non dirt tracking work shoes for rural folks
Frank
the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
Frank
middle Georgia
My correct e-mail address is gn052 (not gn52)
Fake adddress given to avoid spams
AL
>
> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
> the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
> soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
> them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
I don't have that problem.
The rule at my house is remove boots or shoes - always. Our floors stay
clean and our 15 yr. old carpets look like new.
You will be better off finding boots that slip on & off easily than
smooth soles. Those cleats are pretty handy for traction.
AL
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Lynn Coffelt
> I don't have that problem.
>
> The rule at my house is remove boots or shoes - always. Our floors stay
> clean and our 15 yr. old carpets look like new.
>
> You will be better off finding boots that slip on & off easily than
> smooth soles. Those cleats are pretty handy for traction.
>
> AL
Hey, I'm with you, Al! After waltzing through the mud and manure it just
makes some kind of sense to kick off the boots/shoes every time.
Grandkiddies learning to crawl on our floor don't come up looking like they
were in the garden too!
(Wife is beginning to think our clean, but 15 year old carpets don't meet
modern trends!)
(rural doesn't have to mean dirty)
Lynn
Louis Fookaiser
garbage or whatever, we use slip-on rubber boots that cost
around $15 a pair most anywhere. They come off when we
go inside. Not much tread on them but mud still sticks.
Some people use the slip-on plastic booties over their shoes,
that are sold for biosecurity purposes. These are OK if you
are in a hurry and need to run inside for something, and don't
want to take the time to wash off or remove your boots. You
wear the booties over your shoes when you go inside and take
them off when you go back out.
Still no easy answer when it's mudsville and you're trying to
bring in a load of >whatever< from the car to the house.
Louis
"Frank" <gn...@accucomm.net> wrote in message
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AL
> (rural doesn't have to mean dirty)
Well said!
Larry Caldwell
gn...@accucomm.net writes:
> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
> the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
> soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
> them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
That's why God created mud rooms. Mine is the side door entry to the
garage. It has a porch roof, a bench for removing boots next to the
door, a scrusher boot scrubber bolted to the concrete, and a hose bib
with a spray nozzle for cleaning off boots and rain gear. Inside the
door are a couple forced air boot dryers.
Sometimes I am mud clear to my ass after working outside. It's worth
doing a little plumbing and carpentry to accommodate the mess.
Polar
>Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
>the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
>soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
>them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
>or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
>know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
Listen to the folks who advise against smooth soles!
I live in a milder climate, so I use clogs that are easy to slip off.
Visiting friends in colder/rainier climates, and you get muddy, I have
seen gizmos outside the door with brushes/scrapers built in. I don't
now what theyre called, but am sure there is a Web source for them
(isn't there a Web source for everything but Salvation? <VBG>).
--
Polar
Oliver B. Lafferty
>the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
>soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
>them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
>or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
>know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
>Frank
>middle Georgia
I'm waiting to see if anyone comes up with a source for you. Around
here, I can't even get a pair of work shoes without padding all over,
and those big vibram cleats. Used to be I could walk into Southern
States and get 9½EE that were just plain leather to just above the
ankles. No more. Now style is everything is style, like everyone
wants to look like a sports figure? Can't even order mail order
anymore.
simy1
I carefully weigh my options. Which causes the most pain? My wife's
yelling or me taking off those winter boots time and again? Do I have
enough dirt to soil just the laundry room (acceptable within limits)
or will it track onto the hardwood (unacceptable under any
circumstances)? Do I really really have to go to the bathroom right
now? Can I tough it out until the last transplant goes into the
flowerbed? If the wife is away, will I be able to mop the hardwood
before she makes it home? If it is close, can I just go in on my hands
and knees without my boots touching the floor? Has she been in a good
mood lately?
Mostly, I try to make sure I have everything before starting. If I
have a repair job I try not to go in the dirt until the repair is
done, so I can enter the house freely looking for that extra tool. I
try to do my dirty jobs all in one sequence.
