What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?

[Ant]

Hello!

What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
MacBook locally?

Here's the scenario: Someone has hundreds of photos on her iPhone 6+
(iOS v11.4.1). She wants to copy them to someone else's MacBook Pro
(MBP)'s Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app to save. What's the best way to
sync them locally (not online on the Internet) quickly and smoothly
without messing up her iPhone and MBP's datas, synchronizations, etc.

I hope to get an answer before she departs. Thank you for reading and
hopefully answering.
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[nospam]

In article <VMadnYopbIyIUgvG...@earthlink.com>, Ant

<ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?

airdrop, and they can all be sent in one batch too.

[sms]

On 9/10/2018 1:07 PM, Ant wrote:
> Hello!
>
> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?
>
> Here's the scenario: Someone has hundreds of photos on her iPhone 6+
> (iOS v11.4.1). She wants to copy them to someone else's MacBook Pro
> (MBP)'s Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app to save. What's the best way to
> sync them locally (not online on the Internet) quickly and smoothly
> without messing up her iPhone and MBP's datas, synchronizations, etc.
>
> I hope to get an answer before she departs. Thank you for reading and

You might try this: <https://www.easeus.com/phone-transfer/>

[nospam]

In article <pn6m0l$ed7$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> > What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> > MacBook locally?
> >

> > I hope to get an answer before she departs. Thank you for reading and
>
> You might try this: <https://www.eas

that's chinese spamware which exists under numerous names.

[Lewis]

No.

Plug in phone,. Authorize it to talk to the Mac. use Image Capture to
copy all the photos from the phone to the Mac.

Airdrop also works, but Iamge Capture is much faster and you can easily
select all.

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The facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.

[Arlen Holder]

On 10 Sep 2018 13:07:49 GMT, Ant wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?

On Linux (e.g., Ubuntu 18.04), you would just plug the iDevice by USB into
the native Linux computer, and that alone would automatically create a
mount point that is both read and write for not only the DCIM directory,
but plenty of other directories on the iDevice.

How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/z_KXY4IHLe0/OaFqueaaCAAJ>

*Why wouldn't USB work perfectly on the Mac just like it does with Ubuntu?*

[nospam]

In article <pn7h68$od3$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> *Why wouldn't USB work perfectly on the Mac just like it does with Ubuntu?*

it does, and actually easier.

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Sep 2018 05:38:53 GMT, nospam wrote:

>> *Why wouldn't USB work perfectly on the Mac just like it does with Ubuntu?*
>
> it does, and actually easier.

Then that would make sense, but then, why is the OP asking the question if
it's so easy?

Remember, on Ubuntu, you just plug it in and it just works.
Read and write.

[nospam]

In article <pn8oce$k6e$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> >> *Why wouldn't USB work perfectly on the Mac just like it does with Ubuntu?*
> >
> > it does, and actually easier.
>
> Then that would make sense, but then, why is the OP asking the question if
> it's so easy?

because he was unaware of the options available.

> Remember, on Ubuntu, you just plug it in and it just works.
> Read and write.

same on mac, with or without a usb cable, the latter of which ubuntu
cannot do.

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Sep 2018 09:13:56 GMT, nospam wrote:

> because he was unaware of the options available.

Ant,
When you plug in the USB cable to the Mac, sans any iTunes abomination or
any software not normally installed with the typical Mac installation
process, does the entire visible file system of the iOS device mount read
and write so that you can simply slide files back and forth?

If not, then nospam is a liar.

Just let us know because nospam has zero credibility.
He just makes everything up.

He's wrong more than is the monkey (that's how bad his guesses are).

Hence nothing he ever says can be trusted.

Ant - when you simply plug in the device by USB, does the entire visible
file system mount as read/write in the Mac file explorer like it does in
Ubuntu?

[nospam]

In article <pn9bdb$gol$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> When you plug in the USB cable to the Mac, sans any iTunes abomination or
> any software not normally installed with the typical Mac installation
> process, does the entire visible file system of the iOS device mount read
> and write so that you can simply slide files back and forth?

there is no need to see the entire visible file system just to transfer
photos, nor is that even desirable at all.

plug in a usb cable use *any* photo management software the user
normally uses, including apple photos or image capture, both included
with macos, as well as adobe lightroom and many others.

or skip the cable and air drop it. much easier.

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Sep 2018 16:34:17 GMT, nospam wrote:

> there is no need to see the entire visible file system just to transfer
> photos, nor is that even desirable at all.

In other words, you lied.
Again.

> plug in a usb cable use *any* photo management software the user
> normally uses, including apple photos or image capture, both included
> with macos, as well as adobe lightroom and many others.

In other words, you lied.
Again.

> or skip the cable and air drop it. much easier.

In other words, you lied.
Again.

Everything you said wasn't to help Ant - it was to lie - so that your
imaginary belief system wouldn't take the hit from actual facts.

Fact is, on Ubuntu, you simply plug the iDevice in, and the entire visible
file system is mounted read/write so you can just slide files back and
forth using the native Ubuntu file manager.

Fact is, the Mac does not do that, and you lied when you said it did.
Your credibility is shit, nospam.

That you care not a whit about your lack of credibility is telling.
It proves you don't act like an adult.
You're a child, nospam.

*All you _can_ do, nospam, is play your silly games.*

Everything you said wasn't to help Ant - it was to lie - so that your
imaginary belief system wouldn't take the hit from actual facts.

[nospam]

In article <pn9udr$hua$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> Fact is, on Ubuntu, you simply plug the iDevice in, and the entire visible
> file system is mounted read/write so you can just slide files back and
> forth using the native Ubuntu file manager.
>
> Fact is, the Mac does not do that, and you lied when you said it did.

a mac definitely does that, and with less effort.

it can even be set to automatically copy the photos when connected.

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Sep 2018 19:47:45 GMT, nospam wrote:

> a mac definitely does that, and with less effort.
>
> it can even be set to automatically copy the photos when connected.

Everything you said wasn't to help Ant - it was to lie - so that your
imaginary belief system wouldn't take the hit from actual facts.

All you _can_ do, nospam, is play your silly childish games.

[nospam]

In article <pn9vfd$jkj$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Everything you said wasn't to help Ant

it was until you butted in.

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Sep 2018 20:00:54 GMT, nospam wrote:

>> Everything you said wasn't to help Ant
>
> it was until you butted in.

You lied nospam.

Ant can't do what you said he could do.

You lied, as you always lie.

Your credibility is shit, nospam.

You don't even care that your guesses are worse than the monkeys.

Let's ask Ant if he was successful, shall we?

*Ant ... have you been successful yet?*

[Arlen Holder]

On 10 Sep 2018 13:07:49 GMT, Ant wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?

Hi Ant,
Can you summarize your results to date?
Thanks!

[Ant]

AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.

[nospam]

In article <SeGdnfEoKrbEBwfG...@earthlink.com>, Ant

<ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> > > What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> > > MacBook locally?
>
> > Hi Ant,
> > Can you summarize your results to date?
> > Thanks!
>
> AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.

select all and airdrop it in a single step.

[Arlen Holder]

On 13 Sep 2018 11:07:27 GMT, nospam wrote:

> select all and airdrop it in a single step.

Hi Ant,

Facts.

Check this test out I just documented for you moments ago.
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8918650usb01.jpg>

I slid over 4 GB in a single swipe (14 movies) from my Windows system disk
to the iOS 11.2.6 iPad over USB in just a couple seconds over two minutes.
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8157466usb02.jpg>

Read & write. No Apple ID required. No iTunes abomination either.
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2107706usb03.jpg>

Please let us know how long it takes AirDrop to do the same task.

[Ant]

Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:
> Arlen Holder <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
> > On 10 Sep 2018 13:07:49 GMT, Ant wrote:

> > > What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> > > MacBook locally?

> > Hi Ant,
> > Can you summarize your results to date?
> > Thanks!

> AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.

Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
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fight with cranes;... Our life is frittered away by detail. Simplify...
simplify..." --Henry Thoreau

[nospam]

In article <FrqdnX2jf74ePAPG...@earthlink.com>, Ant

<ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

>
> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
>
> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(

that's odd. try smaller batches.

or, connect it via usb and use your choice of photos, image capture,
lightroom or other photo management app.

[Ant]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <FrqdnX2jf74ePAPG...@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> >
> > > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> > > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
> >
> > Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
> > after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
> > powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(

> that's odd. try smaller batches.

Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot.
I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

[Arlen Holder]

On 16 Sep 2018 11:37:33 GMT, nospam wrote:

> that's odd. try smaller batches.

Hehhehheh ...

>
> or, connect it via usb and use your choice of photos, image capture,
> lightroom or other photo management app.

Hehhehhehhhe...

[Arlen Holder]

On 16 Sep 2018 14:48:03 GMT, Ant wrote:

>>> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
>>> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
>>>
>>> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
>>> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
>>> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
>
>> that's odd. try smaller batches.
>
> Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot.
> I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

Hi Ant,
While nospam constantly bullshits, I have done everything I talk about.
*HINT: Almost nobody on this planet can run the six tests I just ran!*

They *pretend* they can - but each time they post, they prove they can't!

So that we can learn, I just ran six quick speed tests for you to compare.
Even though I'm on a very old desktop (from Win7 days), it is so easy.

Using the iOS iPad or Android device timer app as a stopwatch...
1. On Windows, I copied a photo 400 times, named ant001.jpg to ant400.jpg
Each photo = 4,287,961 bytes Entire directory = 1.7 GB
2. I slid those 400 files over USB from that Windows filesystem to Android
Time = 18 minutes, 21 seconds
x. I slid those 400 files over USB from that Windows filesystem to iOS
Time = 1 minute, 42 seconds
3. I slid those 400 files over USB from Android to the Windows filesystem
Time = 2 minutes, 20 seconds
x. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to the Windows filesystem
Time = 1 minute, 55 seconds
5. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to Android
Time = 11 minutes, 49 seconds
4. I slid those 400 files over USB from Android to iOS
Time = 3 minutes, 5 seconds

Almost nobody on the planet can run these tests I just ran for you.
HINT: They *imagine* they can run them - but when they post, it's easy to
see from what they post that they fall into the DK scale of assessing their
own skills wrong.

They *can't* run these six tests!
(They don't know how.)

But since nospam assures you the best way is AirDrop, then just test it.

Let us know how long AirDrop takes to run the same easy 6 tests on the Mac.

--
I'll post the screenshots separately as that takes more time than anything.

[Arlen Holder]

On 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

> But since nospam assures you the best way is AirDrop, then just test it.
>
> Let us know how long AirDrop takes to run the same easy 6 tests on the Mac.

Bear in mind that all the iOS tests were to and from the DCIM directory of
iOS (which almost nobody knows how to make writeable, it seems).

They whoosh on the key points of the inherent beauty of this method.

There was no "middleman" app, like those that nospam advocates.

The six tests were so simple, people like nospam can't imagine it being
that easy.

I just selected the 400 photos, and slid them over.
- Either I slid them from Windows or Android file systems to iOS DCIM.
- Or I slid them from the iOS DCIM folder to Android or Windows filesystem.

It was _that_ easy to do all six test.

HINT: Editing the screenshots will be harder than moving files.
Yet, almost nobody on this planet can run those six tests.
Why? Because they _think_ they understand the steps - but they don't.

I can tell they don't by what they write (e.g., read anything Diesel said,
for example, which proves he doesn't comprehend the steps - but he "thinks"
he comprehends them - which - you have to admit - is kind of funny because
he claims everyone knows them... hehhehheh .. and yet ... he doesn't).

[Paul]

Arlen Holder wrote:

>
> Almost nobody on the planet can run these tests I just ran for you.

Can you explain to me, Mr. Raging Troll, why a
thread that was running quite nicely in

misc.phone.mobile.iphone

is now crossposted to

alt.os.linux
alt.comp.os.windows-10
misc.phone.mobile.iphone
comp.sys.mac.system
comp.sys.mac.apps
comp.mobile.android

Are you looking for an AUK nomination or what ?

Trim the crossposts!!!

Paul

[Arlen Holder]

On 16 Sep 2018 21:34:18 GMT, Paul wrote:

> Trim the crossposts!!!

OK. Done.

[Dan Purgert]

Paul wrote:
> Arlen Holder wrote:
>
>>
>> Almost nobody on the planet can run these tests I just ran for you.
>

> Can you explain to me [...]

Be prepared for a dissertation that rivals War and Peace.

(Good luck Paul and other misc.phone.mobile.iphone posters. I won't see
any replies, as I'm not part of the group)



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[Arlen Holder]

On 17 Sep 2018 11:42:36 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote:

> Be prepared for a dissertation that rivals War and Peace.

OK.

[Arlen Holder]

On 16 Sep 2018 14:48:03 GMT, Ant wrote:

>>> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
>>> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
>>>
>>> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
>>> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
>>> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
>
>> that's odd. try smaller batches.
>
> Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot.
> I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

Hi Ant,
Any status yet on your success?

I was easily able to move 400 pictures from the Windows filesystem over to
the iOS DCIM directory in 1 minute, 42 seconds as described in this thread
that has no iOS children on it, so everyone was helpful and technical.
Do these USB transfer times on Ubuntu 18.04 to mobile devices make sense to you?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/OxKbsbzWtQw>

It was so easy that for you to bother with the AirDrop asphyxiation seems
like one of those ridiculous Orwellian solutions that nospam loves to
propose which are not only highly restricted, but which are so limited in
the real world that they don't work outside the walled garden.

The solution I propose took less than 2 minutes for 1.7GB of files and is
as easy as select and copy using the desktop native file explorer.

It takes longer to type this up than to move the files.

[Arlen Holder]

On 10 Sep 2018 13:07:49 GMT, Ant wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?

Since the MacBook is essentially Linux, it should b e able to copy 400
photo files in less than two minutes using the native Mac file explorer.

Just select all the files and drag them over, either way, either from the
MacBook onto the iOS device, or vice versa.

I don't have a MacBook, but here's the steps I used to copy 400 files to
the iOS DCIM directory from a Windows 10 filesystem.

Plug in any number of iOS & Android devices to your desktop:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9261136speedt001.jpg>

On Windows I created 400 copies of a test file using Irfanview:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6748333speedt002.jpg>

Each of the 400 files was 4,188KB (1.7GB in toto):
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3783685speedt003.jpg>

The Android and iOS file systems easily mount on the desktop:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6176902speedt004.jpg>

The trick that nobody knows is how to WRITE to the iOS filesystem!
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7155870speedt005.jpg>

Once you know the trick, you just create any folder where you want:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2335527speedt006.jpg>

In this case, I created a folder in the normally read-only DCIM folder:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8602708speedt007.jpg>

In one fell swoop, I used the desktop to copy files from Android to iOS:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9242923speedt008.jpg>

I could just as well have copied the other way around:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2204403speedt009.jpg>

Or, from either Android and iOS to or from the Windows filesystem:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3283618speedt010.jpg>

That's the sheer beauty and elegance of this brilliant solution:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181611speedt011.jpg>

Moving the 400 files from Android to iOS took 3 minutes 5 seconds:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7049277speedt012.jpg>

[nospam]

In article <pnslj5$alj$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux,

it isn't

> it should b e able to copy 400
> photo files in less than two minutes

it can

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux,
>
> it isn't
>
>> it should b e able to copy 400
>> photo files in less than two minutes
>
> it can

1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
shit.

You can't prove a single statement you make.
Meanwhile, _all_ mine are valid verified facts.

Think about that.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

I proved I copied 400 files from *any* mobile device (I don't even have to
own it) to any other file system (whether that be Android, Windows, iOS, or
Linux).

For what Ant was doing, from iOS to the desktop file system, it took
- 1 minute, 55 seconds

In two minutes, I did what Ant has been taking days (elapsed time) trying
to do following your classic wild goose chases.

And yet you claim it can be done - all the while you can't do it.
Classic Apple Apologist bullshit nospam.

You have zero credibility.
You can't do 99% of what you _say_ you can do.

Meanwhile, I prove everything I say.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> x. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to the Windows filesystem
> Time = 1 minute, 55 seconds

If anyone has a *faster* system (my equipment is ancient and it's still
faster than anything you can actually *do* and prove you did), let me know.

1 minute 55 seconds from the Windows file system to iOS' DCIM folders:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

If anyone has a more *universal* system (it works with iOS, Android,
Windows, and Linux file systems, no matter who owns them and no matter the
"ID") system, let me know.

If someone has a more *free* system in addition (there is zero software
added to the native operating systems), let me know.

If someone has a *simpler* system (you just select and slide) let me know.

