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Andy Burnelli

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Feb 7, 2023, 6:36:49 PM2/7/23
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If you're seeing ads, and especially if you're seeing TARGETED ads,
you're on iOS (because Android doesn't show ads on it anymore).

If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android).
Ask me how I know this.

Hank Rogers

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Feb 7, 2023, 7:15:20 PM2/7/23
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OK, How do you know that Arlen?


Alan

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Feb 7, 2023, 9:27:52 PM2/7/23
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"...[something, something] adult..."

😜

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 7, 2023, 10:55:05 PM2/7/23
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> OK, How do you know that?

Hi Steve,

I'm an adult. I'm intelligent. I'm honest. I'm credible. Informative.
I'm nothing like the loathsome repugnant deplorable hate-filled iKooks.

I'm not afraid of backing up my claims with references, Steve.
Notice the iKooks are always _afraid_ of backing up their claims.

It's simple. Free. No root needed.
And, for older phones, it's a Google Play Store automatic update!

You should put it in your comparison document as a major difference:
*iOS === ads* ... vs ... *Android === no ads*

The FAQ should be titled: *How do you know when you're on iOS?*
*If you're seeing ads, you're on iOS*

Credible adults back up their claims.
1. If you're seeing _targeted_ ads, then you have your advertiser id
on iOS that you can't remove; but it's easily removed in Android.
<https://www.androidpolice.com/google-delete-android-advertising-ids/>

2. If you're seeing google-inserted YouTube ads in videos, then
you are on iOS because Android has FOSS YouTube clients with no ads.
<https://newpipe.net/>

3. If you're seeing ads anywhere else on the phone, then you're on iOS
because Android has free FOSS ad blocking using any hosts file desired.
<https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md>

Note the apps nospam claims are imaginary; ask nospam to back up his brazen
lies with an App Store URL to test nospam's deceitful lies, here & now,

#1: Credible adults are not liars like all iKooks are.
*How to delete the Advertising ID on Android*
<https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/17/how-to-delete-the-advertising-id-on-android/>

#2: Credible adults are not ignorant like all iKooks are.
*Go YouTube ad-free on Android without spending a penny*
<https://www.online-tech-tips.com/software-reviews/newpipe-a-lightweight-youtube-app-for-android/>

#3: Credible adults are not uneducated, like all iKooks are.
*Enable NetGuard's Hidden Ad-Blocking Feature on Your Android Phone*
<https:// android.gadgethacks.com /how-to/enable-netguards-hidden-ad-blocking-feature-your-android-phone-0176386/>

I'm not afraid of facts. But the ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks are.

Please do not dispute these facts without even _clicking_ on the cites!
Why? Because that's what iKooks do. They're _afraid_ of facts.
They prefer to deny all facts they hate (which is a lot of facts).

And yes, unlike the uneducated low-IQ deceitful iKooks, I'm well
aware that Apple will let you opt out of "some" ads with each app.
<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/how-disable-ad-id-tracking-ios-and-android-and-why-you-should-do-it-now>
--
The _adults_ on this ng should be asking the iKooks for references for
their claims - which always turn out as deceitful dishonest horrid lies.

nospam

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Feb 7, 2023, 11:08:10 PM2/7/23
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In article <trv6em$i2g0$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> I'm an adult. I'm intelligent. I'm honest. I'm credible. Informative.

there is zero evidence to support any of those and ample evidence that
they're all crazy fantasy.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 7, 2023, 11:23:33 PM2/7/23
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nospam wrote:

> there is zero evidence to support any of those and ample evidence that
> they're all crazy fantasy.

Look nospam.

You have no dignity. No honor. No credibility. No remorse. No shame.

Like any predator...
You would stab your own mother in the back & poison her dog too, nospam.

Just so that you could sadistically enjoy doing it for your own amusement.
That's the kind of despicably deplorable barbarous person you are, nospam.

