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sms

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Oct 1, 2021, 9:53:10 AM10/1/21
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On Android devices, when a mapping program (Google Maps or Waze) gives
audible directions, any audio content that's playing is paused.

We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.

Is there some setting in iTunes that works to pause iTunes audio when
another app, like Apple Maps, Google Maps or Waze, is speaking
directions? In Apple Maps there is an option to "Pause Spoken Audio,"
but this doesn't work when your audio books are loaded as MP3 files into
iTunes, and apparently there is no way to transfer audio books that you
rip to MP3 files as anything except songs and albums in iTunes.

I ended up using my Android phone for navigation and the iPhone for the
audio books. I had not loaded the audio books onto my Android device or
I would have done it the other way around.

nospam

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Oct 1, 2021, 11:06:09 AM10/1/21
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In article <sj73s4$cbm$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
> tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
> when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
> doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.

itunes runs on a computer, not the phone, and you've previously said
you do not use itunes.

presumably you mean the music app on the iphone.

a better choice would be an app designed specifically for audio books.

> Is there some setting in iTunes that works to pause iTunes audio when
> another app, like Apple Maps, Google Maps or Waze, is speaking
> directions? In Apple Maps there is an option to "Pause Spoken Audio,"

that is the correct option.

> but this doesn't work when your audio books are loaded as MP3 files into
> iTunes, and apparently there is no way to transfer audio books that you
> rip to MP3 files as anything except songs and albums in iTunes.

audiobooks are .m4b.

if you're using mp3 for some reason, you will need to set the media
kind to audio book.

> I ended up using my Android phone for navigation and the iPhone for the
> audio books. I had not loaded the audio books onto my Android device or
> I would have done it the other way around.

in another post, you said you used apple maps for most of the trip.

you really need to work on the consistency part of your stories.

In article <sj7277$upp$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> I was using Apple Maps on a trip to New England that we just returned
> from and I wanted to put in a route from Burlington Vermont to Logan
> Airport in Boston, with a stop at a specific location in Vermont. I
> could not figure out how to do this. With Google Maps or Waze when you
> add a stop you immediately see how much extra distance and time it will
> involve, it's different than just creating two separate trips.
>
> For local trips, in towns, I found Apple Maps to be superior to Google
> Maps or Waze, since instead of just saying a street name, it also tells
> you to turn at an upcoming traffic light or stop sign, and it prepares
> you, by telling you in advance which stop sign or light to turn at. In a
> city where you don't know the streets, and the street signs are often
> hard to see or non-existent, Apple Maps was great.

Joerg Lorenz

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Oct 1, 2021, 1:30:21 PM10/1/21
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Am 01.10.21 um 17:06 schrieb nospam:
> In article <sj73s4$cbm$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
>> tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
>> when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
>> doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.
>
> itunes runs on a computer, not the phone, and you've previously said
> you do not use itunes.
>
> presumably you mean the music app on the iphone.
>
> a better choice would be an app designed specifically for audio books.
>
>> Is there some setting in iTunes that works to pause iTunes audio when
>> another app, like Apple Maps, Google Maps or Waze, is speaking
>> directions? In Apple Maps there is an option to "Pause Spoken Audio,"
>
> that is the correct option.

As usual sms is confused on a slightly elevated level.

>> but this doesn't work when your audio books are loaded as MP3 files into
>> iTunes, and apparently there is no way to transfer audio books that you
>> rip to MP3 files as anything except songs and albums in iTunes.
>
> audiobooks are .m4b.
>
> if you're using mp3 for some reason, you will need to set the media
> kind to audio book.
>
>> I ended up using my Android phone for navigation and the iPhone for the
>> audio books. I had not loaded the audio books onto my Android device or
>> I would have done it the other way around.
>
> in another post, you said you used apple maps for most of the trip.
>
> you really need to work on the consistency part of your stories.
>

Consistency is really the keyword.
When I read the posting my first thought was "my goodness, how
complicated is this guy?"
And he does a lot of things he does not really master anymmore. My fear
is he becomes an unguided missile on the road. And I was up there in
Vermont a couple of times ...

