Obama finally making the Supreme Court?
Gunner Asch
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over
Obama's qualifications for the presidency,the group "Americans for
Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college
transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript
school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry
Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as
an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental
College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group
in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama
(Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for
foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To
qualify, forthe scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's
detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first
born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US
citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a
firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about
Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article
titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that
the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit
to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several
groups,
Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on
Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve
as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This
lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as
president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens
demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as
president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the
results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study
estimates that Obama has spent
upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law
firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his
personal records. Mr. Kreep
indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final
report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr.
Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Lib Loo
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Looks real, it says it's from the AP. I thought it was fake so I Googled
it...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=OBAMA%27S+CITIZENSHIP+CASE+REACHES+THE+SUPREME+COURT&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Buerste
>
>
>
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> VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
>
Unfortunately, it just doesn't matter. Libtards are in power and will
edit-out whatever the truth is about this just like they edit-out the truth
about most everything. They know the Kool-Aid guzzlers will do, think and
say whatever they are told. It will never see the light of day if it's
true.
Doug Miller
>Is this true?
Probably not. Why don't you check it yourself?
Lib Loo
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
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> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote
>
>>> Is this true?
>
>>Looks real, it says it's from the AP.
>
> AP - Winston Smith of Usenet fame said he thought it was fake. Well
> know for his wise and witty dismemberment of leftards, Mr. Smith is
> well known to never have made a mistake in his life.
>
>>I thought it was fake so I Googled
>>it...
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=OBAMA%27S+CITIZENSHIP+CASE+REACHES+THE+SUPREME+COURT&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
>
> The first hit that comes up says it's bogus.
Yeah, I figured as much. I remember him making many mistakes and he isn't
all that witty sometimes =|:-)'
Ed Huntress
"Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
> news:b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com...
>> Is this true?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
>>
>
> Unfortunately, it just doesn't matter. Libtards are in power and will
> edit-out whatever the truth is about this just like they edit-out the
> truth about most everything.
Read Ned's link. You'll see that Obama lived on Karl Marx Boulevard! That's
the clincher!
> They know the Kool-Aid guzzlers will do, think and say whatever they are
> told. It will never see the light of day if it's true.
Tom, you'll never see the light of day working in downtown Cleveland. That
isn't daylight you see out your window. It's burning American Flags.
--
Ed Huntress
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>In article <b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net wrote:
>>Is this true?
>
>Probably not. Why don't you check it yourself?
I just did.
Thanks for your answer.
Gunner
rayk...@rnsmte.com
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Doug Miller
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:14:25 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net
> wrote:
>>>Is this true?
>>
>>Probably not. Why don't you check it yourself?
>
>I just did.
>
>Thanks for your answer.
>
even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
Ed Huntress
"Doug Miller" <spam...@milmac.com> wrote in message
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LOL! I tried convincing Gunner to check before he posts, for years. The
conclusion I've reached is that he doesn't care if it's true or not. He just
cares if he can get away with it.
--
Ed Huntress
dca...@krl.org
> LOL! I tried convincing Gunner to check before he posts, for years. The
> conclusion I've reached is that he doesn't care if it's true or not. He just
> cares if he can get away with it.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
He obviously does not get away with it, but he does get to see people
jumping up and down. I think the best strategy is to ignore the posts
which are obviously wrong. Or maybe have a policy that only one
person corrects him, and everyone else ignores him.
Dan
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>In article <pqm0j5trqptj8svfl...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net wrote:
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:14:25 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net
>> wrote:
>>>>Is this true?
>>>
>>>Probably not. Why don't you check it yourself?
>>
>>I just did.
>>
>>Thanks for your answer.
>>
>Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You don't
>even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
>ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>
>Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
Shrug...you could be lying, or I could be suffering a stroke moment.
So why not trot out a cite and Ill be happy to tell everyone if I
forgot, or if you are a liar.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
What Eddy and Co forget..is that I was fact checking when I posted the
article. If he didnt wish to participate..thats his problem, not mine.
Ed Huntress
> Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>What Eddy and Co forget..is that I was fact checking when I posted the
>>article. If he didnt wish to participate..thats his problem, not mine.
>>
>>Gunner
>
> links that says it was bogus. All I did was put the first couple
> sentences of your "article" in google. How tough was that?
