Coleman w/Honda vs Generac
Steve Lee
Just looking for some advice on a Coleman w/ Honda I think it's
about 3.5 kw vs. a Generac 4000xl.
Thanks,
-Steve
robbie
Steve Lee wrote in message <35F21148...@worldnet.att.net>...
robbie
robbie wrote in message
>>He said to get the Stratton and Briggs motor, probably I misspelled the
names, but you know who I mean. He also mentioned that generac is his pick
of one of the most dependable. Just passing the inf. as you ask a question.
He did say that to only expect 1500 hours of use before repair. To only run
the generator a few hours a day and not to over buy.
And to the private e mial I got, I know what you mean about American Brand
names made elsewhere, I can't
find any product I use to like that is now made in the U.S. thanks to the
politicians that started nafta,gaff,and fast track. Thank them. We export
the raw material and get cheap junk back at inflated prices. Sorry I didn't
mean to go there but every factor I have worked in is gone now. It is a
sore spot that isn't healing very well.
Frank Seymour
minimum, the exhaust valve is going to be the first thing to go,I believe as
it sounds sort of rough as it shuts down. (guessing,as my 2.5LK (1972) Onan
lost its exhaust valve first,with the same symptoms,(ie little less
power,little more (hiss) noise on ignition cut), Note the Onan has had many
years of use,and still kept ticking over and over and over. The best advice
is to change the oil regularly,and keep lots of spark plugs on hand (not
from excess burn out,but from many hours use,do they go.)
msm...@-ix-.netcom.com
wrote:
>Hey folks,
> Just looking for some advice on a Coleman w/ Honda I think it's
>about 3.5 kw vs. a Generac 4000xl.
>
>Thanks,
>-Steve
>
What about the non honda generators with a honda motor? Do they use
the same grade of motor, are there different grades? Any experiences
with them quality wise. Are they more fuel efficient than others. They
seem to be cheaper than the honda brand generators but more expensive
than B&S powered ones.
Has anyone noticed that coleman is using tecumseh engines, I thought
they used to be powered by B&S? Are the tecumseh engines more reliable
or more durable than B&S.
Thanks
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stories about colemans....Call your local tool rental store and get their
advise... We know we deal in generators every day.
Steve Lee
them! I can tell by the specs they are more conservative with their
numbers but geesh I don't know if Honda is worth 3X the price. Even their
own product line has the deluxe models costing double of their econcomy
models but I don't see the justification through the specs.
-Steve
Martin Dolan
robbie wrote in message
>I heard Chuck Harder say to get American made so you can get parts later
on.
>> Just looking for some advice on a Coleman w/ Honda I think it's
>>about 3.5 kw vs. a Generac 4000xl.
mowers but for a few. { I worked at a hardware store in while in college}
Honda is not a B&S motor, but they are sweet little machines. the start fast
some have push button ignitions, and QUITE wow, this is a big plus, I was on
Kauai after the last hurricane and boy the noise these things make when
everyone in the neighborhood is running one wears you thin P.D.Q. that's my
2 cents, hope it helps. Aloha, Martin
Frank Seymour
Never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till it is catastrophic...
spent all day rigging alternator onto riding lawnmower to charge batteries
(thanks www.epicenter.com)
Frank Seymour wrote in message <6su74q$nmi$1...@news2.ispnews.com>...
>I own and use daily a generac 3600XL. It is at the 5000+ hour mark at
>minimum, the exhaust valve is going to be the first thing to go,I believe
as
>it sounds sort of rough as it shuts down. (guessing,as my 2.5LK (1972) Onan
>lost its exhaust valve first,with the same symptoms,(ie little less
>power,little more (hiss) noise on ignition cut), Note the Onan has had many
>years of use,and still kept ticking over and over and over. The best advice
>is to change the oil regularly,and keep lots of spark plugs on hand (not
>from excess burn out,but from many hours use,do they go.)
>
>Steve Lee wrote in message <35F21148...@worldnet.att.net>...
>>Hey folks,
>> Just looking for some advice on a Coleman w/ Honda I think it's
>>about 3.5 kw vs. a Generac 4000xl.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-Steve
>>
>>
>
>
allec...@my-dejanews.com
Briggs. When they sell the quantities Coleman sells it adds up.
Generac makes different grades of generators. Many use Briggs or Tec.
engines. Some Have their own engine. These are usually the better units.
You don't have to buy a Honda generator to get their quality. Honda does't
make their own generator parts anyway. A generator you plan to use fairly
often is worth spendind the extra money to get a Honda, Robin, or
Kawasaki Engine.
John G,
In article <35F3216D...@worldnet.att.net>,
Steve Lee <Stev...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Honda brand generators are so d@mn exspensive! I just got a price sheet on
> them! I can tell by the specs they are more conservative with their
> numbers but geesh I don't know if Honda is worth 3X the price. Even their
> own product line has the deluxe models costing double of their econcomy
> models but I don't see the justification through the specs.
>
> -Steve
>
> msmord@-ix-.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > On 6 Sep 1998 04:34:09 GMT, Steve Lee <Stev...@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hey folks,
> > > Just looking for some advice on a Coleman w/ Honda I think it's
> > >about 3.5 kw vs. a Generac 4000xl.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >-Steve
> > >
> >
> > What about the non honda generators with a honda motor? Do they use
> > the same grade of motor, are there different grades? Any experiences
> > with them quality wise. Are they more fuel efficient than others. They
> > seem to be cheaper than the honda brand generators but more expensive
> > than B&S powered ones.