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De gustibus non est disputandum

nospam

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Oct 1, 2021, 1:59:09 PM10/1/21
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In article <sj7gjc$jvd$1...@dont-email.me>, Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch>
wrote:

> >> We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
> >> tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
> >> when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
> >> doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.
> >
> > itunes runs on a computer, not the phone, and you've previously said
> > you do not use itunes.
> >
> > presumably you mean the music app on the iphone.
> >
> > a better choice would be an app designed specifically for audio books.
> >
> >> Is there some setting in iTunes that works to pause iTunes audio when
> >> another app, like Apple Maps, Google Maps or Waze, is speaking
> >> directions? In Apple Maps there is an option to "Pause Spoken Audio,"
> >
> > that is the correct option.
>
> As usual sms is confused on a slightly elevated level.

much, much more than slightly.

and it's deliberate.



> >> I ended up using my Android phone for navigation and the iPhone for the
> >> audio books. I had not loaded the audio books onto my Android device or
> >> I would have done it the other way around.
> >
> > in another post, you said you used apple maps for most of the trip.
> >
> > you really need to work on the consistency part of your stories.
> >
>
> Consistency is really the keyword.
> When I read the posting my first thought was "my goodness, how
> complicated is this guy?"
> And he does a lot of things he does not really master anymmore. My fear
> is he becomes an unguided missile on the road. And I was up there in
> Vermont a couple of times ...

he makes up stories to troll.

Lewis

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Oct 1, 2021, 2:07:04 PM10/1/21
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In message <011020211106087870%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sj73s4$cbm$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>> We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
>> tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
>> when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
>> doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.

> itunes runs on a computer, not the phone, and you've previously said
> you do not use itunes.

> presumably you mean the music app on the iphone.

> a better choice would be an app designed specifically for audio books.

iTunes/Music is definitely the wrong choice, but i find podcast apps to be the
best for playing any spoken content, whether podcasts, radio dramas, or
audiobooks.

In fact, I have created several RSS feeds on my server to feed Overcast
my collection of audiobooks. I even have an automated workflow that
watches my download folder for audible files, strips the DRM from them,
creates an xml item block for the book and saves it into 'bookname.xml",
and uploads both the xml and audio to my server.

Then I manually add the item block into the feed.xml file, updated some
information, add a description blurb, and save. voila, my audiobook is
in Overcast.


--
The voice of the majority is no proof of justice.

nospam

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Oct 1, 2021, 2:23:44 PM10/1/21
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In article <slrnsleji6....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> > In article <sj73s4$cbm$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> > <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> We listen to Audiobooks on long road trips and this was the first time I
> >> tried loading the MP3s of the audio book onto iTunes. But in iTunes,
> >> when a mapping app provides audible instructions, the iTunes content
> >> doesn't pause and we end up missing part of the story.
>
> > itunes runs on a computer, not the phone, and you've previously said
> > you do not use itunes.
>
> > presumably you mean the music app on the iphone.
>
> > a better choice would be an app designed specifically for audio books.
>
> iTunes/Music is definitely the wrong choice,

which explains why he chose it.

> but i find podcast apps to be the
> best for playing any spoken content, whether podcasts, radio dramas, or
> audiobooks.

there are numerous options.

one major benefit is being able to play back at faster speeds, a
feature that is not overly important for music.

Wilf

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Oct 1, 2021, 3:06:23 PM10/1/21
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As far as I'm aware, if you are using Waze on an iPhone, if you have the
Waze option 'pause spoken audio' set, then it will pause such apps
during announcements. But I may be wrong.

--
Wilf

Lewis

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Oct 1, 2021, 10:25:11 PM10/1/21
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And with an RSS feed of audiobooks, I can use and podcast player app I
want. One of the kids uses Downcast, for example.


