Our Evac Test weekend
Whi71
actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a little
report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the future.
We each keep a pack loaded with what we thought was 5 days of gear including a
medium sized duffle bag of 'street clothes' but we wanted to make it as "real"
as possible also. So we decided to hurry home from work Friday, toss the
"evac" gear into the Explorer (the vehical we'd use) and make our way 20 miles
to the camp ground for the weekend - this campground also has areas of no
electricity so all the better.
First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was already
20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes were
loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me and her
in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem -
Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up using cash
from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being accepted.
Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having opted to
listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on local
station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we were in
the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our optimal
schedual.
Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many sites were
left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend jaunt in the
woods - ARRRGGGHHH! By this time we were ready to just toss in the towel and
go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we made camp by
pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground. Tent was no
problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our camping
clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she had
tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the flip flops
we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear.
Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the fuel tab
stove didnt work like we expected, had to buy some firewood for the 'romantic'
fire at night, the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we had to
refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru Brita filter
in the camping totebox..and saturday when the sun came out we strung up a spare
blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in our
opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave everything). The
food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than appealing - but
still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box.
What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color tarp
instead of the cheap blue plastic ones, pack the boots back into the bags once
we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM station
for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits for the
relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves.
Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not unlike 90% of
the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who have not
even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have knowledge
in.
Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted
Geoffrey L. Hardin,
Whi71 wrote:
> Hello Everyone. We took the advice of several people from here and abroad to
> actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a little
> report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the future.
>
. . .snip. . .
>
> First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was already
> 20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes were
> loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me and her
> in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem -
> Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up using cash
> from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being accepted.
Great! You were sticking to the plan. I don't know how much you keep in your
stash, but keep in mind that in a real emergency, gas prices may increase up to
ten-fold. . .or worse.
>
> Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having opted to
> listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on local
> station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we were in
> the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our optimal
> schedual.
Perfect. Traffic may well be worse if it a situation where everyone leaves at the
same time.
>
>
> Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many sites were
> left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend jaunt in the
> woods - ARRRGGGHHH!
This may be how it really is with tons of people evacuating the cities. There may
simply be no place to conveniently stay.
> By this time we were ready to just toss in the towel and
> go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we made camp by
> pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground.
I would probably have kept everything loaded. Never unload your packs at night or
your trucks at all. If you have to leave in a hurry (as in a real scenario), you
may be forced to leave something valuable behind.
But that's just me.
> Tent was no
> problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our camping
> clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she had
> tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the flip flops
> we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear.
Boots are among the most important items you have. If you were forced to leave the
city after, say, an earthquake, your regular shoes (or worse, her heels) may not
have been tough enough to withstand climbing over rubble.
> Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the fuel tab
> stove didnt work like we expected,
This is the one bad thing about those fuel-tab stoves. No matter what fuel you use
(hexamine or trioxane), you have to check them each year to make sure they're not
"shrinking." As soon as you detect that they are, you should discard them and
replace them immediately.
> had to buy some firewood for the 'romantic' fire at night,
> the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we had to
> refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru Brita filter
> in the camping totebox..
Did you run the stored water through the Brita?
> and saturday when the sun came out we strung up a spare
> blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in our
> opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave everything). The
> food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than appealing - but
> still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box.
Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
> What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color tarp
> instead of the cheap blue plastic ones,
You may want to go with one of the heavy-duty reflective tarps that are silver on
one side and Olive on the other. This way you can reflect the light if you want to
and flip it around if you don't want a big shiney finger pointing to you.
> pack the boots back into the bags once
> we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM station
> for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits for the
> relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves.
While not exactly a tea-totaller, I'd probably leave the alcohol out, except for
(ahem) medicinal purposes.
>
> Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not unlike 90% of
> the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who have not
> even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have knowledge
> in.
>
> Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted
Actually, I'd say you had a rather good experience! The worst thing that happened,
which could have resulted in endangering your well-being, was the fact that you
both left your boots behind.
