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Deleting 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders from iPhone 7, via Computer Didn't Work
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sms
Aug 23, 2021, 11:44:01 AM8/23/21
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This morning I was copying all the photos and videos out of the DCIM
folder on an iPhone 7. The phone was plugged into a Windows 10 laptop.
When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
removed.
It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
folder on an iPhone 7. The phone was plugged into a Windows 10 laptop.
When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
removed.
It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 11:58:00 AM8/23/21
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In article <sg0fo0$gmt$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
alone.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
> and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
> iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
> removed.
>
> It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
> it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
> try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
> I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
there's no reason to do that and every reason to leave it the fuck
> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
> and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
> iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
> removed.
>
> It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
> it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
> try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
> I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
alone.
Joerg Lorenz
Aug 23, 2021, 12:42:24 PM8/23/21
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Am 23.08.21 um 17:43 schrieb sms:
How stupid must you be to try that?
There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
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There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
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Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 1:18:05 PM8/23/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
As you're finding out, Apple limits almost everything you'd want to do.
What I do successfully with my iPads is delete those idiotic and certainly
unnecessary series of redundant sub folders by plugging the USB to Linux.
Linux not only accesses the entire iOS file system but it allows read/write.
Windows won't, and if you install iTunes, you end up having less (not more).
> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> would not allow the folders to be removed.
Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> would not allow the folders to be removed.
Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
As you're finding out, Apple limits almost everything you'd want to do.
What I do successfully with my iPads is delete those idiotic and certainly
unnecessary series of redundant sub folders by plugging the USB to Linux.
Linux not only accesses the entire iOS file system but it allows read/write.
Windows won't, and if you install iTunes, you end up having less (not more).
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 1:26:06 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg0l8b$1iqh$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
some cameras create new folders every 100 photos and others every 1000
photos.
you continue to demonstrate your stupidity with every post, arlen.
<https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/1300277>
I'ved noticed when I removed my Compact Flash card from my
Canon Rebel EX and inserted into my PC Compacf flash slot, I
noticed on the monitor screen, after clicking COMPACTFlash,
Canon 100, Canon 101, and Canon 102.
I removed my pictures from Canon 102, and than I found out
I also had some past digital pics that I thought I loss in Canon 101.
Can anyone tell me what is Canon 100, 101, and 102?
..
These are just the names the camera gives to the folders in which it
organises your pictures. Every 100 pictures a new folder is created.
Some people are annoyed by this behavior of the camera, but once
you know what it's doing, you know to copy pictures from all the
folders to your computer.
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> > When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
> > computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> > all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> > would not allow the folders to be removed.
>
> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
> > When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
> > computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
> > all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
> > would not allow the folders to be removed.
>
> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
some cameras create new folders every 100 photos and others every 1000
photos.
you continue to demonstrate your stupidity with every post, arlen.
<https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/1300277>
I'ved noticed when I removed my Compact Flash card from my
Canon Rebel EX and inserted into my PC Compacf flash slot, I
noticed on the monitor screen, after clicking COMPACTFlash,
Canon 100, Canon 101, and Canon 102.
I removed my pictures from Canon 102, and than I found out
I also had some past digital pics that I thought I loss in Canon 101.
Can anyone tell me what is Canon 100, 101, and 102?
..
These are just the names the camera gives to the folders in which it
organises your pictures. Every 100 pictures a new folder is created.
Some people are annoyed by this behavior of the camera, but once
you know what it's doing, you know to copy pictures from all the
folders to your computer.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 3:11:40 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
In Android there is generally the following sensible folder hierarchy:
DCIM/Camera/{photos}
I have _multiple_ Camera ports and they _still_ create sensible names.
The OP has every right to want to delete idiotically named Apple folders.
> some cameras create new folders every 100 photos and others every 1000
> photos.
The OP clearly stated he didn't want the Apple idiotic folders.
The OP has the right to remove those folders Apple idiotically created.
I told the OP how to remove the idiotic folders that Apple created.
Most iOS owners would never see these idiotically named folders.
That's because most iOS owners are completely clueless how things work.
Most owners do EXACTLY what Apple tells them to using only Apple tools.
Tools like iTunes bloatware (which, if you install it, actually reduces the
functionality of file copies between the iOS device & Windows over USB).
There's a reason Apple deprecated iTunes on every platform except Windows.
(And on Windows Apple _stopped_ testing iTunes for zero-day holes long ago.)
>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>
> they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
>
> they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
In Android there is generally the following sensible folder hierarchy:
DCIM/Camera/{photos}
I have _multiple_ Camera ports and they _still_ create sensible names.
The OP has every right to want to delete idiotically named Apple folders.
> some cameras create new folders every 100 photos and others every 1000
> photos.
The OP has the right to remove those folders Apple idiotically created.
I told the OP how to remove the idiotic folders that Apple created.
Most iOS owners would never see these idiotically named folders.
That's because most iOS owners are completely clueless how things work.
Most owners do EXACTLY what Apple tells them to using only Apple tools.
Tools like iTunes bloatware (which, if you install it, actually reduces the
functionality of file copies between the iOS device & Windows over USB).
There's a reason Apple deprecated iTunes on every platform except Windows.
(And on Windows Apple _stopped_ testing iTunes for zero-day holes long ago.)
