Obama’s giveaway: Oil-rich islands to Russia

[Lil Abner]

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

[Matt Simpson]

In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, Lil Abner <.@Dais.eys>
wrote:

> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/

[Billy]

In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, Lil Abner <.@Dais.eys>
wrote:

> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

Before you post dribble, why don't you check the facts first?

<http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>
Alaskan Island Giveaway?

Q: Is President Obama giving away several Alaskan islands to Russia?

A: No. The U.S. has never claimed ownership of the islands identified in
viral emails and websites. They lie far closer to the coast of Siberia
than to Alaska.

--
E Pluribus Unum

Know where your money is tonight?
It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable.


The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama."
Vote 3rd Party

[Larry]

In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, .@Dais.eys says...
>
> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

Yep, gave up claims to Vladivostok and Novobirsk too. Still negotiating about
ownership of Moscow.

[Bob F]

I'm constantly amazed by the lies right wingers will believe.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Obama will never give up Moscow. It's his.

[Bob F]

Wow. you are clueless!

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Wow! You have no sense of humor. Lefties don't. Humor requires a brain.

[Bob F]

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:33:24 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:46:21 -0700, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, .@Dais.eys says...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/
>>>>
>>>> Yep, gave up claims to Vladivostok and Novobirsk too. Still
>>>> negotiating about ownership of Moscow.
>>>
>>> Obama will never give up Moscow. It's his.
>>
>> Wow. you are clueless!
>
> Wow! You have no sense of humor. Lefties don't. Humor requires a
> brain.

You actually think that was funny? You really are clueless.

Humor requires a brain.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:54:43 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:33:24 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:46:21 -0700, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, .@Dais.eys says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, gave up claims to Vladivostok and Novobirsk too. Still
>>>>> negotiating about ownership of Moscow.
>>>>
>>>> Obama will never give up Moscow. It's his.
>>>
>>> Wow. you are clueless!
>>
>> Wow! You have no sense of humor. Lefties don't. Humor requires a
>> brain.
>
>You actually think that was funny? You really are clueless.

Point proven.

>Humor requires a brain.

Exactly, which is why you lefties are so dour.

[Billy]

In article <rdh7u7h9h13ue6kbn...@4ax.com>,

That's because we are fact based elitists ;O)
<http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:30:14 -0700, Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:

>In article <rdh7u7h9h13ue6kbn...@4ax.com>,
> "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:54:43 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:33:24 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:46:21 -0700, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> In article <MC2Er.4674$3z3....@newsfe01.iad>, .@Dais.eys says...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yep, gave up claims to Vladivostok and Novobirsk too. Still
>> >>>>> negotiating about ownership of Moscow.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Obama will never give up Moscow. It's his.
>> >>>
>> >>> Wow. you are clueless!
>> >>
>> >> Wow! You have no sense of humor. Lefties don't. Humor requires a
>> >> brain.
>> >
>> >You actually think that was funny? You really are clueless.
>>
>> Point proven.
>>
>> >Humor requires a brain.
>>
>> Exactly, which is why you lefties are so dour.
>
>That's because we are fact based elitists ;O)

You're only half right. You are elitists. Like today's grade school
children, pride without accomplishment.

><http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>

Your point?

[Bob F]

Whoosh!

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Get your head out of the toilet, lefty!

[Billy]

In article <fg0cu79sfjpo41lnc...@4ax.com>,

Students lean new knowledge everyday, and then have to show that they
can use that knowledge. Seems like it has been too long since you were a
student. You take pride in ignorant statements, without caring that they
are ignorant.

<http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>
> >>
> > Your point?
>
> Whoosh!
>
> Get your head out of the toilet, lefty!

And that statement only shows that you are a slow learner, who prefers
invectives to facts.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR200802
1502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR>
According to a 2006 survey by National Geographic-Roper, nearly half of
Americans between ages 18 and 24 do not think it necessary to know the
location of other countries in which important news is being made. More
than a third consider it "not at all important" to know a foreign
language, and only 14 percent consider it "very important."

That leads us to the . . . final factor behind the new American
dumbness: not lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of
knowledge. The problem is not just the things we do not know (consider
the one in five American adults who, according to the National Science
Foundation, thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming
number of Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to
know such things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a
syndrome that is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and
discourse. Not knowing a foreign language or the location of an
important country is a manifestation of ignorance; denying that such
knowledge matters is pure anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of
anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts discussions of U.S. public policy
on topics from health care to taxation.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Another clueless lefty heard from.

