3rd of NewYorkers favor Arab Internment Camps!!!LINK
xganon
with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from the grave?
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in a
public setting. If a second wave does happen, you're likely to see this
become
a reality. It will likely be for their safety as much as ours. If America
made a first
strike on any Middle Eastern country, what would THEY do to any American
living within their borders?
There are no right answers. All have a negative side effect. The scary
part is
these guys have spent years working their way into our society before making
their move. Many will likely be impossible to find through legal and
politically
correct means. I don't think anyone will quietly bury their head in the
sand
if it happens again. They will be hunted unless put into a camp by the
Govt.
RC
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ELLE
> with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from the grave?
sounds good to me. but lets not go back and pay them restitution 30 or
40 years later.
Dekin Blue
Deke
Dekin Blue
Maybe they can use those internment camps and specialty rail cars they were gonna use on militia folks. Whew! That
would be a relief.
Deke
Gunner wrote:
> xganon <nob...@xganon.com> wrote:
>
> >33% of New Yorkers favor rounding up all Domestic Arabs in Internment camps. We have had Politicians elected
> >with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from the grave?
> >http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-newyorkpo0924sep24.story?coll=ny%2Dap%2Dregional%2Dwire
> >
> Sounds more like that Socialist Democrat bastard FDR to me. Anyone
> remember Manzinar and a host of others?
>
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Objective
also failed to quote what the other 27% thought.
All this poll does is point out the one consistent fact for the US - a
solid third of the population is hard-core right wing and support any
and all fascist propositions.
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"suspect" of having ties to the terrorists or their support system, and
imprisioning them (concentration camp) for an undetermined time. No due
process, including U.S. Citizens. Sorry, I disagree.
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Woodswun
>33% of New Yorkers favor rounding up all Domestic Arabs in Internment camps. We
> have had Politicians elected
>with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from
> the grave?
>http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-newyorkpo0924sep24.sto
>ry?coll=ny%2Dap%2Dregional%2Dwire
Now ~that~ is really scary!
Woods
Lonnie Courtney Clay
I suspect that a third of New Yorkers would favor dancing naked in the
streets too to celebrate their survival, but I doubt that the mayor
will let them....
LCC
H. McDaniel
> This isn't "disinformation" any more than you quoting one figure. You
> also failed to quote what the other 27% thought.
>
> All this poll does is point out the one consistent fact for the US - a
> solid third of the population is hard-core right wing and support any
> and all fascist propositions.
I don't think this is true. The U.S. did not turn to nazism prior to WWII because it was soundly rejected here. Some
people lose their heads in crisis situations. Funny thing is that the white people who support this idea (or whatever
people you want to name) wouldn't support it if 20 "white christians" (or whie muslims for that matter) had flown those
planes into WTC. Funny how that works, ain't it?
-McDaniel
Gunner
<ri...@remove.this.tairedd.com> wrote:
>So, if I hear correctly, you are for the Government rounding up anyone they
>"suspect" of having ties to the terrorists or their support system, and
>imprisioning them (concentration camp) for an undetermined time. No due
>process, including U.S. Citizens. Sorry, I disagree.
Folks..you all might pay attention here. MOST of us here, can be wiggle
worded into being defined as Terrorists. Domestic or Foreign (for our
Canadian and British members, etc)
Any one who has said a harsh word about the Feral Government, a kind
word about those who resist, might own guns etc.. can be railroaded by
any limitation or definitions to fit the new public mindset. We
committed a huge and terrible injustice against the Japanese Americans
in WW2 that we are still having to deal with (poorly btw).. so lets not
add another group to our societal guilt. And keep in mind..YOUR ox may
be gored (no pun intended) if we start eroding the BoR and the
Constitution, even for 'sensible' reasons.
Gunner
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>> > 33% of New Yorkers favor rounding up all Domestic Arabs in Internment
>camps. We have had Politicians elected
>> > with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy
>rising from the grave?
>>
>> sounds good to me. but lets not go back and pay them restitution 30 or
>> 40 years later.
>>
>> >
>http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-newyorkpo0924sep24.
>story?coll=ny%2Dap%2Dregional%2Dwire
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>This isn't "disinformation" any more than you quoting one figure. You
>also failed to quote what the other 27% thought.
>
>All this poll does is point out the one consistent fact for the US - a
>solid third of the population is hard-core right wing and support any
>and all fascist propositions.
Oddly enough "objective".(snigger)..its been the Left Wing over the
past 40+ yrs that have proposed and supported nearly all fascist
propositions. Read your history, and look up Fascist. Fits the
Dems/Left to a T.
Gunner
>
>
>On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:03:41 -0500, Dekin Blue <NOR...@Deke.com>
>wrote:
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>>Jerk. Look at the poll a little deeper. 50% did not favor this. Talk about your disinformation.
>>
>>Deke
>>
>>xganon wrote:
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>>> 33% of New Yorkers favor rounding up all Domestic Arabs in Internment camps. We have had Politicians elected
>>> with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from the grave?
>>> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-newyorkpo0924sep24.story?coll=ny%2Dap%2Dregional%2Dwire
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Objective
depression and up to the beginning of WWII. But even before that, the
US was installing or propping up fascist dictatorships all around the
world. During the Spanish Civil War, US corporations supplied the
Fascists and Nazis with oil, on credit, to power their planes and
tanks used to crush the democratically elected government of Spain.
The US government refused to send ANY aid to the elected government of
Spain. But certainly since the war, every opinion poll on political
matters shows a consistent 30% right-wing - not just "conservative".
