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Summer Wind

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Nov 9, 2007, 5:01:41 PM11/9/07
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I was surprised to learn at Coleman's website that only their battery
powered lanterns should be used indoors. This is from their FAQ:

"We do not recommend using fuel burning lanterns indoors or in enclosed
areas due to the danger of fire and the emission of carbon monoxide (CO) and
the effects of carbon monoxide exposure. Only battery-powered lanterns
should be used indoors."

Is there a brand of fuel burning lantern that's safe for indoor use?

Thanks,
SW


Tim May

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Nov 9, 2007, 5:14:57 PM11/9/07
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In article <9N4Zi.4371$yV6....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Summer
Wind <Summe...@summer.com> wrote:


This is their lawyers talking.

Kerosene lanterns were the norm for cabin and house lighting for many
decades. Still the norm in many parts of the world.

Propane lanterns are just like the gas lamps people had in their houses
prior to the arrival of electricity.

A propane lantern is perfectly fine in a reasonably-ventilated space.
Meaning, don't use it an airtight close and fall asleep with it on!

The danger of knocking over a lantern is obvious, as it is with
candles, etc.

Buy a Coleman or Century propane lantern. If Coleman has now stopped
selling propane lanterns, buy from who still sells them.


--Tim May

EskW...@spamblock.panix.com

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Nov 9, 2007, 5:41:21 PM11/9/07
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In misc.survivalism, Tim May <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote:

> Kerosene lanterns were the norm for cabin and house lighting for many
> decades. Still the norm in many parts of the world.

But today's houses are generally less drafty than those from the old days,
so one should be careful if they live in a well-caulked, well-insulated
house wrapped in tyvek.

> Propane lanterns are just like the gas lamps people had in their houses
> prior to the arrival of electricity.

> A propane lantern is perfectly fine in a reasonably-ventilated space.
> Meaning, don't use it an airtight close and fall asleep with it on!

Gasoline lanterns (IIRC) emit more CO than kerosene or propane, and it may
be wise to restrict those to outdoor use. But please don't take my word
for it.

--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com

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Nov 9, 2007, 8:01:50 PM11/9/07
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On Nov 9, 6:14 pm, Tim May <timc...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
> In article <9N4Zi.4371$yV6.4...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Summer

>
> Wind <SummerW...@summer.com> wrote:
> > I was surprised to learn at Coleman's website that only their battery
> > powered lanterns should be used indoors. This is from their FAQ:
>
> > "We do not recommend using fuel burning lanterns indoors or in enclosed
> > areas due to the danger of fire and the emission of carbon monoxide (CO) and
> > the effects of carbon monoxide exposure. Only battery-powered lanterns
> > should be used indoors."
>
> > Is there a brand of fuel burning lantern that's safe for indoor use?
>
> This is their lawyers talking.
>
> Kerosene lanterns were the norm for cabin and house lighting for many
> decades. Still the norm in many parts of the world.

In the history of illumination, electric lights are but a blink...

> Propane lanterns are just like the gas lamps people had in their houses
> prior to the arrival of electricity.
>
> A propane lantern is perfectly fine in a reasonably-ventilated space.
> Meaning, don't use it an airtight close and fall asleep with it on!
>
> The danger of knocking over a lantern is obvious, as it is with
> candles, etc.
>
> Buy a Coleman or Century propane lantern. If Coleman has now stopped
> selling propane lanterns, buy from who still sells them.

And plenty of mantles and a globe or two.

> --Tim May

The Amish catalogs still sell a "Humphrey Opal" propane lamp that is
plumbed directly into the house gas supply. How's that for safety?

Li RM

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Nov 9, 2007, 10:39:47 PM11/9/07
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Here is a device I got to use with the lantern and stove:

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5115-775T&categoryid=5600

This is a nice gadget.

Take your standard 20 (or 40) pound propane tank and mount the
distrubution tree to it.

The lantern mounts on the top.

Then you can use a hose like this:

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5475B580T&categoryid=70025

to run to your stove.

I've used these after hurricanes with no problems whatsoever with any
noxious gas buildup - but I run it in a living room or kitchen, not
confined in a small space.