If you can't come up with a faster, freeer, simpler, and more universal
system, and yet, if you claim that the method is "obvious", then (a) you're
full of shit, and (b) let me know and I'll test your "better" system.

HINT: Everyone who said it was "obvious" already proved they can't do it.

Meanwhile, it takes two minutes for me to transfer 400 photos, where I can
easily transfer scores of Gigabytes of movie files as I did in the OP.

From anywhere to anywhere else. Sans a shred of additional software.

[Chris]

Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <pntomb$5hj$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

> <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:
>>
>>>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux,
>>>
>>> it isn't
>>>
>>>> it should b e able to copy 400
>>>> photo files in less than two minutes
>>>
>>> it can
>>
>> 1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>>
>> The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
>> shit.
>

> What's this wanker doing back here?
>

He fucked up and nym-shifted in the middle of thread. Something he claims
to never do...

[B...@onramp.net]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:14:11 -0000 (UTC), "Arlen H. Holder"
<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.

PLONK !

[543dsa]

"Tim Streater" <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote in message
news:190920181702046107%timst...@greenbee.net...
> In article <pntomb$5hj$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

> <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:39 -0400, nospam wrote:
>>
>>>> Since the MacBook is essentially Linux,
>>>
>>> it isn't
>>>
>>>> it should b e able to copy 400
>>>> photo files in less than two minutes
>>>
>>> it can
>>
>>1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>>
>>The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
>>shit.
>

> What's this wanker doing back here?

He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.

[Lewis]

In message <g0fjc5...@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-09-19, 543dsa <543...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Tim Streater" <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote in message
>> news:190920181702046107%timst...@greenbee.net...
>>>

>>> What's this wanker doing back here?
>>
>> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
>> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.

> He constantly nym switches too, for the same reason.
> He's a pathetic man-child. His momma must be so proud.

She's got him killfiled too.


--
Personal isn't the same as important

[Elden]

On 2018-09-19, Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> What's this wanker doing back here?

The dickhead changed his name again.

--
-=Elden=-

[Ant]

Arlen Holder <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2018 14:48:03 GMT, Ant wrote:

> >>> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> >>> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
> >>> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
> >>> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
> >
> >> that's odd. try smaller batches.
> >
> > Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot.
> > I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

> Hi Ant,
> Any status yet on your success?

No.

> I was easily able to move 400 pictures from the Windows filesystem over to
> the iOS DCIM directory in 1 minute, 42 seconds as described in this thread
> that has no iOS children on it, so everyone was helpful and technical.
> Do these USB transfer times on Ubuntu 18.04 to mobile devices make sense to you?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/OxKbsbzWtQw>

> It was so easy that for you to bother with the AirDrop asphyxiation seems
> like one of those ridiculous Orwellian solutions that nospam loves to
> propose which are not only highly restricted, but which are so limited in
> the real world that they don't work outside the walled garden.

> The solution I propose took less than 2 minutes for 1.7GB of files and is
> as easy as select and copy using the desktop native file explorer.

> It takes longer to type this up than to move the files.

I am only doing it under Mac OS since this is on someone else's MacBook
Pro. No Linux and Windows. I am going to upgrade iPhone to iOS v12 and
then retry this weekend. Also, an Apple developer wants me to get a
dump/log for this iOS crash.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:53:08 -0500, Ant wrote:

>> Hi Ant,
>> Any status yet on your success?
>
> No.

I'm sorry that the folks like nospam constantly send people like you who
ask a serious question, on wild goose chases.

If these people would just admit the truth, it would be so much less
frustrating for people like you and Wade Garrett (who was sent on a similar
wild goose chase by Jolly Roger and nospam until David Empson set them
straight).

It's sad because I've seen people like nospam and Jolly Roger do this
sadistic trick for decades - where I can't fathom what enjoyment they get
out of leading people astray.

If they spoke actual facts - this newsgroup would be a far better place.

> I am only doing it under Mac OS since this is on someone else's MacBook
> Pro. No Linux and Windows. I am going to upgrade iPhone to iOS v12 and
> then retry this weekend. Also, an Apple developer wants me to get a
> dump/log for this iOS crash.

I'm sorry you're running into iOS crashes.

If I recall, nospam flatly stated that the Mac OS could do what I proved
Ubuntu 18.04 easily does.

If nospam said that (we have to look back at the thread) and if he's
correct (he's almost always wrong), then you _should_ be able to do what I
did with Ubuntu on the Mac.

Maybe adding the Mac system people will help?

Surely there must be someone technical on the Mac side who can easily move
400 photos from any iOS device to any Mac just as I proved with Ubuntu.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:02:04 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

> What's this wanker doing back here?

Hi Tim Streater,

You probably think using "big words" like "wanker" makes you feel like a
"big kid", don't you?

The fact is that Ant, who is NOT an Apple Apologist, asked a question,
where I'm the only one who gave him an answer that was tested to actually
work. It worked in under two minutes.

Ant asked this question on 9/10, where I gave him a potentially workable
answer for Linux on 9/11, which I *tested* for Ant proving it works, at
least with Ubuntu.

Had I a Mac, I would have tested it with the Mac, where that's where YOU
can help Ant out.

Why don't you grow some balls (and brains) and test the solution out for
Ant?

HINT: You are too stupid ... all you _can_ do, is play fifth-grade games.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:03:20 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

> He fucked up and nym-shifted in the middle of thread. Something he claims
> to never do...

If an adult can't figure out my posts in ten seconds, then that adult is an
utter moron, Chris.

HINT: You're an utter moron, Chris.

I don't even have to prove that fact.
Every single time you post, Chris, you _prove_ you're an utter moron.

I only speak facts.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:53:39 +1000, 543dsa wrote:

> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.

This is hilarious that you think an iOS to Mac question doesn't belong on
the iOS and Mac groups.

You prove you're stupid in _every_ post!

Instead of complaining that an IOS to Mac question is cross posted to both
iOS and Mac groups, why don't you *help* the original poster, Ant?

HINT: You can't. You're too _stupid_ to actually help Ant.

I'm the _only_ one here trying to help Ant.

The rest of you prove you're clueless man children every time you post.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On 19 Sep 2018 18:37:57 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> He constantly nym switches too, for the same reason.
> He's a pathetic man-child. His momma must be so proud.

Hi Jolly Roger,

As you know, I _love_ when you post!

You are well known to be pretty dumb, as humans go, so it's with intense
interest that I read what little of adult value you have to say (along with
the other incomprehensibly stupid posters, Lewis, and BKatOnRamp).

The three of you are clearly average Apple users.
Hence, how your brain thinks is inordinately *interesting* to me.

It's always with mirth and enjoyment that I read what seemingly invaluable
input you have to help Ant on his problem interfacing iOS to the Mac.

HINT: Remember how you "helped" Wade Garrett by sending him on a wild goose
chase that stood zero chance in hell of ever working?

What's surprising about you man children, is that you don't exist on the
adult newsgroups (e.g., alt.os.linux).

You man children, Jolly Roger, can only survive on the Apple newsgroups.
Why Apple Apologists can only survive on Apple-only newsgroups!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ey9kv6ysVgA/jTmpI1ceEQAJ>

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:05:48 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

> She's got him killfiled too.

You must think that trite comment hilarious, Lewis.

What's funny is that you prove in every post that your mentality is stunted
at about the level of a fifth grader.

The main fifth graders on the iOS newssgroups are these three:
- Jolly Roger
- Lewis
- BKatOnRamp

On the Mac groups, I can think of only two canonical fifth graders:
- Alan Browne
- Tim Streater

There are likely more fifth graders, but those five stand out as
particularly childish.

HINT: Why don't any of you actually help the original poster, Ant?

Answer: You can't. You're all too stupid. All you can do is play games.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:09:48 -0500, Elden wrote:

> The dickhead changed his name again.

I don't know you Elden, so I can't put you on the incomprehensibly stupid
list of Mac posters (alongside Tim Streater and Alan Brown).

But, I can tell you that you just proved, by what you post, that you have
the stunted vocabulary of a fifth grader.

You actually likely _think_ that comment hilarious, I'll bet.
You may even consider yourself an utter genius for coming up with it.

I don't have to even mention that your post proves you're stupid, Elden.

Your own words prove it to all.

Why don't you _help_ the OP, Ant, with his iOS-to-Mac problem?
Answer: You're too _stupid_. All you _can_ do, is call people dickheads.

