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Yet again, Apple proves they never even once sufficiently tested iOS 14 in the real world
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Arlen Holder
Oct 30, 2020, 8:11:03 PM10/30/20
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Yet again, Apple proves they never even once sufficiently tested iOS 14
in the real world.
Google proved that long ago that iOS couldn't have been tested even once.
o Yet again, Apple proves that they don't sufficiently test iOS even once!
What's shocking is Apple _always_ proves me right that Apple engineering
has never tested their iOS releases even _once_ in the real world.
o *iOS 14 is looking to be as buggy as the piece of shit iOS 13.x was!*
o IOS 14.2 GOLDEN MASTER UPDATE FIXES NEW IOS UPDATE AVAILABLE BUG
<https://www.iphonetricks.org/ios-14-2-golden-master-fixes-new-ios-update-available-bug/>
"Apple has rushed the iOS 14.2 Golden Master release to fix the
New iOS Update Available bug that flared up less than 24 hours
ago and ruined the experience of most iPhone and iPad users
that were actively testing the upcoming major public release."
--
*Remember, nobody in high tech has _lower_ R&D spend than does Apple!*
o Apple is all MARKETING bullshit - but little actual engineering effort!
in the real world.
Google proved that long ago that iOS couldn't have been tested even once.
o Yet again, Apple proves that they don't sufficiently test iOS even once!
What's shocking is Apple _always_ proves me right that Apple engineering
has never tested their iOS releases even _once_ in the real world.
o *iOS 14 is looking to be as buggy as the piece of shit iOS 13.x was!*
o IOS 14.2 GOLDEN MASTER UPDATE FIXES NEW IOS UPDATE AVAILABLE BUG
<https://www.iphonetricks.org/ios-14-2-golden-master-fixes-new-ios-update-available-bug/>
"Apple has rushed the iOS 14.2 Golden Master release to fix the
New iOS Update Available bug that flared up less than 24 hours
ago and ruined the experience of most iPhone and iPad users
that were actively testing the upcoming major public release."
--
*Remember, nobody in high tech has _lower_ R&D spend than does Apple!*
o Apple is all MARKETING bullshit - but little actual engineering effort!
Alan Baker
Oct 30, 2020, 8:46:17 PM10/30/20
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On 2020-10-30 5:11 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> Yet again,
...you yammer on!
> Yet again,
...you yammer on!
John
Oct 30, 2020, 9:27:02 PM10/30/20
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On 10/30/2020 5:11 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> Yet again, Apple proves they never even once sufficiently tested iOS 14
> in the real world.
>
> Google proved that long ago that iOS couldn't have been tested even once.
> o Yet again, Apple proves that they don't sufficiently test iOS even once!
>
> What's shocking is Apple _always_ proves me right that Apple engineering
> has never tested their iOS releases even _once_ in the real world.
> o *iOS 14 is looking to be as buggy as the piece of shit iOS 13.x was!*
>
> o IOS 14.2 GOLDEN MASTER UPDATE FIXES NEW IOS UPDATE AVAILABLE BUG
> <https://www.iphonetricks.org/ios-14-2-golden-master-fixes-new-ios-update-available-bug/>
>
> "Apple has rushed the iOS 14.2 Golden Master release to fix the
> New iOS Update Available bug that flared up less than 24 hours
> ago and ruined the experience of most iPhone and iPad users
> that were actively testing the upcoming major public release."
>
IOS 14 works great. Any problems you have are probably due to operator
> Yet again, Apple proves they never even once sufficiently tested iOS 14
> in the real world.
>
> Google proved that long ago that iOS couldn't have been tested even once.
> o Yet again, Apple proves that they don't sufficiently test iOS even once!
>
> What's shocking is Apple _always_ proves me right that Apple engineering
> has never tested their iOS releases even _once_ in the real world.
> o *iOS 14 is looking to be as buggy as the piece of shit iOS 13.x was!*
>
> o IOS 14.2 GOLDEN MASTER UPDATE FIXES NEW IOS UPDATE AVAILABLE BUG
> <https://www.iphonetricks.org/ios-14-2-golden-master-fixes-new-ios-update-available-bug/>
>
> "Apple has rushed the iOS 14.2 Golden Master release to fix the
> New iOS Update Available bug that flared up less than 24 hours
> ago and ruined the experience of most iPhone and iPad users
> that were actively testing the upcoming major public release."
>
error.
Alan Browne
Oct 31, 2020, 8:04:30 PM10/31/20
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On 2020-10-30 21:26, John wrote:
> IOS 14 works great. Any problems you have are probably due to operator
> error.