Act like an honorable human being for just once in your entire sordid life.
*Back up your brazen lies about iOS functionality with credible cites.*

Hank Rogers

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Feb 7, 2023, 11:26:42 PM2/7/23
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Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> there is zero evidence to support any of those and ample evidence
>> that
>> they're all crazy fantasy.
>
> Look nospam.
>
> You have no dignity. No honor. No credibility. No remorse. No shame.
>

Yeah, and he has no books either!


Andy Burnelli

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Feb 7, 2023, 11:32:14 PM2/7/23
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Hank Rogers wrote:

>> You have no dignity. No honor. No credibility. No remorse. No shame.
>>
>
> Yeah, and he has no books either!

Look. Either back up your claims of imaginary iOS functionality with cites,
or forever prove that you _hate_ that if you're seeing ads, you're on iOS.

Chris

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Feb 8, 2023, 2:48:29 AM2/8/23
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I'm not seeing personalised ads on iOS. What am I doing wrong?

Joerg Lorenz

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Feb 8, 2023, 3:23:29 AM2/8/23
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Am 08.02.23 um 04:55 schrieb Andy Burnelli:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> If you're seeing ads, and especially if you're seeing TARGETED ads,
>>> you're on iOS (because Android doesn't show ads on it anymore).
>>>
>>> If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not
>>> Android).
>>> Ask me how I know this.
>>
>> OK, How do you know that?
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I'm an adult.

Just a rumor.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Joerg Lorenz

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Feb 8, 2023, 3:26:35 AM2/8/23
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Am 08.02.23 um 08:48 schrieb Chris:
Same question here. Never seen on my Apple devices over the last 17
years. What is wrong?

Android is quite different. Each app thinks it has the right to torture
me with irrelevant ads. Every time is use it.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 8, 2023, 10:50:21 AM2/8/23
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On 2023-02-08, Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Am 08.02.23 um 08:48 schrieb Chris:
>> Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You have no dignity. No honor. No credibility. No remorse. No
>>>>> shame.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, and he has no books either!
>>>
>>> Look. Either back up your claims of imaginary iOS functionality with
>>> cites, or forever prove that you _hate_ that if you're seeing ads,
>>> you're on iOS.
>>
>> I'm not seeing personalised ads on iOS. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Same question here. Never seen on my Apple devices over the last 17
> years. What is wrong?

None of us are seeing them - must be a conspiracy! ; )

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Chris

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Feb 8, 2023, 11:05:20 AM2/8/23
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Baseless one at that.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 8, 2023, 12:28:38 PM2/8/23
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Chris wrote:

> Baseless one at that.

Once again, the clueless iKooks brazen ly deny all facts they simply hate.
(Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for so many facts that they hate.)

*If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS*
<https:// www.androidpolice.com /google-delete-android-advertising-ids/>
<https:// newpipe.net/ >
<https:// github.com/ M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md>

*If you're _not_ seeing ads, then you're on Android*
<https:// www.ghacks.net /2022/02/17/how-to-delete-the-advertising-id-on-android/>
<https:// www.online-tech-tips.com /software-reviews/newpipe-a-lightweight-youtube-app-for-android/>\
<https:// android.gadgethacks.com /how-to/enable-netguards-hidden-ad-blocking-feature-your-android-phone-0176386/>
--
iKooks have no dignity. No honor. No credibility. No remorse. No shame.
Like any predator...

Thomas

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Feb 8, 2023, 12:34:11 PM2/8/23
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:48:27 AM, Chris wrote:

> I'm not seeing personalised ads on iOS. What am I doing wrong?

If the ads you see are for Ostrich Pillows, then they're personalized.