HINT: I'm the only one who gave Ant a tested solution. Not you.

[joe]

On 9/20/2018 1:38 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:53:39 +1000, 543dsa wrote:
>
>> He keeps adding crossposts because anyone with
>> even half a clue ignores his juvenile shit/trolling.
>
> This is hilarious that you think an iOS to Mac question doesn't belong on
> the iOS and Mac groups.
>
> You prove you're stupid in _every_ post!
>
> Instead of complaining that an IOS to Mac question is cross posted to both
> iOS and Mac groups, why don't you *help* the original poster, Ant?
>
> HINT: You can't. You're too _stupid_ to actually help Ant.
>
> I'm the _only_ one here trying to help Ant.

In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get
the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not
solve his problem.

Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and
wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the
phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will
need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the
phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported
to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.

That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this
is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?

You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone and in the
process provided no help to Ant. With respect to Ant's question,
everything from you is just noise.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:22:25 -0500, joe wrote:

> In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get
> the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not
> solve his problem.

This is an adult question, "joe", so I'll treat you as an adult.
I'm trying to be helpful to Ant in the ways that I can be helpful.

Certainly I can almost certainly do *far more with iOS cross platform than
*anyone* on this newsgroup - of that there is little doubt in my mind.

So what I say - counts - because I prove I can do what I say I do.
To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software.

Certainly there should NEVER be a need to log into an Apple "account".

You should have complete and total freedom with *any* iOS device to copy
any of the flies on the visible file system, where Ant doesn't appear to
own the iOS device nor the Mac, so it's apropos that you should have this
total freedom.

Bear in mind that my first post stated clearly that the Mac had a variant
of UNIX under the hood, and that Linux copies photos anywhere to or from
the iOS device with aplomb.

I even *proved* that it works with aplomb, which is something the Apple
Apologists _never_ do (since they are never trying to be helpful).

Then I suggested that, perhaps, since the Mac is similar, that it would
have similar functionality to that of Ubuntu with respect to interfacing
with iOS.

Immediately, nospam responded that not only did the Mac have the same
functionality, but that the functionality on the Mac was even better.

Here's that post by nospam, assuring us that the Mac could do what I did.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/LHlelTlzBAAJ>

Hence, my posts are fantastically helpful, since it shows Ant exactly what
to do, where nospam tells us all quite literally that the Mac can do what I
did, and even better.

> Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and
> wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the
> phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will
> need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the
> phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported
> to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.

That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
nospam said the Mac can do even better.

For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
to any portion of the iOS file system?

For another, perhaps more important since Ant might not need the power and
flexibility of my method (which nospam said the Mac can do, and better), if
the method is so easy, why is Ant still, after a dozen days, unsuccessful?

It only took me two minutes to copy 400 photos over USB from or to iOS.
Remember, nospam says the Mac can do it - and even better.

Why can't Ant get the Mac to do it?
You tell me.

> That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this
> is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?

I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.

While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
all long.

However, the point is that nospam clearly and emphatically stated that the
Mac can do what I did, and even better.

So if the Mac can do what I did (even better) then what I did is apropos.

> You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone

Whoa. I *never* strike first. Never. Never. Never.

If you actg like a child, I treat you like a child.
If you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.

I do that strategically (so you learn to act like an adult).
I do that tactically (with every response being a mirror of your intent).

The reason you only see insults is that you aren't comprehending this fact.

> and in the
> process provided no help to Ant.

As I said, my first response was that it's trivial to do what Ant is trying
to do, and I proved it was trivial (it takes two minutes, literally).

When I said that the Mac 'should' be able to do the same, nospam assured us
all that not only can the Mac do the same, but it can do it even better.

So if the Mac can't do it, then your beef isn't with me. It's with nospam.

> With respect to Ant's question,
> everything from you is just noise.

Facts:
1. Ant asked a question about interfacing iOS to Mac on 9/10
2. I provided a tested solution that works iOS to Ubuntu on 9/11
HINT: It took less than 2 minutes to perform the iOS to Linux copy!
3. The Apple Apologist nospam says on 9/11 the Mac can do that too
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/LHlelTlzBAAJ>
4. Multiple endless childish comments ensue by the Apple Apologists
5. As of today, 9/20, Ant is _still_ spectacularly unsuccessful

Only three people offered _any_ kind of potential solution for Ant:
- sms
- nospam
- me
Where my solution was tested, documented, and explained in full detail.

The thread has scores of posts by now, and Ant is still unsuccessful.
99% of those posts are childish garbage from the Apple Apologists.

Like yours is.
Which means my response to you is as worthless as was your post I'm
responding to.

Please, "joe", comprehend this simple fact:
a. If you are purposefully unhelpful, I will tell you so.
b. If you act like an adult, I will respond to you as an adult.

What you see from me is only the *second* half of the story.
You are blind to the facts, "joe". Blind.

Look. Look again. Look one more time.
Every post you see "insults" from me, is a *response*.

If you can't even see a blatant fact, then you're blind to facts joe.
Just because you're blind to facts, doesn't make facts not facts.

[nospam]

In article <po2r4n$hm$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
> trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software.

it is trivial, yet for some reason, you manage to turn it and
everything else into a giant clusterfuck.

> Certainly there should NEVER be a need to log into an Apple "account".

there isn't.

>
> > Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and
> > wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the
> > phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will
> > need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the
> > phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported
> > to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.
>
> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
> nospam said the Mac can do even better.

it's *much* easier than your method, and can even be set to auto-copy
if the user prefers.

> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
> to any portion of the iOS file system?

as you've been repeatedly told, itunes is not used to transfer anything.

> I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.

that's unfortunate.

perhaps someone should call child protective services, because you are
damaging their brains.

> While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
> I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
> all long.

only because you have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

[joe]

On 9/21/2018 8:19 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:22:25 -0500, joe wrote:
>
>> In what way are you helping Ant? Nothing you have posted helps him get
>> the photos to the MacBook. Copying files to Linux or Windows does not
>> solve his problem.
>

< snip excessive BS that does not answer the question>

>> Just connect the phone to the MacBook, via USB, open the Photos app and
>> wait for the new device to appear. Then import the photos from the
>> phone. There will be prompts on the phone and the MacBook that Ant will
>> need to respond to. (Including dismissing those related to using the
>> phone with iTunes.) Then wait for the files to copy. Everything imported
>> to photos will be available to use on the MacBook.
>
> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
> nospam said the Mac can do even better.

Calling connect and import vs. your method which in no way solves Ant'
issue as being more complicated is absurd. For starters your method
involves requires installing Linux first.

>
> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
> to any portion of the iOS file system?
>

Again your reading comprehension fails you. I never said it uses iTunes.
I specifically said to dismiss iTunes related pop-ups. You keep letting
your anti-Apple bias affect your thought. Or, you are misrepresenting
what I am saying deliberately.

> For another, perhaps more important since Ant might not need the power and
> flexibility of my method (which nospam said the Mac can do, and better), if
> the method is so easy, why is Ant still, after a dozen days, unsuccessful?

Well, only Ant can tell if that was tried. Don't ask me, that is absurd.

>
> It only took me two minutes to copy 400 photos over USB from or to iOS.
> Remember, nospam says the Mac can do it - and even better.
>
> Why can't Ant get the Mac to do it?
> You tell me.
>

MacOS is not Linux and asking me questions that only Ant or nospam may
answer is absurd on your part.

>> That's not to say there aren't other methods that will also work; this
>> is what I've actually done. Arlen, have you actually copied photos to a Mac?
>
> I substitute teach at a variety of schools, all of which have Macs.
>
> While I can't stand the Mac, I have wrestled it many times in the past and
> I have usually gotten the recalcitrant Mac to do what it should have done
> all long.
>
> However, the point is that nospam clearly and emphatically stated that the
> Mac can do what I did, and even better.
>
> So if the Mac can do what I did (even better) then what I did is apropos.

Only in your distorted world. You did not provide a usable solution for Ant.

>
>> You've posted a lot of words, insulted just about everyone
>
> Whoa. I *never* strike first. Never. Never. Never.
>
> If you actg like a child, I treat you like a child.
> If you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.

You strike at anyone that disagrees with you.

