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Peter Roe
Jan 15, 2013, 7:43:18 AM1/15/13
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I managed to fall into the sea and drown my iphone 3gs. Despite rice
bags, hairdriers, days of patience, it remains dead as a dodo.
I'm currently negotiating with insurance about a replacement, and
meanwhile could do with a bit of info...
The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
I'd appreciate some info on what to expect... TIA
bags, hairdriers, days of patience, it remains dead as a dodo.
I'm currently negotiating with insurance about a replacement, and
meanwhile could do with a bit of info...
The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
I'd appreciate some info on what to expect... TIA
Steve W. Jackson
Jan 15, 2013, 9:29:33 AM1/15/13
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In article <BICdnXmVw7x102jN...@brightview.co.uk>,
Aside from the reason for replacement (your fatal encounter with the
sea!), the "process" you've outlined is essentially what I've done each
time I've gotten a replacement iPhone. When I connected it to iTunes, I
changed its name to match the old one and answered appropriate prompts.
Then I restored from backup to it. Assuming that your iCloud settings
and such are valid, it will indeed get all your contacts and such from
the cloud.
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
sea!), the "process" you've outlined is essentially what I've done each
time I've gotten a replacement iPhone. When I connected it to iTunes, I
changed its name to match the old one and answered appropriate prompts.
Then I restored from backup to it. Assuming that your iCloud settings
and such are valid, it will indeed get all your contacts and such from
the cloud.
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
Jolly Roger
Jan 15, 2013, 9:47:40 AM1/15/13
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> I managed to fall into the sea and drown my iphone 3gs. Despite rice
> bags, hairdriers, days of patience, it remains dead as a dodo.
I wouldn't expect any of those things to help reverse the corrosive
> bags, hairdriers, days of patience, it remains dead as a dodo.
agents in sea water. You probably should have taken it completely apart
and given it a bath first. ; )
> I'm currently negotiating with insurance about a replacement, and
> meanwhile could do with a bit of info...
>
> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
> iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
> list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
>
> I'd appreciate some info on what to expect... TIA
mostly to just work. That's been my experience.
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nospam
Jan 15, 2013, 9:57:05 AM1/15/13
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after you get the replacement, sell the old one on ebay. you might be
surprised what people will pay for a water damaged phone.
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0an...@gmail.com
Jan 15, 2013, 11:46:32 AM1/15/13
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:57:05 -0500, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
wrote:
Peter Roe
Jan 15, 2013, 11:55:32 AM1/15/13
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nospam
Jan 15, 2013, 12:21:46 PM1/15/13
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In article <gt1bf894lecrcpsak...@4ax.com>,
<0an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >after you get the replacement, sell the old one on ebay. you might be
> >surprised what people will pay for a water damaged phone.
>
> Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
someone who wants it for parts. or maybe they think they can fix it.
> >after you get the replacement, sell the old one on ebay. you might be
> >surprised what people will pay for a water damaged phone.
>
> Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
News
Jan 15, 2013, 12:32:54 PM1/15/13
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water.
Peter Roe
Jan 15, 2013, 12:47:25 PM1/15/13
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of my life on it :-)
nospam
Jan 15, 2013, 1:00:28 PM1/15/13
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In article <LNSdna6A1oOyC2jN...@brightview.co.uk>, Peter
it up either.
Roe <pe...@nothere.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> after you get the replacement, sell the old one on ebay. you might be
> >>> surprised what people will pay for a water damaged phone.
> >>
> >> Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
> >
> > someone who wants it for parts. or maybe they think they can fix it.
> >
> Since I can't fire it up, I wouldn't sell it on anyway; it has too much
> of my life on it :-)
that's certainly a concern, but they aren't likely to be able to fire
> >>> after you get the replacement, sell the old one on ebay. you might be
> >>> surprised what people will pay for a water damaged phone.
> >>
> >> Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
> >
> > someone who wants it for parts. or maybe they think they can fix it.
> >
> Since I can't fire it up, I wouldn't sell it on anyway; it has too much
> of my life on it :-)
it up either.
Davoud
Jan 15, 2013, 1:33:37 PM1/15/13
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0and16:
junk and sell it cheap. When I sell top quality I mark it as such and
price it accordingly.
nospam:
flip them (often in Asia, by the container load) tend to guard their
reputations so as not to lose the trust of the partners abroad. Private
individuals I cannot speak for except to a limited extent. I have sold
several iPhones and iPads on ebay, all of them in excellent condition,
none of them ever dropped or bathed. The buyer feedback on my most
recent iPad sale began "In 13 yrs. [that I have been dealing on ebay]
this is the best transaction yet..." I know at least half a dozen
people who have bought iOS thingies on ebay and all have been quite
satisfied.
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you will say in your entire life.
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
> >> Who in their right mind would buy a water damaged phone?
One can sell /anything/ if the price is right. If I sell junk I call it
junk and sell it cheap. When I sell top quality I mark it as such and
price it accordingly.
nospam:
> > someone who wants it for parts. or maybe they think they can fix it.
News:
> Or plans to flip it without reference to it having been dunked in salt
> water.
