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What's a good free bittorrent program for the iPad that will UPLOAD a personal torrent?

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Seamus Okafor

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Sep 4, 2014, 1:17:14 AM9/4/14
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What's a good free bittorrent program for the iPad that will UPLOAD a
personal torrent?

I use Transmission for my bittorrent program, but a friend with an iPad
asked me to show her how she could upload torrents on the iPad without
having to jailbreak it.

My friend's iPad Air is on iOS 7.1.1, and she told me it's asking her
to update to 7.1.2 and I told her to never update ever again (for the
obvious reasons you all already know).

Googling, I find that the sister app to Transmission is the iOS native
"iTransmission" app, but it seems to have been broken by Apple in iOS 7.1
update, so, had she never updated, that would have been a viable option:
http://7labs.heypub.com/mobile/iphone/ios-bittorrent-client.html

Even with the fateful update, breaking what was working before,
apparently, the Safari browser can be used to DOWNLOAD torrents, but,
Safari apparently won't work to UPLOAD her own personal torrent files:
http://www.cydiaos.com/download-torrents-on-ipad-without-jailbreak/

Googling more, I find more references to Safari to DOWNLOAD torrent
files, but that won't work to UPLOAD her own torrent creations:
http://www.maketecheasier.com/download-torrents-without-jailbreaking/

Searching more, it seems that Apple heartily approves torrent sites
such as Archive.org, Linuxtracker and Bitlove, and, that Apple approves
the Blue Downloader app, which is a good sign, but again, that's only for
DOWNLOADS, and not for uploading her own content:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-
iphone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios

Googling further, I see that she could jailbreak the iPad in order to
install Cydia in order to then add a real bittorrent app in order to
upload torrents.

But, maybe there is an easier, more straightforward way to UPLOAD
torrents from the iPad or iPhone?

Since I can't be the first person to advise someone how to UPLOAD torrent
files on the iPad, I ask for your advice, assuming you know more than
what I have posted above, since I, myself, have never UPLOADED a torrent.

What's a good free bittorrent program for the iPad that will UPLOAD a
personal torrent?

Your Name

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Sep 4, 2014, 2:22:05 AM9/4/14
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In article <lu8skp$f83$1...@solani.org>, Seamus Okafor
I may be wrong, but from what little I've bothered to work out about
Torrent, the users computer as a server, so to "upload a torrent" would
require using the iPad as a Torrent server ... something not possible
and rather silly to try to do.

I can't see why you would want to do that in the first place. An web
storage space makes much more sense, is much easier to use and deal
with, and doesn't waste your own internet bandwidth.

nospam

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Sep 4, 2014, 3:37:37 AM9/4/14
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In article <lu8skp$f83$1...@solani.org>, Seamus Okafor
<Seamus...@is.invalid> wrote:

> What's a good free bittorrent program for the iPad that will UPLOAD a
> personal torrent?

none.

> I use Transmission for my bittorrent program, but a friend with an iPad
> asked me to show her how she could upload torrents on the iPad without
> having to jailbreak it.

tell her to torrent on something else and not to pirate stuff.

> My friend's iPad Air is on iOS 7.1.1, and she told me it's asking her
> to update to 7.1.2 and I told her to never update ever again (for the
> obvious reasons you all already know).

is it jailbroken?

if not, there's no reason *not* to update.

Ned Turnbull

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:58:40 AM9/4/14
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 03:37:37 -0400, nospam wrote:

> tell her to torrent on something else and not to pirate stuff.

That's an idiotic comment.

It's like saying tell her not to be lesbian.

Just because *you* are (likely) not lesbian, why should you push your
particularly distorted set of morals upon another human being?

There are plenty of legal and illegal files available for download
on torrent, and you have just as much right to make that comment
as you would have if you said that gay people have no right to
practice non-missionary sex positions.

There are PLENTY of legal torrents. In fact, torrent sites are
expressly sanctioned by Apple themselves, not that anyone needs
Apple to sanction a site to make it legitimate.

Just as there are people who illegally have sex by raping, yet,
plenty of others have perfectly legitimate sex (whether you
approve of their style or not), your wholly biased and uneducated
statement above just makes you look like what you are.