- OFR -
Republicans
from harm.
The survey of 610 New Yorkers is a joke, not an accurate reflection of
one
third of all New Yorkers.
My survey is as valid as theirs.
--
- Outlaw Frog Raper -
Schenectady Copwatch
(518) 356-4238
Phil
> with less populor support than that. Did I hear a Senator McCarthy rising from the grave?
> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-newyorkpo0924sep24.story?coll=ny%2Dap%2Dregional%2Dwire
Maybe you and everyone else can read this article again (or for the
first time). It says:
"One third of New Yorkers favor establishing internment camps for
"individuals who authorities identify as being sympathetic to
terrorist causes," according to a poll from the Siena College Research
Institute."
I read this as: "individuals who authorities identify as being
sympathetic to terrorist causes," and not as Domestic Arabs.
Phil
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Cat
"ALBANY, N.Y. -- One third of New Yorkers favor establishing
internment camps for "individuals who authorities identify as being
sympathetic to terrorist causes," according to a poll from the Siena
College Research Institute."
Do YOU know anyone sympathetic to the Terrorist case? The story
wasn't about rounding up all Arabs/Muslims and herding them away.
Falkon
Does it mean people who advocate terrorism?
Does it mean people who have the stomach to accept military actions
'collateral damage' for achieving political purposes?
Does it mean people who ask why is the USA hated so much around the world?
Does it mean people who question Washington's policy response to the act of
terrorism against the USA?
Does it mean people who doubt that the 'new war on terrorism' will be black
and white 'good vs evil' - more like evil vs evil with innocent people
paying the ultimate cost?
Does it mean people who disagree with the official doctrine of how we are
supposed to understand the brutality of terrorism?
Does it mean anyone who disagrees with authority?
Does it mean anything at all?
This is starting to look like a 'reds under the beds' scenario. Most of us
can still remember the doctrine of McCarthyism - anyone who challenged
authority was a communist, anyone in some third world country who advocated
self-determination and democracy was a communist, anyone who questioned the
US Government's foreign policies was a communist, anyone who advocated civil
rights was a communist.
Not equipping US citizens with even a basic knowlege of what their
government has been up to over the last 50 years, preventing knowledge of
history from a perspective other than dominant the Judeo-Christian
understanding, all allows citizens to be terrorised by what appears to be
purely random acts of brutality. And when people are afraid the much less
pleasant side of human nature starts to take control and those who wish to
exploit those fears gain great power.
Fear is evil and dangerous and particular groups who don't fit the norm
become the target of ignorant and brutal responses from a fearful people.
Are you afraid? Will you allow your fear to take control of your actions or
will you show some courage?
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Woodswun
Well, McCarthy managed to dig up a lot of Communist sympathizers with his
little witch hunt, so I'm sure there would be plenty fingered as terrorist
sympathizers, as well. Doesn't mean those identified are actual sympathizers
- depends on how it's handled.
Woods
Strabo
Falkon wrote:
>
> The problem is what does 'sympathetic to terrorist causes' actually mean?
> Does it mean people who advocate terrorism?
> Does it mean people who have the stomach to accept military actions
> 'collateral damage' for achieving political purposes?
> Does it mean people who ask why is the USA hated so much around the world?
> Does it mean people who question Washington's policy response to the act of
> terrorism against the USA?
> Does it mean people who doubt that the 'new war on terrorism' will be black
> and white 'good vs evil' - more like evil vs evil with innocent people
> paying the ultimate cost?
> Does it mean people who disagree with the official doctrine of how we are
> supposed to understand the brutality of terrorism?
> Does it mean anyone who disagrees with authority?
> Does it mean anything at all?
All of the above, and them some.
"Terrorist" was begun in 1993 by Clinton and Reno as a
politically correct catch-all term for anyone they wanted
to label as such. Bush will continue that tactic. It literally
will be used as a label to get the public reaction and the
arrests that they want.
Karl Kleinpaste
> "Terrorist" was begun in 1993 by Clinton and Reno as a politically
> correct catch-all term for anyone they wanted to label as such.
Oh, please. Exactly what words do _you_ recall being used for, say,
the Beirut Marine barracks truck-bombing in the early '80s, when
Reagan was President?
--
Hit man for hire.
Strabo
Mine was not a political statement.
You're right. The word was used then. But without the indiscriminate
branding that took place later.
From here out it will be used to elicit a negative response
for any foreign or domestic opposition to the government line.
Woodswun
If it's "from here out", then it would be a "Bush" thing rather than a
"Clinton" thing, wouldn't it?
Woods
Strabo
That's right. It's his turn to implement as many steps as
possible to expand government power at the expense of America.
The goal appears to be to create as many divisions in
society as possible with as many criminals and terrorists
as possible. As a Republican he simply uses a different list
of terrorists/criminals than did Clinton.
I repeat - if there is danger from terrorists, if another
9/11 act is forecast - then why are the borders open
and why are illegals here?
And this, from the latest "Anti-terrorism Act"...
"Hackers could be labelled as dangerous terrorists under new
legislation being proposed by the Bush administration, civil
liberties groups have warned.
The Anti-Terrorism Act adds computer hacking to the list of
federal terrorism offences, with penalties of up to life
imprisonment."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1568000/1568302.stm
Scott Cuyler
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> I repeat - if there is danger from terrorists, if another
> 9/11 act is forecast - then why are the borders open
> and why are illegals here?
>
Because taking care of those problems is too difficult.
We don't yet have enough fear to do all that work.
We will later on after more of us die.