>
> I do that strategically (so you learn to act like an adult).
> I do that tactically (with every response being a mirror of your intent).
>
> The reason you only see insults is that you aren't comprehending this fact.
>
>> and in the
>> process provided no help to Ant.
>
> As I said, my first response was that it's trivial to do what Ant is trying
> to do, and I proved it was trivial (it takes two minutes, literally).
>
> When I said that the Mac 'should' be able to do the same, nospam assured us
> all that not only can the Mac do the same, but it can do it even better.
>
> So if the Mac can't do it, then your beef isn't with me. It's with nospam.
>
>> With respect to Ant's question,
>> everything from you is just noise.
>

<more BS snipped>

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:42:29 -0500, joe wrote:

> Calling connect and import vs. your method which in no way solves Ant'
> issue as being more complicated is absurd. For starters your method
> involves requires installing Linux first.

I did it in two minutes (transfer time).
When I suggested to Ant that maybe the Mac has the same power, your vaunted
hero nospam clearly and repeatedly claims the Mac do that, and better.

Meanwhile, Ant has been trying nospam's suggestions for about 2 weeks.

Hence, don't blame me - I was clearly successful.

Blame nospam if you need blame (but really, blame the Mac, as that's where
the blame lies if it can't even do something as trivially simple as
treating any iOS device on the planet as a basic read/write USB stick).

> Again your reading comprehension fails you. Except that I never said it uses iTunes.

> I specifically said to dismiss iTunes related pop-ups. You keep letting
> your anti-Apple bias affect your thought. Or, you are misrepresenting
> what I am saying deliberately.

Ant asked how to copy the files from the iOS device to the desktop.
I explained to And how I would do it, albeit with Linux, mentioning in the
same post that the Mac might have similar functionality.

Immediately nospam claimed that the Mac had that functionality and more.
And has been spectacularly unsuccessful for two weeks (elapsed time).

Ant says, in effect, the software doesn't work but you ask Ant, not me, why
the method that nospam clearly claimed works, and not only works, but works
better, doesn't appear to work in the least.

At least not in the real world it doesn't seem to work.

> Well, only Ant can tell if that was tried. Don't ask me, that is absurd.

Ant mentioned only once or twice why the methods he's trying to simply copy
files from iOS to the desktop, are failing.

Ask _him_ why it's failing.

I can only tell you it took me two minutes to copy any file I wanted from
any part of iOS visible file system to the desktop, and vice versa.

Since nospam says the Mac can do that, and better, we have to ask the OP
why he's been spectacularly unsuccessful at doing what I clearly did in two
minutes (copying 400 normal-sized JPEG files over USB), and which nospam
claims the Mac can do better.

> MacOS is not Linux and asking me questions that only Ant or nospam may
> answer is absurd on your part.

Logic goes both ways.

Treating the iOS device as a read/write USB stick is clearly not magic and
asking me questions that only Ant or nospam can say why they can't do it is
absurd on your part.

> Only in your distorted world. You did not provide a usable solution for Ant.

What part of logic do you fail to comprehend?
1. Ant asked how to copy the files from iOS ot the desktop
2. A dual boot Mac/Ubuntu would have done it in less than two minutes.

What part of that don't you understand?

HINT: Ubuntu can be booted off the DVD drive, or, if Ant wants a more
permanent solution, Ubuntu installs dual boot with Windows in a few
minutes; Ant has been failing at this for almost two weeks (elapsed time)
using the Mac.

Are you saying that the Mac doesn't have the basic capability of:
a. booting Ubuntu off the DVD drive?
b. dual-booting with MacOS?

If you're saying that the Mac can't do either or both of those two simple
things, then perhaps my method won't help Ant, since the Mac would be,
essentially, brain dead if it can't do something as basic as that.

> You strike at anyone that disagrees with you.

Nope. You're wrong, "joe".

You have no helpful intent whatsoever.
None.

How much have you helped Ant?
HINT: Zero.

You tell me why Ant can't either:
a. Dual boot to Ubuntu, and be done with this task, or,
b. Boot to a Ubuntu DVD and be done with this task.

> <more BS snipped>

I don't have to prove you act like a fifth-grade child, "joe".
Your own childish sentiments prove it to all.

I only speak facts.
Which is why you _hate_ me.

I know that.
You're not supposed to like me.

You're supposed to use logic and facts in your thought process.
Like I do.

Please answer my questions about booting to Ubuntu 18.04 for Ant.
That's what an 'adult' would do if you truly meant what you said.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:28:54 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> To copy any number of files to and from iOS & other machines should be
>> trivial. Any iOS device. Any machine. Zero additional software.
>
> it is trivial, yet for some reason, you manage to turn it and
> everything else into a giant clusterfuck.

I have to wonder if you, nospam, believe the bullshit you spew, just as I
wonder if the Russians or North Koreans believe the bullshit _they_ spew.

a. If you believe the bullshit you spew, then you prove yourself a moron
b. If you don't believe the bullshit you spew, then you're just slime
Pick one.

>> That seems super complicated compared to the method I proposed and which
>> nospam said the Mac can do even better.
>
> it's *much* easier than your method, and can even be set to auto-copy
> if the user prefers.

Again, I have to wonder if you believe the bullshit you spew.
a. If you believe what you write, then you prove you're a moron
b. If you don't believe what you write, then you're just slime

The method I use is to slide using the native file explorer.
There's nothing stopping you from using an rsync script.

>> For one, does your method, which I note seems to use the iTunes
>> abomination, allow Ant to work with *any* iOS device and to read and write
>> to any portion of the iOS file system?
>
> as you've been repeatedly told, itunes is not used to transfer anything.

You consistently play your silly games, nospam, such that you prove you
consistently exhibit the 7 distasteful traits of the Apple Apologists.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/dyso7m6gCgAJ>

One of those distasteful traits of Apple Apologists like you, nospam, is to
allude to imaginary conversations that exist only in your imagination.

> only because you have absolutely no clue what you're doing.

I did in 2 minutes (actual time) what Ant has been trying to do for about
two weeks (elapsed time). He's failed following your advice, as did Wade
Garrett and anyone who actually tries your imaginary systems.

I have to wonder if you, nospam, believe the bullshit you spew, just as I
wonder if the Russians or North Koreans believe the bullshit _they_ spew.

a. If you believe the bullshit you spew, then you prove yourself a moron
b. If you don't believe the bullshit you spew, then you're just slime
Pick one.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:07:49 -0500, Ant wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?
>

> Here's the scenario: Someone has hundreds of photos on her iPhone 6+
> (iOS v11.4.1). She wants to copy them to someone else's MacBook Pro
> (MBP)'s Sierra v10.12.6's Photos app to save. What's the best way to
> sync them locally (not online on the Internet) quickly and smoothly
> without messing up her iPhone and MBP's datas, synchronizations, etc.

Hi Ant,

Your problem is solved!

The Apple poster who goes by the name of "joe", accidentally came up with a
brilliant solution that will work for you in minutes!

That solution will work with any iOS device to turn it, essentially, into a
read/write USB stick simply by plugging it into the Mac desktop.

The Apple Apologists nospam (who proves in every post he is a man child) is
on record for saying what you need to do can't be done, but in actuality,
the adults on the adult newsgroup (alt.os.linux) just explained moments ago
that it should be easy for you to do what you need to do.

All you need to do is boot the Mac to a Ubuntu USB stick and then you'll
have the same power and flexibility I already proved, which will allow you
to make any and all copies to and from any and all iOS devices in just a
couple of minutes!

Here are details from the Linux thread, which the Apple users are already
polluting with their childish drivel (Hint: The adult newsgroups generally
don't contain Apple man-child drivel unless the Apple man children infest
them).

From Mike Easter, an adult... (just a few minutes ago):

> Q: Can the Mac dual boot to Ubuntu or at least boot off a bootable DVD?
> A: ?

Yes. This 2018 Jun article tells how to make a bootable Ub USB with the
Mac and boot it and install it to a Mac part.

https://www.lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-4125733 How to
Install and Dual Boot Linux and Mac OS

> Q: If yes, does Ubuntu recognize the native Mac file system?
> A: ?

Yes; you just have to disable journaling in the HFS.

https://lifehacker.com/5702815/the-complete-guide-to-sharing-your-data-across-multiple-operating-systems
A Comprehensive Guide to Sharing Your Data Across Multi-Booting
Windows, Mac, and Linux PCs

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:59:34 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> I don't have to prove you act like a fifth-grade child, "joe".
> Your own childish sentiments prove it to all.

Actually, even though you acted like a fifth grader, "joe", you actually
came up with a brilliant solution to Ant's problem.