And that is, in a word, stupid (or at least ignorant).

Message has been deleted

nospam

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Sep 4, 2014, 6:58:01 PM9/4/14
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In article <lu9r6g$bec$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ned Turnbull
<NedTu...@example.com> wrote:

> > tell her to torrent on something else and not to pirate stuff.
>
> That's an idiotic comment.

not at all.

the vast, vast majority of torrenting is for pirated content.

if legal torrenting is what she wants to do, then the torrent app that
apple approved will suffice. since it doesn't, it's clear what the
intent is.

Alphonse Arnaud

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Sep 4, 2014, 7:27:00 PM9/4/14
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nospam wrote, on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:58:01 -0400:

> the torrent app that apple approved will suffice

Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.

nospam

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Sep 4, 2014, 7:43:46 PM9/4/14
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In article <luasg4$q9q$1...@news.albasani.net>, Alphonse Arnaud
<Alphons...@aol.com> wrote:

> > the torrent app that apple approved will suffice
>
> Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.

<http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-ip
hone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios>
Blue Downloader is a BitTorrent app with restricted access for
downloading torrent files directly to iPhone and iPad. The catch? At
launch it was only torrent sites approved by the app that could be
accessed, but that's now changed allowing Google search making
anything accessible. Torrents can be downloaded via the app, which
costs �1.99.

Alphonse Arnaud

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Sep 4, 2014, 7:57:47 PM9/4/14
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nospam wrote, on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:43:46 -0400:

>> > the torrent app that apple approved will suffice
>>
>> Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.
>
> <http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-
iphone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios>

Let me make it more clear to you.

Apple doesn't approve any torrent *uploading* apps.

nospam

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Sep 4, 2014, 8:22:34 PM9/4/14
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In article <luau9r$smr$1...@news.albasani.net>, Alphonse Arnaud
<Alphons...@aol.com> wrote:

> >> > the torrent app that apple approved will suffice
> >>
> >> Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.
> >
> > <http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-
> iphone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios>
>
> Let me make it more clear to you.
>
> Apple doesn't approve any torrent *uploading* apps.

let me make it more clear to you: for legal torrenting, the above app
will suffice.

obviously, for pirating purposes, it will not, which is why such apps
are not approved.

Savageduck

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Sep 4, 2014, 8:45:19 PM9/4/14
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I suspect that what Alphonse is trying to get through to you is
"download" ≠ "upload". The "Blue Downloader" is a downloader only, not
one word of any "uploader" capability.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

nospam

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Sep 4, 2014, 8:52:53 PM9/4/14
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In article <2014090417451977266-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> >>>>> the torrent app that apple approved will suffice
> >>>>
> >>>> Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-
> >> iphone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios>
> >>
> >> Let me make it more clear to you.
> >>
> >> Apple doesn't approve any torrent *uploading* apps.
> >
> > let me make it more clear to you: for legal torrenting, the above app
> > will suffice.
> >
> > obviously, for pirating purposes, it will not, which is why such apps
> > are not approved.
>
> I suspect that what Alphonse is trying to get through to you is
> "download" � "upload". The "Blue Downloader" is a downloader only, not
> one word of any "uploader" capability.

i'm well aware of the difference between upload and download.

the issue is legal versus illegal.

a torrent app that could upload means anyone could upload anything,
namely content to which the user has no rights to distribute (and they
probably don't legally own it in the first place).

dorayme

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Sep 4, 2014, 8:53:37 PM9/4/14
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In article <2014090417451977266-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> I suspect that what Alphonse is trying to get through to you is
> "download" ≠ "upload". The "Blue Downloader" is a downloader only, not
> one word of any "uploader" capability.

Look, it has been made so clear that nospam, being as smart as he is,
would not miss this. He is choosing to ignore it. If you send me a
small $US amount, in plain brown nvelope, I will reveal why. <g>

--
dorayme

Alphonse Arnaud

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:08:35 PM9/4/14
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Savageduck wrote, on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:45:19 -0700:

> The "Blue Downloader" is a downloader only, not one word of any
> "uploader" capability.

Exactly.