Alan

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Feb 8, 2023, 12:36:12 PM2/8/23
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On 2023-02-08 09:28, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> Baseless one at that.
>
> Once again, the clueless iKooks brazen ly deny all facts they simply hate.
> (Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for so many facts that they hate.)
>
> *If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS*
> <https:// www.androidpolice.com /google-delete-android-advertising-ids/>
> <https:// newpipe.net/ >
> <https:// github.com/ M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md>
> *If you're _not_ seeing ads, then you're on Android* <https://
> www.ghacks.net /2022/02/17/how-to-delete-the-advertising-id-on-android/>
> <https:// www.online-tech-tips.com
> /software-reviews/newpipe-a-lightweight-youtube-app-for-android/>\
> <https:// android.gadgethacks.com
> /how-to/enable-netguards-hidden-ad-blocking-feature-your-android-phone-0176386/>

So you've just presented (badly) three links about how to remove ads...

...that you claim Android doesn't show.

Got it.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 8, 2023, 2:24:53 PM2/8/23
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He's such an idiot.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 8, 2023, 2:25:53 PM2/8/23
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Nope, none of those either. Baseless lies are all you loser zealots
have going for you. : )

Chris

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Feb 8, 2023, 5:24:46 PM2/8/23
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Ostrich? Pah! Peacock feathers only here thank you very much!

Chris

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Feb 8, 2023, 5:28:04 PM2/8/23
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Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> Baseless one at that.
>
> Once again, the clueless iKooks brazen ly deny all facts they simply hate.
> (Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for so many facts that they hate.)
>
> *If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS*
> <https:// www.androidpolice.com /google-delete-android-advertising-ids/>
> <https:// newpipe.net/ >
> <https:// github.com/ M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md>
>
> *If you're _not_ seeing ads, then you're on Android*
> <https:// www.ghacks.net /2022/02/17/how-to-delete-the-advertising-id-on-android/>
> <https:// www.online-tech-tips.com
> /software-reviews/newpipe-a-lightweight-youtube-app-for-android/>\
> <https:// android.gadgethacks.com
> /how-to/enable-netguards-hidden-ad-blocking-feature-your-android-phone-0176386/>

I'll repeat my question from before. I'm not seeing any personalised ads on
my iphone, what am I doing wrong?

Oh no! Has my phone been hacked?!

Is there some open source, freeware, no ads, no calling to mothership
anti-malware app I can run to fix my phone?

nospam

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Feb 8, 2023, 5:56:59 PM2/8/23
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In article <ts17lj$bvtm$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > Once again, the clueless iKooks brazen ly deny all facts they simply hate.
> > (Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for so many facts that they hate.)
> >
> > *If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS*
...

> I'll repeat my question from before. I'm not seeing any personalised ads on
> my iphone, what am I doing wrong?

according to arlen, you're not an adult, nor is the rest the kooky
klan, thus parental control would be the likely culprit, protecting
innocent children.

>
> Is there some open source, freeware, no ads, no calling to mothership
> anti-malware app I can run to fix my phone?

you'll age out. eventually.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:01:31 PM2/8/23
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Chris wrote:

> I'll repeat my question from before. I'm not seeing any personalised ads on
> my iphone, what am I doing wrong?
>
> Oh no! Has my phone been hacked?!
>
> Is there some open source, freeware, no ads, no calling to mothership
> anti-malware app I can run to fix my phone?

Hi Chris,

First off, I apologize for the broken-up URLs where I thought people would
be intelligent enough to figure that's to foil lousy "badurl" nntp filters.

But apparently the iKooks completely whoosh on all obvious facts and
concentrate instead on what amounts to purposeful typos to fix bad url
filters (I have no control over what the nntp server considers bad urls).

Anyway, I clearly understand that you "said" you're not seeing _targeted_
ads, which, may or may not be true because you don't know how to tell.

Nobody does.

But let's assume you're right for the first time in your entire life, Chris
(although I remember you claiming a PhD which you clearly lied about).

Let's assume, Chris - that either you're too stupid to recognize a targeted
ad, or, even that by pure luck, you haven't actually received targeted ads.

Good for you.
But that still doesn't change the main point one bit.

*If you're seeing _any_ ads, then you're on iOS* (not Android).

