Re: Blair lied and lied again
Curly Surmudgeon
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230824/Iraq-fourth-WMD-risk-
list-inquiry-hears.html>
>
> The full extent of how Tony Blair misled the public about Saddam
> Hussein's weapons of mass destruction before and after the Iraq War was
> laid bare yesterday.
>
> The Chilcot Inquiry heard that just ten days before the invasion of Iraq
> Mr Blair was told Saddam had no way of using weapons of mass
> destruction.
>
> And weapons experts revealed that the former Prime Minister took Britain
> to war based on intelligence that his own spies rated just 'four out of
> ten' for accuracy.
>
> On the eve of the conflict, intelligence chiefs told Mr Blair that the
> Iraqi dictator had no warheads capable of delivering chemical weapons,
> dramatically undermining the Prime Minister's case for war.
>
> Yet Mr Blair gave the go-ahead for the invasion despite strong evidence
> that Iraq was no threat to Britain.
>
> Then, after the war, officials had to tell Mr Blair not to 'declare
> success too rapidly' in the quest to find WMD in Iraq as he continued to
> make misleading statements claiming that 'massive evidence' had been
> found.
>
> The revelations reinforce the case that intelligence evidence that
> Saddam was no threat was ignored by Mr Blair to take Britain to war on a
> false prospectus.
>
> <...>
The English seem to have bigger balls than Americans. And a lower
tolerance for lying politicians...
Where did America lose it's direction and courage?
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Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:08:00 -0500, Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230824/Iraq-fourth-WMD-risk-
>>list-inquiry-hears.html>
>>>
>>> The full extent of how Tony Blair misled the public about Saddam
>>> Hussein's weapons of mass destruction before and after the Iraq War
>>> was laid bare yesterday.
>
> Their testimony includes some direct references to lies they got from
> America, things Blair knew were lies. In the English investigation they
> are setting up the evidence trail to try Bush for war crimes.
>
>>The English seem to have bigger balls than Americans. And a lower
>>tolerance for lying politicians...
>>
>>Where did America lose it's direction and courage?
>
> Not when we elected the pompous fool. Not when he lied to us. But when
> we found out that he had lied us into a war and we did not impeach him.
> That's when it was clear that we had none of the fuzzy dangly things.
> When the extent of his treachery and sadism became clear and we didn't
> put him on trial, that was the end of any accountability of Washington.
>
> It set a new low in political ethics. It's established policies and
> precedents that will haunt us for decades.
I believe that each of these issues individually, though they be many,
distract from the central issue: President George Walker Bush violated
the fundmental structure of our nation, the separation of powers which
breaks up control to three powers, the Executive, Legislative and
Judicial.
George Walker Bush appointed himself judge, jury and executioner to
pursue an indefensible war sold on lies.
Let's not get distracted by each individual crime, obvious through
deniable but the sum of the parts. The basis of civilization since Rome
has been a separation of powers to prevent these abuses. Bush/Cheney/
Rove/Wolfowitz/Ashcroft/Gonzales/Meyers/Yoo/Libby/Rice/Powell/Rumsfeld/
Pearl/etc. conspired to commit crimes and undermine our Constitution.
Their day of reckoning must come.
HH&C
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:08:00 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230824/Iraq-fourth-WMD-risk-
> >list-inquiry-hears.html>
>
> >> The full extent of how Tony Blair misled the public about Saddam
> >> Hussein's weapons of mass destruction before and after the Iraq War was
> >> laid bare yesterday.
>
> America, things Blair knew were lies. In the English investigation
> they are setting up the evidence trail to try Bush for war crimes.
>
> >tolerance for lying politicians...
>
> >Where did America lose it's direction and courage?
>
> when we found out that he had lied us into a war and we did not
> impeach him. That's when it was clear that we had none of the fuzzy
> dangly things. When the extent of his treachery and sadism became
> clear and we didn't put him on trial, that was the end of any
> accountability of Washington.
>
> It set a new low in political ethics. It's established policies and
> precedents that will haunt us for decades.
I've read a new book, Blank Spots On The Map, Trevor Paglin,
ISBN978-0-525-95101-8.
pgs 249-250
CIA director George Tenet envisioned his own agency acting as the
sharp tip of the war's spear. Immediately after the attacks, he
began
frantically assembling a top secret dossier: the CIA's proposal for
what this war on terror might entail. Working together with CIA
director of operations James Pavitt, Tenet sent cables to the CIA's
regional stations arount the world asking for "wish lists." What new
powers would his operatives like to have? Tenet encouraged his
agents
to imagine "novel, untested ways" that the CIA might conduct overseas
operations. The global covert action Tenet anticipated would
"include
paramilitary, logistical, and psychological warfare elements as well
as claccical espionage."
The weekend following the attacks the Bush administration's principal
cabinet members met at Camp David. George Tenet, the director of
central intelligence, handed out a packet entitled "Going to War" --
the result of the agency's fast brainstorming and wish-listing. It
called for a wide-ranging campaign of financial espionage,
paramilitary operations, and surveillance. But "Going to War"
contained much more.
Tenet's proposal was a vision of the future, a future in which the
CIA
would have "exceptional authorities," as he called them. Ne secret
wars would begin across the world. Old ones would expand. Strict
rules about congressional and executive oversight of covert
operations
would be a thing of the past. The agency would no longer have to get
individual covert actions approved by the president. Age-old
complaints about covert actions getting"lawyered to death" would now
be gone. The CIA would be able to snatch people from around the
world
at will, and would now be able to kill.
The CIA director's vision saw new relationships and deeper
collaborations with foreign intelligence services in Egypt, Jordan,
and Algeria, whose cooperation the CIA would encourage with generous
subsidies. There would be new covert relationships with regimes like
Lybia and Syria. Foreign intelligence services would serve as CIA
proxies and force multipliers. At the same time, cooperation with
states likeEgypt and Morocco would help keep American fingerprints
off
the nastiest incidents that were bound to occur.
On Monday, Sept 17, the president announced that he intended to
support every one of Tenets requests for expanded powers. Bush
scrawled his name on Tenets memorandum of notification.
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Tenet, a democrat, and a Clinton appointee.