Best way to copy video to iPhone

[Alan Browne]

Want to copy some .mov files to the iPhone to Air Play tonight after
Xmas supper. (Old 8mm and VHS stuff that was put into .mov).

I copy them to the iTunes library and sync. There is indication they
are transferring to the iPhone. But nothing on the iPhone (photo
albums, video album).

What did I miss?

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[Alan Browne]

On 2014.12.25 09:02 , Alan Browne wrote:
>
> Want to copy some .mov files to the iPhone to Air Play tonight after
> Xmas supper. (Old 8mm and VHS stuff that was put into .mov).
>
> I copy them to the iTunes library and sync. There is indication they
> are transferring to the iPhone. But nothing on the iPhone (photo
> albums, video album).
>
> What did I miss?

(Yes: I did the iTunes "Create New Version" step for iPhone).

[Savageduck]

On 2014-12-25 14:02:46 +0000, Alan Browne

<alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

>
> Want to copy some .mov files to the iPhone to Air Play tonight after
> Xmas supper. (Old 8mm and VHS stuff that was put into .mov).
>
> I copy them to the iTunes library and sync. There is indication they
> are transferring to the iPhone. But nothing on the iPhone (photo
> albums, video album).
>
> What did I miss?

With my set up all media; music & video is moved manually. So after
loading into iTunes I just drag & drop within iTunes.

Then I don't seem to have any .mov files in iTunes. All the movies &
videos I have there, including stuff bought via iTunes and videos &
movies I have run through Handbrake, are all .m4v or mp4.
The only .mov files I have on my iPhone are videos shot with the iPhone.

I have found that on import into iOS devices, some of those .m4v files
will be arbitrarily designated as "Home Videos", the group to be
selected on the bottom right of the open Videos App.

So on my 64GB iP5S I only keep videos I might currently want access to
& Podcasts of interest (in the Podcast App) all purchased/subscribed to
stuff is in iCloud and easily downloaded.
Here is what I have in my Videos App, "Home Videos", loaded this AM,
and it is an m4v.
<https://db.tt/PugGEyeR>

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[Alan Browne]

Makes sense. In the iPhone info (via settings) I do see the videos.
Can't play them from there.

In iTunes I do see the videos as loaded on the iPhone.

However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.

It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.

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[Alan Browne]

On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>
> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.

What Videos app?

[Alan Browne]

On 2014.12.25 11:40 , Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>>
>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
> What Videos app?

Disregard. Got it. Thanks.

The strange thing is that I can launch a video shot from my iPhone
within the "Photos" app so I assumed that's where all videos were
launched from.

(Never bothered with video downloads on the iPhone 4)

Merry Christmas.

[Alan Browne]

On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>
> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.

Does Videos app output to Air Play? Can't get that to go. (It will
from Photos when I play a video from there ... of course only those
videos shot with the iPhone ...)

[Savageduck]

On 2014-12-25 16:29:14 +0000, Alan Browne

Correct. There is no "Home Videos" in the iPhone Photos folder.
All the imported videos & movies are in the *Videos* app. That is where
*Home Videos*, as shown in the DB link, is to be found.

In the Photos folder there is an album labeled "Videos" and that is
only for videos created with the iPhone.
Here are a few I shot with the iPhone, in the Videos album of the
Photos folder. Those are .mov files.
<https://db.tt/xBX4ieDu>


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Savageduck

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>>
>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
> What Videos app?

The one that comes with iOS. What version of iOS are you running?

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.12.25 11:40 , Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>>>
>>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>>
>> What Videos app?
>
> Disregard. Got it. Thanks.
>
> The strange thing is that I can launch a video shot from my iPhone
> within the "Photos" app so I assumed that's where all videos were
> launched from.

Ah, ok.

> (Never bothered with video downloads on the iPhone 4)
>
> Merry Christmas.

Same to you. : )

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>>
>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
> Does Videos app output to Air Play? Can't get that to go. (It will
> from Photos when I play a video from there ... of course only those
> videos shot with the iPhone ...)

I've never tried it. I barely ever use the Videos app. I just took a
look and didn't see the Airplay control. So it looks like you'll need to
use the Control Center to do Airplay mirroring instead.

[Alan Browne]

That's fine - but I can't Air Play those out to the Apple TV from there
(as far as I can see...) whilst it's feasible when playing a video made
on the phone from the Photo app.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>

> That's fine - but I can't Air Play those out to the Apple TV from there
> (as far as I can see...) whilst it's feasible when playing a video made
> on the phone from the Photo app.

Well you can use Airplay to display any content from iOS. It's just that
in this case, the app itself doesn't support it, so instead you have to
do it through the Control Center and with mirroring.