--
I get the feeling that some people's idea of heaven is an "I told you
so" T-shirt - mmalc

Connor Shannon

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Oct 2, 2021, 8:43:00 PM10/2/21
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I wonder what he means too. When I play music on my iPhone over my car radio the map pgm mutes the music to say directions. I mostly use Google Maps but I'm sure it worked with Apple Maps too.


nospam

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Oct 2, 2021, 8:52:28 PM10/2/21
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In article <0e0a6015-f785-4a66...@googlegroups.com>,
he claims to be listening to audio books and wants it to pause so that
he doesn't miss any part of the story, rather than mute, which is
appropriate for music.

the problem is that he encoded his audio books as songs rather than
audio books and blames everyone except himself for his mistake. it's
very easy to fix, except he's not interested in that. it's just another
one of his stories.

Connor Shannon

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Oct 3, 2021, 5:29:39 PM10/3/21
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Oh I see, pause not mute. Didn't know that about pausing audio books. Will have to try it sometime.

sms

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Oct 3, 2021, 7:06:48 PM10/3/21
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On 10/3/2021 2:29 PM, Connor Shannon wrote:

<snip>

> Oh I see, pause not mute. Didn't know that about pausing audio books. Will have to try it sometime.

There is a way to do this in iTunes as explained at
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/how-to-convert-audiobooks-for-use-in-itunes/>.

Had I known that iTunes could not pause content during GPS navigation
prompts, and had I known about this rather complex procedure, I would
have done it. I was used to playing tracks on Android devices which can
pause audio content during navigation prompts.

An easier way than what is outlined in the article above is to first rip
the book to MP3 files then use Converterlite to convert MP3 files to M4B
files since you don't want to go in and manually rename every M4A file
to an M4B file; a long book can easily have 1000 tracks.

Since few new cars have CD players, if you have audiobooks on CDs you
have to rip them to some format that can be used by iTunes, and m4b is
the one to use but I don't know of any free audio ripper that rips
direct to m4b. You can buy a program that does m4b ripping or do it in
two steps.

It's a lot easier on Android where there are other audio players that
work fine with audiobooks in MP3 format, and pause the content when a
navigation program is speaking.

It would be nice if iTunes would add a setting option where you could
choose what it should do when navigation prompts occur, regardless of
the type of audio file, i.e. mute the audio, lower the audio volume and
talk over it, or pause the audio during the navigation prompt.

nospam

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Oct 3, 2021, 7:29:53 PM10/3/21
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In article <sjdd27$rom$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> > Oh I see, pause not mute. Didn't know that about pausing audio books. Will
> > have to try it sometime.
>
> There is a way to do this in iTunes as explained at
>
> <https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/how-to-convert-audiobooks-for-use-in-itun
> es/>.

that's *ten* *years* *old*.

> Had I known that iTunes could not pause content during GPS navigation
> prompts,

itunes isn't what's used to play back audio on the phone. that's
another one of your problems.

> and had I known about this rather complex procedure, I would
> have done it.

you clearly did not understand anything in the link.

> I was used to playing tracks on Android devices which can
> pause audio content during navigation prompts.

so does the iphone.

your problem is you have absolutely no idea what you're doing and then
blame apple for your own incompetence, and also because you're a troll.

> An easier way than what is outlined in the article above is to first rip
> the book to MP3 files then use Converterlite to convert MP3 files to M4B
> files since you don't want to go in and manually rename every M4A file
> to an M4B file; a long book can easily have 1000 tracks.

nope, that's not easier.

*your* link describes an easier method.

> Since few new cars have CD players, if you have audiobooks on CDs you
> have to rip them to some format that can be used by iTunes, and m4b is
> the one to use but I don't know of any free audio ripper that rips
> direct to m4b. You can buy a program that does m4b ripping or do it in
> two steps.

itunes can encode to m4b, although that's not required.

you obviously didn't understand your own link, which is further
evidence of trolling.

> It's a lot easier on Android where there are other audio players that
> work fine with audiobooks in MP3 format, and pause the content when a
> navigation program is speaking.

there are numerous audiobook players on ios too.

yet another example of your cluelessness and trolling.