I just asked on the adult newsgroups (and on the Mac newsgroups), where in
minutes, the _wrong_ answer came back on the Mac newsgroups (fancy that)
and the _right_ answer came on the adult newsgroups (as always).

HINT: Yet another ad-hoc proof that Apple posters are man children.

Here's the first answer for Ant, which came up on the Mac newsgroup:
> Q: Can the current Mac boot to a Ubuntu bootable DVD, or not?
no, because there's no dvd drive anymore.

Here's the answer for Ant, which first came up on the adult newsgroup:

> Q: Can the Mac dual boot to Ubuntu or at least boot off a bootable DVD?
> A: ?

Yes. This 2018 Jun article tells how to make a bootable Ub USB with the
Mac and boot it and install it to a Mac part.

https://www.lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-4125733 How to
Install and Dual Boot Linux and Mac OS

> Q: If yes, does Ubuntu recognize the native Mac file system?
> A: ?

Yes; you just have to disable journaling in the HFS.

https://lifehacker.com/5702815/the-complete-guide-to-sharing-your-data-across-multiple-operating-systems
A Comprehensive Guide to Sharing Your Data Across Multi-Booting
Windows, Mac, and Linux PCs

--
Do you see how differently adults answer questions than Apple children?

[nospam]

In article <po3jdb$4rk$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> All you need to do is boot the Mac to a Ubuntu USB stick and then you'll
> have the same power and flexibility I already proved, which will allow you
> to make any and all copies to and from any and all iOS devices in just a
> couple of minutes!

booting ubuntu is in no way easier than simply connecting an ios device
to a mac via usb and copying without any additional software required.

as usual, you make the simplest things into a giant clusterfuck.

[Ant]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <po3jdb$4rk$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
> <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> > All you need to do is boot the Mac to a Ubuntu USB stick and then you'll
> > have the same power and flexibility I already proved, which will allow you
> > to make any and all copies to and from any and all iOS devices in just a
> > couple of minutes!

> booting ubuntu is in no way easier than simply connecting an ios device
> to a mac via usb and copying without any additional software required.

Ditto especially for computer newbies.

[Ant]

Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:
> Arlen Holder <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
> > On 16 Sep 2018 14:48:03 GMT, Ant wrote:

> > >>> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to
> > >>> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos
> > >>> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already
> > >>> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
> > >
> > >> that's odd. try smaller batches.
> > >
> > > Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot.
> > > I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

> > Hi Ant,
> > Any status yet on your success?

> No.

...

> I am only doing it under Mac OS since this is on someone else's MacBook
> Pro. No Linux and Windows. I am going to upgrade iPhone to iOS v12 and
> then retry this weekend. Also, an Apple developer wants me to get a
> dump/log for this iOS crash.

So, I upgraded iPhone 6+'s iOS v11.4.1 to v12 and retested the issue. No
more crashes, but AirDrop just waits forever OR shows failed.
AirDropping one and a few photos had no problems. I followed up with
Apple with my bug report that wanted logs (44512134). I hope they find
something interesting and fix it in the future iOS versions.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 03:58:57 -0500, Ant wrote:

> So, I upgraded iPhone 6+'s iOS v11.4.1 to v12 and retested the issue. No
> more crashes, but AirDrop just waits forever OR shows failed.
> AirDropping one and a few photos had no problems. I followed up with
> Apple with my bug report that wanted logs (44512134). I hope they find
> something interesting and fix it in the future iOS versions.

Bummer. Good luck with that.

The user "joe" is working on Mac-related solution that, when he figures out
the minor kinks (just as I did) would ensure the reliable ability to copy
thousands of pictures at a time just as reliably and as easily as it is to
slide them from one folder to another.

Thanks for keeping us updated.
Please don't give up.

Good luck.

[joe]

Arlen's delusions continue... I am not working on making file transfer
to the Mac work with Ubuntu. That is just a waste of time.

To copy photos from and iPhone to a MacBook, I just connected the phone
via USB and imported with the Photos app.

It was easy and worked first time.

The task is done without messing with a DVD drive, Ubuntu, or a terrible UI.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:10:28 -0500, joe wrote:

> Arlen's delusions continue... I am not working on making file transfer
> to the Mac work with Ubuntu. That is just a waste of time.

Hehhehheh ... I _knew_ you would prove yourself to be a poser, "joe".
I waited for you to prove it by your own words, that "you just gave up".

*I knew you would give up simply because you were crying like a little baby.*

Apple Apologists _always_ give up the moment you run into minor hurdles.

Hehhehheh...

You proved it yourself.
The instant the going got rough, you, joe, *just gave up*.

You Apple Apologists run into minor issues, & you cry like a baby, "joe".
A little Apple baby.

With zero technical skills. Just like Jolly Roger & nospam & Lewis.

None of you have _any_ ability to do anything that Apple MARKTEING didn't
give you a big button for.

All you Apple Apologists _can_ do, is play silly games.

> To copy photos from and iPhone to a MacBook, I just connected the phone
> via USB and imported with the Photos app.

In two minutes each, I proved I can copy 400 photos *to and from* _any_ iOS
device on the planet, "joe", so the fact that you can punch a bunch of
buttons that Apple MARKETING gave you, and then you cry like a little baby
the split second you run into a minor hurdle simply proves that's _all_ you
can do.

You Apple Apologists give up the split second you stray from what Apple
Marketing gave you in big fat buttons.

You proved it for me, "joe". Thank you. I knew you were an Apple
Apologists, but I was _hoping_ (beyond hope) that you actually could
accomplish something that Apple Marketing didn't script for you with big
fat buttons.

HINT: You can't do shit with that method of yours. Try to copy, for examle,
something huge _outside_ the walled garden for Christs' sake, "joe".

You live in a prison - and you don't even realize it, "joe".
When you see the outside walls, you cry like a little baby, "joe".

HINT: You gave up the split second you ran into a minor hurdle, "joe".

>
> It was easy and worked first time.

I copied 14 full-sized movies _to_ my iOS device using the method that
actually works _outside_ the walled garden, "joe".

All you _can_ do, is punch buttons that Apple MARKETING told you to punch.

The split second you ran into a minor hurdle, "joe", you *"just gave up"*.

> The task is done without messing with a DVD drive, Ubuntu, or a terrible UI.

Hehhehheh...

What's amazing is that you actually _think_ what you said is fact.

If the task is "so easy", then why is Ant so spectacularly unsuccessful?

And, "joe", how do you do _anything_ that isn't already scripted for you by
Apple MARKETING, "joe", (hint, like read and write to the _entire_ visible
file system of _any_ iOS device on the planet, which is something I can
easily do, "joe", and you know that).

In summary,
a. Joe proved for us that all Apple Apologists _can_ do, is play games.
b. Joe proved that the moment the going gets rough, he cries like a baby.
c. Joe proved, by his own words, that on minor hurdles, he "just gives up".

Meanwhile, *intelligent* adults solve all the problems presented to them.
In fact, Wolffan <akwo...@gmail.com> already proposed a solution.

HINT: Joe *just gave up* and *cried like a baby* - where adults like
Wolffan easily overcome the minor hurdles that Joe proved he couldn't.

All "joe" had to do to overcome his minor hurdles was install hfsprogs.
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os>

Paragon has an extension for full read/write access to NTFS & HFS+ volumes
<https://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-linux-professional/>

Paragon Software has an add-on extension for full APFS (read-write access)
<https://www.paragon-software.com/business/apfs-linux/>

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, B...@Onramp.net wrote:

> Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
> A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.

Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.

You have to admit, the three dumbest of iOS users are all pretty funny:
a. Lewis
b. BK@OnRamp
c. Jolly Roger

Meanwhile... moving forward to give all users complete freedom to access
their files for free no matter what platform they are on (Mac, Linux, Windows,
iOS, or Android), we likely solved the problem (AFAIK) with the compilation
below.

Thanks to the expert advice of Wolffan on the Mac groups, and Paul,
Mike Easter, and Aragorn on the Linux group.

****************************************************************************
How to read & write to HFS+ partitions by booting to Ubuntu (on the Mac)
!!!WIP ... Untested! ... Preliminary - for review!!!

Please improve so that everyone benefits from every action by each of us.
****************************************************************************
============================================================================
Your choice (works both ways):
a. Journaling disabled
b. Journaling enabled
============================================================================
Read/Write access to a non-journaled HFS+ drive.

1. Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled drive into Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu mounts the HFS+ drive automatically as read-only.
$ mount -l
Your HFS+ device should show up as /dev/sdx
If the drive doesn't automatically mount, mount the HFS+ drive:
$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdx# /media/mntpoint
3. Click the eject button in file explorer to unmount the drive.
4. Install hfsprogs.
$ sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
5. Optional: Check the drive.
$ sudo fsck.hfsplus /dev/sdXY
6. Click on the drive in the file explorer to remount the drive as r/w:
Note: To manually remount the HFS+ drive:
$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdx# /mount/point
============================================================================
Read/Write access to a journaled HFS+ drive.

1. Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled drive into Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu mounts the HFS+ drive automatically as read-only.
$ mount -l
Your HFS+ device should show up as /dev/sdx
If the drive doesn't automatically mount, mount the HFS+ drive:
$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdx# /media/mntpoint
3. Click the eject button in file explorer to unmount the drive.
4. Install hfsprogs.
$ sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
5. Optional: Check the drive.
$ sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdXY
6. Click on the drive in the file explorer to remount the drive as r/w:
Note: To manually remount the HFS+ drive:
$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdx# /mount/point
============================================================================
To read/write on the Mac users' home folder, simply match the User ID:

1. On OS/X, check your UID (typically the default is UID 501):
OS/X: System Preferences > your username > Advanced Options

2. Boot into Ubuntu & add a temp user of the same UID as found above:
$ sudo useradd -d /home/tempuser -m -s /bin/bash -G admin tempuser
$ sudo passwd tempuser
$ sudo usermod --uid 501 yourusername
$ sudo chown -R 501:yourusername /home/yourusername

You can now read & write to both your Mac and Linux user's home folder,
no matter which OS you're logged into.

3. Optionally, add the new user of UID 501 to the Ubuntu login screen:
By default, Ubuntu doesn't list users of UID less than 1000 on the
login screen, where this command changes that default value:

$ gksudo gedit /etc/login.defs
Simply change the value of UID_MIN from 1000 to 501
============================================================================
To turn off HFS+ journaling from the Mac

1. Boot into OS X and fire up the Disk Utility.
2. Click on your HFS partition, hold the Option key, and click File
3. A new option to Disable Journaling will come up in the menu.
4. When you reboot to Linux, it will mount the HFS+ drive r/w automatically
============================================================================
To turn off HFS+ journaling from within Ubuntu

1. Compile disable_journal.c to disable_journal.out
$ gcc -o disable_journal disable_journal.c
2. Run the program to disable journaling.
$ sudo ./disable_journal.out /dev/sdXX
where /dev/sdXX is the partition you wish to mount.
3. Then mount the HFS+ drive using the following:
$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,user /dev/sdXX /media/hfspart

--- cut here for disable_journal.c ---
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <byteswap.h>



int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
int fd = open(argv[1], O_RDWR);
if(fd < 0) {
perror("open");
return -1;
}

unsigned char *buffer = (unsigned char *)mmap(NULL, 2048, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);
if(buffer == (unsigned char*)0xffffffff) {
perror("mmap");
return -1;
}

if((buffer[1024] != 'H') && (buffer[1025] != '+')) {
fprintf(stderr, "%s: HFS+ signature not found -- aborting.\n", argv[0]);
return -1;
}

unsigned long attributes = *(unsigned long *)(&buffer[1028]);
attributes = bswap_32(attributes);
printf("attributes = 0x%8.8lx\n", attributes);

if(!(attributes & 0x00002000)) {
printf("kHFSVolumeJournaledBit not currently set in the volume attributes field.\n");
}

attributes &= 0xffffdfff;
attributes = bswap_32(attributes);
*(unsigned long *)(&buffer[1028]) = attributes;

buffer[1032] = '1';
buffer[1033] = '0';
buffer[1034] = '.';
buffer[1035] = '0';

buffer[1036] = 0;
buffer[1037] = 0;
buffer[1038] = 0;
buffer[1039] = 0;

printf("journal has been disabled.\n");
return 0;
}
--- cut here for disable_journal.c ---
============================================================================
For commercial solutions:
1. Paragon has an extension for full read/write access to NTFS & HFS+ volumes
<https://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-linux-professional/>
NOTE: They have a freeware version available for non-commercial use.

2. Paragon has an add-on extension for full APFS (read-write access)
<https://www.paragon-software.com/business/apfs-linux/>
============================================================================
REFERENCES (in alphabetical order):
<http://refit.sourceforge.net/info/boot_process.html>
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os>
<https://jaysonlorenzen.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/linux-unable-to-write-to-non-journaled-hfsplus-drive/>
<https://lifehacker.com/5702815/the-complete-guide-to-sharing-your-data-across-multiple-operating-systems>
<https://lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-4125733>
<https://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write>
<https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420673>
============================================================================

[nospam]

In article <po5tae$hnh$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> How to read & write to HFS+ partitions by booting to Ubuntu (on the Mac)
> !!!WIP ... Untested! ... Preliminary - for review!!!

what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
work.

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:19:46 -0400, nospam wrote:

> what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
> work.

Hehhehheh ... I had a bet that you would be the *first* person to make a
disparaging remark about how Apple *hid* the settings on the latest OS.

Hehhehheh ... it's so easy to read you nospam ... because you're a child.

[nospam]

In article <po5vhm$kn1$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> > what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
> > work.
>
> Hehhehheh ... I had a bet that you would be the *first* person to make a
> disparaging remark about how Apple *hid* the settings on the latest OS.

nothing is hidden.

you simply haven't any clue what you're doing.

[Lewis]

I know this is a controversial statement, but I think it is possible that
the Troll is Donald Trump.

I mean, think about it, he can't say anything without lying his ass off
and he's so fucking stupid you are shocked he can manage to walk upright.

Fuck off Donny, you aren't wanted here.

--
Generalizations are always inaccurate.

[Andreas Rutishauser]

In article <po5tae$hnh$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, B...@Onramp.net wrote:
>
> > Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
> > A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.
>
> Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.

why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?

Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an
iDevice to that Mac: Photos and Image Capture.

No fancy.

Just done.

--
MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch>
EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk
Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung
<mailto:and...@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47

[Your Name]

On 2018-09-23 04:34:35 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
> In article <po5tae$hnh$1...@news.mixmin.net>,
> "Arlen H. Holder" <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, B...@Onramp.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
>>> A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.
>>
>> Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.
>
> why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?
>
> Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an
> iDevice to that Mac: Photos and Image Capture.
>
> No fancy.
>
> Just done.

Please do not confuse the trolls by posting actual facts.

[Andreas Rutishauser]

In article <po5kh8$512$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:10:28 -0500, joe wrote:
>
> > Arlen's delusions continue... I am not working on making file transfer
> > to the Mac work with Ubuntu. That is just a waste of time.

> > To copy photos from and iPhone to a MacBook, I just connected the phone
> > via USB and imported with the Photos app.
>
> In two minutes each, I proved I can copy 400 photos *to and from* _any_ iOS
> device on the planet, "joe", so the fact that you can punch a bunch of
> buttons that Apple MARKETING gave you, and then you cry like a little baby
> the split second you run into a minor hurdle simply proves that's _all_ you
> can do.

copying 400 photos to and from anywhere is NOT the task at hand.

Copying photos from an iDevice to a MacBook is wanted.

That's easily done by connecting the 2 Apples with the USB cable
provided with the iDevice and using the Photos.app or Image Capture.app
on the Mac to import the photos from the iDevice.

[Alan Browne]

Having to use Photos is a crappy solution, however.


--
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we
need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
- unknown protester

[Arlen H. Holder]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:00:14 +0200, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:

> copying 400 photos to and from anywhere is NOT the task at hand.
>
> Copying photos from an iDevice to a MacBook is wanted.
>
> That's easily done by connecting the 2 Apples with the USB cable
> provided with the iDevice and using the Photos.app or Image Capture.app
> on the Mac to import the photos from the iDevice.

*If it is so simple, then why is Ant so spectacularly unsuccessful?*

HINT: It's been more than two weeks elapsed time, and he _still_ hasn't
been successful without bugs (presumably in the Airdrop asphyxiation).

Doublehint: I showed it shouldn't take more than 2 minutes for 400 photos
to be slid over, in one fell swoop, from the iOS device to the desktop.