Next time, try living just out of your packs (no totes), see how that goes. If you
can live just out of your packs, then you can pretty do it anyway you need. Your
pack will fit in your vehicle if you can drive out and you can always use your
stuff at home.
It's not much fun, though.
Geoffrey L. Hardin,
geo...@abcs.com
REstey9690
Karl Von Clauswitz
Noah Simoneaux
<geo...@abcs.com> wrote:
(snip)
>This may be how it really is with tons of people evacuating the cities. There may
>simply be no place to conveniently stay.
There may be none of the usual places to stay, but it might be a good
time for considering different solutions for novel circumstances.
>> By this time we were ready to just toss in the towel and
>> go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we made camp by
>> pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground.
>
>I would probably have kept everything loaded. Never unload your packs at night or
>your trucks at all. If you have to leave in a hurry (as in a real scenario), you
>may be forced to leave something valuable behind.
In a real emergency situation you might want to keep somebody in the
vehicle, too, or at least somebody awake all night watching the
vehicle and the tent. If everybody's trying to evacuate the city areas
some might be willing to settle for whatever transportation they can
"find".
(snip)
>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
Ewwww! That's almost enough to give me nightmares, MRE's with tabasco
sauce.
(snip)
Noah Simoneaux
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"Geoffrey L. Hardin," wrote:
> While not exactly a tea-totaller, I'd probably leave the alcohol out, except for
> (ahem) medicinal purposes.
Well if gas prices go up 10 fold, I would be willing to bet some alcoholics, be it
college students or someone of that nature would be more than willing to pay 10 fold
for alcohol. Especially if they are under the impression the only way to get some is
to party.
Jeff Schwartz
"Whi71" <wh...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots
I owe you one...
Moving my 2nd best boots out to the car-box tonight :)
JonquilJan
that was the biggest thing of all - you LEARNED. Best progress and
experience in the world.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
Noah Simoneaux
Are you sure you want to keep leather(I'm assuming they are leather)
boots in a car? I remember seeing a pair of leather combat boots that
were placed near a very warm heater overnight to dry out. The next
morning when the guy tried to put them on the leather was about like
crispy bacon. They fell apart when he tried to put his feet into them.
Guess they were a little too close to that heater.
Bob G
wrote:
>no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
>
>>
>>>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
>>
>>Ewwww! That's almost enough to give me nightmares, MRE's with tabasco
>>sauce.
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>Noah Simoneaux
>
>Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
>
>Gunner
>
Yep, even makes 'beans and mother fu*kers' edible.
Bob
I love my country ! It's the politicians I don't
like or trust.
Jim String
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:03:35 -0700, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net>
>wrote:
>
>>no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>sauce.
>>>
>>>(snip)
>>>
>>>Noah Simoneaux
>>
>>Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
>>
>>Gunner
>>
>
>Yep, even makes 'beans and mother fu*kers' edible.
Bob, are you talking about the infamous lima beans and alleged ham?
Best,
Jim
(who stocks plenty of tabasco)
Noah Simoneaux
>Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
So what do you put in tobasco pepper to make IT edible? ;)
side...@mindspring.com
years. I only wear them a couple of times a year and they have never been
treated with any leather oils (except for what the manufacturer might have
used) and they are still in great shape. I wouldn't recommend doing
that, but I do and haven't had any problems with them. Would boots react
differently? Don't know. Does leather treatment make a difference one
way or the other? Again, don't know.
Noah Simoneaux wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:11:39 -0400, "Jeff Schwartz"
> <schw...@bitstorm.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Whi71" <wh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20000723190905...@ng-fu1.aol.com...
> >
> >> clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots
> >
> >I owe you one...
> >
> >Moving my 2nd best boots out to the car-box tonight :)
>
> Are you sure you want to keep leather(I'm assuming they are leather)
> boots in a car? I remember seeing a pair of leather combat boots that
> were placed near a very warm heater overnight to dry out. The next
> morning when the guy tried to put them on the leather was about like
> crispy bacon. They fell apart when he tried to put his feet into them.