[Alan Browne]

On 2014.12.25 12:05 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>>>
>>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>>
>> Does Videos app output to Air Play? Can't get that to go. (It will
>> from Photos when I play a video from there ... of course only those
>> videos shot with the iPhone ...)
>
> I've never tried it. I barely ever use the Videos app. I just took a
> look and didn't see the Airplay control. So it looks like you'll need to
> use the Control Center to do Airplay mirroring instead.

Ah! The missing link!

Thanks.

[Savageduck]

On 2014-12-25 16:40:40 +0000, Alan Browne

<alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

> On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-12-25, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
>
>>
>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
> What Videos app?

This *Video* App. It is one of the iPS default apps.
<https://db.tt/iscSH3EV>


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Savageduck

[Patty Winter]

In article <K-2dnSNaJKWUowHJ...@giganews.com>,

Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2014.12.25 11:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
>What Videos app?

The one called "Videos". It's a standard installation with iOS; did
you remove it from your device?


Patty

[Alan Browne]

That was so 30 minutes ago ... but thanks.

[Alan Browne]

Never used it before (iPhone 4) - assumed that since videos made on the
phone would play from the "Photos" app that that applied to videos
downloaded to the phone.

Between you and JR it's now solved.

- Video app for videos copied to the iPhone.
- Mirroring (from the swipe up control panel) to the AppleTV.

Works fine.

Merry Christmas.

[Michelle Steiner]

In article <LrqdnU8pNLQ03wHJ...@giganews.com>, Alan Browne

<alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> >> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
> >
> > It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
>
> Does Videos app output to Air Play? Can't get that to go. (It will
> from Photos when I play a video from there ... of course only those
> videos shot with the iPhone ...)

You have to turn on Air Play from the Control Center.

[Jolly Roger]

One of the things that bothers me about Airplay is the inconsistency in
support across applications - even Apple's own applications.

[Michelle Steiner]

In article <cg32uu...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> >> However "Home Videos" is not shown in the photos folder on the iPhone.
> >> >
> >> > It would appear in the Videos app - not Photos.
> >>
> >> Does Videos app output to Air Play? Can't get that to go. (It will
> >> from Photos when I play a video from there ... of course only those
> >> videos shot with the iPhone ...)
> >
> > You have to turn on Air Play from the Control Center.
>
> One of the things that bothers me about Airplay is the inconsistency in
> support across applications - even Apple's own applications.

I can see a logic in not having Air Play in the Videos app. The app is
designed to play movies, TV shows, etc., purchased from the iTunes
Store. Once purchased, you can download them directly to the Apple TV,
so there's no need to stream them from the iPhone or iPad. In the case
of Home Videos, they're on the computer, and you can stream them from
there via Air Play, so again, no need to put them on the iDevice.

Of course, there are some situations that do require streaming from the
iDevice to the Apple TV, but they're out of the mainstream, and can be
handled by activating Air Play from the Control Center.

[Patty Winter]

In article <vf2dnRxne8mV2wHJ...@giganews.com>,

Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2014.12.25 12:13 , Patty Winter wrote:
>>
>> The one called "Videos". It's a standard installation with iOS; did
>> you remove it from your device?
>
>That was so 30 minutes ago ... but thanks.

Even though for many years now Usenet traffic has mostly been carried
over the Internet, propagation isn't instantaneous, and the other people's
responses to your question hadn't shown up on my news server when I posted
that, else I wouldn't have.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted out.


Patty

[Alan Browne]

Photos - video play -> "Send To" button -> Air Play

Video - video play -> no Air Play except via the Control Centre.

The inconsistency is "Photos" having an Air Play (via the "Send To" button).

On the iMac I Air Play the screen to the Apple TV - in that sense, Video
on the iPhone is like on the Mac.

[Alan Browne]

I know. Just teasing. I get usenet posts pretty quick (using Giganews
who are a big efficient vacuum - I might drop it though for something
like eternal-september).

>
> Anyway, glad you got it sorted out.

Thanks.

[Rod Speed]

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:20141225075620804-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...

> On 2014-12-25 14:02:46 +0000, Alan Browne
> <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>
>>
>> Want to copy some .mov files to the iPhone to Air Play tonight after Xmas
>> supper. (Old 8mm and VHS stuff that was put into .mov).
>>
>> I copy them to the iTunes library and sync. There is indication they are
>> transferring to the iPhone. But nothing on the iPhone (photo albums,
>> video album).
>>
>> What did I miss?

> With my set up all media; music & video is moved manually.

Mine isnt, the podcasts are moved automatically.

> So after loading into iTunes I just drag & drop within iTunes.

I don’t load the stuff I do manually into iTunes, just
use iTunes to move it into the phone, normally the
stuff I download for the kids from pirate bay.