> It would be nice if iTunes would add a setting option where you could
> choose what it should do when navigation prompts occur, regardless of
> the type of audio file, i.e. mute the audio, lower the audio volume and
> talk over it, or pause the audio during the navigation prompt.

no, because music and audiobooks require *different* responses.

music should be muted and audiobooks should usually be paused, although
not always, which is why there's a setting to toggle it.

android is actually more limited.

Lewis

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Oct 3, 2021, 10:40:05 PM10/3/21
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In message <sjdd27$rom$1...@dont-email.me> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 10/3/2021 2:29 PM, Connor Shannon wrote:

> <snip>

>> Oh I see, pause not mute. Didn't know that about pausing audio books. Will have to try it sometime.

> There is a way to do this in iTunes as explained at
> <https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/how-to-convert-audiobooks-for-use-in-itunes/>.

> Had I known that iTunes could not pause content during GPS navigation

What GPS navigation? No device that supports iTunes has GPS.

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slip through your fingers.

nospam

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Oct 3, 2021, 10:58:41 PM10/3/21
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In article <slrnslkqc3....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> > Had I known that iTunes could not pause content during GPS navigation
>
> What GPS navigation? No device that supports iTunes has GPS.

he thinks the music app on the iphone is called itunes.

Lewis

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Oct 4, 2021, 3:22:24 AM10/4/21
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He thinks a lot of really stupid things.


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Connor Shannon

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Oct 4, 2021, 1:39:46 PM10/4/21
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On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 4:29:53 PM UTC-7, nospam wrote:
>
> *your* link describes an easier method.

Yeah that one where you just change the Info window sounds a lot easier!


> music should be muted and audiobooks should usually be paused, although
> not always, which is why there's a setting to toggle it.

Sorry I got a little lost in this thread where is that setting please?

nospam

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Oct 4, 2021, 2:00:57 PM10/4/21
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In article <bf77a46e-175d-4e9b...@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > *your* link describes an easier method.
>
> Yeah that one where you just change the Info window sounds a lot easier!

yep.

> > music should be muted and audiobooks should usually be paused, although
> > not always, which is why there's a setting to toggle it.
>
> Sorry I got a little lost in this thread where is that setting please?

settings>maps>navigation & guidance

set the pause spoken audio toggle to on or off, as preferred.

Robin Goodfellow

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Oct 4, 2021, 2:31:57 PM10/4/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
> he claims to be listening to audio books and wants it to pause so that
> he doesn't miss any part of the story, rather than mute, which is
> appropriate for music.
>
> the problem is that he encoded his audio books as songs rather than
> audio books and blames everyone except himself for his mistake. it's
> very easy to fix, except he's not interested in that. it's just another
> one of his stories.

If nospam's assessment of the facts above is true (and I have no reason to
doubt nospam's assessment), then this is further evidence of nospam being
_different_ (well above) the normal IQ level of the rest of the apologists.

Jolly Roger would never be able to make such an assessment, nor would Lewis.
Heaven forbid Alan Baker or Joerg Lorenz or Alan Browne could understand.

This ability to assess facts by nospam towers above that of the rest of the
apologists, whom I study in depth as I've never met such strange people.

What's clear is nospam's assessment of Apple products is always _only_ from
the point of view of Apple (aka "you're doing it wrong") and _never_ from
the point of view of the customer (Heaven forbid the customer wants to do it
his way).

Yet again, of all the apologists, nospam is the least ignorant.

Robin Goodfellow

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Oct 4, 2021, 2:34:07 PM10/4/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
> since you don't want to go in and manually rename every M4A file
> to an M4B file; a long book can easily have 1000 tracks.

I can easily tie my iOS device to my desktop to use the iOS device as a USB
stick where the entire visible file system is accessible to commands.

From there, it's simple to globally search & replace file names, is it not?

Robin Goodfellow

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Oct 4, 2021, 2:39:38 PM10/4/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
> music should be muted and audiobooks should usually be paused, although
> not always, which is why there's a setting to toggle it.