> Guess they were a little too close to that heater.
>
> Noah Simoneaux
>
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"Noah Simoneaux" <no...@yournet.com> wrote in message
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| On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:03:35 -0700, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net>
| wrote:
<snip>
Bob G
wrote:
>In article <397e7aca...@news.pclink.com>, Bob G wrote:
>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:03:35 -0700, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
>>>>
>>>>Ewwww! That's almost enough to give me nightmares, MRE's with tabasco
>>>>sauce.
>>>>
>>>>(snip)
>>>>
>>>>Noah Simoneaux
>>>
>>>Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
>>>
>>>Gunner
>>>
>>
>>Yep, even makes 'beans and mother fu*kers' edible.
>
>Bob, are you talking about the infamous lima beans and alleged ham?
>
>Best,
>Jim
>(who stocks plenty of tabasco)
Yep, yah got it. :-)
Chuckle, my tabasco woes (getting short of it) went away when wife
found it in gallon jugs.
BrownThumb
> You failed the test at the start. Your "bug out" vehicle
> had only 1/4 a tankful? You're supposed to keep it at least
> 1/2 full. Or have stored, stabilized gasoline to use in a
---------------------------^^^^^^^
Huh? Wuzzat?
BrownThumb
> Are you sure you want to keep leather(I'm assuming they are leather)
> boots in a car?
I have similar questions about EVERYTHING that goes in a bug-out bag.
Meds,
food. 'Tho my trunk seems cooler than the passenger compartment.
What about canvas or synthetic boots?
Noah Simoneaux
>I have had a pair of leather deck shoes in the trunk of my car for 5
>years. I only wear them a couple of times a year and they have never been
>treated with any leather oils (except for what the manufacturer might have
>used) and they are still in great shape. I wouldn't recommend doing
>that, but I do and haven't had any problems with them. Would boots react
>differently? Don't know. Does leather treatment make a difference one
>way or the other? Again, don't know.
I'd probably want to check them frequently if I stored them in my car.
Some surprises aren't nice ones.
Russ Williams
Tobasco can dissolve maggots... can't it??
Russ Williams
Gunner wrote:
> no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
>
> >
> >>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
> >
> >Ewwww! That's almost enough to give me nightmares, MRE's with tabasco
> >sauce.
> >
> >(snip)
> >
> >Noah Simoneaux
>
> Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
>
> Gunner
>
> ----------
> "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
> maturity."
> Sigmund Freud
Russ Williams
I keep a spare pair of Vasque boots in my Burb all the time. Of course I
also treat the leather every 4-6 weeks... and I don't keep them near the
heater.
Russ Williams
Noah Simoneaux wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:11:39 -0400, "Jeff Schwartz"
> <schw...@bitstorm.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Whi71" <wh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20000723190905...@ng-fu1.aol.com...
> >
> >> clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots
> >
> >I owe you one...
> >
> >Moving my 2nd best boots out to the car-box tonight :)
>
> Are you sure you want to keep leather(I'm assuming they are leather)
> boots in a car? I remember seeing a pair of leather combat boots that
> were placed near a very warm heater overnight to dry out. The next
> morning when the guy tried to put them on the leather was about like
> crispy bacon. They fell apart when he tried to put his feet into them.
> Guess they were a little too close to that heater.
>
Gunner
>Gunner
> Tobasco can dissolve maggots... can't it??
>Russ Williams
Dont know... never let em marinate for very long.
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comments from others, caused the following words to appear on our
monitors:
>Gunner
> Tobasco can dissolve maggots... can't it??
>Russ Williams
>
>Gunner wrote:
>
>> no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
>> >
>> >Ewwww! That's almost enough to give me nightmares, MRE's with tabasco
>> >sauce.