LOL! We've seen almost a decade of Gunner's "fact checking." First he checks
with Newsmax. Then he checks with WorldNutDaily. If they agree, he's done
his fact-checking. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Doug Miller
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:31:41 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <pqm0j5trqptj8svfl...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net
> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:14:25 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com>,
> gun...@lightspeed.net
>>> wrote:
>>>>>Is this true?
>>>>
>>>>Probably not. Why don't you check it yourself?
>>>
>>>I just did.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your answer.
>>>
>>Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You don't
>>even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
>>ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>>
>>Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
>
>Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
Sure do. Right here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.
metalworking/browse_thread/thread/971c80288e2d3c64/cca8081fda0dafab?
hl=en&q=obama+donofrio+gunner+group%3Arec.crafts.metalworking&lnk=ol&
>
>Shrug...you could be lying, or I could be suffering a stroke moment.
Or you could just be an idiot. You didn't do even the most rudimentary
fact-checking before you posted it for the first time in May. Numerous people
told you in May that it was bogus. It's still bogus in December.
>
>So why not trot out a cite and Ill be happy to tell everyone if I
>forgot, or if you are a liar.
I'm waiting for your apology for suggesting (twice!) that I lied about this.
Doug Miller
>What Eddy and Co forget..is that I was fact checking when I posted the
>article. If he didnt wish to participate..thats his problem, not mine.
Oh, bullshit. Fact-checking means doing at least a little bit of research on
your own, not just throwing a bunch of crap on the wall to see what sticks. If
you had spent even _five minutes_ looking into this, you would have found
abundant evidence that it's nonsense. For that matter, if you had paid
any attention at all to what you were told after you posted this nonsense for
the first time in May, you would have already known that it was nonsense,
without the need for any further checking.
Hawke
>> The first hit that comes up says it's bogus.
>
> Yeah, I figured as much. I remember him making many mistakes and he
> isn't all that witty sometimes =|:-)'
Ha, Ha, the wingers fall for another stupid hoax. Talk about reeling in
the suckers. Every time someone comes up with another of these
ridiculous accusations about Obama there is a stampede of right wingers
falling all over themselves taking it in as gospel. All you have to do
is drop a line of cheese in the water that says Obama isn't the real
president and a thousand right wing fools snap it up in the first second
and pass it on to their friends. Now if I could create some kind of real
fishing bait that worked on fish as well as these phony accusations
against Obama work on right wingers I'd be an overnight millionaire.
Hawke
Hawke
Well, at least he didn't go to the mainstream media for his facts. He
went to the reliable sources. I'm sure that was what he was thinking
when he went to those right wing propaganda sites.
Hawke
ATP*
Don't hold your breath.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>In article <1oe2j59k6jll6506b...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net wrote:
So your opinion then means shit? Thats not surprising.
And Im still waiting for your citations that I posted this in May. You
do understand that in May...I was recovering from my heart surgery..and
in May I had a stroke, which wiped out a significant portion of my
cognizant ability for a short time.
So I ask again...are you a liar, or simply blithering about something I
have no recognition of posting? And I asked for the citations to prove
your case...which so far are still un-forthcoming.
So as it stands at the moment..you are looking far far more like a liar
than anyother point of view.
Im still waiting.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>>>>
>>>Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You don't
>>>even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
>>>ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>>>
>>>Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
>>
>>Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
>
>Sure do. Right here:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.
>metalworking/browse_thread/thread/971c80288e2d3c64/cca8081fda0dafab?
>hl=en&q=obama+donofrio+gunner+group%3Arec.crafts.metalworking&lnk=ol&
>>
File not found. So how about simply cutting and pasting the post Im
alleged to have made?
>>Shrug...you could be lying, or I could be suffering a stroke moment.
>
>Or you could just be an idiot. You didn't do even the most rudimentary
>fact-checking before you posted it for the first time in May. Numerous people
>told you in May that it was bogus. It's still bogus in December.
>>
See my previous post of a moment ago.
>>So why not trot out a cite and Ill be happy to tell everyone if I
>>forgot, or if you are a liar.
>
>I'm waiting for your apology for suggesting (twice!) that I lied about this.
Im still waiting for a cite from you. After Ive examined it..you will
either get an apology, or confirm everyones believe you are a liar.
Ill be waiting with great interest.
Gunner
Stuart Wheaton
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:53:11 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
>>>> Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You don't
>>>> even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
>>>> ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>>>>
>>>> Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
>>> Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
>> Sure do. Right here:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.
>> metalworking/browse_thread/thread/971c80288e2d3c64/cca8081fda0dafab?