[Alan Browne]

On 2018-09-23 14:42, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2018-09-23, Alan Browne <bitb...@blackhole.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-09-22 09:10, joe wrote:
>>>
>>> Arlen's delusions continue... I am not working on making file transfer
>>> to the Mac work with Ubuntu. That is just a waste of time.
>>>
>>> To copy photos from and iPhone to a MacBook, I just connected the phone
>>> via USB and imported with the Photos app.
>>>
>>> It was easy and worked first time.
>>>
>>> The task is done without messing with a DVD drive, Ubuntu, or a terrible
>>> UI.
>>
>> Having to use Photos is a crappy solution, however.
>

> Using Image Capture works fine. Photos is not required.

For most photos I want from my iPhone I just use Airdrop and then move
them from Downloads to wherever they're needed.

For my "real" camera, I use Adobe Bridge and convert to DNG at the same
time (lossless compression of raw to DNG).

[Savageduck]

On Sep 23, 2018, Alan Browne wrote
(in article<ANqdnUea_Zd0aTrG...@giganews.com>):

>
> For most photos I want from my iPhone I just use Airdrop and then move
> them from Downloads to wherever they're needed.

If I am going to transfer individual iPhone/iPad photos I will use one of
several methods I have available depending on my need:

1: Move or Copy to iCloud folder using *Save to Files*.

2: Activate *Auto Add from Camera Roll* in Lightroom CC for shots using the
iPad/iPhone camera, or just use the camera app in LR CC which captures as a
DNG, and bypasses the Camera Roll.

...or manually import into LR CC from Camera Roll. Since I subscribe to Adobe
CC, desktop and iOS devices are auto synced.

3: Airdrop + relocate.

>
> For my "real" camera, I use Adobe Bridge and convert to DNG at the same
> time (lossless compression of raw to DNG).

Bridge is my fall back DAM and always available. However, since I use Adobe CC
I have a desktop with PS CC, LR CCC, LR CC (to get those pesky iOS shots to my
iMac, and load any Collections back to the iOS device) and there is Bridge
included to use whenever.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

[Arlen H. Holder]

On 24 Sep 2018 16:44:48 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> I'll never go back to manually sending files here or there
> if given the choice. It's horribly inefficient in comparison.

It's wonderful when you post, Jolly Roger, because you're the epitome of
the average iOS user, so your thought process about having flexibility and
power is "horribly inefficient", is enlightening.

Hence your thought processes provide a look into the mind of the average
iOS user, who thinks being able to interface with the real world is
"horribly inefficient".

In your case, if Apple MARKETING didn't give you a button to do exactly
what you want to do, you simply give up.

Sure... it takes no time at all for you to "just give up".
But that's not what is so revealing about your child-like thought process.

*What's revealing is that you consider "just giving up" to be _efficient_!*

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 03:58:57 -0500, Ant wrote:

> AirDrop just waits forever OR shows failed.
> AirDropping one and a few photos had no problems. I followed up with
> Apple with my bug report that wanted logs (44512134). I hope they find
> something interesting and fix it in the future iOS versions.

Ant,

Has Apple resolved your Airdrop bug report 44512134 yet?

I don't see a copy of your Apple bug report in Open Radar yet.
<http://openradar.appspot.com/page/1>

Since I haven't seen your bug report in Open Radar, can you inform us.
<http://openradar.appspot.com/search?query=44512134>

Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?

[Arlen Holder]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:07:49 -0500, Ant wrote:

> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
> MacBook locally?

[Ant]

Arlen Holder <arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 03:58:57 -0500, Ant wrote:

> > AirDrop just waits forever OR shows failed.
> > AirDropping one and a few photos had no problems. I followed up with
> > Apple with my bug report that wanted logs (44512134). I hope they find
> > something interesting and fix it in the future iOS versions.

> Ant,

> Has Apple resolved your Airdrop bug report 44512134 yet?

Nope. I followed up and still waiting for an answer.

> I don't see a copy of your Apple bug report in Open Radar yet.
> <http://openradar.appspot.com/page/1>

> Since I haven't seen your bug report in Open Radar, can you inform us.
> <http://openradar.appspot.com/search?query=44512134>

Interesting. I guess it is private?

> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?

Not with Airdrop method. ImageCapture app worked.
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[Ant]

See my post from a few minutes ago.

[Your Name]

On 2018-10-01 01:01:42 +0000, Ant said:

> Arlen Holder <arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:07:49 -0500, Ant wrote:
>
>>> What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's
>>> MacBook locally?
>
>> Ant,
>
>> Has Apple resolved your Airdrop bug report 44512134 yet?
>
>> I don't see a copy of your Apple bug report in Open Radar yet.
>> <http://openradar.appspot.com/page/1>
>
>> Since I haven't seen your bug report in Open Radar, can you inform us.
>> <http://openradar.appspot.com/search?query=44512134>
>
>> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?
>
> See my post from a few minutes ago.

Please stop replying to the brainless cretin "Arlen Holder". :-\

[Arlen Holder]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:59:37 -0500, Ant wrote:

>> Has Apple resolved your Airdrop bug report 44512134 yet?
>
> Nope. I followed up and still waiting for an answer.

Thanks for letting us know.

> Interesting. I guess it is private?

It's private unless you post it to Open Radar.

>> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?
>
> Not with Airdrop method. ImageCapture app worked.

Good for you on the Image Capture method.
Let us know what Apple says about the AirDrop method please.

Thanks for keeping us informed.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:01:42 -0500, Ant wrote:

> See my post from a few minutes ago.

[Arlen Holder]

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:37:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:

> Please stop replying to the brainless cretin "Arlen Holder". :

It's interesting that the only one here speaking facts,
is called "brainless", by the canonical Apple Apologists.

Apple Apologists like Your Name have a belief system devoid of facts.

[Ant]

Arlen Holder <arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:

> > Interesting. I guess it is private?
> It's private unless you post it to Open Radar.

I didn't see any option to make it public?

> >> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?
> >
> > Not with Airdrop method. ImageCapture app worked.

> Good for you on the Image Capture method.
> Let us know what Apple says about the AirDrop method please.

If they ever answer. They did answer my other issue and said that one
was a dupe. Heh.

[David Empson]

Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> > > Interesting. I guess it is private?
> > It's private unless you post it to Open Radar.
>
> I didn't see any option to make it public?

Apple bug reports are always private, because they may include
condifidential information from the person filing the report.

If you want anyone other than Apple to see your report, you can choose
to also post the bug report to Open Radar (after noting the details from
your Apple bug report, such as the number Apple assigned to it).

Open Radar is a completely separate mechanism which is not run by Apple.

> > >> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?
> > >
> > > Not with Airdrop method. ImageCapture app worked.
>
> > Good for you on the Image Capture method.
> > Let us know what Apple says about the AirDrop method please.
>
> If they ever answer. They did answer my other issue and said that one
> was a dupe. Heh.

That's normal if more than one person files a report on the same issue.
Apple might ask those who filed duplicate reports for more information,
but otherwise they only deal with the person who filed the original
report, and nobody else gets to see that discussion.

Most of my bug reports have been closed as duplicates, but on rare
occasions I happen to be the first (or best of the initial batch of
reports), so I at least get a response.

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

[Ant]

David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> > > > Interesting. I guess it is private?
> > > It's private unless you post it to Open Radar.
> >
> > I didn't see any option to make it public?

> Apple bug reports are always private, because they may include
> condifidential information from the person filing the report.

> If you want anyone other than Apple to see your report, you can choose
> to also post the bug report to Open Radar (after noting the details from
> your Apple bug report, such as the number Apple assigned to it).

> Open Radar is a completely separate mechanism which is not run by Apple.

Ah. So, run by a third party. I will stick with Apple then.

> > > >> Have you been successful copying the 400 photos from iOS to Mac yet?
> > > >
> > > > Not with Airdrop method. ImageCapture app worked.
> >
> > > Good for you on the Image Capture method.
> > > Let us know what Apple says about the AirDrop method please.
> >
> > If they ever answer. They did answer my other issue and said that one
> > was a dupe. Heh.

> That's normal if more than one person files a report on the same issue.
> Apple might ask those who filed duplicate reports for more information,
> but otherwise they only deal with the person who filed the original
> report, and nobody else gets to see that discussion.

> Most of my bug reports have been closed as duplicates, but on rare
> occasions I happen to be the first (or best of the initial batch of
> reports), so I at least get a response.

Ah, which original bug reports did you write about?