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 3:34:40 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 12:11 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
>>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>>
>> they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
>
> What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
I don't mind the iPhone creating those folders to prevent too many
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
>>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>>
>> they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
>
> What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
photos in a single folder, but it's odd that once the contents of the
folders are removed that the folders can't be removed, or the folders
can't just be deleted with the contents still in them.
Chris
Aug 23, 2021, 4:55:09 PM8/23/21
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Robin Goodfellow <Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
>> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
>> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
>> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
>> would not allow the folders to be removed.
>
> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
>> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
>> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
>> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
>> would not allow the folders to be removed.
>
> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
comply with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 5:26:17 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg0rta$rkb$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
all digital cameras do that due to limitations in the file system.
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
they do if you shoot enough photos.
> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
all digital cameras do that due to limitations in the file system.
Joerg Lorenz
Aug 23, 2021, 5:32:43 PM8/23/21
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Am 23.08.21 um 22:55 schrieb Chris:
> Robin Goodfellow <Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>
> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
Only ignorants forcefully want to delete system-folders. ;-)
>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>
> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 5:48:00 PM8/23/21
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Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> asked
>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>
> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
> comply with.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
Are you seriously claiming Android phone photo folders are _not_ of the form
/DCIM/Camera/{photos]
trying to claim that Android photo folders aren't commonly of the form
/DCIM/Camera/{photos]
Besides, Android lets you _delete_ those folders.
The OP is saying that Apple won't.
You say I'm ignorant even though I know more than you do.
You say I'm ignorant even though I gave the OP a working solution.
What's your solution for the OP to do what the OP wants to do?
Or, are you also ignorant of that too?
>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>
> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
> comply with.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
/DCIM/Camera/{photos]
>
>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>
> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
You're right that it's you who is being ignorant here if you are seriously
>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>
> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
trying to claim that Android photo folders aren't commonly of the form
/DCIM/Camera/{photos]
Besides, Android lets you _delete_ those folders.
The OP is saying that Apple won't.
You say I'm ignorant even though I know more than you do.
You say I'm ignorant even though I gave the OP a working solution.
What's your solution for the OP to do what the OP wants to do?
Or, are you also ignorant of that too?
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 5:51:18 PM8/23/21
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Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> asked
(That's because people arrange Android folders as they see fit.)
On iOS, there are none.
What does that tell you about the difference in capability and flexibility?
>> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
>
> Only ignorants forcefully want to delete system-folders. ;-)
On Android, there are a hundred ways to arrange Camera folders.
>
> Only ignorants forcefully want to delete system-folders. ;-)
(That's because people arrange Android folders as they see fit.)
On iOS, there are none.
What does that tell you about the difference in capability and flexibility?
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 5:57:53 PM8/23/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
Most Apple users don't know about these idiotically named folders because
Apple users tend to be on the low end of the technology scale, mainly
because Apple owners tend to do things only the Apple prescribed way.
On Android you can set up _any_ folder hierarchy you want for your Camera.
(At least any decent Camera app will let _you_ choose the hierarchy.)
You can even put the Camera folders on the sdcard with a decent Camera app.
With iOS you lack all those hundreds of choices that Android gives you.
Certainly if the idiotically named iOS Camera folder is empty you should be
able to delete it. I delete them all the time using the way I described.
>> What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
>> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
>
> I don't mind the iPhone creating those folders to prevent too many
> photos in a single folder, but it's odd that once the contents of the
> folders are removed that the folders can't be removed, or the folders
> can't just be deleted with the contents still in them.
I agree with & understand your desire as I delete idiotic Apple folders too.
>> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
>
> I don't mind the iPhone creating those folders to prevent too many
> photos in a single folder, but it's odd that once the contents of the
> folders are removed that the folders can't be removed, or the folders
> can't just be deleted with the contents still in them.
Most Apple users don't know about these idiotically named folders because
Apple users tend to be on the low end of the technology scale, mainly
because Apple owners tend to do things only the Apple prescribed way.
On Android you can set up _any_ folder hierarchy you want for your Camera.
(At least any decent Camera app will let _you_ choose the hierarchy.)
You can even put the Camera folders on the sdcard with a decent Camera app.
With iOS you lack all those hundreds of choices that Android gives you.
Certainly if the idiotically named iOS Camera folder is empty you should be
able to delete it. I delete them all the time using the way I described.
Ant
Aug 23, 2021, 5:59:25 PM8/23/21
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Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:03:00 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
photos are saved to by any Camera app you install, but the good Camera apps
allow to you set the file name such that all names are informative & unique
(for example, you can use the unique time & date stamp) when they're saved.
Do you have that power and flexibility that many Android apps have, on iOS?
>> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
>
> they do if you shoot enough photos.
>
> all digital cameras do that due to limitations in the file system.
On Android, the good apps let you choose not only the folder hierarchy that
>
> they do if you shoot enough photos.
>
> all digital cameras do that due to limitations in the file system.
photos are saved to by any Camera app you install, but the good Camera apps
allow to you set the file name such that all names are informative & unique
(for example, you can use the unique time & date stamp) when they're saved.
Do you have that power and flexibility that many Android apps have, on iOS?
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 6:06:48 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
<snip>
> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
> comply with.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
system reset). I saw one answer: "iOS does not allow you to delete them,
therefore Windows shows an error message,"
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/383294/how-could-i-delete-dcim-sub-folders-in-iphone>.