>> hl=en&q=obama+donofrio+gunner+group%3Arec.crafts.metalworking&lnk=ol&
>
> File not found. So how about simply cutting and pasting the post Im
> alleged to have made?
You posted it May 10th at 3:01 PM, I assume your time, but maybe google
time.
Doug Miller
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:53:11 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You
> don't
>>>>even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several
> months
>>>>ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>>>>
>>>>Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
>>>
>>>Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
>>
>>Sure do. Right here:
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.
>>metalworking/browse_thread/thread/971c80288e2d3c64/cca8081fda0dafab?
>>hl=en&q=obama+donofrio+gunner+group%3Arec.crafts.metalworking&lnk=ol&
>>>
>
>File not found.
I just tried it again, and it works just fine. Here's a tinyurl to it, in case
you're having trouble with line wrap on the URL:
> So how about simply cutting and pasting the post Im
>alleged to have made?
Here's the first part of it, with headers:
Path:
g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.
dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.
earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
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Subject: Nope..its definately not over yet...Obama
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By: Marion Valentine
May 1, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama,
under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign
student from Indonesia
SMOKING GUN FINALLY FOUND? Barrack Illegalibility to be The President of
USA!!!! ( must read, pass on)
April 1, 2009
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama�s
qualifications for the presidency, the group �Americans for Freedom of
Information� has released copies of President Obama�s college
transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript
indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial
aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the
school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance
with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court
of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for
financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the
Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the
scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document
would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama�s detractors
have been seeking.
>
>
>>>Shrug...you could be lying, or I could be suffering a stroke moment.
>>
>>Or you could just be an idiot. You didn't do even the most rudimentary
>>fact-checking before you posted it for the first time in May. Numerous people
>>told you in May that it was bogus. It's still bogus in December.
>>>
>
>See my previous post of a moment ago.
>
>>>So why not trot out a cite and Ill be happy to tell everyone if I
>>>forgot, or if you are a liar.
>>
>>I'm waiting for your apology for suggesting (twice!) that I lied about this.
>
>Im still waiting for a cite from you.
No, you're not. I've posted two so far. Not my fault if you can't open a
perfectly valid URL.
>After Ive examined it..you will
>either get an apology, or confirm everyones believe you are a liar.
That's three times now.
I'm not going to hold my breath.
>
>Ill be waiting with great interest.
Doug Miller
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:55:45 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <1oe2j59k6jll6506b...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What Eddy and Co forget..is that I was fact checking when I posted the
>>>article. If he didnt wish to participate..thats his problem, not mine.
>>
>>Oh, bullshit. Fact-checking means doing at least a little bit of research on
>>your own, not just throwing a bunch of crap on the wall to see what sticks. If
>
>>you had spent even _five minutes_ looking into this, you would have found
>>abundant evidence that it's nonsense. For that matter, if you had paid
>>any attention at all to what you were told after you posted this nonsense for
>>the first time in May, you would have already known that it was nonsense,
>>without the need for any further checking.
>
>So your opinion then means shit? Thats not surprising.
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
>
>And Im still waiting for your citations that I posted this in May.
No, you're not. I already posted it, and you falsely claimed that the link was
bad. It's not.
> You
>do understand that in May...I was recovering from my heart surgery..and
>in May I had a stroke, which wiped out a significant portion of my
>cognizant ability for a short time.
>
>So I ask again...are you a liar, or simply blithering about something I
>have no recognition of posting? And I asked for the citations to prove
>your case...which so far are still un-forthcoming.
I've refrained -- so far -- from calling you a liar, but it's becoming
difficult. I posted the citation. You said "File not found" -- which is not
true. Maybe you had trouble following the URL. Maybe not. Regardless, the URL
I posted _is valid_. If you can't get it to bring up a page, then the problem
is on your end somewhere. Try the tinyurl I posted in my other response to
you.
>
>So as it stands at the moment..you are looking far far more like a liar
>than anyother point of view.
And you are looking more and more like a jerk.
>
>Im still waiting.
No, you're not. I posted the cite you asked for. But I'm still waiting for
your apology.
Triboniophorus
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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> he was thinking
> when he
You're giving him way more credit than is deserved.
--
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:53:11 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Next time, you might want to think about checking *before* you post. You don't
>>>>> even seem to be aware that you posted *exactly* the same thing several months
>>>>> ago, and were told *then* that it's bogus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just fyi... It's *still* bogus.
>>>> Got a cite that Ive posted the exact thing? Ill be sure to read it.