At any rate, in every one of those airline catalogs there are, for
sale, very large slippers which you can put on, boots and all, when
you enter the house. See if they have their catalog on the web, and
for 19.95 plus shipping, they will send you a pair of huge slippers
that probably cost 0.95 to make, but that will solve your rapid
entry/exit problems.
d
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.asp?page=10273&category=2%2C40713&SID=&
ccurrency=1
I checked that it works if you copy and paste it into the address space
Dan
Janet & Hugh
Well said to both of you! After having a 6 month old baby come down with
salmonella poisoning that was traced back to shoes in the house I say the
shoes go... No Matter What! There is no acceptable reason for wearing shoes
in my house. :o)
Janet
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Larry Caldwell
deja.com writes:
> I carefully weigh my options. Which causes the most pain? My wife's
> yelling or me taking off those winter boots time and again?
Here's a hint: buy boots with hooks, not eyes. You don't even have to
untie them, just slip the laces out of the hooks and step out of them.
When you go outside, just step into the boots, slip the laces back into
the hooks, and you are good to go. It's easier than getting in and out
of a pair of street shoes.
Dean Hoffman
"Frank" <gn...@accucomm.net> wrote:
You might look at work boots or shoes from Red Wing or Wolverine. A
Google search would get lots of sources. Cowboy boots (Justin, Acme) have
smooth soles and are comfortable if sized correctly. Have you been to the
local farm supply stores? I was looking through the local Walmart one day.
They sold the same stuff you're talking about. The soles looked like they
were made by Goodyear or Goodrich.
I took a quick look at http://www.tractorsupplyco.com
They had several boots there with no picture of the sole. Possibly that
meant it was a smooth soled boot. Orshelns is another farm supply chain in
my area.
Another option would be to tell the house boss that the dirt on your feet
puts the clothes on her back. You wouldn't need to worry about a dirty
floor or carpet then.
Dean
The Rock Garden
> Does anyone
> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
Right off the top of my head I'm fairly sure Cabela's, Miller Stockman and
Wing Supply all carry cowboy boots, Wellingtons, and engineer boots, all of
which are pull-on and have smooth soles. If you have a local farm supply
store (or even a regular shoe store) you should be able to find shallow
tread rubber boots that fit over your regular foot wear. Then all you would
have to do is take them off before entering the house, and you'll still have
your regular shoes on and clean for inside the house.
If you do find traction a problem with the smooth soles you might try to
find something with crepe soles. I used to use them for bird hunting on the
scree rock Snake River breaks and they were life savers. They don't wear
well with heavy use though.
All of the above outlets have on line stores - if you can't find them, drop
me a line, I have them in my bookmarks...
Skip
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THE ROCK GARDEN
Newport, WA
http://www.povn.com/rock/
JMartin
rubber ones. He just hoses them off. Easy enough, but I don't like
them. I tend to be clumsy and I like having that heavy leather boot
around my feet.
Mine go off and on at the door as many people have said. It works for
the house. My biggest problem is all the...um...."mud" (read that
mostly manure) that gets drug into my truck.
Jena
John Gilmer
<m...@my.com> wrote in message
news:ddq01vofes9n4rne5...@4ax.com...
> I know your problem all too well....
> Just a comment though. Smooth soles could be deadly on ice and snow.
> About ten years ago I lived in the city and just wanted to drive to
> the convenience store 2 blocks away. Instead of all the winter
> attire, I just slipped on a pair of sandals that I normally wear in
> summer. They had smooth soles. Walking around my car, I hit a patch
> of ice, fell, and broke my ankle in 3 places. That was a big mistake
> and a hard way to learn a lesson. I'd rather clean up the mud in the
> house than spend 1 month in bed, 3 months in a cast, and lose my
> salary for over 4 months (being self employed at the time).
Well, I usually wear loafers all the time. Even when I mow the grass or am
taking a chain saw to trees, I still just wear the loafers.
I just don't get into DEEP mud but if it get into a small mess I just take
them off outside and clean them (often by dipping them in a bucket of water)
at my leisure.
The thin soles on my loafers make me quite sure footed on ice so that
presents no problem.