In his case it's not operator ... error. It's operative something, most
> IOS 14 works great. Any problems you have are probably due to operator
> error.
likely found in the recesses of a collection of psychiatric studies
focused on massive underachievement by age 35 and the realization firmly
setting in about 15 years later.
Best not to feed it with replies. Starve it of that oxygen. Please.
For the rest of us.
--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens
sms
Oct 31, 2020, 8:35:45 PM10/31/20
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On 10/30/2020 6:26 PM, John wrote:
<snip>
> IOS 14 works great. Any problems you have are probably due to operator
> error.
Well in this case Arlen does have a point. Apple even has acknowledged
some of the issues and has issued suggestions to mitigate them. These
issues are being widely discussed on the Apple developer forums as well.
The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
<snip>
> IOS 14 works great. Any problems you have are probably due to operator
> error.
some of the issues and has issued suggestions to mitigate them. These
issues are being widely discussed on the Apple developer forums as well.
The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
Arlen Holder
Oct 31, 2020, 9:11:35 PM10/31/20
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 20:04:28 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
> Best not to feed it with replies.
*Notice how _petrified_ apologists like Alan Browne are, of mere facts*
> Best not to feed it with replies.
o *What Alan Browne just said is that he's deathly _afraid_ of mere facts*.
Why?
o I don't know why.
I suspect Apologists' entire belief system is simply _destroyed_ by facts.
o Hence, Alan Browne is clearly _afraid_ of everyone who bears facts.
--
Apologists like Alan Browne prove to be deathly _afraid_ of mere facts.
Arlen Holder
Oct 31, 2020, 9:17:27 PM10/31/20
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 17:35:31 -0700, sms wrote:
> Well in this case Arlen does have a point.
Remember, never once in Usenet history have I posted incorrect facts(1).
> Well in this case Arlen does have a point.
Everything I posted was verbatim from reliable published media.
*The apologists, like Alan Browne, are deathly _afraid_ of those facts.
--
(1) I may make typos & thinkos since Usenet is a casual medium; but all the
facts I post are well cited and accurate - where what Apologists inately
hate is that they have no factual response to those facts - so they simply
brazenly claim that all facts that are published about Apple are "lies by
liars" (since they didn't get fed to the apologists via Apple MARKETING).
nospam
Oct 31, 2020, 9:31:10 PM10/31/20
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In article <rnkvsl$vij$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
that matter.
it's nothing more than yet another major update causing the system to
reindex files, update caches and various other housekeeping tasks,
which *temporarily* will cause higher battery usage, but once it's done
within a couple of days, everything is back to normal.
users love to complain, but never seem to mention that a few days
later, battery runtime is what it was before.
another issue with major updates is that users try out all of the new
features, which means they're using the phone more, thereby causing the
battery to drain faster. no surprise there. once they go back to a
normal usage pattern, normal battery life returns.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
no it didn't. there is no battery drain issue with 14.1 or 14.0 for
> The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
that matter.
it's nothing more than yet another major update causing the system to
reindex files, update caches and various other housekeeping tasks,
which *temporarily* will cause higher battery usage, but once it's done
within a couple of days, everything is back to normal.
users love to complain, but never seem to mention that a few days
later, battery runtime is what it was before.
another issue with major updates is that users try out all of the new
features, which means they're using the phone more, thereby causing the
battery to drain faster. no surprise there. once they go back to a
normal usage pattern, normal battery life returns.
badgolferman
Oct 31, 2020, 9:39:41 PM10/31/20
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to normal if no one reports that?
nospam
Oct 31, 2020, 10:03:52 PM10/31/20
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In article <rnl3ko$eaq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, badgolferman
*every* major ios and macos update has the same 'battery drain' issues
for the above reasons, which go away within a few days or a week, after
things settle down.
another reason is an app that hasn't yet been updated for the new
system and is causing problems. that's not common, but still a
possibility.
> but how do you know their battery usage returns
> to normal if no one reports that?
some people do, although not many since people like to complain, no
matter what it is. they rarely post that everything is fine.
another factor is that journalists love to write about complaints,
problems, disasters, etc. it's linkbait, which gets more clicks, thus
generating more ad revenue.
nothing is perfect, and out of more than 1 billion devices, a small
number will encounter problems, but nothing widespread.
every once in a while there really is a problem and the update is
pulled. that happens not just with apple, but also other companies.
windows 10 had an update that deleted the user's home folder in some
cases. not good. as i recall, it was pulled rather quickly.
<REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
> >
> > no it didn't. there is no battery drain issue with 14.1 or 14.0 for
> > that matter.
> >
> > it's nothing more than yet another major update causing the system to
> > reindex files, update caches and various other housekeeping tasks,
> > which *temporarily* will cause higher battery usage, but once it's done
> > within a couple of days, everything is back to normal.
> >
> > users love to complain, but never seem to mention that a few days
> > later, battery runtime is what it was before.
> >
> > another issue with major updates is that users try out all of the new
> > features, which means they're using the phone more, thereby causing the
> > battery to drain faster. no surprise there. once they go back to a
> > normal usage pattern, normal battery life returns.
> >
>
> Maybe what you say is true,
it is true.
> >> The battery drain issue wasn't present in iOS 14, it only appeared in 14.1.
> >
> > no it didn't. there is no battery drain issue with 14.1 or 14.0 for
> > that matter.
> >
> > it's nothing more than yet another major update causing the system to
> > reindex files, update caches and various other housekeeping tasks,
> > which *temporarily* will cause higher battery usage, but once it's done
> > within a couple of days, everything is back to normal.
> >
> > users love to complain, but never seem to mention that a few days
> > later, battery runtime is what it was before.
> >
> > another issue with major updates is that users try out all of the new
> > features, which means they're using the phone more, thereby causing the
> > battery to drain faster. no surprise there. once they go back to a
> > normal usage pattern, normal battery life returns.
> >
>
> Maybe what you say is true,
*every* major ios and macos update has the same 'battery drain' issues
for the above reasons, which go away within a few days or a week, after
things settle down.
another reason is an app that hasn't yet been updated for the new
system and is causing problems. that's not common, but still a
possibility.
> but how do you know their battery usage returns
> to normal if no one reports that?
matter what it is. they rarely post that everything is fine.
another factor is that journalists love to write about complaints,
problems, disasters, etc. it's linkbait, which gets more clicks, thus
generating more ad revenue.
nothing is perfect, and out of more than 1 billion devices, a small
number will encounter problems, but nothing widespread.
every once in a while there really is a problem and the update is
pulled. that happens not just with apple, but also other companies.
windows 10 had an update that deleted the user's home folder in some
cases. not good. as i recall, it was pulled rather quickly.
Arlen Holder
Oct 31, 2020, 10:31:33 PM10/31/20
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 22:03:51 -0400, nospam wrote:
> windows 10 had an update that deleted the user's home folder in some
> cases. not good. as i recall, it was pulled rather quickly.
The apologists are desperate to fabricate excuses for Apple's own behavior.
> windows 10 had an update that deleted the user's home folder in some
> cases. not good. as i recall, it was pulled rather quickly.
o *You apologists repeatedly _blame_ everyone but Apple for Apple's bugs!*
We talk openly about Windows & Android bugs on the _adult_ OS newsgroups.
o It's only on Apple newsgroups you apologists blame everyone but Apple.
I'm daily on the Windows & Android newsgroups where this doesn't happen
o It's only on the Apple newsgroups such facts need to be blamed on others.
--
The apologists are desperate to fabricate excuses for Apple's own behavior.
Arlen Holder
Nov 1, 2020, 1:59:52 PM11/1/20
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On 1 Nov 2020 17:51:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Yep. All iOS devices always experience a temporary drop in performance
> immediately after an OS update/upgrade while the operating system
> rebuilds caches and indexes, and downloads and installs app updates.
> Naturally, while the device is busy doing this, battery performance will
> also be impacted. This typically lasts from an hour or two to a day or
> two depending on the age and speed of the device and network bandwidth,
> after which performance returns to normal. The overwhelming majority of
> posts I see online complaining about iOS devices supposedly being slowed
> down or batteries draining abnormally fast by iOS updates are in this
> category.
What the apologists deny is what Apple clearly already admitted.
--
HINT: The apologists literally deny what Apple said in the release notes.
> Yep. All iOS devices always experience a temporary drop in performance
> immediately after an OS update/upgrade while the operating system
> rebuilds caches and indexes, and downloads and installs app updates.
> Naturally, while the device is busy doing this, battery performance will
> also be impacted. This typically lasts from an hour or two to a day or
> two depending on the age and speed of the device and network bandwidth,
> after which performance returns to normal. The overwhelming majority of
> posts I see online complaining about iOS devices supposedly being slowed
> down or batteries draining abnormally fast by iOS updates are in this
> category.
What the apologists deny is what Apple clearly already admitted.
--
HINT: The apologists literally deny what Apple said in the release notes.
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