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >Noah Simoneaux
>>
>> Tobasco can even make maggots edible. BTDT
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>> ----------
>> "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
>> maturity."
>> Sigmund Freud
A question for both you and Gunner, Russ: Suppose you were in a
situation where Noah was the only available food. Would Tabasco
render him edible? I love Tabasco, but I don't know if we can expect
miracles from it. :-)
—larryn
Noah Simoneaux
(piggybacking)
>>Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not unlike 90% of
>>the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who have not
>>even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have knowledge
>>in.
>>
>>Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted
I was wondering about the nighttime schedule. Did everyone climb into
the tent and sleep all night or was someone awake around the clock?
Guard duty is considered one of the basics, but amazing how tough it
can be to maintain the discipline to stick to it.
Russ Williams
lar...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:43:16 -0600, Russ Williams <rv...@email.byu.edu>
> , sharing an opinion worldwide on misc.survivalism, and inviting
> comments from others, caused the following words to appear on our
> monitors:
>
> >Gunner
> > Tobasco can dissolve maggots... can't it??
> >Russ Williams
> >
> >Gunner wrote:
> >
> >> no...@yournet.com (Noah Simoneaux) wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
> >> >
Whi71
>the tent and sleep all night or was someone awake around the clock?
>Guard duty is considered one of the basics, but amazing how tough it
>can be to maintain the discipline to stick to it.
>
Noah, You know what?? We never even thought about guard duty till I saw your
post - DUGH! You're correct, its one of the simplest things to do during a
Evac and we never thought of doing it... ok.. another thing we missed....
Ok.. off the subject kinda... Whats everyones opinion on camo?? I have a set of
woodland camo shirt/trousers but the rest of gear is earth tones.. mostly olive
drab in color. To 'us' it seems like it doesnt scream survivalist or milita
but does a decent job of camoflauging us in the bushes... any thoughts??
Noah Simoneaux
(snip)
>Noah, You know what?? We never even thought about guard duty till I saw your
>post - DUGH! You're correct, its one of the simplest things to do during a
>Evac and we never thought of doing it... ok.. another thing we missed....
Yep, it's hard to remember everything. Like I said, being in the Army
might have influenced me to keep security in mind more than some do. I
haven't had much call to practice guard duty since I got out(about 8
years ago), except for having to do it a bit because of predators(the
4-legged kind) getting after my chickens, ducks and guineas. Even with
all the guard duty I did in the Army it doesn't seem I maintained many
skills in that area.
(snip)
Ron Miller
: Ok.. off the subject kinda... Whats everyones opinion on camo?? I have a set of
: woodland camo shirt/trousers but the rest of gear is earth tones.. mostly olive
: drab in color. To 'us' it seems like it doesnt scream survivalist or milita
: but does a decent job of camoflauging us in the bushes... any thoughts??
Camo may make you get more 'into' the role but it marks you as abnormal.
Earth tones in your clothing and gear are better "camo" for remaining
undetected amongst the sheep :-)
You can get slate gray BDUs which should be unobtrusive to Authority
and fairly low-vis when needed.
Depends on whether you are trying to remain undetected as a survivalist
amongst the population, or whether you are trying to remain undetected
during your stay in the woods.
Ron
Strabo
I think survivalists should steer away from a "uniform" look
and camo is definitely associated now with the military.
Social detection is a good way to put it. Khaki is a good
alternative particularly for the desert and also works well
in Eastern brush. Before hunting clothes became an industry,
my favorites were khaki pants, paratroop boots and a deer
suede jacket.
Lazyike
"Geoffrey L. Hardin," wrote:
> Whi71 wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone. We took the advice of several people from here and abroad to
> > actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a little
> > report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the future.
>
> >
>
> . . .snip. . .
>
> >
> > First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was already
> > 20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes were
> > loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me and her
> > in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem -
> > Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up using cash
> > from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being accepted.
>
> Great! You were sticking to the plan. I don't know how much you keep in your
> stash, but keep in mind that in a real emergency, gas prices may increase up to
> ten-fold. . .or worse.