I'll bet that's rarer than you might think. Those who buy iPhones to
> water.
flip them (often in Asia, by the container load) tend to guard their
reputations so as not to lose the trust of the partners abroad. Private
individuals I cannot speak for except to a limited extent. I have sold
several iPhones and iPads on ebay, all of them in excellent condition,
none of them ever dropped or bathed. The buyer feedback on my most
recent iPad sale began "In 13 yrs. [that I have been dealing on ebay]
this is the best transaction yet..." I know at least half a dozen
people who have bought iOS thingies on ebay and all have been quite
satisfied.
--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
Steve O
Jan 15, 2013, 3:42:04 PM1/15/13
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JF Mezei
Jan 16, 2013, 12:23:00 AM1/16/13
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On 13-01-15 07:43, Peter Roe wrote:
> I managed to fall into the sea and drown my iphone 3gs.
I'll report you to the society for the prevention of cruelty to iPhones. :-)
> I managed to fall into the sea and drown my iphone 3gs.
If you are a hacker, the first thing to do after your phone has had a
true submersion into sea water would be to dunk in in fresh water. cold.
(Lithium Ion batteries do not like heat, so no hot water).
Then take it apart, detach battery as soon as you can. Rinse battery
circuitry under cold fresh water than air dry.
Rinse the iphone in cold fresh water and air dry as well (you fan use a
little bit of heat once batteries are out). You may end up with traces
of water stuck between glass and LCD and this is very hard to remove.
It is possible that the protection circuitry in the battery will have
shorted out permanently. (basically a blown electronic fuse). This is to
prevent a short that can cause battery to literally explode.
Once the unit appears dry, you look at it with magnifying glass to see
traces of salt/corrosion. Toothbrush and rubbing alchool can help clean
this. (especially around dock connector).
If you are not able to rescussitate your unit, make sure to provide it a
proper burial ceremony (do the Apple places of worship provide funeral
services for dead iphones and recycle them ?)
> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
> iphone.
remove traces of salt.
SIM card can easily be replaced and the new old associated with your
mobile account.
> When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back?
data. But it will not bring back application data that was in temp or
cache directories as those are not backed up.
When you get a vanilla iPhone, you need to restore it first. Then you
synch it (this will bring your music and applications onto the phone).
You *may* need to restore it again to get your application data back to
the iphone (I am not sure if the first restore will bring application
data to the iphones if the applications haven't been loaded yet.
Someone else can chime in and asnwer that.
JF Mezei
Jan 16, 2013, 12:31:12 AM1/16/13
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On 13-01-15 11:14, c_mulh...@nym.hush.com wrote:
> I agree, but give it a bath in rubbing alcohol. Fresh water is OK and will
> wash the salt water away from the components but alcohol is better.
Fresh water is able to disolve salt. Not sure about alchool. But alchool
is better at displacing remaining water and evaporating without leaving
traces.
(alchool disolves grease, notably from soldering paste).
> I have found that the chances of a full recovery are better if the unit was
> off at the time of being covered in water.
An iPhone is never really off from a circuitry point of view. But when
you think the unit is off, the power reaches fewer parts of the phone,
so it is an improvement.
(remember that there is no mechanical switch to cut off power).
But it must be repeated; removing battery is the most urgent step in any
such accident.
> I agree, but give it a bath in rubbing alcohol. Fresh water is OK and will
> wash the salt water away from the components but alcohol is better.
Fresh water is able to disolve salt. Not sure about alchool. But alchool
is better at displacing remaining water and evaporating without leaving
traces.
(alchool disolves grease, notably from soldering paste).
> I have found that the chances of a full recovery are better if the unit was
> off at the time of being covered in water.
An iPhone is never really off from a circuitry point of view. But when
you think the unit is off, the power reaches fewer parts of the phone,
so it is an improvement.
(remember that there is no mechanical switch to cut off power).
But it must be repeated; removing battery is the most urgent step in any
such accident.
Wes Groleau
Jan 18, 2013, 11:52:57 PM1/18/13
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On 01-15-2013 07:43, Peter Roe wrote:
> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
> iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
> list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
I recently backed up an iPhone 4 and restored onto a 4S.
> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
> iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
> list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
All the apps and data were restored, including the state of some
stateful apps.
But strangely, a few of the O.S.-level settings were put back to factory
default.
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Wes Groleau
Jan 20, 2013, 11:12:36 PM1/20/13
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On 01-18-2013 23:52, Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 01-15-2013 07:43, Peter Roe wrote:
>> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
>> iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
>> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
>> list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
>
> I recently backed up an iPhone 4 and restored onto a 4S.
>
> All the apps and data were restored, including the state of some
> stateful apps.
>
> But strangely, a few of the O.S.-level settings were put back to factory
> default.
The restore brought in all my saved WiFi keys, and some cookies that
> On 01-15-2013 07:43, Peter Roe wrote:
>> The sim card seems fine, so I should be able to stick it in a new
>> iphone. When I do, presumablyI tell itunes to restore from the most
>> recent backup. Will it put all my apps back? Will it pull my contacts
>> list from iCloud?Will it restore my email accounts and settings?
>
> I recently backed up an iPhone 4 and restored onto a 4S.
>
> All the apps and data were restored, including the state of some
> stateful apps.
>
> But strangely, a few of the O.S.-level settings were put back to factory
> default.
held useful info for a few websites, and the stored password for a few
websites.
But it failed to transfer my GMail password.
--
Wes Groleau
Alive and Well
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