The folders don't hurt anything by being there. The only annoyance was
that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
<snip>
> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
> comply with.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
system reset). I saw one answer: "iOS does not allow you to delete them,
therefore Windows shows an error message,"
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/383294/how-could-i-delete-dcim-sub-folders-in-iphone>.
The folders don't hurt anything by being there. The only annoyance was
that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:06:51 PM8/23/21
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> asked
outside of what Apple told you to do, it will likely destroy the iPhone.
In fact, just to _want_ to do something outside of what Apple tells you to
do, will destroy the iPhone (as in this case), according to Joerg Lorenz.
There should be no desire outside of the way Apple tells you to do things.
>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
What Joerg Lorenz was likely saying was that if you try to do anything
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
outside of what Apple told you to do, it will likely destroy the iPhone.
In fact, just to _want_ to do something outside of what Apple tells you to
do, will destroy the iPhone (as in this case), according to Joerg Lorenz.
There should be no desire outside of the way Apple tells you to do things.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:15:33 PM8/23/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos?
Many people have asked the same question of iOS.
https://www.google.com/search?q=delete+apple101+folder+ios
Hundreds of people added to the count when it was asked of Apple.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222
Many others asked elsewhere how to delete the idiotically named folders.
https://helpdesk.macroplant.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018857254-How-to-delete-all-photos-from-an-iPhone-or-iPad
https://www.eehelp.com/question/delete-the-dcim-subfolders-100apple-folder/
https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/aru4sm/get_rid_of_101apple_folders/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/too-many-picture-folders-under-dcim.1961212/
https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com/gLcHigHu/is-there-a-way-not-to-have-these-huge-100apple100-101apple-dcim-directories
On Android, there would be so many ways that you wouldn't need to ask.
This is yet another case of Apple telling you their one & only way to do it.
Which is that you can't.
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos?
Many people have asked the same question of iOS.
https://www.google.com/search?q=delete+apple101+folder+ios
Hundreds of people added to the count when it was asked of Apple.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222
Many others asked elsewhere how to delete the idiotically named folders.
https://helpdesk.macroplant.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018857254-How-to-delete-all-photos-from-an-iPhone-or-iPad
https://www.eehelp.com/question/delete-the-dcim-subfolders-100apple-folder/
https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/aru4sm/get_rid_of_101apple_folders/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/too-many-picture-folders-under-dcim.1961212/
https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com/gLcHigHu/is-there-a-way-not-to-have-these-huge-100apple100-101apple-dcim-directories
On Android, there would be so many ways that you wouldn't need to ask.
This is yet another case of Apple telling you their one & only way to do it.
Which is that you can't.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 6:21:12 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg165m$q06$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
>
> The folders don't hurt anything by being there.
exactly the point.
> The only annoyance was
> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
user error.
there is no need to individually go into each subfolder for any digital
camera to transfer photos.
the easiest method is to set up automatic transfer, then connect the
camera and let the computer do the work for you.
even easier is via the cloud but that won't work for traditional
cameras.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
> from?
nothing. just ignore it.
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
> from?
>
> The folders don't hurt anything by being there.
> The only annoyance was
> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
there is no need to individually go into each subfolder for any digital
camera to transfer photos.
the easiest method is to set up automatic transfer, then connect the
camera and let the computer do the work for you.
even easier is via the cloud but that won't work for traditional
cameras.
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 6:28:48 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 2:59 PM, Ant wrote:
> Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>> Am 23.08.21 um 17:43 schrieb sms:
>>> This morning I was copying all the photos and videos out of the DCIM
>>> folder on an iPhone 7. The phone was plugged into a Windows 10 laptop.
>>>
>>> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
>>> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
>>> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
>>> would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
>>> and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
>>> iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
>>> removed.
>>>
>>> It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
>>> it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
>>> try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
>>> I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
>
>
>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
LOL. Joerg is wrong of course™.
> Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>> Am 23.08.21 um 17:43 schrieb sms:
>>> This morning I was copying all the photos and videos out of the DCIM
>>> folder on an iPhone 7. The phone was plugged into a Windows 10 laptop.
>>>
>>> When I was done copying everything to the computer, I tried, from the
>>> computer, to delete the 100APPLE, 100CLOUD, 101APPLE folders to remove
>>> all the photos and videos from the iPhone. It didn't work, the iPhone
>>> would not allow the folders to be removed. I had to go into each folder,
>>> and remove the files in each one. Even when the folders were empty, the
>>> iPhone would not allow the three folders under the DCIM folder to be
>>> removed.
>>>
>>> It's no big deal, but was there a way to remove those folders by doing
>>> it on the phone since I could not do it from the computer? I couldn't
>>> try it on the phone because my wife was answering calls at the same time
>>> I was on the computer deleting the content in each of the DCIM sub-folders.
>
>
>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
The reason that I tried to delete those three folders was because I
wanted to delete all the photos on the device after I had copied them
over to a computer. Since that kind of deletion is not permitted, I had
to go into each folder, select all the files in the folder, and delete
those files, with the empty folders remaining. Not a big deal, just odd,
and a minor annoyance. If I'd have had a large number of photo folders
it would have been more of an annoyance.
Normally, a file system on a camera or an Android device allows you to
delete folders under the DCIM directory, along with all their contents.