Cheers.

Li RM

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Nov 9, 2007, 10:48:43 PM11/9/07
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:01:50 -0800, hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Yah. Good idea.

I've got one of these:

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=R5178A100&categoryid=1010

for my stoves.

I also have the cushion thing-a-ma-jigs that go around the globes. I
couldn't find a link for that, but it wraps around the globe and
velcro's tight. I got so tired of busting globes. These help some.

hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com

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Nov 10, 2007, 9:51:52 AM11/10/07
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On Nov 9, 11:48 pm, Li RM <li_rm35m4...@unicomp.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:01:50 -0800, hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com
> http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=R5178...

>
> for my stoves.
>
> I also have the cushion thing-a-ma-jigs that go around the globes. I
> couldn't find a link for that, but it wraps around the globe and
> velcro's tight. I got so tired of busting globes. These help some.
>
>
>
> >> --Tim May
>
> >The Amish catalogs still sell a "Humphrey Opal" propane lamp that is
> >plumbed directly into the house gas supply. How's that for safety?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good stuff, but bulky. I keep two totes. One has mainly food and
cooking utensils, the other contains a dishpan, soap, dishtowels,
paper towels, and nestled in that are my two one-mantle colemans,
spare mantles, a coleman one burner stove and two 1lb cylinders.
There is a box of diamond kitchen matches in a zip lock bag stashed in
every piece of my kit.

I need to split out that second latern and bundle it and a cylinder
with something else, maybe within the tent bag.

hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com

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Nov 10, 2007, 9:59:21 AM11/10/07
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On Nov 9, 11:39 pm, Li RM <li_rm35m4...@unicomp.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:14:57 -0800, Tim May
>
>
>
>
>
> <timc...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
> >In article <9N4Zi.4371$yV6.4...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Summer
> >Wind <SummerW...@summer.com> wrote:
>
> >> I was surprised to learn at Coleman's website that only their battery
> >> powered lanterns should be used indoors. This is from their FAQ:
>
> >> "We do not recommend using fuel burning lanterns indoors or in enclosed
> >> areas due to the danger of fire and the emission of carbon monoxide (CO) and
> >> the effects of carbon monoxide exposure. Only battery-powered lanterns
> >> should be used indoors."
>
> >> Is there a brand of fuel burning lantern that's safe for indoor use?
>
> >This is their lawyers talking.
>
> >Kerosene lanterns were the norm for cabin and house lighting for many
> >decades. Still the norm in many parts of the world.
>
> >Propane lanterns are just like the gas lamps people had in their houses
> >prior to the arrival of electricity.
>
> >A propane lantern is perfectly fine in a reasonably-ventilated space.
> >Meaning, don't use it an airtight close and fall asleep with it on!
>
> >The danger of knocking over a lantern is obvious, as it is with
> >candles, etc.
>
> >Buy a Coleman or Century propane lantern. If Coleman has now stopped
> >selling propane lanterns, buy from who still sells them.
>
> >--Tim May
>
> Here is a device I got to use with the lantern and stove:
>
> http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5115-...

>
> This is a nice gadget.
>
> Take your standard 20 (or 40) pound propane tank and mount the
> distrubution tree to it.
>
> The lantern mounts on the top.
>
> Then you can use a hose like this:
>
> http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5475B...

>
> to run to your stove.
>
> I've used these after hurricanes with no problems whatsoever with any
> noxious gas buildup - but I run it in a living room or kitchen, not
> confined in a small space.
>
> Cheers.-

That is my bug-out in-place strategy. I use the Century tree, and
chose it because there is a screw that stabilizes the tree to the 20lb
bottle handle. The Coleman relies only on the bottle valve to hold
everything upright. It was a hard choice because I usually prefer
Coleman. I've got a 20lb bottle on my grill and a full spare in the
garage, but I don't want to have to transport all that.

BTW, my coleman "dual fuel" stove has been made into a tri-fuel stove
with the addition of the Century converter. Scouts didn't allow
liquid fuel on the campouts, and I really like the conversion. And I
can go back to gasoline at any time. That stove and my dual fuel
lantern (in a bulky hard case) are handy.

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