><http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>
>> >>
>> > Your point?
>>
>> Whoosh!
>>
>> Get your head out of the toilet, lefty!
>And that statement only shows that you are a slow learner, who prefers
>invectives to facts.

As I said, another clueless lefty.

><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR200802
>1502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR>
>According to a 2006 survey by National Geographic-Roper, nearly half of
>Americans between ages 18 and 24 do not think it necessary to know the
>location of other countries in which important news is being made. More
>than a third consider it "not at all important" to know a foreign
>language, and only 14 percent consider it "very important."


>That leads us to the . . . final factor behind the new American
>dumbness: not lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of
>knowledge.

Now, go back and read, this time for comprehension.

>The problem is not just the things we do not know (consider
>the one in five American adults who, according to the National Science
>Foundation, thinks the sun revolves around the Earth);

I don't believe it. I do believe that one in five is smart enough to answer a
silly question with a sillier answer.

>it's the alarming
>number of Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to
>know such things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a
>syndrome that is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and
>discourse. Not knowing a foreign language or the location of an
>important country is a manifestation of ignorance; denying that such
>knowledge matters is pure anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of
>anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts discussions of U.S. public policy
>on topics from health care to taxation.

Yes, they're called "Democrats".

[Billy]

In article <4npcu7lo8kk0ri4pt...@4ax.com>,

"k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:54:42 -0700, Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> You're only half right. You are elitists. Like today's grade school
> >> >> children, pride without accomplishment.
>
> >Students lean new knowledge everyday, and then have to show that they
> >can use that knowledge. Seems like it has been too long since you were a
> >student. You take pride in ignorant statements, without caring that they
> >are ignorant.
>
> Another clueless lefty heard from.

Do you have facts to support that I am clueless? They aren't in
evidence.
Liberals hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable
rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Many Democratic politicians are corrupt, but it also seems that all
Republican politicians are dingbat crazy. It hasn't always been so.

<http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>

No one is giving away American property, except, perhaps, to the fossil
fuel, and mining interests. Can you not read?

> >> Get your head out of the toilet, lefty!

And that statement only shows that you are a slow learner, who prefers
invectives to facts.
>
> As I said, another clueless lefty.
>
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR200802
1502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR>
According to a 2006 survey by National Geographic-Roper, nearly half of
Americans between ages 18 and 24 do not think it necessary to know the
location of other countries in which important news is being made. More
than a third consider it "not at all important" to know a foreign
language, and only 14 percent consider it "very important."
>
>
That leads us to the . . . final factor behind the new American
dumbness: not lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of
>knowledge.

The problem is not just the things we do not know (consider
the one in five American adults who, according to the National Science

Foundation, thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming

number of Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to
know such things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a
syndrome that is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and
discourse. Not knowing a foreign language or the location of an
important country is a manifestation of ignorance; denying that such
knowledge matters is pure anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of
anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts discussions of U.S. public policy
on topics from health care to taxation.
>
> Yes, they're called "Democrats".

What's your proof for that statement, or is this just more opinion
shoveled out of your backside?

As Molly Ivins once said,"When you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging."

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:29:54 -0700, Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:

>In article <4npcu7lo8kk0ri4pt...@4ax.com>,
> "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:54:42 -0700, Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> You're only half right. You are elitists. Like today's grade school
>> >> >> children, pride without accomplishment.
>>
>> >Students lean new knowledge everyday, and then have to show that they
>> >can use that knowledge. Seems like it has been too long since you were a
>> >student. You take pride in ignorant statements, without caring that they
>> >are ignorant.
>>
>> Another clueless lefty heard from.
>Do you have facts to support that I am clueless?

Your words.

>They aren't in
>evidence.
>Liberals hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable
>rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
>That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
>deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Except you don't believe that. You believe that all men are equal. You gloss
over the "created" part. IOW, you have no clue what you're quoting, above.

>Many Democratic politicians are corrupt, but it also seems that all
>Republican politicians are dingbat crazy. It hasn't always been so.

Again, you demonstrate your cluelessness. *All* Democratic politicians are
corrupt and many/most are dingbat crazy (though, you too are probably worried
that Guam will capsize because of all of the service men "on board"). Your
last sentence has some merit, though the Democratic party has driven out all
of the decent and intelligent politicians (e.g Zell Miller), or they've died
off (Pat Moynahan).

