone use. They are by
definition,..mentally ill. In most cases..incurably so.
Fortunately the Great Cull will occur in less than 2 yrs and the Extreme
Leftists will be murdered.
Gunner
Keep moving the goalposts... you already lost.
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Cliff
How circular.
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Cliff
Get a dictionary & learn to read.
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Cliff