> Then I don't seem to have any .mov files in iTunes. All the movies &
> videos I have there, including stuff bought via iTunes and videos & movies
> I have run through Handbrake, are all .m4v or mp4.

The stuff I get from pirate bay can be in all sorts of formats and
quite a few of them arent recognised by the iphone as something
it can play. So I installed VLC and manually move the file to the
phone's VLC using itunes.

VLC isnt always available in the play store tho.

[Rod Speed]

"Michelle Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:251220141141350511%mich...@michelle.org...

Still produces a much more consistent UI by allowing it from anywhere
even tho it may not be used from the iDevice that much.

[Savageduck]

On 2014-12-25 19:47:23 +0000, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> said:
>
> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
> news:20141225075620804-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> On 2014-12-25 14:02:46 +0000, Alan Browne
>> <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:
>>
>>>
>>> Want to copy some .mov files to the iPhone to Air Play tonight after
>>> Xmas supper. (Old 8mm and VHS stuff that was put into .mov).
>>>
>>> I copy them to the iTunes library and sync. There is indication they
>>> are transferring to the iPhone. But nothing on the iPhone (photo
>>> albums, video album).
>>>
>>> What did I miss?
>
>> With my set up all media; music & video is moved manually.
>
> Mine isnt, the podcasts are moved automatically.

I don't bother syncing, or even moving Podcasts manually from iTunes to
my iPhone or iPad. I have some I subscribe to via the iOS Podcast App.
They appear as available in iCloud and I just access them when I want
to play them. Delete from iDevice when done and it is archived in
iCloud if a repeat viewing is ever wanted.

>> So after loading into iTunes I just drag & drop within iTunes.
>
> I don’t load the stuff I do manually into iTunes, just
> use iTunes to move it into the phone, normally the
> stuff I download for the kids from pirate bay.

I don't use any of the torrent sources such as Pirate Bay. I do the
occasional rip of a DVD using Mac The DVDRipper Pro or Handbrake.
<http://www.macdvdripperpro.com>
<https://handbrake.fr>

Then I will use iTunes, DVD Player, or VLC to view on my desktop.
Otherwise I use iTunes or Dropbox to load the files into my iDevices. I
find that m4v or mp4 files work best on my iOS devices.

>> Then I don't seem to have any .mov files in iTunes. All the movies &
>> videos I have there, including stuff bought via iTunes and videos &
>> movies I have run through Handbrake, are all .m4v or mp4.
>
> The stuff I get from pirate bay can be in all sorts of formats and
> quite a few of them arent recognised by the iphone as something
> it can play. So I installed VLC and manually move the file to the
> phone's VLC using itunes.

Handbrake can usually do a pretty good job of getting video files to a
state that an iOS device won't choke on them.

> VLC isnt always available in the play store tho.

>> The only .mov files I have on my iPhone are videos shot with the iPhone.
>
>> I have found that on import into iOS devices, some of those .m4v files
>> will be arbitrarily designated as "Home Videos", the group to be
>> selected on the bottom right of the open Videos App.
>
>> So on my 64GB iP5S I only keep videos I might currently want access to
>> & Podcasts of interest (in the Podcast App) all purchased/subscribed to
>> stuff is in iCloud and easily downloaded.
>> Here is what I have in my Videos App, "Home Videos", loaded this AM,
>> and it is an m4v.
>> <https://db.tt/PugGEyeR>
>

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Regards,

Savageduck

[Rod Speed]

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message

news:2014122512542676724-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...

The stuff the kids want isnt readily available on DVD.

> Then I will use iTunes, DVD Player, or VLC to view on my desktop.
> Otherwise I use iTunes or Dropbox to load the files into my iDevices.

I find dropbox much too slow so use itunes with a USB connection.

I normally get the stuff from pirate bay using the desktop
but with one of the kids put the pirate bay app on his
android tablet and let him get them himself directly.

But that has just died when pirate bay got raided.

There are pirate bay clones that work fine on the desktop
but don’t with the pirate bay app on the tablet.

> I find that m4v or mp4 files work best on my iOS devices.

I find it more convenient to get anything available and use
VLC except for the fact that VLC can go missing from the
play store and that can be a problem with a new kid.

>>> Then I don't seem to have any .mov files in iTunes. All the movies &
>>> videos I have there, including stuff bought via iTunes and videos &
>>> movies I have run through Handbrake, are all .m4v or mp4.

>> The stuff I get from pirate bay can be in all sorts of formats and
>> quite a few of them arent recognised by the iphone as something
>> it can play. So I installed VLC and manually move the file to the
>> phone's VLC using itunes.

> Handbrake can usually do a pretty good job of getting video files to a
> state that an iOS device won't choke on them.

Sure, but like I say, I prefer VLC myself. That way
I use the same thing to play video on everything.