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david fraleigh

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Jan 1, 2004, 7:31:01 AM1/1/04
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I was just wondering about when preparing an unused cabin for winter
temperatures whether the toilet bowl should be plunged dry or does the
shape of the bowl allow the ice to expand upwards without damaging
it... What about the toilet tank? Also I was just looking at the
exposed underside of the cabin the other day and noticed all these two
inch traps in the drain lines which undoubtedly contain water... I
guess that my question is what efforts do people go to to protect
plumbing (other than drain the water supply lines) when unoccupied
houses are exposed to very cold temps.

The_Pittmans

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Jan 1, 2004, 8:10:15 AM1/1/04
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david fraleigh <d...@afn.org> wrote in message
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Up here in Maine I have heard that happen to toilets, but never seen it.

Patty


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Jim Elbrecht

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Jan 1, 2004, 8:31:11 AM1/1/04
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Asnwer to subject line-
"Yes- even with an unbelievably small amount of water"

On 1 Jan 2004 04:31:01 -0800, d...@afn.org (david fraleigh) wrote:

>I was just wondering about when preparing an unused cabin for winter
>temperatures whether the toilet bowl should be plunged dry or does the

Plunging dry is probably impossible. Get some antifreeze from a
camping supply place. Divide the gallon up between all your drains
and the toilet.

-snip-


>guess that my question is what efforts do people go to to protect
>plumbing (other than drain the water supply lines) when unoccupied
>houses are exposed to very cold temps.

I'd bet that most exert too little effort one year and become lifelong
believers in the power of expanding ice there-after.

Jim

the q

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Jan 1, 2004, 1:40:51 PM1/1/04
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"david fraleigh" <d...@afn.org> wrote in message
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yes it does, and surprisingly little ice to do it too, our outside loo
cracked last winter even though there is a very small radiator (run from the
house system) in there!

The Q


Bill Vajk

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Jan 1, 2004, 2:19:25 PM1/1/04
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the q wrote:

Add antifreeze to unused toilets, and make sure the water
is securely shut off to it. I drain the tank and add
antifreeze there too.


Tralrdr

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Jan 1, 2004, 2:29:07 PM1/1/04
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>
>>>I was just wondering about when preparing an unused cabin for winter
>>>temperatures whether the toilet bowl should be plunged dry or does the
>>>shape of the bowl allow the ice to expand upwards without damagin

Yes the toilet will crack, we suck up excess water with a wet/dry vac and put
anti freeze down the p traps. Its also a good idea to leave the lid down once
you have done this. I have opened the house up in the spring only to have to
sieve out a woodrat or two from the stool, not a pleasant experience.
ick
carrie n miller

slee...@webtv.net

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Jan 1, 2004, 6:38:07 PM1/1/04
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It never gets cold enough here in NE Texas to freeze water in the
commode even in our usually unheated bathroom. But we don't cool our
bathroom in the summer either and I can still remember the year when I
heard a funny noise coming from in there one very hot day. Went in to
check it out and the water was boiling in the toilet bowel!
Ronny

Bill Vajk

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Jan 1, 2004, 8:16:21 PM1/1/04
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Tom Quackenbush wrote:

> Your toilet bowl reached 212 deg. F.? And you were in a position to
> observe it?

> Are you sure it wasn't air or sewer gas bubbling up?

LOL

It is quite obviously one of those "Texas" things. You
know, bigger, hotter, better..........

slee...@webtv.net

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Jan 2, 2004, 1:37:37 AM1/2/04
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Group: misc.rural Date: Thu, Jan 1, 2004, 8:00pm (CST+1) From:
tqua...@kingcon.com (Tom Quackenbush)
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 17:38:07 -0600 (CST), slee...@webtv.net wrote:
It never gets cold enough here in NE Texas to freeze water in the
commode even in our usually unheated bathroom. But we don't cool our
bathroom in the summer either and I can still remember the year when I
heard a funny noise coming from in there one very hot day. Went in to
check it out and the water was boiling in the toilet bowel! Ronny

Tom said:
      Your toilet bowl reached 212 deg. F.? And you were in
a position to observe it?
      Are you sure it wasn't air or sewer gas bubbling up?

R,
Tom Q.

