wild cherry tree and goats
andyh
on my property. I've been told the leaves off these trees will kill a
goat. i plan on cutting them down and cleaning the leaves from around
them before i get my goats. Will this work for me?
Don Bruder
"andyh" <andyha...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
According to my understanding, *FRESH* cherry leaves are OK for most, if
not all, critters. However, *WILTED* cherry leaves develop surprisingly
(and dangerously) large quantities of cyanide as they wilt, and have
been at least implicated (and in some cases, conclusively determined to
be the cause) in quite a few horse, sheep, goat, and cattle poisonings.
Better safe than sorry - no cherry leaves, whether fresh, wilted, or
otherwise, means no risk of dead goats.
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tea...@canada.com
see a deer munch a fallen wild cherry leaf, they will sniff and walk
away. Have felled many wild cherries.
The deer around here come calling as soon as they hear the saws
running, its the new leafy growth that attracts them.
enigma
news:1161478750.9...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> All wild or pin cherry leaves are toxic or poisonous. You
> will never see a deer munch a fallen wild cherry leaf, they
> will sniff and walk away. Have felled many wild cherries.
> The deer around here come calling as soon as they hear the
> saws running, its the new leafy growth that attracts them.
wilted leaves are toxic. fresh leaves or dried leaves aren't
a problem. same goes for maple, according to my vet. i have 2
cherry trees overhanging the pasture. they were there through
20 years of the previous owner's sheep & through 7 years (so
far) of my llamas, goats & cattle. no problems.
lee
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Ann
> tea...@canada.com wrote in
> news:1161478750.9...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> All wild or pin cherry leaves are toxic or poisonous. You will never
>> see a deer munch a fallen wild cherry leaf, they will sniff and walk
>> away. Have felled many wild cherries. The deer around here come calling
>> as soon as they hear the saws running, its the new leafy growth that
>> attracts them.
>
> wilted leaves are toxic. fresh leaves or dried leaves aren't
> a problem. same goes for maple, according to my vet. i have 2 cherry
> trees overhanging the pasture. they were there through 20 years of the
> previous owner's sheep & through 7 years (so far) of my llamas, goats &
> cattle. no problems. lee
A cousin rents out a barn/pasture and when he decided to have some black
cherry trees in the pasture cut, the logger wouldn't do it until the
cattle were in the barn for the winter. Also, the local REC had its R-o-W
sprayed with a delayed action herbicide, but neglected to inform
landowners of the manufacturer's instructions not to pasture cattle for a
year. In this instance, the cattle deaths were traced to apple trees. (It
used to be common for farmers to have a small orchard. Probably credit to
the deer, volunteer no-name apple trees are common.)
This article mentions being sure to kill any subsequent sprouts after
cutting cherry, etc trees.
http://www.vims.edu/bio/faculty/perry_docs/Poisonous_Plants/cherries-MAPACA.pdf
It seems that it's mostly a "circumstances" thing. Another risk might be a
bad storm that brings down limbs/trees while they're leafed out.
enigma
news:pan.2006.10.22....@epix.net:
> It seems that it's mostly a "circumstances" thing. Another
> risk might be a bad storm that brings down limbs/trees
> while they're leafed out.
pretty much. i do make sure wind downed branches get picked
up immediately & one low branch that the llamas ate the bark
off we cut & removed before they got to the leaves.
llamas & goats are browsers, so the bark is more appealing
than the leaves... assuming there is ample other browse or
feed available. i think where one could get into trouble with
the goats is in summer, if the pasture is poor, there's little
other browse & leaves wilt quickly if they debark the trees.
i'd also cut & remove cherry either before the animals went
on the pasture, or in winter, if i was going to remove the
trees. assuming the trees in the OPs pasture aren't the only
shade, it may be wiser to get them out first. depends on how
big the pasture is, how many goats, & what else there is to
eat. not exactly something we can see online ;)
my summer pasture is 12 or 13 acres & it's crossfenced so i
can rotate pastures if it's dry, but mostly it's open. i have
5 llamas & 4 goats currently, but have had up to 7 Scottish
Highland cattle in the mix at the same time. i don't exactly
overstock. the cattle are not mine though.
my winter pasture is just over an acre. i have to wire wrap
any trees i want to keep in there. the animals have done a
great job of brush clearing for me in there. i'm having a
timber harvest this winter, & all the pine on 62 acres is
going, either as logs or chipped. i hate pine. that'll open up
the winter pasture even more & give the sugar maple in it more
room... but it means i'll be moving the animals back & forth
between pastures a couple times this winter.