The reason has been supplied in the half dozen URLs that I previously
provided where the ad blocking functionality of iOS is clearly crippled.
--
The _adults_ on this ng should be asking the iKooks for references for
their claims, which always turn out as deceitful dishonest brazen lies.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:11:03 PM2/8/23
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nospam wrote:

> you'll age out. eventually.

Let's assume that either Chris is too stupid to recognize a targeted
ad, or, even by pure luck, Chris hasn't actually received targeted ads.

Good for hjm.
But that still doesn't change the main point one bit.

*If you're seeing _any_ ads, then you're on iOS* (not Android).

The reason has been supplied in the half dozen URLs that I previously
provided where the ad blocking functionality of iOS is clearly crippled.

The ad blockign in iOS is crippled, in that...
a. It's impossible to wipe out the advertiser ID on iOS
b. It's impossible to watch YouTube videos _without) any ads, nospam
c. It's impossible to set up a system wide hosts firewall on iOS
(all by its itty bitty self, nospam)

You brazenly deny all that I've provided cites for, and yet, you iKooks
never provide any cites for your brazen denials of what everyone knows.
--
The _adults_ on this ng should be asking the iKooks for references for
their claims, which always turn out as deceitful dishonest brazen lies.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:26:26 PM2/8/23
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On 2023-02-08, Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> The ad blockign in iOS is crippled, in that...

> a. It's impossible to wipe out the advertiser ID on iOS

Nope, on iOS devices, you can completely turn off personalized ads by
disabling Settings > Privacy > Apple Advertising > Personalized Ads.

> b. It's impossible to watch YouTube videos _without) any ads, nospam

Also wrong - you can watch YouTube videos with no ads thanks to the
Vinegar app (or other similar apps).

> c. It's impossible to set up a system wide hosts firewall on iOS
> (all by its itty bitty self, nospam)

System-wide DNS ad blocking is available and works fine. I know because
I've used one such ad blocker for years without issue:
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adblock/id691121579?uo=4&at=11l6hc&app=itunes&ct=fnd>

> You brazenly deny all that I've provided cites for

All of your claims are false, Arlen.
Your trolls are weak. : )

Hank Rogers

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:40:53 PM2/8/23
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It's hopeless man. Most all iphone users are dumbass children.
Engineers and adults know to use only android. But they must still
buy shitty toy iphones for their young ignorant children.

When the children get older, you can buy them some books and an
android telephone. They catch on pretty quick.




nospam

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:58:14 PM2/8/23
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In article <ts19k8$p15q$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

> Anyway, I clearly understand that you "said" you're not seeing _targeted_
> ads, which, may or may not be true because you don't know how to tell.
>
> Nobody does.

other than you, who somehow can tell that you're not seeing targeted
ads.

nospam

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Feb 8, 2023, 6:58:16 PM2/8/23
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In article <ts1a65$p30s$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

> a. It's impossible to wipe out the advertiser ID on iOS
> b. It's impossible to watch YouTube videos _without) any ads
> c. It's impossible to set up a system wide hosts firewall on iOS

it's impossible *for* *you*, and that obstacle is not limited to only
those three either.

those who want to do any or all of those things can easily do it,
should they choose to do so.

Ken Blake

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Feb 8, 2023, 7:21:35 PM2/8/23
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2023 23:08:07 -0500, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
I think he's probably an adult.

nospam

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Feb 8, 2023, 7:28:09 PM2/8/23
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In article <g3f8uh9cfs9ph8o81...@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<K...@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>
> >In article <trv6em$i2g0$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
> ><nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >> I'm an adult. I'm intelligent. I'm honest. I'm credible. Informative.
> >
> >there is zero evidence to support any of those and ample evidence that
> >they're all crazy fantasy.
>
>
>
> I think he's probably an adult.

chronologically perhaps, but not cognitively or behaviorally.