Of course it doesn't destroy the device. Then the camera or the phone
recreates those folders, as needed.
It's odd that Jorge believes that deleting folders, that the phone
created as photos were taken, would destroy a device. But most of us
here have long since given up trying to understand why he says what he
says and if he really believes his own words. It's like the My Pillow
guy that doesn't really believe that the election was stolen, but
somehow feels compelled to keep insisting that it was.
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 6:38:14 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 3:15 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
>> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos?
>
> Many people have asked the same question of iOS.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=delete+apple101+folder+ios
>
> Hundreds of people added to the count when it was asked of Apple.
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222
Yeah, the person at <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222> had
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
>> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos?
>
> Many people have asked the same question of iOS.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=delete+apple101+folder+ios
>
> Hundreds of people added to the count when it was asked of Apple.
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222
265 folders in the DCIM folder. To go into all 265 of those, select all
the photos in each one, then delete them, would have been a big task.
Apparently there actually is a way to remove the folders, and the
contents, but you have to Jailbreak your device to do so, see
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/187797/how-do-i-delete-empty-dcim-folders-from-my-iphone>
(presumably you can also remove non-empty folders): "If your iDevice is
jailbroken you can install iFile from Cydia in that device and then you
will be able to access the file system directly. In
/var/mobile/Media/DCIM there are empty folders that you mentioned. You
can delete them manually (rmdir empty_folder_name)."
If you're getting ready to decommission a phone I guess you could do a
system reset which would accomplish removing all the old photos and
folders.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 6:43:22 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg17ev$23n$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> LOL. sms is wrong of course .
ftfy
> The reason that I tried to delete those three folders was because I
> wanted to delete all the photos on the device after I had copied them
> over to a computer. Since that kind of deletion is not permitted,
nonsense.
> I had
> to go into each folder, select all the files in the folder, and delete
> those files, with the empty folders remaining. Not a big deal, just odd,
> and a minor annoyance. If I'd have had a large number of photo folders
> it would have been more of an annoyance.
also wrong.
> But most of us
> here have long since given up trying to understand why he says what he
> says and if he really believes his own words. It's like the My Pillow
> guy that doesn't really believe that the election was stolen, but
> somehow feels compelled to keep insisting that it was.
you're talking about yourself.
you know what you're saying is wrong and do so just to troll.
the only difference between you and mike lindell is that he's been sued
for his bullshit, which will result in him owing a *lot* of money.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> LOL. sms is wrong of course .
ftfy
> The reason that I tried to delete those three folders was because I
> wanted to delete all the photos on the device after I had copied them
> over to a computer. Since that kind of deletion is not permitted,
> I had
> to go into each folder, select all the files in the folder, and delete
> those files, with the empty folders remaining. Not a big deal, just odd,
> and a minor annoyance. If I'd have had a large number of photo folders
> it would have been more of an annoyance.
> But most of us
> here have long since given up trying to understand why he says what he
> says and if he really believes his own words. It's like the My Pillow
> guy that doesn't really believe that the election was stolen, but
> somehow feels compelled to keep insisting that it was.
you know what you're saying is wrong and do so just to troll.
the only difference between you and mike lindell is that he's been sued
for his bullshit, which will result in him owing a *lot* of money.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 6:43:23 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg180l$5cm$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> Apparently there actually is a way to remove the folders, and the
> contents, but you have to Jailbreak your device to do so,
nonsense. there is no need to jailbreak.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, the person at <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222> had
> 265 folders in the DCIM folder. To go into all 265 of those, select all
> the photos in each one, then delete them, would have been a big task.
not for anyone with a clue, it wouldn't.
> Yeah, the person at <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222> had
> 265 folders in the DCIM folder. To go into all 265 of those, select all
> the photos in each one, then delete them, would have been a big task.
> Apparently there actually is a way to remove the folders, and the
> contents, but you have to Jailbreak your device to do so,
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:45:49 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
On Android you could do almost anything you want to do with any DCIM folder.
Why is your answer always that you must do things only the Apple way (where
the Apple Way is to not do what you want to do because you can't do it)?
>> The folders don't hurt anything by being there.
>
> exactly the point.
Actually, they clutter up your file system, and worse, when the _next_ photo
is snapped, are you sure _where_ it will go?
That is, if you leave those idiotically named empty Apple100 to Apple 109,
dirs, does the _next_ photo that you snap go into Apple100 or into Apple109
or into Apple110?
>> The only annoyance was
>> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
>> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
>> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
>> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
>
> user error.
>
> there is no need to individually go into each subfolder for any digital
> camera to transfer photos.
In other words, what you commonly do on all operating systems _except_ iOS
won't work because Apple wants you to do things only the way Apple says to.
> the easiest method is to set up automatic transfer, then connect the
> camera and let the computer do the work for you.
Why is it that what everyone does on all other operating systems won't work
on iOS, which is to copy the photos the way _you_ want to copy them?
Why must it always be the Apple way or the highway with all things on iOS?
> even easier is via the cloud but that won't work for traditional
> cameras.
Why is iOS so brain dead that it can't move photos 3 feet without the cloud?
>> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
>> from?
>
> nothing. just ignore it.
Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
>> from?
>
> nothing. just ignore it.
On Android you could do almost anything you want to do with any DCIM folder.
Why is your answer always that you must do things only the Apple way (where
the Apple Way is to not do what you want to do because you can't do it)?