>>> Sure do. Right here:
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.
>>> metalworking/browse_thread/thread/971c80288e2d3c64/cca8081fda0dafab?
>>> hl=en&q=obama+donofrio+gunner+group%3Arec.crafts.metalworking&lnk=ol&
>>
>> File not found. So how about simply cutting and pasting the post Im
>> alleged to have made?
>
>You posted it May 10th at 3:01 PM, I assume your time, but maybe google
>time.
And it is where ?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>What Eddy and Co forget..is that I was fact checking when I posted the
>>article. If he didnt wish to participate..thats his problem, not mine.
>>
>>Gunner
>
>Baloney. I replied within a half hour of your post with three or four
>links that says it was bogus. All I did was put the first couple
>sentences of your "article" in google. How tough was that?
So you didnt like the way I asked the question. Pity.
Ill try really hard the next time to phrase the question in a fashion
that doesnt confuse you so badly.
Big question..since you are in the Answering frame of mind...snicker.
Which part of "Is this true" confused you and made you take a particular
mental track? Or whatever 3 or 4 words I posted in asking the
question....?
Given the huge numbers of Leftwingers who post as True some buffoonery
thats long been proven false...Im surprised you take me to task for
simply posting the article and asking for verification or refutation.
But then....shrug...you always did have a moderate Leftwing bend in your
pysche. However it is good to see you are taking some of the more
egregious Leftards to task..on a few subjects....so you apparently are
wobbling.
Edtard and the other Leftwingers..well..that was expected to have them
chime in like a cracked and rusty door bell. Anything that makes them
look bad while laying on the Left..true or false tends to make them
writhe in great agony and angst.
But you....pity....
Gunner
Ed Huntress
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in message
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That probably would be good, but the chances of making something like that
work are pretty slim, IMO.
Most of the political discussions here, with Gunner or without, have nothing
to do with truth or falsity. They're about loading up the insults and
invective in a culture war. Ignoring them probably is a good idea but they
do set the tone and even the culture of belief here, as elsewhere. It rubs
off. Notice, for example, what's happened to Tom over the last year or so.
When I make an effort to correct the b.s. with facts, it's not because I
think it will convince anyone. It's because that's what I do for a living
and, even in this environment, it's good to keep my hand in and keep up the
practice.
--
Ed Huntress
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>>
>>So your opinion then means shit? Thats not surprising.
>
>You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
>>
>>And Im still waiting for your citations that I posted this in May.
>
>No, you're not. I already posted it, and you falsely claimed that the link was
>bad. It's not.
>
>> You
>>do understand that in May...I was recovering from my heart surgery..and
>>in May I had a stroke, which wiped out a significant portion of my
>>cognizant ability for a short time.
>>
>>So I ask again...are you a liar, or simply blithering about something I
>>have no recognition of posting? And I asked for the citations to prove
>>your case...which so far are still un-forthcoming.
>
>I've refrained -- so far -- from calling you a liar, but it's becoming
>difficult. I posted the citation. You said "File not found" -- which is not
>true. Maybe you had trouble following the URL. Maybe not. Regardless, the URL
>I posted _is valid_. If you can't get it to bring up a page, then the problem
>is on your end somewhere. Try the tinyurl I posted in my other response to
>you.
What tinyurl?
Simply cut and past the page and all of its atributes. You do know how
to do that, right?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Well Ill be damned. Looks like I do owe you an apology. Sorry about
that.
I have absolutely no recollection of posting that, but indeed I did.
Thank you for Finally posting it in a format that I could actually go
look at it.
Again, I appologize. You are not as big a liar as I had thought.
Gunner
Lib Loo
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:ag63j5d3575gh1bt0...@4ax.com...
snip-
> SMOKING GUN FINALLY FOUND? Barrack Illegalibility to be The President
-snip
It looks like he was fact checking back then. Maybe he forgot or all of the
facts weren't in yet?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>Given the huge numbers of Leftwingers who post as True some buffoonery
>>thats long been proven false...Im surprised you take me to task for
>>simply posting the article and asking for verification or refutation.
>
>I try to correct BS when I see it.
So correct me if I have this wrong..but did I post at the very top of
the particle..."Is this true?" or something along those lines..then
followed up my question with the article?
Any continued buffoonery you and your "lads" keep making of this very
simple and sincere question...simply leaves you looking more and more
biased and bogus.
Why would you try to make a big thing out of a simple question?