I study these strange apologists, particularly Jolly Roger, Lewis, Alan
Browne, and nospam, where of the dozen or so well known apologists, nospam
is the _least ignorant_ (and hence, not suitable for filtering as we all do
with Alan Baker or Snit or Rod Speed, et. al).

In fact, nospam's above assessment of the known facts is succinctly astute.

> android is actually more limited.

Unfortunately the apologists comments about Android are almost always (if
not always) based on their ignorance of what Android can do, so I would take
this cite-free assessment by nospam as not being reliable in the least.

*What nospam does on Android is always take _only_ Apple's advertised view.*

Which, as far as I've been able to ascertain, is always dead wrong.

nospam

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Oct 4, 2021, 2:44:05 PM10/4/21
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In article <sjfhp9$bf$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> Unfortunately my comments about Apple are almost always (if
> not always) based on my ignorance of what Apple can do, so I would take
> this cite-free assessment by myself as not being reliable in the least.

ftfy

sms

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:16:16 PM10/4/21
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On 10/4/2021 11:32 AM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked

<snip>

> Yet again, of all the apologists, nospam is the least ignorant.

Yet once again he is wrong.

I encoded the audio books as mp3 files using the genre of Audiobook so
they are all tagged as audiobooks. You would think that iTunes would
look at the genre when you're importing mp3 files and encode them as m4b
files instead of m4a files, before syncing with the iPhone, but that is
not how it works.

There is no option for either m4a or m4b in the Audio CD ripping program
I used (though there are some paid programs that have this capability).
But in any case I wouldn't want to rip to m4a or m4b directly anyway
since I do want the mp3 files to make data CDs and to have mp3 files for
Android devices.

When I used iTunes to transfer the mp3 files from the computer to the
iPhone I tried to put them into the iTunes audiobooks folder but that is
not possible unless the files are first converted to m4b files.

Once you convert the mp3 files to m4b files then iTunes allows you to
put them into Audiobooks under Genres, instead of importing as songs.

If iTunes would just allow the importation of mp3 files into the
Audiobooks genre, and convert them to m4b files, it would be very
useful. I understand that Apple tried to make things easier by
automatically putting m4a files into music and m4b files into
audiobooks, but also allowing the user to specify where in iTunes the
files should be imported, and then transferring to the Music app on the
iphone as m4b files, it would be nice.

The other thing that iTunes could do is to have as setting that lets the
user choose how to handle pausing versus muting regardless of the file type.

sms

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:29:07 PM10/4/21
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<snip>

I also have a Google Docs document that details how to convert
audiobooks on Audio CDs into digital files that can be either burned to
a data CD (you can put around 40 audio CDs onto a single data CD and
most newer vehicles can play data CDs) or transferred to an Android or
iOS device.

It's not that hard to do, but it isn't as easy as you might think
either, and using batch files makes it much easier.

<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sAtZAr0FgQajMW40g3SNKG5yNne5I49-sntS-tQnncc/>

Connor Shannon

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:42:15 PM10/4/21
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Thank you I found it. It was already turned on. :) So I'm all set.

nospam

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:45:58 PM10/4/21
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In article <sjfnee$656$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> Yet once again I am wrong.

ftfy

> I encoded the audio books as mp3 files using the genre of Audiobook so
> they are all tagged as audiobooks. You would think that iTunes would
> look at the genre when you're importing mp3 files and encode them as m4b
> files instead of m4a files, before syncing with the iPhone, but that is
> not how it works.

the genre tag can be anything and is often wrong, which is why it's
ignored.

the correct solution is to set the media kind to audio book, as
explained in the link *you* cited.

if you're going to cite links, you ought to consider reading them.

> There is no option for either m4a or m4b in the Audio CD ripping program
> I used (though there are some paid programs that have this capability).

itunes is free and they don't need to be m4b.

as usual, you're confused and trying to spin it into a troll attempt.

