On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:19:23 -0400, nospam wrote:
>> There's a reason I'm on this newsgroup
>
> to troll
Hi nospam,
I'm _still_ going to try to reason with you, as if you're an adult.
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
Years ago, it bothered me that you Apple Apologists just made shit up.
o Everything you said, was simply all made up.
I wondered why people would have such ideas as apologists spout
o Then, it hit me what the reason was.
You Apologists actually BELIEVE everything Apple feeds you.
o When facts prove otherwise - you are forced to make shit up.
You LOVE Apple products becuase you BELIEVE in what they MARKET.
o What Apple (cleverly) markets, is imaginary performance & functionality
If you haven't figured it out yet - I don't believe what Apple says
o My purpose here - is simply to bring actual facts to the table.
Apple does some things right (e.g., the marketing is brilliant)
o But Apple is NOT a technology leader anymore - they play catchup
FACT:
o Apple is playing catchup on cameras (despite marketing otherwise)
o Apple is playing catchup on modems (despite marketing otherwise)
o Apple is playing catchup on charging (despite marketing otherwise)
etc.
ASSESSMENT:
o Apple markets brilliantly - but on actual functionality - it's just ok.
>> I also give credit to Apple for sort of inventing the smartphone camera
>> quality output - but - again - Android is ALWAYS better than Apple iPhone
>> camera output - where all you can do is hate the reviews - and you blame
>> the single-score summary - but the reality is you ignore the detailed
>> tests.
>
> nope.
>
> it's *you* who ignores all of the detailed tests, and instead fixates
> on a single flawed single score, all of which you do not understand
> what it means.
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
The fact is, nospam, you _hate_ DXOMark reviews ... because they're facts.
o Worse, you can't ever find _anything_ better that is comprehensive
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
What's interesting about you apologists, nospam,
o Is that you think EXACTLY like Apple Marketing wants you to think.
I agree that, every once in a while, Apple's expensive phones
o Happen to have good camera quality of results
But they're RARELY on top - and worse - rarely on top for long.
o That's a fact nospam.
The fact you don't like facts doesn't change that they're still facts.
o Only the most expensive of the most expensive iPhones - is ever on top
And not for long.
That's an adult observation that you apologists can never comprehend.
> ...
> ...and they beat the Pixel and Samsungšs Galaxy Note 10 Plus in
> most of our side-by-side comparisons. In fact, I think the iPhone
> 11 Pro is the best smartphone camera on the market right now.
>
> so much for android 'always' being better.
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
If we are to continue to have an adult conversation with you nospam,
we can agree that, just like what marketing does, we can "cherry pick"
phones (where you cherry picked a $1,500 phone for Christs' sake), and then
we can, delve into myriad features, to cherry pick one or two, which, of
course, is what you do all the time nospam, since your brain is highly
influenced by (admittedly clever) marketing.
But the fact remains that only the best of the most horrifically expensive
iPhones are ever even close to the top of the list in overall camera
quality of results.
And even then, not for long.
You don't like facts, nospam - but the fact is that they're still facts.
> the iphone 11 can capture *multiple* simultaneous 4k/60 video streams,
> something no other phone can do.
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
Cherry picking is what Apple Apologists do
o And Apple Marketing (admittedly brilliantly) feeds you the cherries.
But the fact is, overall, Apple iPhones are just ok on camera quality
o On average, iPhones are on the bottom of the top ten
Although, at release, the atrociously expensive phones climb higher
o But not for long.
That you don't like facts is well known nospam, since you're an apologist
o But the fact you don't like facts doesn't change that they're still facts
> The iPhone 11 Pro Max has an impressive Top Tier display with close
> to Text Book Perfect Calibration and Performance!
> Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements the iPhone 11 Pro
> Max receives our DisplayMate Best Smartphone Display Award earning
> DisplayMatešs highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better
> display performance than other competing Smartphones.
Adults pass this test: Name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
Again, as always, you're picking the atrociously expensive iPhone
o And even then, you cherry pick your data points
The facts show there are literaly ZERO reliable camera test outfits
who consistenly test the suite of common mobile smartphones, who puts the
Apple phones, on average, anywhere near the top on camera QOR>
Sure, you can cherry pick nospam
o Sure, you'll continue to cherry pick nospam
But even you can't find a single comprehensive testing outfit
o That consistently puts the iPhone on top
It's a fact.
o The iPhone camera QOR is ok - but it's almost never the best
Even when it's the best - it's only the best on certain features
o And even then, it's only the best on certain features for a while
While that happens to EVERY smartphone (and camera), the point is clear
o On overall camera Quality of Results - on average - iPhones are just ok
You don't like facts, nospam, but the fact you hate facts doesn't change
the fact they're still facts.
If you _could_ find a BETTER comprehensive camera QOR outfit
that consistently rated iPhones above the rest, then you would.
And you can't.
The fact is, you _always_ fails this simplest of tests of imaginary beliefs:
o Name just one
That is, name just one comprehensive camera test outfit
o That consistently rates iPhone camera QOR on top
Name just one.
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HINT: All my beliefs have tons of cites which back them up; while the
apologistrs can't even pass the simplest of tests of imaginary belief
systems: name just one