Hummmm?
Gunner
Doug Miller
>What tinyurl?
The one I posted in my other response to you.
>
>Simply cut and past the page and all of its atributes. You do know how
>to do that, right?
Already did that. You do know how to read, don't you?
Still waiting for your apology.
Doug Miller
>
>Well Ill be damned. Looks like I do owe you an apology. Sorry about
>that.
>
Yes, you do. Thank you.
>I have absolutely no recollection of posting that, but indeed I did.
>
>Thank you for Finally posting it in a format that I could actually go
>look at it.
>
>Again, I appologize. You are not as big a liar as I had thought.
You asshole. I'm not a liar at all.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>In article <ie73j5pree7qruqp4...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net wrote:
Your not? Cites?
You lied right there btw.
<G>
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>>So correct me if I have this wrong..but did I post at the very top of
>>the particle..."Is this true?" or something along those lines..then
>>followed up my question with the article?
>
>Oh yes. You covered your ass very well.
Thank you.
Was there anything else you wished to bitch about?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>"Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
>>"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote
>>
>>snip-
>>
>>> SMOKING GUN FINALLY FOUND? Barrack Illegalibility to be The President
>>
>>-snip
>>
>>It looks like he was fact checking back then. Maybe he forgot or all of the
>>facts weren't in yet?
>
>Might wash if he hadn't posted the identical story before and been
>shot down.
>
As I stated and apologized for ..I have no recollection of having posted
it before. As indicated..it happened during the period I was healing
from a triple bypass and just about the time I had the stroke.
Got a problem with that? Tough. Deal with it.
Gunner
Doug Miller
You posted the nonsense about Obama in May (for, apparently, the first time).
You had the stroke in March.
You posted this on March 20:
"I had a stroke 6 weeks after my triple bypass. A week ago last
Thursday." [Message-ID: <gbm8s4907h2iajv1g...@4ax.com>]
and the next day, this:
"Ive already made a couple service calls since Wed morning"
[Message-ID: <d04bs49eh5sjs8jp3...@4ax.com>]
You had recovered enough from the stroke by mid-March that you were making
service calls, but in mid-December you *hadn't* recovered enough to remember
what you posted in May?
Yeah, riiiiiight.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>In article <gdu4j5h0pq6sthg36...@4ax.com>, gun...@lightspeed.net wrote:
Hey Dough? Bite me. Really. Pucker up and suck hard. You know you are
good at it.
Frankly old boy..I dont remember much before July of this year. I was
making service calls because I HAD to. Id walk into a shop, after
driving there, and do the job properly. But Id not remember anyones
names..people Id worked for for years. I did indeed have memory issues
from the stroke. I still do, though they are much much smaller these
days.
Dont like it? Suck really really hard and maybe Ill reward you by
launching a big juicy load down your throat. THAT is finally working
again. Only took 7 months for that to work again.
Deal with it Dough.
Blow me Dough.
Btw asshat..where is your strong and virulent posture towards Clitt and
Shurly? Hummm?
Or are you blowing them too?
Gunner
HH&C
> >> The first hit that comes up says it's bogus.
>
> > Yeah, I figured as much. I remember him making many mistakes and he
> > isn't all that witty sometimes =|:-)'
>
> Ha, Ha, the wingers fall for another stupid hoax. Talk about reeling in
> the suckers. Every time someone comes up with another of these
> ridiculous accusations about Obama there is a stampede of right wingers
> falling all over themselves taking it in as gospel. All you have to do
> is drop a line of cheese in the water that says Obama isn't the real
> president and a thousand right wing fools snap it up in the first second
> and pass it on to their friends. Now if I could create some kind of real
> fishing bait that worked on fish as well as these phony accusations
> against Obama work on right wingers I'd be an overnight millionaire.
>
> Hawke
Huh? Someone asks a question and the little raptor says he fell for a
stupid hoax.
Interesting outlook.
Het, have you noticed that a lot of people are asking questions about
global warming.
Not only that, but they are even asking questions about climate
change.
Global warming and climate change must be a stupid hoax. See how it
works?
Doug Miller
[nothing worth reading, as usual]
<plonk>
Observer
<gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Hell, you had momory "Issues" well before the stroke.
>Dont like it? Suck really really hard
Why would anyone wish to emulate you, Herr Gumby?
>and maybe Ill reward you by
>launching a big juicy load down your throat. THAT is finally working
>again. Only took 7 months for that to work again.