> But in any case I wouldn't want to rip to m4a or m4b directly anyway
> since I do want the mp3 files to make data CDs

data cds?? 1998 is calling you back.

> and to have mp3 files for
> Android devices.

the problem with audio books as mp3 is you lose functionality that is
supported in m4b, such as chapter markers, which is why apple uses it.

another benefit is that audio books resume exactly where you left off,
as expected, whereas mp3 songs will resume at the start of the song,
also as expected.





>
> The other thing that iTunes could do is to have as setting that lets the
> user choose how to handle pausing versus muting regardless of the file type.

there is absolutely no need to put that feature into itunes since
itunes isn't used for playback where auto-pausing would be needed.

there already is a toggle for pausing spoken content, which you claim
to have toggled. it's a surprise you even found it.

nospam

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:45:59 PM10/4/21
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In article <20b1f145-73e7-403e...@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Sorry I got a little lost in this thread where is that setting please?
> > settings>maps>navigation & guidance
> >
> > set the pause spoken audio toggle to on or off, as preferred.
>
> Thank you I found it. It was already turned on. :) So I'm all set.

i think that's the default.

News

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Oct 4, 2021, 4:49:46 PM10/4/21
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When playing as Bluetooth phone, toggling 'Pause spoken audio' cuts off
the first several words of the driving instructions which many time
renders the rest useless.

Robin Goodfellow

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Oct 4, 2021, 7:17:46 PM10/4/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
> Once you convert the mp3 files to m4b files then iTunes allows you to
> put them into Audiobooks under Genres, instead of importing as songs.

While I don't use the iTunes bloatware on my Windows 10 machines, it does
seem to "convert" mp3 to m4b according to this article anyway...
https://www.epubor.com/convert-mp3-to-audiobook.html

Nonetheless, what I do use when I need any file format are the main free
file converters, although, as always, it's better not to need to convert an
audio/video file in the first place due to potential size & quality changes.

However, when I need to convert, I just attach the iOS device to my Windows
machine and slide the files over to Windows to work on them, and then slide
the results back onto iOS (I've done this so many times that I wrote
tutorials for others to do it as easily as I do, as tricks are involved).

Once on Windows, you simply need to convert the file format as desired.
For Windows there are many good free file conversion utilities such as
audacity, avconv, avidemux, avisynth, ffmpeg, lame, handbrake, oxelon,
shotcut, super, totallyfreeconverter, virtualdub, etc. which are covered in
detail in both the Freeware and in the Windows ngs.

First I had to look up the basics of this m4b format, described here.
https://www.lifewire.com/m4b-file-2621958
which covers the topic of exactly what iTunes uses to pause audio.

Since I have audacity, handbrake, and shotcut already installed, I checked
for you whether they could convert MP3 to M4B.
a. The File->Export of Audacity has a few basic file formats,
for example, it has m4a but I didn't see m4b.
b. My Handbrake is only for video (not audio) conversions unfortunately.
c. The default export in Shotcut freeware creates an MP4 file.
Shotcut's Export icon adds a lot more choices where I saw an export
to dozens of codecs, including mpeg-2, mpeg-4, mjpeg, mpeg-4 part2 asp,
mpeg-4 part2 sp (but not specifically m4b).

A search showed other conversion utilities exist for Windows
https://www.epubor.com/convert-mp3-to-audiobook.html (uses iTunes)
https://videoconverter.iskysoft.com/convert-mp3/mp3-to-m4b-converter.html
https://videoconverter.wondershare.com/m4b/convert-mp3-to-m4b.html
https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/mp3-to-m4b.html
https://www.audio-transcoder.com/how-to-convert-mp3-files-to-m4b

sms

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Oct 4, 2021, 7:20:24 PM10/4/21
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On 10/4/2021 4:17 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
>> Once you convert the mp3 files to m4b files then iTunes allows you to
>> put them into Audiobooks under Genres, instead of importing as songs.
>
> While I don't use the iTunes bloatware on my Windows 10 machines, it does
> seem to "convert" mp3 to m4b according to this article anyway...
> https://www.epubor.com/convert-mp3-to-audiobook.html

Good information, thanks.