Were I to routinely require getting into DEEP mud I would invest in a pair
of rubber boots that I could slip into easily.
>
> Something to think about !!!!!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:32:51 -0500, Frank <gn...@accucomm.net> wrote:
>
Jan Flora
> Lynn Coffelt wrote:
>
> > (rural doesn't have to mean dirty)
>
>
> Well said!
>
> AL
>
For quick in and out and in of the house chores, get a pair of LL Bean
slip on boots. (Cabela's sells similar boots.)
I have 6 pairs of work boots and *still* use a pair of slip-on's that I got at
the flea market for $2.50 all the time.
The fastest way to get thrown out of a house in Alaska is to come stomping in
with mud or snow on your boots and walk around in the house. Anyone who's
too lazy to take their funky boots off can damned well go home and never come
back.
Jan
Setzler
them as the little English things that Alice played croquet with as the ball
that I can't remember the name, too. THey work well, to scrape off mud and muck.
susan
Robert Free
and an integrated heel so I don't collect mud in the instep part of the
sole. While they are great for the mud that we enjoy most of the year in my
N.W. Washington area they are not to be worn in ice or snow as they provide
no traction whatsoever.
Marvin
"Oliver B. Lafferty" <asketum...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e10a745...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> Frank,
> I'm waiting to see if anyone comes up with a source for you. Around
> here, I can't even get a pair of work shoes without padding all over,
> and those big vibram cleats. Used to be I could walk into Southern
> States and get 9½EE that were just plain leather to just above the
> ankles. No more. Now style is everything is style, like everyone
> wants to look like a sports figure? Can't even order mail order
> anymore.
Plain leather shoes were still being made somewhere as of last spring
when I retired from the Dept. of Corrections. The state issue shoes for
inmates were the old fashioned, unpadded leather I think you're talking
about, but I never paid any attention to the soles. The men in my
classes tended to wear their own Nikes, etc. If the plain shoes are
Corrections Industry items (made in a prison somewhere), they're not
available to the public.
That padding annoys me. After a few hours in a pair of shoes with
padded tops I begin to feel almost claustrophobic. I hate to have
ragged linings, but I have to get that stuff out of there in order to
stand wearing the shoes.
Marvin
Genevieve Tharp
several days every time I go outside when it's muddy ... most tennis shoes
do the same too. It can be helpful to get a box of the disposable shoe
covers like hospitals use for isolation and surgery ... they are really
sturdy and will last thru a number of uses.
Genevieve in Mississippi
wray
preferably tiled floor with a drain to facillitate cleaning.
mine has a small shower.
wray
Nick Hull
> > yelling or me taking off those winter boots time and again?
I use a different solution; 3 wheels. When I have to go thru deep mud to
feed the cows I ride my 3-wheeler all the way inside the barn and park at
the bottom of the stairs to the hayloft. I get very little mud on my
shoes but a lot on the 3-wheelers treads. The next day the 3-wheeler
deposits all that mud on the road within about 100' of where I start.
3-wheelers seem to work in mud better than 4-wheelers; they have fatter
tires that float better and sink in less, and the powered wheels never
have to follow in another wheels mess.
What little mud I have on my shoes usually comes off walking on the grass
between my parking space and the porch.
--
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http://www.geocities.com/nickhull99
Nick Hull
Fookaiser" <lo...@pbs.tv> wrote:
> Generally for short trips outside, to get firewood or throw out
> garbage or whatever, we use slip-on rubber boots that cost
> around $15 a pair most anywhere. They come off when we
> go inside. Not much tread on them but mud still sticks.
Then there is the Dutch solution; wooden shoes. Mud does not stick to
wooden shoes (the tulip beds are muddy) and the wooden shoes come off & on
easily.
Setzler
susan
bob
news:MPG.187a28ff2...@news.earthlink.net:
> In article <1ve01vssfoi4mbd58...@4ax.com>,
> gn...@accucomm.net writes:
>
>> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
>> the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
>> soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
>> them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
>> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
>> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
>
> That's why God created mud rooms.