Hank Rogers

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Feb 8, 2023, 8:28:08 PM2/8/23
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Hell, who knows. Maybe he's an android "developer".


nospam

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Feb 8, 2023, 9:16:08 PM2/8/23
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In article <H_XEL.664812$iU59....@fx14.iad>, Hank Rogers
<ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> >>> In article <trv6em$i2g0$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
> >>> <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >>>> I'm an adult. I'm intelligent. I'm honest. I'm credible. Informative.
> >>>
> >>> there is zero evidence to support any of those and ample evidence that
> >>> they're all crazy fantasy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think he's probably an adult.
> >
> > chronologically perhaps, but not cognitively or behaviorally.
> >
>
> Hell, who knows. Maybe he's an android "developer".

he's not.

he tried, but could not get sample code to build.

that is a significant obstacle to developing actual apps.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 8, 2023, 10:36:28 PM2/8/23
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On 2023-02-08, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-02-08, Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> The ad blockign in iOS is crippled, in that...
>
>> a. It's impossible to wipe out the advertiser ID on iOS
>
> Nope, on iOS devices, you can completely turn off personalized ads by
> disabling Settings > Privacy > Apple Advertising > Personalized Ads.

Also, since iOS 14 (we're at iOS 16 now), Apple requires app developers
to call system APIs that ask the user whether they want to allow the app
to track them, and only if the user taps Allow does the developer get an
ID - but even better, the user can completely disable Settings > Privacy
> Tracking > Allow Apps to Request to Track which prevents app
developers from asking for it in the first place. : )

Chris

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Feb 9, 2023, 2:41:44 AM2/9/23
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nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ts17lj$bvtm$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Once again, the clueless iKooks brazen ly deny all facts they simply hate.
>>> (Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for so many facts that they hate.)
>>>
>>> *If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS*
> ...
>
>> I'll repeat my question from before. I'm not seeing any personalised ads on
>> my iphone, what am I doing wrong?
>
> according to arlen, you're not an adult, nor is the rest the kooky
> klan, thus parental control would be the likely culprit, protecting
> innocent children.

Ah good. At least someone is thinking about the children.

Ken Blake

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Feb 9, 2023, 11:34:18 AM2/9/23
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 19:28:08 -0500, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

>but not cognitively or behaviorally.


Yes.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 10, 2023, 12:39:07 PM2/10/23
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nospam wrote:

>> Anyway, I clearly understand that you "said" you're not seeing _targeted_
>> ads, which, may or may not be true because you don't know how to tell.
>>
>> Nobody does.
>
> other than you, who somehow can tell that you're not seeing targeted
> ads.

Hi nospam,

You defend Apple to the death using lies and deceit - never reliable facts.
*I simply state the facts* (where you have no _adult_ defense to facts).

As I said, I don't see _any_ ads on Android, targeted or otherwise.
*If you're seeing ads on a smartphone, then you're on iOS*

As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
*Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*

Even better, Android has a free full system-wide firewall, nospam.
*This kind of powerful app functionality is impossible on iOS*
All by its itty bitty self.

What's clear about you nospam, is you're completely ignorant of all this.

Alan

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Feb 10, 2023, 1:38:01 PM2/10/23
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On 2023-02-10 09:39, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>>> Anyway, I clearly understand that you "said" you're not seeing
>>> _targeted_ ads, which, may or may not be true because you don't know
>>> how to tell.
>>>
>>> Nobody does.
>>
>> other than you, who somehow can tell that you're not seeing targeted
>> ads.
>
> Hi nospam,
>
> You defend Apple to the death using lies and deceit - never reliable facts.
> *I simply state the facts* (where you have no _adult_ defense to facts).
>
> As I said, I don't see _any_ ads on Android, targeted or otherwise.
> *If you're seeing ads on a smartphone, then you're on iOS*
>
> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*

"Turn personalized ads on or off

Go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
Personalized Ads on or off."

