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D&JG

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:14:00 PM11/7/09
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We have a frog living in our only rain water tank. Don't know what it's
living on but it has been there for months. As this is our only drinking
water supply, is a live frog going to contaminate the supply? Should we try
to remove the frog? If so, how do we do this? Swim around with a net? The
tank is above-ground, fiberglass, about 10 feet diameter and 6 feet high
with an insect screen where the rain water enters.

Jane


Larry Caldwell

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:03:07 PM11/7/09
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In article <4af5ff41$0$53462$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
donan...@dodo.com.au (D&JG) says...

I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's unlikely that frog coliform
bacteria would thrive in your digestive tract. I have had frogs in the
well where I live for years, and nobody has ever gotten sick off of the
water. You need a filter on the outflow. If this is a little girl
frog, you may end up with frog eggs or pollywogs getting into your
plumbing.

For rainwater collection, the contamination you should be worrying about
is bird crap. Being warm blooded, birds carry all sorts of dangerous to
humans bacteria. If you chlorinate your cistern, the frog will leave.
Starts with a few drops of bleach and gradually increase the quantity.
He will move out, and the bacteria will die. Tank chlorination is
pretty easy, since the amount of chlorine depends on how long the water
is subject to treatment. It sounds like you have a 2000 gallon tank. A
half a cup of fresh bleach should be enough to treat the whole tank if
the water sits in there for a week. You will barely taste it.

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D&JG

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:12:34 AM11/8/09
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"Larry Caldwell" <firstnamel...@peaksky.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, Larry. On reflection, when we were kids we used to swim in creeks
with frogs all over the place. Never got sick. Nevertheless, in goes the
bleach...

Jane


D&JG

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:58:37 PM11/9/09
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"D&JG" <donan...@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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Er... What about when the frog dies ???


Steve.IA

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:48:28 AM11/10/09
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"D&JG" <donan...@dodo.com.au> wrote in
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>>>
>>> --
>> Thanks, Larry. On reflection, when we were kids we used to swim in
>> creeks with frogs all over the place. Never got sick. Nevertheless,
>> in goes the bleach...
>>
>> Jane
> Er... What about when the frog dies ???
>
>
>

The frog will go to froggy heaven or hell, depending.
You will have forgetten about it by then and be none the worse. Until
next spring when you hear a little "ribbit, ribbit, ribbit".

Sleep well,
Steve

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Larry Caldwell

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:56:47 AM11/10/09
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In article <4af8f30d$0$78374$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
donan...@dodo.com.au (D&JG) says...

> Er... What about when the frog dies ???

Just start adding a few drops of bleach at a time. The frog will get
out the same way it got in.

AL

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:20:03 AM11/10/09
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Larry Caldwell wrote:
> In article <4af8f30d$0$78374$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
> donan...@dodo.com.au (D&JG) says...
>
>> Er... What about when the frog dies ???
>
> Just start adding a few drops of bleach at a time. The frog will get
> out the same way it got in.
>


If it is a 2000gal tank (an assumption) a cup of bleach won't affect the
water to the point of harming the frog. The amount of bleach needed to
sanitize water really is amazingly low. I used to mix sanitizing
solution for my food type business and it took only 3-5 drops/gal of
water - not nearly enough to even smell. There are test strips
available at restaurant suppliers that work great for getting the right
amount of bleach without over doing it. My first health dept inspection
asked what I use for sanitizer and I proudly announced bleach water,
thinking I knew what I was doing. The inspector tested the mix, the
strip came out coal black - he said that was considered toxic and I
should dial it back.


If the frog did die in the tank it would just be offensive from a
yuk_factor. If people could actually inspect their water supplies or the
supply pipes coming to their faucets most would likely give up water for
beer - I did...

Jim Elbrecht

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:46:52 AM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:20:03 -0600, AL <lit...@hamiltoncom.net> wrote:

>Larry Caldwell wrote:
>> In article <4af8f30d$0$78374$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
>> donan...@dodo.com.au (D&JG) says...
>>
>>> Er... What about when the frog dies ???
>>
>> Just start adding a few drops of bleach at a time. The frog will get
>> out the same way it got in.
>>
>
>
>If it is a 2000gal tank (an assumption) a cup of bleach won't affect the
>water to the point of harming the frog.

I had two tree frogs hang out at my swimming pool for three years--
and now that we've traded pool for Hot tub I have one that takes an
occasional swim in the hot tub with me. By the time any chlorine
repels a frog, the humans will have quit using the water. [or died
from its effects]

>The amount of bleach needed to
>sanitize water really is amazingly low. I used to mix sanitizing
>solution for my food type business and it took only 3-5 drops/gal of
>water - not nearly enough to even smell.

*Way* less than you can smell.

> There are test strips
>available at restaurant suppliers that work great for getting the right
>amount of bleach without over doing it. My first health dept inspection
>asked what I use for sanitizer and I proudly announced bleach water,
>thinking I knew what I was doing. The inspector tested the mix, the
>strip came out coal black - he said that was considered toxic and I
>should dial it back.
>
>
>If the frog did die in the tank it would just be offensive from a
>yuk_factor. If people could actually inspect their water supplies or the
>supply pipes coming to their faucets most would likely give up water for
>beer - I did...

Amen-- Make mine bourbon, though. I find that a 50/50 mix of water &
bourbon is quite palatable.

Jim

Doug

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:26:48 PM11/10/09
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I'm not sure what I gave up for beer. Nothing probably. Just like beer!
Tho my belly may wonder if a couple of cocktails might be easier on the
waist (waste?) line. Damn, I hate conceding another couple inches when I
buy new jeans. Those 2" increments are painful. I still remember the 30"
x 36" days. My height is the same but..................................
It was much easier to go "Oh OK my hair is white" the last time I
renewed my Drivers License.
As for the frog....I was in Mexico many years ago and the last thing I
remember one night was the guy showing me something in the bottom of the
bottle.............That was probably three lifetimes ago. The OP won't
remember or realize a thing about him.
Ah, the memories are flooding through tonite.
Dinner time. Shepherd's pie. We've never done that one before. Sure
looked/smelled good as we were putting it together. Doug

AL

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:18:50 AM11/11/09
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Well from what I've heard, once you are in the southwest the frogs (or
toads?) are good for licking - then again it *is* against the law out
there to lick toads. Really, what state or local government could in all
seriousness pass a law against licking toads??? I'm thinking what a hoot
the council meeting must have been that night. Do they also have one
against biting your toenails?

So while you are asking about "white hair" for your driver's license I
find myself asking "what hair"?

Sheperd's pie is the ultimate example why a Scottish restaurant should
be avoided. There is a Scottish eatery in Cosby TN - no thank you...

Doug

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:05:15 AM11/11/09
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The Shepard's Pie turned out pretty good. A couple adjustments, minor,
next time, and it will be better yet. Never been to a Scottish eatery. A
couple of Irish Pubs........

Jim Elbrecht

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:05:23 AM11/11/09
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AL <lit...@hamiltoncom.net> wrote:

-snip-


>
>Sheperd's pie is the ultimate example why a Scottish restaurant should
>be avoided. There is a Scottish eatery in Cosby TN - no thank you...

I Americanize it and use ground beef. Cheaper- and fits my palette
better.

Jim

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