I wish he'd create one of those for my house! Our house has two doors, one
into the carpeted living room, and one into the narrow space in the
kitchen, between the dishwasher and the 1 foot deep pantry. No place to
store shoes.
Bob
Zone 7
(Close enough to Georgia to have their clay)
Frogleg
wrote:
>Larry Caldwell <lar...@teleport.com> wrote
>
>> In article <1ve01vssfoi4mbd58...@4ax.com>,
>> gn...@accucomm.net writes:
>>
>>> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
>>> the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
>>> soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
>>> them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
>>> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
>>> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
>>
>> That's why God created mud rooms.
>
>I wish he'd create one of those for my house! Our house has two doors, one
>into the carpeted living room, and one into the narrow space in the
>kitchen, between the dishwasher and the 1 foot deep pantry. No place to
>store shoes.
No porch? No steps? Put a box outdoors. Attach a plastic bag to a
nailed-up clothespin. Or learn to vacuum/mop the floor every time you
come inside.
bob
news:3e15a6bd...@news.earthlink.net:
A front porch has been at the top of my "to do" list since we moved in.
Unfortunately (for me) it has not reached similar status on my wife's
list. Making matters worse (for me), her tolerance for mud and dirt is
higer than her tolerance for shoes in the kitchen.
A box outdoors. The dogs would like that :-0
I think we might actually get to do the porch this summer.
Bob
Zone 7
Dianna Visek
bags made me wonder. What if one slipped plastic bags over one's feet
and tied them on with rubber bands before going inside? I have to
potty often enough that a solution to this problem would be a real
help! (We already have covered porches.)
Regards, Dianna
_______________________________________________
To reply, please remove "fluff" from my address.
Larry Caldwell
jwx1.deleteThis@bellsouthnet writes:
> A front porch has been at the top of my "to do" list since we moved in.
> Unfortunately (for me) it has not reached similar status on my wife's
> list. Making matters worse (for me), her tolerance for mud and dirt is
> higer than her tolerance for shoes in the kitchen.
>
> A box outdoors. The dogs would like that :-0
>
> I think we might actually get to do the porch this summer.
Porches are about a 2 weekend project. You pour the concrete the first
weekend, and put up the roof the second weekend. Just lay a 1x on the
existing roof along the line of the intersection, frame your valley
rafters on top of it, run an old skilsaw blade down the valley to cut the
old roofing, separate the roofing with a flat bar, slip the new roofing
under it and glue the old roofing down with black jack roofing adhesive.
Frogleg
wrote:
(Somebody wrote and the thread has become tangled)
>>>>> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go
>>>>> in the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on
>>>>> the soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't
>>>>> clean them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
>>>>> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does
>>>>> anyone know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth
>>>>> sole?
>>>>
>>>> That's why God created mud rooms.
>>>
>>>I wish he'd create one of those for my house! Our house has two doors,
>>>one into the carpeted living room, and one into the narrow space in
>>>the kitchen, between the dishwasher and the 1 foot deep pantry. No
>>>place to store shoes.
>>
>> No porch? No steps? Put a box outdoors. Attach a plastic bag to a
>> nailed-up clothespin. Or learn to vacuum/mop the floor every time you
>> come inside.
>>
>
>A front porch has been at the top of my "to do" list since we moved in.
>Unfortunately (for me) it has not reached similar status on my wife's
>list. Making matters worse (for me), her tolerance for mud and dirt is
>higer than her tolerance for shoes in the kitchen.
>
>A box outdoors. The dogs would like that :-0
>
>I think we might actually get to do the porch this summer.
Teach the dogs to clean the boots. :-) Depends on your priorities. If
it's easier for someone to mop the floor than find a place to put
outdoor boots/shoes, then by all means wear them indoors. With no
mudroom/porch I believe I would invest in a large indoor doormat and a
box or shelf near the door to place footwear.
The OP asked about Magical Mud-vanishing footware. I'm unaware of any.
I'm trying to think "outside the porch" where several pair of *my*
weather-resistant shoes reside, incl. plastic garden clogs.