Ronny says:
On no! It was so hot that day the water in the commode was boiling some
from the heat. Not a fast boil mind you,'cause it wasn't THAT hot;but
just a good simmering boil. Honest.
Ronny

slee...@webtv.net

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Jan 2, 2004, 1:43:30 AM1/2/04
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Group: misc.rural Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2004, 1:16am (CST+6) From:
bill9...@hotmail.DITCHTHIS.com (Bill Vajk)
Tom Quackenbush wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 17:38:07 -0600 (CST), slee...@webtv.net wrote:
It never gets cold enough here in NE Texas to freeze water in the
commode even in our usually unheated bathroom. But we don't cool our
bathroom in the summer either and I can still remember the year when I
heard a funny noise coming from in there one very hot day. Went in to
check it out and the water was boiling in the toilet bowel! Ronny

Tom said:
      Your toilet bowl reached 212 deg. F.? And you were in
a position to observe it?
        Are you sure it wasn't air or sewer gas bubbling
up?

Bill said:
LOL
It is quite obviously one of those "Texas" things. You know, bigger,
hotter, better..........

Ronny says:
Well,them thar Northern Yankees got the cold part all to themself to
brag about,so us poor Texans gotta make do with what we have! Heat! LoL
Ronny

Tralrdr

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Jan 2, 2004, 12:48:56 PM1/2/04
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>Janet Baraclough ..

>
> Oh look, another example of two nations divided by a common language.
>In the UK, the only stool to be found in the toilet bowl is human
>faeces...hope that's not what you had to sieve the woodrats out of :~o
>
> Janet
>


No, the "stool" I mentioned is actually the toilet bowl! We use "stool" in
themanner you describe also...but don't you all ever sit on a stool? As in
"Pull up that stool from over there and set a spell...."
heh
Carrie N Miller

Matthew Beasley

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Jan 2, 2004, 6:25:59 PM1/2/04
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<slee...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Was it the heat from the sun, or was it the Texas chilli from the last
use that was boiling the water?

;)

slee...@webtv.net

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:34:41 PM1/2/04
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Group: misc.rural Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2004, 5:52pm (CST+6) From:
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Tom Quackenbush wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 17:38:07 -0600 (CST), slee...@webtv.net wrote:
It never gets cold enough here in NE Texas to freeze water in the
commode even in our usually unheated bathroom. But we don't cool our
bathroom in the summer either and I can still remember the year when I
heard a funny noise coming from in there one very hot day. Went in to
check it out and the water was boiling in the toilet bowel! Ronny

      Your toilet bowl reached 212 deg. F.? And you were in


a position to observe it?
        Are you sure it wasn't air or sewer gas bubbling
up?

LOL

It is quite obviously one of those "Texas" things. You know, bigger,
hotter, better..........

    Texans must be really cool, or his blood would have boiled
too.
    Janet.

Ronny says:
The main time I really get hot is when someone wakes me up before I get
my nap finished! LoL

slee...@webtv.net

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:38:40 PM1/2/04
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Group: misc.rural Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2004, 11:25pm (CST+6) From:
beas...@teleport.com (Matthew Beasley)
<slee...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13575-3FF...@storefull-2271.public.lawson.webtv.net...
It never gets cold enough here in NE Texas to freeze water in the
commode even in our usually unheated bathroom. But we don't cool our
bathroom in the summer either and I can still remember the year when I
heard a funny noise coming from in there one very hot day. Went in to
check it out and the water was boiling in the toilet bowel! Ronny

Matthew said:
Was it the heat from the sun, or was it the Texas chilli from the last
use that was boiling the water?
;)

Ronny says:
Well now,I can see how the whole thing could of been caused by some of
that Texas 4-alarm chili! LoL

Bob Yates

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Jan 3, 2004, 1:16:53 AM1/3/04
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Cracked large chunks out in the Ozarks, two different bowls. Praise be
to Governor Clinton for the blackouts and defective power grid.

John Jacob

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Jan 21, 2004, 10:04:42 PM1/21/04
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We always put a small amount of anti-freeze in the toilet after having
one crack near the internal trap. You don't neen much. Just enough to
prevent a hard freeze. I seem to remember pushing most of the water down
first with a plunger. Leaving only a small amount in there.
John (remembering the summer house on the water)
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