Then maybe the explorer is NOT the best thing.... If your looking at motorized
transport.
Maybe a motorcycle or two would be better? If you want something better that will in
good times give you excursive may I suggest a Bicycle or two... IF you do not think
you could live without the car add a bike rack anyway. Should you run out of gas you
may want to ride that 5 or 20 miles and not walk it.
>
>
> >
> > Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having opted to
> > listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on local
> > station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we were in
> > the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our optimal
> > schedual.
>
> Perfect. Traffic may well be worse if it a situation where everyone leaves at the
> same time.
>
Another reason for above two suggestions.
>
> >
> >
> > Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many sites were
> > left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend jaunt in the
> > woods - ARRRGGGHHH!
>
> This may be how it really is with tons of people evacuating the cities. There may
> simply be no place to conveniently stay.
Have you considered NOT evacing the city? After all if the entire pop of New York City
Left town where do you think they will be going?
>
>
> > By this time we were ready to just toss in the towel and
> > go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we made camp by
> > pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground.
>
> I would probably have kept everything loaded. Never unload your packs at night or
> your trucks at all. If you have to leave in a hurry (as in a real scenario), you
> may be forced to leave something valuable behind.
>
> But that's just me.
I agree no matter what the transport used. Only unload what you NEED.
>
>
> > Tent was no
> > problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our camping
> > clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she had
> > tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the flip flops
> > we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear.
>
> Boots are among the most important items you have. If you were forced to leave the
> city after, say, an earthquake, your regular shoes (or worse, her heels) may not
> have been tough enough to withstand climbing over rubble.
>
Yeppers...
>
> > Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the fuel tab
> > stove didnt work like we expected,
>
> This is the one bad thing about those fuel-tab stoves. No matter what fuel you use
> (hexamine or trioxane), you have to check them each year to make sure they're not
> "shrinking." As soon as you detect that they are, you should discard them and
> replace them immediately.
Nothing beats wood.... Skip the gas/liquid stuff... after all you need water and food
NOT
a bottle of propane or what not
>
>
> > had to buy some firewood for the 'romantic' fire at night,
>
> > the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we had to
> > refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru Brita filter
> > in the camping totebox..
>
> Did you run the stored water through the Brita?
>
> > and saturday when the sun came out we strung up a spare
> > blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in our
> > opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave everything). The
> > food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than appealing - but
> > still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box.
>
> Ahh. . .Tabasco sauce! Slayer of the Evil MRE taste dragon.
Starvation will make ANYTHING taste better....
>
>
> > What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color tarp
> > instead of the cheap blue plastic ones,
>
> You may want to go with one of the heavy-duty reflective tarps that are silver on
> one side and Olive on the other. This way you can reflect the light if you want to
> and flip it around if you don't want a big shiney finger pointing to you.
>
> > pack the boots back into the bags once
> > we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM station
> > for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits for the
> > relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves.
>
> While not exactly a tea-totaller, I'd probably leave the alcohol out, except for
> (ahem) medicinal purposes.
Yeppers... Speaking of that I wonder if this guy had a first aid kit and has taken
any Red Cross courses?
Ike
Whi71
Maybe a motorcycle or two would be better? If you want something better that
>will in good times give you excursive may I suggest a Bicycle or two... IF you
do not
Yes, we do have a bike rack on the Explorer and actually will put the bikes on
it "IF" TSHTF.... our plan to evac will only be of last recourse - not just run
to the hills if things hickup. We do have a place to go tho its about 6hrs
away...
>Yeppers... Speaking of that I wonder if this guy had a first aid kit and has
taken
>any Red Cross courses?
As a matter of fact I have taken First Responder courses in college, she had
gone through the Emt-basic course a couple years ago but has not persued a
medical related field...
Thanks everyone for the suggestions - A LOT OF things has changed since we
tried this out.. Cant stress enough.. EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO THIS !!!!!