Jan Flora
(Dianna Visek) wrote:
> Reading the trailing end of this thread and the mention of plastic
> bags made me wonder. What if one slipped plastic bags over one's feet
> and tied them on with rubber bands before going inside? I have to
> potty often enough that a solution to this problem would be a real
> help! (We already have covered porches.)
>
> Regards, Dianna
That or build an outhouse, if you're out in the country where you can
get away with it.
My SO laughs every fall when I clean the old outhouse out. (Which
just means sweeping the leaves and spider webs out.) But when the
power goes out for days on end, he's glad that I do.
Clogs are wonderful for working in the yard and bouncing in and
out of the house. They really *are* comfortable, if you've never
tried them.
Jan
bob
news:3e18840e....@news.earthlink.net:
If it were only *my* priorities at issue there wouldn't be any problem.
;-)
It's trying to balance my wife's priorities with mine where I start to
have problems....
Bob
AL
>
> In article <3e1606b...@news.shout.net>, divise...@yahoo.com
> (Dianna Visek) wrote:
>
> > Reading the trailing end of this thread and the mention of plastic
> > bags made me wonder. What if one slipped plastic bags over one's feet
> > and tied them on with rubber bands before going inside? I have to
> > potty often enough that a solution to this problem would be a real
> > help! (We already have covered porches.)
> >
> > Regards, Dianna
>
> That or build an outhouse, if you're out in the country where you can
> get away with it.
>
> Jan
AWRIGHT!!! The outhouse thread again - the good ones just keep goin'
'round don't they?
AL
Frogleg
wrote: (I think)
>>>A front porch has been at the top of my "to do" list since we moved
>>>in. Unfortunately (for me) it has not reached similar status on my
>>>wife's list. Making matters worse (for me), her tolerance for mud and
>>>dirt is higer than her tolerance for shoes in the kitchen.
This is a logical puzzle. She's OK with mud, but not shoes, in the
kitchen? Come in the front door with muddy shoes and wear them 'til
you get to the kitchen. No. That doesn't work either. Come in the
front door, track mud to a room with a sink where you can rinse off
shoes, then.... Nope. That doesn't compute. If she doesn't like shoes
in the kitchen, but has no objection to mud elsewhere, take off your
shoes anywhere before you go into the kitchen. Ahhh. *That* works.
Somehow, I don't think this is the problem. Please clarify. Not that I
can help. I'm just curious.
bob
@news.earthlink.net:
You missed the part where I explained that the front door opens into the
kitchen. It only takes one step. If my shoes are really muddy and the
weather is ok, then I will take my shoes off outside, but if she's gone
in ahead of me, then I have to walk through her mud in my socks.
Now if it's raining and I take off my shoes before I enter the kitchen,
that means I'm standing outside in my socks.
I don't know if it's a logic puzzle or a logic problem ;-)
Bob
Jan Flora
The new Modern Farm catalog came today. They have these cute little
slippers that you slip your muddy boots into, so you can walk into
the house without risking an early demise. They're made out of
carpet. (!) They're $14.50 a pair and come in a whole bunch of sizes.
They're made by a cottage industry in Cody, WY.
Go look. http://www.modfarm.com
Once you get on the mailing list with this outfit, it's for life. They
sell all sorts of strange and handy little gidgits for country people.
Jan
Frogleg
wrote:
Well, now you've introduced a new problem -- *her* mud. Definitely
seems like a case for some 'boot station' inside but immediately by
the door. *Some* mud seems unavoidable -- keeping it localized is the
most I can do without a hefty retainer. :-) Don't follow her
immediately into the house. Wait 'til she's inside and bootless. Then
quickly de-boot and store.
Your original query was for non-mudding footware, of which I don't
think there is/are any. Wellies, Wellington boots, are smooth outside,
but mud is pretty pervasive. I suggest you move that porch project up
on your list of priorities. :-)
Offbreed
Galoshes aren't made any more?