>> The folders don't hurt anything by being there.
>
> exactly the point.
is snapped, are you sure _where_ it will go?
That is, if you leave those idiotically named empty Apple100 to Apple 109,
dirs, does the _next_ photo that you snap go into Apple100 or into Apple109
or into Apple110?
>> The only annoyance was
>> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
>> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
>> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
>> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
>
> user error.
>
> there is no need to individually go into each subfolder for any digital
> camera to transfer photos.
won't work because Apple wants you to do things only the way Apple says to.
> the easiest method is to set up automatic transfer, then connect the
> camera and let the computer do the work for you.
on iOS, which is to copy the photos the way _you_ want to copy them?
Why must it always be the Apple way or the highway with all things on iOS?
> even easier is via the cloud but that won't work for traditional
> cameras.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 6:51:41 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg18er$41j$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
can be configured to happen automatically.
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
>
> Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
only you can't.
>
> Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
can be configured to happen automatically.
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 6:51:49 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 3:06 PM, sms wrote:
<snip>
> The folders don't hurt anything by being there. The only annoyance was
> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
<snip>
> The folders don't hurt anything by being there. The only annoyance was
> that instead of removing all the photos by just deleting the three
> folders I had to go into each folder individually, select all the
> photos, then do a delete. If there had been a lot more than just three
> folders then it would have been more of a hassle.
of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:51:59 PM8/23/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> asked
> Yeah, the person at <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222> had
> 265 folders in the DCIM folder. To go into all 265 of those, select all
> the photos in each one, then delete them, would have been a big task.
Been there. Done that.
I never fail but I don't do things _only_ the way Apple says to do them.
The Apple way is usually the most limited, so I do it the right way.
If you do them only the way Apple says, you'll almost always fail.
Because you can't.
But with Linux, you can. Easily. All native. Nothing extra to add.
You just connect any iOS device to native Ubuntu & it just works.
You can move or delete (read and write) anything in the iOS DCIM folder.
> If you're getting ready to decommission a phone I guess you could do a
> system reset which would accomplish removing all the old photos and
> folders.
Have you noticed that not only does iOS idiotically name the _folders_, but
also the photo files themselves?
While Android can give the photos meaningful names based on unique time
stamps or locations, the iOS photo names I've seen are also idiotic.
Classic Apple.
There's only one way to do anything - and it's the way Apple says to do it.
> Yeah, the person at <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7458222> had
> 265 folders in the DCIM folder. To go into all 265 of those, select all
> the photos in each one, then delete them, would have been a big task.
I never fail but I don't do things _only_ the way Apple says to do them.
The Apple way is usually the most limited, so I do it the right way.
If you do them only the way Apple says, you'll almost always fail.
Because you can't.
But with Linux, you can. Easily. All native. Nothing extra to add.
You just connect any iOS device to native Ubuntu & it just works.
You can move or delete (read and write) anything in the iOS DCIM folder.
> If you're getting ready to decommission a phone I guess you could do a
> system reset which would accomplish removing all the old photos and
> folders.
also the photo files themselves?
While Android can give the photos meaningful names based on unique time
stamps or locations, the iOS photo names I've seen are also idiotic.
Classic Apple.
There's only one way to do anything - and it's the way Apple says to do it.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 6:56:01 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
Meanwhile I've done it many times because I have full read/write access to
the iOS file system under the common directories such as the DCIM hierarchy.
What's amazing about you is how little you know about the iOS file system.
>> Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
>
> only you can't.
>
> everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
> can be configured to happen automatically.
And yet sms asked you twice already and you clearly said you can't do it.
>
> only you can't.
>
> everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
> can be configured to happen automatically.
Meanwhile I've done it many times because I have full read/write access to
the iOS file system under the common directories such as the DCIM hierarchy.
What's amazing about you is how little you know about the iOS file system.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 7:07:59 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg18qe$7rh$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> I never fail
yes you do, in everything you do.
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> I never fail
yes you do, in everything you do.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 7:08:00 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg191v$a64$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> >> Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
> >
> > only you can't.
> >
> > everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
> > can be configured to happen automatically.
>
> And yet sms asked you twice already and you clearly said you can't do it.
i did not say that.
> >> Why is your answer always that you can't do what you want to do on iOS?
> >
> > only you can't.
> >
> > everyone else easily can. deleting photos is one of the easiest, since
> > can be configured to happen automatically.
>
> And yet sms asked you twice already and you clearly said you can't do it.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 7:22:19 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
The entire DCIM folder is completely read/write to/from Windows by the
method I use which is to connect to a dual-boot Linux/Windows over USB.
No software needed (all native) and especially no iTunes bloatware.
In fact, if you add iTunes, you _lose_ some functionality you have native.
That observation bears repeating.
*If you use the Apple method, you actually _lose_ functionality.*
>> I never fail
>
> yes you do, in everything you do.
And yet you can't do it at all and I've _easily_ done it very many times.
>
> yes you do, in everything you do.
The entire DCIM folder is completely read/write to/from Windows by the
method I use which is to connect to a dual-boot Linux/Windows over USB.
No software needed (all native) and especially no iTunes bloatware.
In fact, if you add iTunes, you _lose_ some functionality you have native.
That observation bears repeating.
