iOS 13.1.1

[Chris]

New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.

A single fix to the sandbox:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT210624

Seems like unlucky 13 for Apple.

[Arlen Holder]

I wonder, sans searching, if this is the iOS 13.1 keyboard vulnerability?
o It's not really important though, since EVERY iOS release is insecure.

While this vulnerability is perhaps not Apple's fault, the sad fact is:
o All iOS releases are insufficiently tested.

Google proved that - and Apple didn't (nay, couldn't) deny the facts.
o Apple simply didn't like the "way" Google proved it.

It's valid to characterize incessant releases as the "iOS diarrhea".

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[nospam]

In article <qmo583$f6$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@arlinghlder.edu> wrote:

> o It's not really important though, since I am insecure.

ftfy

[Ant]

Sounds urgent to me. I noticed Apple's QA had been lacking. :(
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[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:19:22 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> o It's not really important though, since I am insecure.
>
> ftfy

This newsgroup is filled to the brim with apologist children
o Who hate facts so much - that they turn into a child in the face of facts

Adults will note that I spoke facts about the iOS 13.1 release.
o Nospam instantly turned into a small child when confronted with those facts.

Every time nospam does his childish "ftfy", I'll point it out
o Nospam doesn't like facts; but that doesn't change that they're still facts.

[nospam]

In article <qmoejj$mq1$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@arlinghlder.edu> wrote:

> This newsgroup is filled to the brim with my trolling

ftfy

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 16:15:10 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> This newsgroup is filled to the brim with my trolling
>
> ftfy

The funny thing, for adults, is that if you ever spoke the truth
o And if you didn't incessantly play your silly games, nospam

I wouldn't need to post to correct your brazen claims.
o Since my role on this newsgroup - is simply to ensure the facts.

[nospam]

In article <qmoikd$om$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@arlinghlder.edu> wrote:

> o Since my role on this newsgroup - is simply to troll

ftfy

[Lewis]

In message <qmnufa$sj3$1...@dont-email.me> Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:


> New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.

WTF does Tuesday have to do with it?

> Seems like unlucky 13 for Apple.

Troll troll troll your FUD.


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[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:27:13 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> o Since my role on this newsgroup - is simply to troll
>
> ftfy

Notice how you always prove to own the brain of a child, nospam.
o When you're confronted with facts.

You Apologists actually BELIEVE everything Apple feeds you.
o When facts prove otherwise - you consistently react like a child does.

You prove this for me, every time you post 'ftfy'.

[nospam]

In article <qmooga$gcl$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@arlinghlder.edu> wrote:

> Notice how I always prove to have the brain of a child


> I consistently act like a child

ftfy

[David Empson]

Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.

Not surprising at all. The public release of 13.1 is equivalent to the
last beta which was a week earlier - that was effectively a gold master,
as 13.1 was the initial release of iPadOS 13 for iPads (including being
the version which needed to be installed on the initial batch of
10.2-inch iPads that were in production and awaiting distribution).

Some parts of the code may have been frozen earlier.

That week (or more) would have been used to develop the first bug fix
release, which turned out to be ready two days later.

I don't think Tuesdays are special. iOS 12 had updates on any weekday
and the majority were on Mondays (US time).

> A single fix to the sandbox:
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT210624

That is just the security fix. 13.1.1 includes several other documented
bug fixes.

- Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone/iPad restoring from backup
- Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
- Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on
iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
- Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after
turning them off
- Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
- Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps

(The last is the same as the sandbox security fix.)

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[*Hemidactylus*]

3rd party keyboards?

[*Hemidactylus*]

tl;dr

[*Hemidactylus*]

So nothing critical since I don’t use 3rd party keyboards?

[*Hemidactylus*]

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unhealthy seething hatred for an operating system. If iOS never existed he
would have no purpose in his life. Don’t take Apple’s periodic bug fixes
away from him or he will slip into a downward spiral of oatmeal cookies,
cream cheese, missed showers, and depression.

[David Empson]

*Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

> David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > 13.1.1 includes several other documented
> > bug fixes.
> >
> > - Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone/iPad restoring from backup
> > - Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
> > - Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on
> > iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
> > - Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after
> > turning them off
> > - Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
> > - Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps
> >
> > (The last is the same as the sandbox security fix.)
> >
> So nothing critical since I don't use 3rd party keyboards?

Not being able to restore a backup sounds pretty critical to me.

If you have already installed iOS/iPadOS 13.x, you should certainly
install this update.