Dean Hoffman
snowshoe-080...@241-pm4.hom.alaska.net, "Jan Flora"
<snow...@xyz.net> wrote:
"Cute little slippers"?? Not only no, but hell no. MEN don't buy "cute
little". The only "cute little" that gets our attention comes with bumps
and curves. Bonus points awarded for a finely tuned sense of humor and a
ready smile. :-}
Dean
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bob
news:3e1dcbb7...@news.earthlink.net:
>>> Somehow, I don't think this is the problem. Please clarify. Not that
>>> I can help. I'm just curious.
>>>
>>
>>You missed the part where I explained that the front door opens into
>>the kitchen. It only takes one step. If my shoes are really muddy and
>>the weather is ok, then I will take my shoes off outside, but if she's
>>gone in ahead of me, then I have to walk through her mud in my socks.
>>
>>Now if it's raining and I take off my shoes before I enter the
>>kitchen, that means I'm standing outside in my socks.
>>
>>I don't know if it's a logic puzzle or a logic problem ;-)
>
> Well, now you've introduced a new problem -- *her* mud. Definitely
> seems like a case for some 'boot station' inside but immediately by
> the door. *Some* mud seems unavoidable -- keeping it localized is the
> most I can do without a hefty retainer. :-) Don't follow her
> immediately into the house. Wait 'til she's inside and bootless. Then
> quickly de-boot and store.
>
> Your original query was for non-mudding footware, of which I don't
> think there is/are any. Wellies, Wellington boots, are smooth outside,
> but mud is pretty pervasive. I suggest you move that porch project up
> on your list of priorities. :-)
Actually, it was someone else's question. I got started when someone
mentioned that god invented mud rooms, and I wished he'd invent one for
me.
A covered porch has been at the top of my list since we bought the
house. I think she's finally coming around. Or maybe we've just been
working down through her list ;-)
Anyway. A de-booting station is a great idea, but there's just no space.
The door is between the dishwasher and the pantry. There is about 6
inches of extra space. Just past the pantry is the fridge.
Lame ASCII art:
___ ________
|R ++++++++|
--- |
P DW+++++++++|
-- ------------
P=pantry, R=fridge, DW=dishwasher. The open space at the bottom of the
drawing is the entry door. The + marks are the cabinets, sink, stove,
etc.
It is really a lame layout, and my least favorite feature of the house.
We intend to move the kitchen and build a proper entry in the space.
It's so much easier to make decisions about the house when there is only
one decision maker involved!!!
Bob
Zone 7
Frogleg
wrote:
>A covered porch has been at the top of my list since we bought the
>house. I think she's finally coming around. Or maybe we've just been
>working down through her list ;-)
>
>Anyway. A de-booting station is a great idea, but there's just no space.
>The door is between the dishwasher and the pantry. There is about 6
>inches of extra space. Just past the pantry is the fridge.
>
>Lame ASCII art:
>___ ________
>|R ++++++++|
>--- |
>P DW+++++++++|
>-- ------------
>
>P=pantry, R=fridge, DW=dishwasher. The open space at the bottom of the
>drawing is the entry door. The + marks are the cabinets, sink, stove,
>etc.
Can you just put a cardboard or wooden produce box on top of the
dishwasher for an interim solution?
Also, get some other eyes & brains involved. I spent a couple of years
moving little cutouts around a scale drawing of my kitchen. Then a
bright contractor took a look and said, "well, we can move that door
and block that other one, and..." and pretty soon I had 3 times as
much counter and cabinet space. It had simply never occurred to me to
alter the *basic* layout, yet the changes weren't really very radical
-- just the result of a new brain on the job.
>
>It is really a lame layout, and my least favorite feature of the house.
>We intend to move the kitchen and build a proper entry in the space.
But meanwhile...
>
>It's so much easier to make decisions about the house when there is only
>one decision maker involved!!!
But think of the brainpower of more than one! Maybe she'll reject a
design that has just one central overhead light, that leaves the cook
at the counter always working in his/her own shadow!