*If you use the Apple method, you actually _lose_ functionality.*
sms
Aug 23, 2021, 7:25:16 PM8/23/21
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On 8/23/2021 10:18 AM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
<snip>
> Linux not only accesses the entire iOS file system but it allows read/write.
> Windows won't, and if you install iTunes, you end up having less (not more).
At least in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, you can't delete those folders and their
contents either. I just tried. And unlike in Windows 10, you also can't
even delete the individual files within those folders.
I think that if you want to do this you have to Jailbreak. Or perhaps
some other version of Linux would work, but I think that that is unlikely.
I added this as #106 to the document.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
26 iOS Features Some of Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had
106 Android Features Some of Which [many] iOS Users Wish they Had
<https://tinyurl.com/fzje7h9e> or
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE>
38 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations
✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<snip>
> Linux not only accesses the entire iOS file system but it allows read/write.
> Windows won't, and if you install iTunes, you end up having less (not more).
At least in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, you can't delete those folders and their
contents either. I just tried. And unlike in Windows 10, you also can't
even delete the individual files within those folders.
I think that if you want to do this you have to Jailbreak. Or perhaps
some other version of Linux would work, but I think that that is unlikely.
I added this as #106 to the document.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
26 iOS Features Some of Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had
106 Android Features Some of Which [many] iOS Users Wish they Had
<https://tinyurl.com/fzje7h9e> or
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE>
38 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations
✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 7:31:58 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg1aj9$q3o$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow
do, despite that it's not needed and a waste of time.
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> The entire DCIM folder is completely read/write to/from Windows by the
> method I use which is to connect to a dual-boot Linux/Windows over USB.
by your own admission, apple is *not* preventing doing what you want to
> The entire DCIM folder is completely read/write to/from Windows by the
> method I use which is to connect to a dual-boot Linux/Windows over USB.
do, despite that it's not needed and a waste of time.
nospam
Aug 23, 2021, 7:31:59 PM8/23/21
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In article <sg1aor$k7b$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
> I think that if you want to do this you have to Jailbreak. Or perhaps
> some other version of Linux would work, but I think that that is unlikely.
you think wrong, or more accurately, not at all.
> I added this as #106 to the document.
of course you have.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> At least in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, you can't delete those folders and their
> contents either. I just tried. And unlike in Windows 10, you also can't
> even delete the individual files within those folders.
user error.
>
> At least in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, you can't delete those folders and their
> contents either. I just tried. And unlike in Windows 10, you also can't
> even delete the individual files within those folders.
> I think that if you want to do this you have to Jailbreak. Or perhaps
> some other version of Linux would work, but I think that that is unlikely.
> I added this as #106 to the document.
Robin Goodfellow
Aug 23, 2021, 7:39:24 PM8/23/21
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
the death, the more childishly predictable nospam becomes (e.g., ftfy).
>> LOL. sms is wrong of course .
>
> ftfy
The more desperate nospam is in defending Apple's lack of functionality to
>
> ftfy
the death, the more childishly predictable nospam becomes (e.g., ftfy).
Joerg Lorenz
Aug 24, 2021, 2:26:46 AM8/24/21
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Am 23.08.21 um 23:59 schrieb Ant:
on a mobile device. My answer was just a sarcastic answer to sms who
makes himself a total fool and Troll in this group.
--
De gustibus non est disputandum
> Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
You are asking the wrong person. I do not try to delete system-folders
>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>
> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
on a mobile device. My answer was just a sarcastic answer to sms who
makes himself a total fool and Troll in this group.
--
De gustibus non est disputandum
Zaidy036
Aug 24, 2021, 2:28:10 AM8/24/21
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delete all photos. One can also rename as they are copied.
--
Zaidy036
Joerg Lorenz
Aug 24, 2021, 2:28:57 AM8/24/21
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Am 24.08.21 um 00:06 schrieb Robin Goodfellow:
> In fact, just to _want_ to do something outside of what Apple tells you to
> do, will destroy the iPhone (as in this case), according to Joerg Lorenz.
>
> There should be no desire outside of the way Apple tells you to do things.
This is a group for adults not Trolls, Arlen.
> Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> asked
>>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>>
>> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
>
> What Joerg Lorenz was likely saying was that if you try to do anything
> outside of what Apple told you to do, it will likely destroy the iPhone.
Good morning Arlen/Newton/Ragnussen/paul/
>>> How stupid must you be to try that?
>>> There is no reason on earth to do that except to destroy the device.
>>> Take a hammer and destroy the iPhone7, period.
>>
>> Why destroy a perfectly working iPhone?
>
> What Joerg Lorenz was likely saying was that if you try to do anything
> outside of what Apple told you to do, it will likely destroy the iPhone.
> In fact, just to _want_ to do something outside of what Apple tells you to
> do, will destroy the iPhone (as in this case), according to Joerg Lorenz.
>
> There should be no desire outside of the way Apple tells you to do things.
Chris
Aug 24, 2021, 3:17:01 AM8/24/21
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Robin Goodfellow <Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> asked
>
>>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
> /DCIM/Camera/{photos]
Nope. That isn't what I'm claiming either seriously or comically.
If that's what they do then it's non-compliant with the DCF standard.
>>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>>
>> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
>
> You're right that it's you who is being ignorant here if you are seriously
> trying to claim that Android photo folders aren't commonly of the form
> /DCIM/Camera/{photos]
>
> Besides, Android lets you _delete_ those folders.