Savageduck

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:09:21 PM9/4/14
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On 2014-09-05 00:52:53 +0000, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <2014090417451977266-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> the torrent app that apple approved will suffice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple doesn't approve *any* torrent uploading apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130290-torrents-finally-make-it-onto-
>>>> iphone-and-ipad-download-directly-to-ios>
>>>>
>>>> Let me make it more clear to you.
>>>>
>>>> Apple doesn't approve any torrent *uploading* apps.
>>>
>>> let me make it more clear to you: for legal torrenting, the above app
>>> will suffice.
>>>
>>> obviously, for pirating purposes, it will not, which is why such apps
>>> are not approved.
>>
>> I suspect that what Alphonse is trying to get through to you is
>> "download" ‚ "upload". The "Blue Downloader" is a downloader only, not
>> one word of any "uploader" capability.
>
> i'm well aware of the difference between upload and download.

Then why not answer; that to the best of your knowledge there is no
Apple approved UPLOADER app, rather than announcing a DOWNLOADER which
has no relevance to the question posed by the OP?

> the issue is legal versus illegal.

I have a feeling the majority of us in this room understand that much.

> a torrent app that could upload means anyone could upload anything,
> namely content to which the user has no rights to distribute (and they
> probably don't legally own it in the first place).

Now this isn't in anyway a loaded question; Did you not notice the word
"UPLOAD" in bold in the subject line?

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Regards,

Savageduck

Alphonse Arnaud

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:10:00 PM9/4/14
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dorayme wrote, on Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:53:37 +1000:

> If you send me a small $US amount, in plain brown envelope,
> I will reveal why. <g>

He works at the Cupertino spaceship?

Savageduck

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:11:08 PM9/4/14
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Yup!

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Your Name

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Sep 4, 2014, 9:51:15 PM9/4/14
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In article <201409041809219899-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-09-05 00:52:53 +0000, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> said:
> >
> > the issue is legal versus illegal.
>
> I have a feeling the majority of us in this room understand that much.

Technically a Torrent upload is a file server, and many home Internet
plans speficially say you're not allowed to run a server over them, so
you could be breaking that contract agreement.

dorayme

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Sep 5, 2014, 2:06:17 AM9/5/14
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In article <lub2h7$7hj$2...@news.albasani.net>,
In an odd sort of double flipping, quadruple open pike turning,
somersaulting and twisting sort of way, you are getting warm.

--
dorayme

Hüseyin Bölükbaşı

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Sep 5, 2014, 7:09:18 PM9/5/14
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 20:52:53 -0400, nospam wrote:

> a torrent app that could upload means anyone could upload anything,
> namely content to which the user has no rights to distribute (and they
> probably don't legally own it in the first place).

On my Kubuntu box, I just downloaded the 1GB Tails torrent.
https://tails.boum.org/about/index.en.html

They specifically ask you to seed it, so others can more easily obtain it.
https://tails.boum.org/download/index.en.html

Why are you saying that this is illegal?

nospam

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Sep 5, 2014, 7:19:22 PM9/5/14
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In article
<cc8a7$540a429e$6cb2360a$18...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, H�seyin
torrenting is almost always used to illegally distribute content,
namely movies, music and software (warez).

it can be used for legal purposes, but that's very rare.

Hüseyin Bölükbaşı

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Sep 5, 2014, 7:34:09 PM9/5/14
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:19:22 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it can be used for legal purposes, but that's very rare.

How can you say it's "very rare" when almost every single home Linux
installation on the planet used a bittorrent to download the image?

That's not "very rare". That's "very common".

nospam

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Sep 5, 2014, 7:48:20 PM9/5/14
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In article
<ce8a$540a4871$6cb2360a$19...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, H�seyin
B�l�kba�� <husb...@aol.com> wrote:

> > it can be used for legal purposes, but that's very rare.
>
> How can you say it's "very rare" when almost every single home Linux
> installation on the planet used a bittorrent to download the image?

home linux installations are themselves rare, nevermind torrenting.

not only that, but anything linux related is of zero use to an
ipad/iphone user.

> That's not "very rare". That's "very common".

get real.

you know damned well that nearly all torrenting is for pirating movies,
music and warez.
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