> >
> > Has anyone noticed that coleman is using tecumseh engines, I thought
> > they used to be powered by B&S? Are the tecumseh engines more reliable
> > or more durable than B&S.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Luck is opportunity meeting preparedness.
> >
> > To respond via E-mail remove both - from my address.
>
>
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allec...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> The Tecumseh engines are sold to Coleman for a little less than
> Briggs. When they sell the quantities Coleman sells it adds up.
> Generac makes different grades of generators. Many use Briggs or Tec.
> engines. Some Have their own engine. These are usually the better units.
> You don't have to buy a Honda generator to get their quality. Honda does't
> make their own generator parts anyway. A generator you plan to use fairly
> often is worth spendind the extra money to get a Honda, Robin, or
> Kawasaki Engine.
What about the Generac-Nagano OHV engine used in Generacs' higher end and
industrial units? I've been considering a 5500XL or a 6500XL. And for those of
you in the Puget sound region, if you're thinking about a new generator, you'd
best get one ASAP. With all the recent publicity given the coming La Nina and
possible weather severities, they are really starting to move off the dealers'
shelves.
flyi...@my-dejanews.com
Colemans in short order and will never buy another. My Honda is now 15 years
old and got used on a daily basis in the winter. I finally had to get the carb
overhauled and I am ready for using it again this winter. It is my primary
electric source in the back country.
Rocky
In article <6v3bhs$7qt$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
allec...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> The Tecumseh engines are sold to Coleman for a little less than
> Briggs. When they sell the quantities Coleman sells it adds up.
> Generac makes different grades of generators. Many use Briggs or Tec.
> engines. Some Have their own engine. These are usually the better units.
> You don't have to buy a Honda generator to get their quality. Honda does't
> make their own generator parts anyway. A generator you plan to use fairly
> often is worth spendind the extra money to get a Honda, Robin, or
> Kawasaki Engine.
>
trie...@webtv.net
had a domestic brand. Constant breakdowns, repair costs.
Hondas have them beat hands down, and very little breakdowns and five
times the worklife.
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flyi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> For its value I think the Honda generators are a good deal. I've worn out 2
> Colemans in short order and will never buy another. My Honda is now 15 years
> old and got used on a daily basis in the winter. I finally had to get the carb
> overhauled and I am ready for using it again this winter. It is my primary
> electric source in the back country.
> Rocky
What kind of Colemans did you wear out so rapidly? B&S/Tecumseh side valves or
Honda OHV units? And what wore out on them, the engine or the generator?
alys...@my-dejanews.com
this thred. I was trying to decide betwen the Generac 5000 and the 4000XL so
I called Generac (800-333-1322) and spoke to a rep. The rep. said the XL's
has their engine and better features ; Voltage regulator therfore a harmonic
distortion of between 3 & 5%, half load continuous duty of 13.5 hours on a 4
gal tank, overhead vale industrial engine, full pressure lubrication and a
muffler. Both the 5K and the 4KXL are air cooled and have brushes. The
Generac 5K has splash lubrication, half load continuous duty of 7 hours per 5
gal tank, Tucumsa engine(414-377-2700). As the rep. put it 'it's a no frills
model *not* suitable for electronics' I should have checked out the
Colman/Honda engine more, I just didn't think that 3.5K would be enough
power. Anyone have an opinion on spending the $800 bucks to rewire our houses
main power box to the genny or simply hooking in after the Main switch?
$800 seems like a large expence to isolate the genny when the main braker
does the same thing.
alyssa, with much thanks to 'the Jucie Page' for the most excelent pointers!!!
In article <6v3bhs$7qt$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
allec...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> The Tecumseh engines are sold to Coleman for a little less than
> Briggs. When they sell the quantities Coleman sells it adds up.
> Generac makes different grades of generators. Many use Briggs or Tec.
> engines. Some Have their own engine. These are usually the better units.
> You don't have to buy a Honda generator to get their quality. Honda does't
> make their own generator parts anyway. A generator you plan to use fairly
> often is worth spendind the extra money to get a Honda, Robin, or
> Kawasaki Engine.
>
> John G,
>
>
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<alys...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>power. Anyone have an opinion on spending the $800 bucks to rewire our houses
>main power box to the genny or simply hooking in after the Main switch?
>$800 seems like a large expence to isolate the genny when the main braker
>does the same thing.
Well, unless you install some fool proof method of ensuring that there
is no possible way of backfeeding the grid, you run the risk of frying
some lineman somewhere should you ever accidently do so. And simply
saying "I'll remember to flip the breaker" isn't enough, it needs to
be an automatic operation.
FWIW, I just bought a 30amp contactor (big relay) and installed it on
the line coming in from my generator, so when the generator is on, all
the loads on one set of circuits switch from my inverter to the
generator, then switch back when the generator is shut off. Works
great, and no danger of me blowing up my inverter, and more
importantly, it's automatic. Cost $18. I got two of them so I can do
a seperate circuit for my fridge and air conditioner.
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