> The OP is saying that Apple won't.
>
> You say I'm ignorant even though I know more than you do.
> You say I'm ignorant even though I gave the OP a working solution.
>
> What's your solution for the OP to do what the OP wants to do?
> Or, are you also ignorant of that too?
There's no solution. He can't delete those folders. End of story.
> Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> asked
>
>>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>>
>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>> comply with.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>
> Are you seriously claiming Android phone photo folders are _not_ of the form
>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>> comply with.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>
> /DCIM/Camera/{photos]
Nope. That isn't what I'm claiming either seriously or comically.
If that's what they do then it's non-compliant with the DCF standard.
>>> Most iOS owners are blissfully unaware of Apple's folder design idiocy.
>>> That ignorant bliss is because most Apple do things only Apple's way.
>>
>> Apple isn't the one being ignorant, here.
>
> You're right that it's you who is being ignorant here if you are seriously
> trying to claim that Android photo folders aren't commonly of the form
> /DCIM/Camera/{photos]
>
> Besides, Android lets you _delete_ those folders.
> The OP is saying that Apple won't.
>
> You say I'm ignorant even though I know more than you do.
> You say I'm ignorant even though I gave the OP a working solution.
>
> What's your solution for the OP to do what the OP wants to do?
> Or, are you also ignorant of that too?
There's no solution. He can't delete those folders. End of story.
Chris
Aug 24, 2021, 3:21:56 AM8/24/21
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/2021 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>> comply with.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
> from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
> system reset).
I mean ctrl+A and then Delete is not that hard, is it?
> On 8/23/2021 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>> comply with.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>
> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
> from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
> system reset).
That's also part of the standard. See this bit:
"The DCF standard defines that the "Read Only" file and directory attribute
of FAT file systems can be used to protect files or directories from
accidental deletion. "
Chris
Aug 24, 2021, 3:21:56 AM8/24/21
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mountain out of molehill.
sms
Aug 24, 2021, 4:19:16 AM8/24/21
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Let's say you had 100APPLE, 101APPLE, ... 150APPLE, all full. If you
went and deleted some or all of the photos from 101APPLE, would the
phone then go back and add new photos to 101APPLE until it was full
again, then jump to 151APPLE? This would not make sense since you'd
think that it would want to keep the folders in chronological order.
I'd rather have the phone create a new folder, with a name based on the
date, for each day you take photos.
But..., surprisingly, at least on the iPhone Xr, when I deleted all the
photos from 100APPLE, and could not delete the folder, when I unplugged
and plugged the phone into the computer, the folder no longer appeared.
So apparently, somewhere along the way of iOS updates, they decided that
empty photo folders should be removed upon reconnection.
Not sure what happens if you have 100APPLE and 101APPLE partially full
and delete all the photos from 100APPLE. Does the phone recreate
100APPLE and immediately start putting new photos there until it's full
then go back and fill 101APPLE? Or does it just keep filling 101APPLE
then create 102APPLE, figuring that it would be confusing to have
folders not in chronological order?
sms
Aug 24, 2021, 4:22:32 AM8/24/21
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On 8/24/2021 12:21 AM, Chris wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/23/2021 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>>> comply with.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>>
>> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
>> from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
>> system reset).
>
> I mean ctrl+A and then Delete is not that hard, is it?
Huh? That doesn't do anything. At least not in Windows 10.
>> On 8/23/2021 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> It's part of the DCF standard that all digital cameras (incl. smartphones)
>>> comply with.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_system
>>
>> So what do you do to remove a folder that you've deleted all the photos
>> from? It appears to not be possible (other than perhaps by doing a
>> system reset).
>
> I mean ctrl+A and then Delete is not that hard, is it?
sms
Aug 24, 2021, 4:33:48 AM8/24/21
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On 8/23/2021 11:28 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
<snip>
> Write a simple Windows batch file and all will be automatic copy then
> delete all photos. One can also rename as they are copied.
Yes, I thought of trying this but when you connect an iPhone in Windows
10 it doesn't get assigned a drive letter so I don't see how you can
create a batch file to do this. IIRC, in older versions of Windows any
device with storage that got attached via USB was automatically assigned
a drive letter.
<snip>
> Write a simple Windows batch file and all will be automatic copy then
> delete all photos. One can also rename as they are copied.
10 it doesn't get assigned a drive letter so I don't see how you can
create a batch file to do this. IIRC, in older versions of Windows any
device with storage that got attached via USB was automatically assigned
a drive letter.
Zaidy036
Aug 24, 2021, 5:27:38 AM8/24/21
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I am away with iPad but something like:
FOR /L %%F IN (100,1,199) DO (
If not exist .../DCIM/%%Fname/*.jpg goto _None
FORFILES .../DCIM/%%Fname /m @ext /c <move>
)
:_None
Echo <something>
Also may be able to delete all folders EXCEPT 100name
Can add rename using jpg meta data. New folders on PC could be by date jpg
taken.
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Zaidy036
Aug 24, 2021, 5:29:28 AM8/24/21
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Joerg Lorenz
Aug 24, 2021, 5:54:46 AM8/24/21
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Am 24.08.21 um 09:21 schrieb Chris:
That's the way sms handles his entire life ... from Touch-ID to
5G-coverage by Verizon or Deutsche Telekom.