<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iphf60a6a256/ios>

nospam

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Feb 10, 2023, 1:47:38 PM2/10/23
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In article <ts62u7$144rq$1...@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

> >
> > As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
> > *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*

not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that there's
less than 10 million apps.

> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>
> Go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
> Personalized Ads on or off."

that's two steps. :)

but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.

Alan

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Feb 10, 2023, 1:56:14 PM2/10/23
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On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1...@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>
> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that there's
> less than 10 million apps.
>
>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>
>> Go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>
> that's two steps. :)

Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be one
step.

>
> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.

Agreed.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 10, 2023, 1:58:54 PM2/10/23
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nospam wrote:

> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.

The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
iOS.

After personalization, you have to turn off location based ads on iOS.
(Or are you iKooks claiming that location-based ads aren't personalized?)

Once you do that... come back to me and we'll work on the next in the list.

Alan

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Feb 10, 2023, 2:03:36 PM2/10/23
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On 2023-02-10 10:59, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>
> The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
> only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
> iOS.

Facts only, please!

Supported facts.

>
> After personalization, you have to turn off location based ads on iOS.
> (Or are you iKooks claiming that location-based ads aren't personalized?)

Location-based apps are clearly NOT personalized.

News

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Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.

Alan

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<yawn>

nospam

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Feb 10, 2023, 2:25:32 PM2/10/23
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In article <ts645b$1hvjd$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> > but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>
> The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
> only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
> iOS.

it's not any step.

maybe if you actually understood how things work, you'd realize how
nonsensical what you are spewing actually is.

Andy Burnelli

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nospam wrote:

> it's not any step.

I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does, nospam.
It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.

> maybe if you actually understood how things work, you'd realize how
> nonsensical what you are spewing actually is.

It's clear you are who knows _nothing_ since you have to explicitly turn
off location based ads in iOS and you are completely unaware of that fact.

Even if you were aware of that fact, I'd bring up the next step because,
with iOS, you can't get the kind of privacy and ad blocking Android has.

*If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS.* (Not Android.)

nospam

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In article <ts66ve$1i924$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

> I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does,

nobody said that, liar.

> It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.

no, it's essentially the same.

the actual apps might be from different developers, something which
greatly confuses you.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 10, 2023, 2:54:59 PM2/10/23
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nospam wrote:

>> I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does,
>
> nobody said that, liar.

Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.

HINT: You have no clue you can't get tor project privacy out of webkit.
HINT: You have no clue these two apps aren't even close to similar.
HINT: You have no clue iOS doesn't have a system-wide on-device firewall.
etc.

The assessment remains factually valid and well substantiated, nospam:
*If you're seeing ads on a smartphone, then you're on iOS* (Not Android.)

>> It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.
>
> no, it's essentially the same.
>
> the actual apps might be from different developers, something which
> greatly confuses you.

No. It's _you_ who is ignorant, nospam.
Not me.

Otherwise you wouldn't need to lie so much about iOS functionality.

How many times, for example, have you lied about iOS GPS spoofers, nospam?
How many times have you lied about system-wide iOS firewalls, nospam?
How many times did you lie on blocking wi-fi & cellular on a per app basis?
etc.

What all you deceitful iKooks do, all day, every day... is lie.
*You have no other defense to the truth than your lies.*

nospam

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In article <ts67eg$1iafs$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Don't call me a liar

stop lying and people won't call you a liar.

very simple.

Jolly Roger

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Feb 10, 2023, 3:11:48 PM2/10/23
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Except it isn't, which is observable by every single person who uses
one. Your little lies are weak.

News

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Feb 10, 2023, 3:16:00 PM2/10/23
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On 2/10/2023 3:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-02-10, News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2023 1:56 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1...@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>>>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>>>>
>>>> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that
>>>> there's less than 10 million apps.
>>>>
>>>>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to Settings  > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>>>>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>>>>
>>>> that's two steps. :)
>>>
>>> Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be
>>> one step.
>>>
>>>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>
>> Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.
>
> Except it isn't, which is observable by every single person who uses
> one. Your little lies are weak.
>

In which case it ought to be easy for you to point to one million
individuals within the claim 'every single person'. We'll wait.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 10, 2023, 4:08:02 PM2/10/23
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nospam wrote:

> very simple.

Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.

You are a deceitful person who lies every time you can't respond to facts.
Which is almost all the time, unfortunately.

If you wish to refute this summary, then refute that using facts, nospam.
*If you're seeing ads* on a smartphone, then *you're on iOS*

Refute that, nospam, but use _facts_ to refute that (which you can't).
Instead of resorting to lies which only prove my point of what you are.
--
Why should iKooks look anything up when it's easier for them to just lie.

nospam

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In article <ts6bng$1iosn$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*

that's not why they're calling you a liar.

they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.



> I am a deceitful person who lies every time I can't respond to facts.
> Which is almost all the time, unfortunately.

ftfy

Hank Rogers

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Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> very simple.
>
> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.
>


Maybe you're not a liar, but you're certainly full of shit.


Andy Burnelli

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Hank Rogers wrote:

>> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.
>>
>
> Maybe you're not a liar, but you're certainly full of shit.

And yet, never, not even once in the history of this newsgroup, have you or
anyone else on this ng ever shown any fact from me to be wrong.

If you could, you would; yet you don't - because you can't.

With that, I put you back on plonk as I thought you had matured.

Andy Burnelli

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Feb 11, 2023, 6:46:34 AM2/11/23
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nospam wrote:

> they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.

And yet, you've never found a single fact from me to ever be wrong.
You can't.

I'm not like you nospam.

I'm nothing like you, in fact.
You have no shame. No pride. No honor. No morals. No respect for yourself.

You have no respect for any human being, nospam.

You would feel no remorse stabbing your own mother in the back nospam.
That's the kind of deceitful despicable piece of shit you truly are.

Chris

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Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>>> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you're not a liar, but you're certainly full of shit.
>
> And yet, never, not even once in the history of this newsgroup, have you or
> anyone else on this ng ever shown any fact from me to be wrong.

That's an actual lie. I and several others have shown you to be wrong about
many things.

You've also chickened out of proving all your "college degrees". All you
can show is photos of some (very old) text books. So all that can be
deduced is you're lying about that as well.

> If you could, you would; yet you don't - because you can't.

What usually happens is you don't acknowledge it and then disappear for a
bit hoping that no-one will notice.

> With that, I put you back on plonk as I thought you had matured.

Spoken like the true child you are.



Alan

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On 2023-02-11 03:46, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.
>
> And yet, you've never found a single fact from me to ever be wrong.

Well that's a lie.

Jolly Roger

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On 2023-02-11, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>>>> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*,
>>>> nospam.
>>>
>>> Maybe you're not a liar, but you're certainly full of shit.
>>
>> And yet, never, not even once in the history of this newsgroup, have
>> you or anyone else on this ng ever shown any fact from me to be
>> wrong.
>
> That's an actual lie. I and several others have shown you to be wrong
> about many things.

Yep, and when confronted, he turns into a broken record, spamming the
same, long, tired, insult-laden diatribes that don't actually do
anything at all to dispute challenges to his lies. It's pathetic every
time.

> You've also chickened out of proving all your "college degrees". All
> you can show is photos of some (very old) text books. So all that can
> be deduced is you're lying about that as well.

He hasn't proved any of his claims through the years. He frequently
confuses opinion for fact. And anyone who questions his claims is
automatically accused of trolling and insulted. He's a huge man-child.

>> If you could, you would; yet you don't - because you can't.
>
> What usually happens is you don't acknowledge it and then disappear
> for a bit hoping that no-one will notice.
>
>> With that, I put you back on plonk as I thought you had matured.
>
> Spoken like the true child you are.