><http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/>


Is there a reason you keep inserting this trash? Do you really think anyone
believes it (though there are dumber things the Democrats are really doing).

>No one is giving away American property, except, perhaps, to the fossil
>fuel, and mining interests. Can you not read?

More cluelessness admitted. Perhaps you've heard of LOST? I suppose not.

>> >> Get your head out of the toilet, lefty!
>
>And that statement only shows that you are a slow learner, who prefers
>invectives to facts.

No, you're the one with your head clearly in the toilet, though you snipped
context. ...a lie as you lefties are wont to do.

>> As I said, another clueless lefty.
>>
><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR200802
>1502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR>
>According to a 2006 survey by National Geographic-Roper, nearly half of
>Americans between ages 18 and 24 do not think it necessary to know the
>location of other countries in which important news is being made. More
>than a third consider it "not at all important" to know a foreign
>language, and only 14 percent consider it "very important."

Why don't you keep context, liar? ...and you think young people are smart and
the schools doing their jobs?

>That leads us to the . . . final factor behind the new American
>dumbness: not lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of
>>knowledge.
>
>
>The problem is not just the things we do not know (consider
>the one in five American adults who, according to the National Science
>Foundation, thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming
>number of Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to
>know such things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a
>syndrome that is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and
>discourse. Not knowing a foreign language or the location of an
>important country is a manifestation of ignorance; denying that such
>knowledge matters is pure anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of
>anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts discussions of U.S. public policy
>on topics from health care to taxation.
>>
>> Yes, they're called "Democrats".
>What's your proof for that statement, or is this just more opinion
>shoveled out of your backside?

Oh, invective! I thought you lefties were pure as the driven snow. Well, you
do demonstrate that you're as hypocritical as all other lefties.

>As Molly Ivins once said,"When you find yourself in a hole, stop
>digging."

Perhaps you should. Better yet, learn something (but then you'd no longer be
a lefty).

[Billy]

In article <fpdeu7t9ros0uv91s...@4ax.com>,
"k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

At least the exchange demonstrates where we are with communication. The
Republicans don't want to. The truth is that the Republican Party, and
most of the important Democrats are owned by corporations. It costs $1
billion to run for president?

The so called liberal press is owned by corporations.
<http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php>
Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
GENERAL ELECTRIC, and WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC. are arms manufacturers as
well, and they represent the "Lame Stream" media? In any event,
advertising revenue can affect editorial stances.

Where does the money go? It goes mostly to institutions as welfare, i.e.
the bank bailouts, fossil fuel extractors (depletion allowances), and
government, weapon programs.

Banks borrow money from the FED at 0.5% interest, and return the money
to the Treasury for 2.5% bonds. Investment banks didn't care if the
subprime loans were bad. They rolled them into derivatives which were
feloniously graded as AAA, and sold them for a profit anyway. There is
no money for those who lost money investing in sub-prime loans, or
watched as the value of their homes collapsed.

This election isn't about Civil Rights, or Family Values, but about
money, and who gets more and less of it.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:02:50 -0700, Billy <wild...@withoutta.net> wrote:

>In article <fpdeu7t9ros0uv91s...@4ax.com>,
> "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>At least the exchange demonstrates where we are with communication. The
>Republicans don't want to.

Wow! What a liar.

>The truth is that the Republican Party, and
>most of the important Democrats are owned by corporations. It costs $1
>billion to run for president?

...and who was the first billion dollar President? ...by a *long* shot. Who,
historically, gets more from the big-bad corporations?

>The so called liberal press is owned by corporations.
><http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php>
>Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
>GENERAL ELECTRIC, and WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC. are arms manufacturers as
>well, and they represent the "Lame Stream" media? In any event,
>advertising revenue can affect editorial stances.

It can. The fact that they're also arms manufacturers has little to do with
anything, though.

>Where does the money go? It goes mostly to institutions as welfare, i.e.
>the bank bailouts, fossil fuel extractors (depletion allowances), and
>government, weapon programs.

You have a lot to learn.

>Banks borrow money from the FED at 0.5% interest, and return the money
>to the Treasury for 2.5% bonds. Investment banks didn't care if the
>subprime loans were bad. They rolled them into derivatives which were
>feloniously graded as AAA, and sold them for a profit anyway. There is
>no money for those who lost money investing in sub-prime loans, or
>watched as the value of their homes collapsed.

...and Bernake is who's stooge?

>This election isn't about Civil Rights, or Family Values, but about
>money, and who gets more and less of it.

Who are you voting for?