Only 7 months to get back to full faggotry? Wow!
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>Hey Dough? Bite me. Really. Pucker up and suck hard. You know you are
>>good at it.
>>
>>Frankly old boy..I dont remember much before July of this year. I was
>>making service calls because I HAD to. Id walk into a shop, after
>>driving there, and do the job properly. But Id not remember anyones
>>names..people Id worked for for years. I did indeed have memory issues
>>from the stroke. I still do, though they are much much smaller these
>>days.
>
>Let's say that's all true. Let's say you don't remember your earlier
>post.
>
>Why did you post something this time without checking it out? It's
>childishly simple to do. Took me a whole minute.
Indeed. So I posted it to the children like you to tell me if it was
real or not.
And now you are pissing and moaning about it.
>>
>>Dont like it? Suck really really hard and maybe Ill reward you by
>>launching a big juicy load down your throat. THAT is finally working
>>again. Only took 7 months for that to work again.
>>
>>Deal with it Dough.
>>
>>Blow me Dough.
>>
>>Btw asshat..where is your strong and virulent posture towards Clitt and
>>Shurly? Hummm?
>>
>>Or are you blowing them too?
>
>Gunner really is a lovely human being. I hope everyone agrees.
So one can say then that you are sucking Clitts and Shurleys dick as
well?
Not that its a big thing or anything. Some of my friends are
cocksuckers. Even some of the guys. But I generally only let the
ladies suck mine.
Ever have that happen? Any different from a guy doing it? Ive never
wanted to find out by practical experience, so Im asking you.
Or should I be looking that up on the internet too?
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner
Lib Loo
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:929b3acb-7a81-4ccd...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
It's easy to get lib apologists for Obama to react, it's like shooting fish
in a barrel.
Just mention Obama's missing birth certificate and they all come out of the
woodwork, swearing that they once saw the original before the dog ate it.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:56:45 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>
>>>Gunner really is a lovely human being. I hope everyone agrees.
>>
>>
>>So one can say then that you are sucking Clitts and Shurleys dick as
>>well?
>>
>>Not that its a big thing or anything. Some of my friends are
>>cocksuckers. Even some of the guys. But I generally only let the
>>ladies suck mine.
"Generally"???
>>Ever have that happen? Any different from a guy doing it? Ive never
>>wanted to find out by practical experience, so Im asking you.
>>
>>Or should I be looking that up on the internet too?
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh
>
> Thanks from proving you really are a lovely human being.
>
> Gunner in a corner turns to homoerotic fantasies for defense. You are
> as reliable as the sun rising in the east.
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vote Republican, Suffering Builds Character
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:56:45 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>
>>>Gunner really is a lovely human being. I hope everyone agrees.
>>
>>
>>So one can say then that you are sucking Clitts and Shurleys dick as
>>well?
>>
>>Not that its a big thing or anything. Some of my friends are
>>cocksuckers. Even some of the guys. But I generally only let the
>>ladies suck mine.
>>
>>Ever have that happen? Any different from a guy doing it? Ive never
>>wanted to find out by practical experience, so Im asking you.
>>
>>Or should I be looking that up on the internet too?
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh
>
>Thanks from proving you really are a lovely human being.
>
>Gunner in a corner turns to homoerotic fantasies for defense. You are
>as reliable as the sun rising in the east.
Actually Whiney..I didnt pay much attention and thought you were Bill.
But hey...if it works for you...have at it.
Gunner
Doug Miller
>
>But that doesn't keep your mind dead Cretans
What do you have against residents of Crete?
>on the extreme left wing
>from popping up, beating your chests, and making up BS. Now, does it?
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:rqu5j55pn5rjbgfgs...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:33:23 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:56:45 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Gunner really is a lovely human being. I hope everyone agrees.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So one can say then that you are sucking Clitts and Shurleys dick as
>>>>well?
>>>>
>>>>Not that its a big thing or anything. Some of my friends are
>>>>cocksuckers. Even some of the guys. But I generally only let the
>>>>ladies suck mine.
>>
>>"Generally"???
>
> Did gunner just actually come out of the closet and admit his
> homosexuality?
That excites you, doesn't it? That's why you are known as the Douchebag!
Gunner Asch
wrote:
ROFLMAO!!!
There was one time when I was young..picked up this hot wild chick at
the Grande Ballroom..as she was sucking my dick..I reached for her pussy
and found out she was a he.