But we gotta do something about that mud. :-)
>
>Bob
>Zone 7
>
bob
news:3e20651b...@news.earthlink.net:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:29:26 GMT, bob <jwx1.deleteThis@bellsouthnet>
> wrote:
>
>>A covered porch has been at the top of my list since we bought the
>>house. I think she's finally coming around. Or maybe we've just been
>>working down through her list ;-)
>>
>>Anyway. A de-booting station is a great idea, but there's just no
>>space. The door is between the dishwasher and the pantry. There is
>>about 6 inches of extra space. Just past the pantry is the fridge.
>>
>>Lame ASCII art:
>>___ ________
>>|R ++++++++|
>>--- |
>>P DW+++++++++|
>>-- ------------
>>
>>P=pantry, R=fridge, DW=dishwasher. The open space at the bottom of the
>>drawing is the entry door. The + marks are the cabinets, sink, stove,
>>etc.
>
> Can you just put a cardboard or wooden produce box on top of the
> dishwasher for an interim solution?
That violates the "shoes in the kitchen" thing.
>
> Also, get some other eyes & brains involved. I spent a couple of years
> moving little cutouts around a scale drawing of my kitchen. Then a
> bright contractor took a look and said, "well, we can move that door
> and block that other one, and..." and pretty soon I had 3 times as
> much counter and cabinet space. It had simply never occurred to me to
> alter the *basic* layout, yet the changes weren't really very radical
> -- just the result of a new brain on the job.
That's good advice. When we bought our house, the kitchen counters were
a big U shape. The backs of the cabinets were completely useless, as
were the back corners of the counter tops. I cut out the trough of the U
to make 2 parallel counters. The result was about 30% more floor space,
and 25% more (usable) cabinet/counter.
It took us a couple years to redesign our bathroom, with some help from
my boss (who studied architecture in school). The results were pretty
good. Or at least they will be when we finish the finishing touches. The
key with contractors is the "bright" part. Not all of them are.
>>It is really a lame layout, and my least favorite feature of the
>>house. We intend to move the kitchen and build a proper entry in the
>>space.
>
> But meanwhile...
>>
>>It's so much easier to make decisions about the house when there is
>>only one decision maker involved!!!
>
> But think of the brainpower of more than one! Maybe she'll reject a
> design that has just one central overhead light, that leaves the cook
> at the counter always working in his/her own shadow!
That's another change I made in the kitchen early on! moving the light
from the center of the room to above the sink. Combined with the lights
in the range hood, there is plenty of light, and you can see everywhere.
>
> But we gotta do something about that mud. :-)
Thanks! Just talking about it makes me feel like something is getting
done. Almost. I think we'll take a short break from construction as soon
as the bathroom is complete, and then the entry / kitchen is next.
Bob
Bob
there with a "sandblaster" nozzle used as a high power air blaster. A quick
sweep over the sides and bottom of each boot cleans virtually all the mud
off before I walk up the deck. It takes about 5-10 seconds.
Bob
"Frogleg" <nob...@nevermind.com> wrote in message
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DH
on. Then you can walk around the house, muddy shoes and all. Not cute and
little at all, so no problem there! <g>
Hunting through the small mountain of catalogues blocking my front door, I
found a copy of the catalogue. The product is advertised thusly:
"You CAN wear your muddy boots into the house! Just slip a pair of
Shufflers over muddy footwear and go inside to answer the phone, get a
snack, or take a break. Shufflers contain the mud and moisture, and you
won't spend tiime unlacing and relacing. Heavy-duty polyester. Washable."
Product number is 4909, website is www.plowhearth.com
>
stucke...@gmail.com
> Sure all of you have this problem...work shoes. Everytime you go in
> the house soil, etc. which is jammed up between the cleats on the
> soles falls out on floor. Simply wiping your feet on mat won't clean
> them. Either you have to remove shoes everytime you go in
> or the house floor stays full of trackings from outside. Does anyone
> know of a source of work shoes or low boots with a smooth sole?
> middle Georgia
> My correct e-mail address is gn052 (not gn52)
> Fake adddress given to avoid spams
I need some too. I'm a carpenter and its not feasible to pull off your boots everytime you go in and out when you are working in and around someones house. Shoe manufacturers are out of touch with just what working folks needs are, most people don't go to work every day "cliff climbing."
Chris Schram
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