Robin Goodfellow

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Oct 4, 2021, 7:23:35 PM10/4/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
> ftfy

Whenever you have no _adult_ response, you revert to a kindergarten child.

The fact remains you're very likely the least ignorant of the apologists.
Consider that a complement.

But you and Jolly Roger and Lewis and Alan Baker own the mind of a child.
Which you just prove me right on, yet again, with that childish 'ftfy'.

Lewis

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Oct 5, 2021, 9:02:54 AM10/5/21
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"Playing as Bluetooth ohone" sounds odd. Many cars only support BT for
phone audio, if you are hijacking that to play audio, then its going
to perform poorly.

If your car supports normal audio playback over BT and takes a long time
to switch from one audio to the other that is your car's issue.

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Brain, but don't you need a swimming pool to play Marco
Polo?"

News

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Oct 5, 2021, 10:42:35 AM10/5/21
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On 10/5/2021 9:02 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <sjfpd9$io3$1...@dont-email.me> News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
>> On 10/4/2021 4:45 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <20b1f145-73e7-403e...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Connor Shannon <cshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I got a little lost in this thread where is that setting please?
>>>>> settings>maps>navigation & guidance
>>>>>
>>>>> set the pause spoken audio toggle to on or off, as preferred.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you I found it. It was already turned on. :) So I'm all set.
>>>
>>> i think that's the default.
>>>
>
>
>> When playing as Bluetooth phone, toggling 'Pause spoken audio' cuts off
>> the first several words of the driving instructions which many time
>> renders the rest useless.
>
> "Playing as Bluetooth ohone" sounds odd. Many cars only support BT for
> phone audio, if you are hijacking that to play audio, then its going
> to perform poorly.
>
> If your car supports normal audio playback over BT and takes a long time
> to switch from one audio to the other that is your car's issue.
>

"Playing as Bluetooth phone" (literally) is a Waze audio output setting,
in which Waze audio emulates a telephone call from the device phone number.

Toyota Entune is the head unit software, which displays the incoming
(Bluetooth) calling number, and may be slow to actually pick up the
call, though the Waze audio should not begin to play at 'phone'
initiated 'ring', or at receiver incoming call indication, rather at the
receiver's (automated) pick up of the incoming call.

Lewis

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Oct 6, 2021, 11:56:44 PM10/6/21
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In message <sjho8q$o43$1...@dont-email.me> News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
> On 10/5/2021 9:02 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <sjfpd9$io3$1...@dont-email.me> News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
>>> On 10/4/2021 4:45 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <20b1f145-73e7-403e...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Connor Shannon <cshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I got a little lost in this thread where is that setting please?
>>>>>> settings>maps>navigation & guidance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set the pause spoken audio toggle to on or off, as preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you I found it. It was already turned on. :) So I'm all set.
>>>>
>>>> i think that's the default.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> When playing as Bluetooth phone, toggling 'Pause spoken audio' cuts off
>>> the first several words of the driving instructions which many time
>>> renders the rest useless.
>>
>> "Playing as Bluetooth ohone" sounds odd. Many cars only support BT for
>> phone audio, if you are hijacking that to play audio, then its going
>> to perform poorly.
>>
>> If your car supports normal audio playback over BT and takes a long time
>> to switch from one audio to the other that is your car's issue.
>>

> "Playing as Bluetooth phone" (literally) is a Waze audio output setting,
> in which Waze audio emulates a telephone call from the device phone number.

So your phone is not connected to your cars audio, but only to your
phones phone handling? That seems like a poorly implemented terrible
idea, and I would blame the car because car integration with phones is
generally terrible and switching to a phone call is not normally
something they do instantly.

Try using a normal audio connection to your car and not a "I'm a phone,
really" hack.

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"Whuh... I think so, Brain. But this time I get to play the
dishwasher repairman!"
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