Zooop...lost that woodie RIGHT NOW. Full shock! Stunned! Then it
Pissed me off a LOT to find out Id been tricked by a drag queen. First
and only time its happened....Im a bit wiser after that.. Check
first..then play...found a few since then....and thanked them for being
interested..but no thanks.
I didnt kick his ass..but it came close. Embaressed the shit out of
me..not being worldly enough to have checked who I was playing with. Id
wondered why folks were looking at me with big smiles on their faces as
I took "her" out to the parking lot. And they laughing their asses off
when I stomped back into the club. LOL...after pondering on it for a
few minutes.....all I could do was laugh with them. "She" was indeed a
good looking lady...chuckle. Better looking than many Id been with up to
that point...all of who had been female. Chuckle....I was all of 16 at
the time...from a very small town..not a lot of that sort of thing
around small towns in those days. Came as quite a shock and a hell of a
learning experience. Shrug. The late 60s...
Hence my "generally" qualifier.
Shrug again.
Lib Loo
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:qna6j5dha1kd3eibd...@4ax.com...
That was no lady, that was the Douchebag sucking your lumber.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:ll17j5dvag0f1l7l9...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:07:36 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:49:31 -0600, "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>>news:rqu5j55pn5rjbgfgs...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:43:05 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>>>> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:33:23 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:56:45 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Gunner really is a lovely human being. I hope everyone agrees.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So one can say then that you are sucking Clitts and Shurleys dick as
>>>>>>>well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not that its a big thing or anything. Some of my friends are
>>>>>>>cocksuckers. Even some of the guys. But I generally only let the
>>>>>>>ladies suck mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Generally"???
>>>>
>>>> Did gunner just actually come out of the closet and admit his
>>>> homosexuality?
>>>
>>>That excites you, doesn't it? That's why you are known as the Douchebag!
>>
>>
>>ROFLMAO!!!
>
> I'm glad that you found admitting your homosexuality so much of a
> psychological release. You know what they say. If you suck just one
> little one, they will call you a queer for the rest of your life.
So are you saying Gunner had a little one then? It seems to have been enough
to jump start your career, Douchebag!
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Its fascinating that he somehow changed having my dick sucked by a drag
queen to me sucking a dick.
But no..thats not all that unusual for Deucebag...he always was a liar
of the worst sort.. Shrug
Im pretty sure he isnt old enough to have been a drag queen in the late
1960s. Im not sure he had even been born in the 80s
Cliff
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>Is this true?
>
>It seems to be bogus.
>
>You can see it here with what appears to be an AP newsline.
>http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977952452
>
>Snopes says not true
>http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp
>
>http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/
>April Fake
>We contacted The Associated Press just to confirm what should be
>obvious, that no such news story ever appeared on the news agency�s
>wires. Jack Stokes, the AP�s manager of media relations, gave us this
>statement:
> AP: The story purported to be from The Associated Press on April 1
>is fake.
>
>
>This guy claims to be a former newspaper editior and knows the guy
>that wrote the story. He says it's bogus.
>http://ems.gmnews.com/news/2009/1216/Greg_Bean/
>
>http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_citizenship_questioned.htm
>Description: Email hoax
>Circulating since: April 2009
>Status: False
>
>
>
>> VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
>>
>> AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over
>>Obama's qualifications for the presidency,the group "Americans for
>>Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college
>>transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript
>>school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry
Gummer has posted these lies before and got caught then too IIRC.
He never learns.
That's how stupid.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Just mention Obama's missing birth certificate and they all come out of the
>woodwork, swearing that they once saw the original before the dog ate it.
None is missing.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:b1d0j5h6temgvbkvo...@4ax.com...
>> Is this true?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
>>
>
>Unfortunately, it just doesn't matter. Libtards are in power and will
>edit-out whatever the truth is about this just like they edit-out the truth
>about most everything. They know the Kool-Aid guzzlers will do, think and
>say whatever they are told. It will never see the light of day if it's
>true.
OTOH Here it was again from gummer & it remains packs of lies.
Just as before.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>Hey Dough? Bite me. Really. Pucker up and suck hard. You know you are
>>good at it.
>>
>>Frankly old boy..I dont remember much before July of this year. I was
>>making service calls because I HAD to. Id walk into a shop, after
>>driving there, and do the job properly. But Id not remember anyones
>>names..people Id worked for for years. I did indeed have memory issues
>>from the stroke. I still do, though they are much much smaller these
>>days.
>
>Let's say that's all true. Let's say you don't remember your earlier
>post.