I assume that he is at least as bored as Arlen.
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
>> of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
>> more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
>> starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
>> assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
>
> They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> mountain out of molehill.
You are absolutely right.
>> Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
>> of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
>> more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
>> starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
>> assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
>
> They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> mountain out of molehill.
That's the way sms handles his entire life ... from Touch-ID to
5G-coverage by Verizon or Deutsche Telekom.
I assume that he is at least as bored as Arlen.
nospam
Aug 24, 2021, 7:11:26 AM8/24/21
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In article <sg26mj$va3$2...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
> > of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
> > more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
> > starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
> > assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
>
> They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> mountain out of molehill.
it's deliberate trolling.
wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
> > of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
> > more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
> > starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
> > assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
>
> They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> mountain out of molehill.
nospam
Aug 24, 2021, 7:11:27 AM8/24/21
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In article <sg2a21$s06$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
> >> of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
> >> more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
> >> starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
> >> assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
> >
> > They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> > mountain out of molehill.
>
> I don't think so.
bullshit. you know full well what you're doing and it's obvious to
everyone.
> Let's say you had 100APPLE, 101APPLE, ... 150APPLE, all full. If you
> went and deleted some or all of the photos from 101APPLE, would the
> phone then go back and add new photos to 101APPLE until it was full
> again, then jump to 151APPLE? This would not make sense since you'd
> think that it would want to keep the folders in chronological order.
it does not matter, at all.
> I'd rather have the phone create a new folder, with a name based on the
> date, for each day you take photos.
that won't work because the namespace is limited. it's also redundant
since that is known via the file creation date, plus it's also in the
exif data.
> But..., surprisingly, at least on the iPhone Xr, when I deleted all the
> photos from 100APPLE, and could not delete the folder, when I unplugged
> and plugged the phone into the computer, the folder no longer appeared.
that's a lot of words to admit user error.
> So apparently, somewhere along the way of iOS updates, they decided that
> empty photo folders should be removed upon reconnection.
incorrect conclusion.
> Not sure what happens if you have 100APPLE and 101APPLE partially full
> and delete all the photos from 100APPLE. Does the phone recreate
> 100APPLE and immediately start putting new photos there until it's full
> then go back and fill 101APPLE? Or does it just keep filling 101APPLE
> then create 102APPLE, figuring that it would be confusing to have
> folders not in chronological order?
again, it does not matter.
the photos have unique names. the different folders are due to file
system limitations. the specific folder name does not matter.
this is not a new concept and not unique to apple. it applies to
*every* digital camera.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> Also, when you continue to take photos after you've deleted the contents
> >> of each of those 100APPLE...XYZAPPLE folders, and then begin to take
> >> more photos, do the new photos start to fill up the empty folders
> >> starting from 100APPLE? Or do they start at the highest numbered folder,
> >> assuming that all the lower number folders are full?
> >
> > They fill the existing folders first, as expected. You're honestly making a
> > mountain out of molehill.
>
> I don't think so.
everyone.
> Let's say you had 100APPLE, 101APPLE, ... 150APPLE, all full. If you
> went and deleted some or all of the photos from 101APPLE, would the
> phone then go back and add new photos to 101APPLE until it was full
> again, then jump to 151APPLE? This would not make sense since you'd
> think that it would want to keep the folders in chronological order.
> I'd rather have the phone create a new folder, with a name based on the
> date, for each day you take photos.
since that is known via the file creation date, plus it's also in the
exif data.
> But..., surprisingly, at least on the iPhone Xr, when I deleted all the
> photos from 100APPLE, and could not delete the folder, when I unplugged
> and plugged the phone into the computer, the folder no longer appeared.
> So apparently, somewhere along the way of iOS updates, they decided that
> empty photo folders should be removed upon reconnection.
> Not sure what happens if you have 100APPLE and 101APPLE partially full
> and delete all the photos from 100APPLE. Does the phone recreate
> 100APPLE and immediately start putting new photos there until it's full
> then go back and fill 101APPLE? Or does it just keep filling 101APPLE
> then create 102APPLE, figuring that it would be confusing to have
> folders not in chronological order?
the photos have unique names. the different folders are due to file
system limitations. the specific folder name does not matter.
this is not a new concept and not unique to apple. it applies to
*every* digital camera.
Lewis
Aug 24, 2021, 7:57:37 AM8/24/21
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In message <sg0t8f$n3c$1...@dont-email.me> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/2021 12:11 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
>> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
>>
>> What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
>> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
> I don't mind the iPhone creating those folders to prevent too many
> photos in a single folder, but it's odd that once the contents of the
> folders are removed that the folders can't be removed, or the folders
> can't just be deleted with the contents still in them.
Why is that odd. Apple uses the folders,
> On 8/23/2021 12:11 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
>> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
>>>> Only Apple would come up with such an idiotic set of redundant folders.
>>>
>>> they're not redundant and all digital cameras do that.
>>>
>>
>> What's obvious is how ignorant you prove to be on Android folders.
>> None of my Android phones create those Apple idiotic numerical folders.
> I don't mind the iPhone creating those folders to prevent too many
> photos in a single folder, but it's odd that once the contents of the
> folders are removed that the folders can't be removed, or the folders
> can't just be deleted with the contents still in them.
Why is that odd. Apple uses the folders,