If you are still on iOS 12, and are waiting for a good point to upgrade
to iOS/iPadOS 13, then 13.1.1 at least fixes some bugs in the new OSes.

If your main concern is security, then by choosing to remain on iOS 12
you are exposed to all the known security issues which Apple fixed in
iOS 13 and iOS/iPadOS 13.1.

https://support.apple.com/HT210606
https://support.apple.com/HT210603

There are clearly more security issues fixed in those versions which
have not yet been revealed (see the additional recognition items which
have no corresponding issue listed). Apple can't reveal fixes for issues
that affect multiple platforms until all the affected OSes are released:
we're still waiting for watchOS 6 on older models and macOS Catalina.

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[Chris]

David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.
>
> Not surprising at all. The public release of 13.1 is equivalent to the
> last beta which was a week earlier - that was effectively a gold master,
> as 13.1 was the initial release of iPadOS 13 for iPads (including being
> the version which needed to be installed on the initial batch of
> 10.2-inch iPads that were in production and awaiting distribution).

Fair enough. Having two updates within 10 days of a major release seems
unusual.

> Some parts of the code may have been frozen earlier.

Maybe due to having to ship it with the new models.

> That week (or more) would have been used to develop the first bug fix
> release, which turned out to be ready two days later.
>
> I don't think Tuesdays are special. iOS 12 had updates on any weekday
> and the majority were on Mondays (US time).
>
>> A single fix to the sandbox:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT210624
>
> That is just the security fix. 13.1.1 includes several other documented
> bug fixes.
>
> - Fixes issues that could prevent iPhone/iPad restoring from backup
> - Addresses an issue that could cause battery to drain more quickly
> - Fixes an issue that could impact recognition of Siri requests on
> iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
> - Resolves a problem where Safari search suggestions may re-enable after
> turning them off
> - Addresses an issue that could cause Reminders to sync slowly
> - Fixes a security issue for third-party keyboard apps
>
> (The last is the same as the sandbox security fix.)

Thanks for the details.

[David Empson]

Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.
> >
> > Not surprising at all. The public release of 13.1 is equivalent to the
> > last beta which was a week earlier - that was effectively a gold master,
> > as 13.1 was the initial release of iPadOS 13 for iPads (including being
> > the version which needed to be installed on the initial batch of
> > 10.2-inch iPads that were in production and awaiting distribution).
>
> Fair enough. Having two updates within 10 days of a major release seems
> unusual.

Bug fixes within 10 days of a major release have been fairly common in
recent years. iOS 8, 9, 10 and 11 all had one by that point. iOS 12 was
better: the 12.0.1 update was three weeks later. iOS 7 had a bug fix the
same day and another after eight days.

It was unusual for 13.1 to be released so soon after 13.0, but that is
also explained by production schedules and some new features not being
ready in time. iOS 13.0 had to be frozen early enough to install on new
iPhone models in production (a much bigger task than for iPads), so the
iPhones could ship on schedule.

Evidence points to Apple freezing iOS 13.0 around late August. Apple
switched developer and public beta testing to iOS 13.1 on August 28.

iOS/iPadOS 13.1 had about three more weeks of testing after that point,
up to its last developer and public betas and probable freeze point for
new iPads in production.

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[Davoud]

Chris:

> New update. Seems a surprise so soon since 13.1 and not on a Tuesday.

Not a surprise to those who read newspapers or web news sites.

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[Ant]

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone David Empson <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
...

> > Fair enough. Having two updates within 10 days of a major release seems
> > unusual.

> Bug fixes within 10 days of a major release have been fairly common in
> recent years. iOS 8, 9, 10 and 11 all had one by that point. iOS 12 was
> better: the 12.0.1 update was three weeks later. iOS 7 had a bug fix the
> same day and another after eight days.

> It was unusual for 13.1 to be released so soon after 13.0, but that is
> also explained by production schedules and some new features not being
> ready in time. iOS 13.0 had to be frozen early enough to install on new
> iPhone models in production (a much bigger task than for iPads), so the
> iPhones could ship on schedule.

> Evidence points to Apple freezing iOS 13.0 around late August. Apple
> switched developer and public beta testing to iOS 13.1 on August 28.

> iOS/iPadOS 13.1 had about three more weeks of testing after that point,
> up to its last developer and public betas and probable freeze point for
> new iPads in production.

Also, this is not just with Apple. Other companies too.
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