He cannot go without lying.
There has been no change.
--
Cliff
Lib Loo
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
news:cue9j5dmbodj3pc7p...@4ax.com...
Found those WMD yet?
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:10:29 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o72GDj7svq4
>>But no..thats not all that unusual for Deucebag...he always was a liar
>>of the worst sort.. Shrug
>>
>>Im pretty sure he isnt old enough to have been a drag queen in the late
>>1960s. Im not sure he had even been born in the 80s
>
> Don't back out now gunner. You came so close to facing your sexuality.
> It's a pretty well established fact that someone who engages in
> homosexual acts is a homosexual. Don't try to play straight by saying
> that you played the part of the male in the relationship.
>
> I find your admission and denial in the same story quite entertaining.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:gq3aj5hn821g92tet...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:10:29 -0800, Gunner Asch
> Don't back out now gunner. You came so close to facing your
> sexuality. It's a pretty well established fact that someone who
> engages in homosexual acts is a homosexual. Don't try to play
> straight by saying that you played the part of the male in the
> relationship.
>
> I find your admission and denial in the same story quite entertaining.
You were quite disappointed that he figured out it was you, weren't you
Douchebag?
Lib Loo
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:rr7aj5hphm27ca1s2...@4ax.com...
> Well Goolllie gee, Andy. You agree with me on this one so you forgot
> to mention how stupid I am. And how I'm never right on anything
> because you think I'm a winger.
>
> Merry Christmas, Cliff.
Save the goolllies for the Douchebag, he's the one dressed up as a Mt. Pilot
whore sucking Gomer's dick behind Floyd's barber shop.
Strabo
> On Dec 22, 2:24 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> LOL! I tried convincing Gunner to check before he posts, for years. The
>> conclusion I've reached is that he doesn't care if it's true or not. He just
>> cares if he can get away with it.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
> He obviously does not get away with it, but he does get to see people
> jumping up and down. I think the best strategy is to ignore the posts
> which are obviously wrong. Or maybe have a policy that only one
> person corrects him, and everyone else ignores him.
>
> Dan
>
That's a mature and effective strategy.
Unfortunately, we are inundated with sadomasochistic posters who delight
in trading insults.
Strabo
Gunner Asch
wrote:
<VBG>
Gunner
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:t9gaj5de5hrs73avi...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:44:09 -0800, Gunner Asch
> I was very much looking forward to him manning up and showing up for a
> meet of his own calling. But alas, he turned out being a little girl
> and hiding under his desk while he pissed on himself.
>
> That is what you were talking about wasn't it?
You mean the meet that you didn't post an address to? That was real brave of
you. Not.
No, I was talking about the time you were sucking his dick outside the
Palace. You didn't think he was a little girl then. Quite the opposite, he
thought you were the little girl. In a way, he was right!
Observer
wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:44:09 -0800, Gunner Asch
>I was very much looking forward to him manning up and showing up for a
>meet of his own calling. But alas, he turned out being a little girl
>and hiding under his desk while he pissed on himself.
Herr Gumby has alluded to being a dominatrix.
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:p1unj5dpq8pdtbtpu...@4ax.com...
> Hell, he's admitted to having a guy suck his dick as a teenager. That
> admission explains so much about his psychological projection
> regarding homosexuality. Just think how traumatizing it must have
> been when he found out that he could be satisfied by a grown man when
> he was in his formative teen years.
>
> Who knows that could have been the triggering event that caused him to
> take on an alter ego (even with a different name) to form his
> imaginary live as a war hero. It really could be the event that
> caused his break with reality that has caused him to tell hundreds of
> lies trying to prove that he really...really is a man although he
> knows that it was a man who brought him from childhood to manhood.
>
> I look at his admission of his homosexual relationship as a going away
> present to me since he will indeed be permanently kill filed before
> midnight tomorrow night. He will simply be another piece of trash not
> worth the time required to point out his incessant lies as he tries to
> make his miserable existence appear palatable to normal people.
>
> Good riddance to his sorry ass. He would already be gone were it not
> for those damned so called conservatives requiring doctors and other
> medical professionals to donate their time and efforts to those who
> did not have enough sense to take care of themselves.
Hey Douchebag, Why don't you go choke another chicken for your dinner in
your little O'booverville. LOL, You had the jump on everyone, already living
in an O'booverville thus not having to downgrade. Smart!
Curly Surmudgeon
And confessed to blow jobs with a ladyboy.