He also won't actually plonk you, because he's all bark, no bite. ; )

Andy Burnelli

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Chris wrote:

> You've also chickened out of proving all your "college degrees". All you
> can show is photos of some (very old) text books. So all that can be
> deduced is you're lying about that as well.

Chris,
I feel sorry for you that people called you stupid your whole life.
*One of the reasons you're stupid, Chris - is you have no memory.*

Your memory is atrocious since we have entire threads on this topic, where
I long ago emailed Steve my college degree information where he was told to
not publish my name but he was welcome to publish the rest of the stuff.

You want that information - get it from Steve because you wouldn't
believe it if it came from me anyway - so that's why I sent it to Steve.

You're stupid Chris, because you don't even remember we did all this.

>> If you could, you would; yet you don't - because you can't.
>
> What usually happens is you don't acknowledge it and then disappear for a
> bit hoping that no-one will notice.

Everything you say is _why_ people called you stupid your whole life.

The fact remains if you could find a single case of me stating an incorrect
fact (which wasn't just a thinko or one that I didnt' immediately
acknowledge, usually profusely as it could be by pure accident), you
wouild.

Just say what it is, Chris. Otherwise, you're lying (again), Chris.
*You don't list any wrong facts. Because you can't.*

My credibility is stellar, Chris.
Not because I'm smarter than all of you combined.

But because I don't say a fact if it's not well known already.

Stupid people like you, Chris, say all sorts of things you don't
understand. You're extremely confident in your stupidity, Chris.

It's why people your whole life have been calling you stupid, Chris.
Not just me.

>> With that, I put you back on plonk as I thought you had matured.
>
> Spoken like the true child you are.

You're the one who lied about having a PhD and then you ridiculed classic
words used all the time in immunology, Chris - like a small child would.

Remember, I have a steel trap of a memory, Chris.
*Does "vehicle" ring a bell?*

HINT: Your IQ is about 50, Chris, and partly due to your lies where
you, like all iKooks, own no shame. No honor. No decency.

It's why you've been told your whole life that you're stupid, Chris.
You don't remember that we covered all this in depth already, Chris.

Chris

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Andy Burnelli <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> You've also chickened out of proving all your "college degrees". All you
>> can show is photos of some (very old) text books. So all that can be
>> deduced is you're lying about that as well.
>
> Chris,
> I feel sorry for you that people called you stupid your whole life.
> *One of the reasons you're stupid, Chris - is you have no memory.*

Lol. I must have touched a nerve.

> Your memory is atrocious since we have entire threads on this topic, where
> I long ago emailed Steve my college degree information where he was told to
> not publish my name but he was welcome to publish the rest of the stuff.

I never saw that.

> You want that information - get it from Steve because you wouldn't
> believe it if it came from me anyway - so that's why I sent it to Steve.

Why is Steve a more trustworthy source? Why are you hiding behind him? I
offered to show my degree if you showed yours...

> You're stupid Chris, because you don't even remember we did all this.

Not possible to remember something I wasn't involved in.

>>> If you could, you would; yet you don't - because you can't.
>>
>> What usually happens is you don't acknowledge it and then disappear for a
>> bit hoping that no-one will notice.
>
> Everything you say is _why_ people called you stupid your whole life.
>
> The fact remains if you could find a single case of me stating an incorrect
> fact (which wasn't just a thinko or one that I didnt' immediately
> acknowledge, usually profusely as it could be by pure accident), you
> wouild.
>
> Just say what it is, Chris. Otherwise, you're lying (again), Chris.
> *You don't list any wrong facts. Because you can't.*

Remind us all how incredibly huge the SARS-CoV-2 ssRNA genome is?

> My credibility is stellar, Chris.

Second only to your hubris, I bet.

> Not because I'm smarter than all of you combined.

Certainly true.

> But because I don't say a fact if it's not well known already.

You confuse opinion with facts on a regular basis. Also extrapolation or
inference are not facts either.


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