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Apple did not sufficiently test the iPhone 15 on iOS 17 before selling it
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Wally J
Sep 30, 2023, 4:06:05 PM9/30/23
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In Jolly Roger's own words... Apple blamed everyone but Apple for the
simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
> Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
> iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
> recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
> that will be fixed shortly in an update:
>
> Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way
> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
> ---
> The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
> has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
> of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
> iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
> new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
> iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
> to solve the problem.
>
> In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have
> identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than
> expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
> device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased
> background activity.*"
>
> This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
> content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
> search.
>
> Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
> "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
> will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
> what the bug actually is.
>
> "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are
> causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
> with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
> out.*"
>
> One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it
> claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the
> battery for brief periods of time.
>
> Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
> when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
> time.
>
> While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
> launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
> too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their
> iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
> 17.
>
> Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
> there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.
> ---
simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
> Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
> iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
> recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
> that will be fixed shortly in an update:
>
> Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way
> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
> ---
> The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
> has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
> of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
> iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
> new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
> iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
> to solve the problem.
>
> In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have
> identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than
> expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
> device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased
> background activity.*"
>
> This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
> content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
> search.
>
> Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
> "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
> will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
> what the bug actually is.
>
> "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are
> causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
> with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
> out.*"
>
> One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it
> claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the
> battery for brief periods of time.
>
> Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
> when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
> time.
>
> While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
> launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
> too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their
> iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
> 17.
>
> Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
> there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.
> ---
Alan
Sep 30, 2023, 4:23:11 PM9/30/23
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On 2023-09-30 13:06, Wally J wrote:
> In Jolly Roger's own words... Apple blamed everyone but Apple for the
> simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
Your own words are that you never say anything that isn't factual...
> In Jolly Roger's own words... Apple blamed everyone but Apple for the
> simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
...and that the defect was in the iPhone 15 itself.
Explain, please.
Jolly Roger
Sep 30, 2023, 4:33:17 PM9/30/23
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On 2023-09-30, Wally J <walte...@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> In Jolly Roger's own words... Apple blamed everyone but Apple for the
> simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
The record shows I never said Apple blamed anyone.
> In Jolly Roger's own words... Apple blamed everyone but Apple for the
> simple fact that Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 before selling it.
The record shows Apple actually said they've determined a bug in iOS 17
and bugs in some popular third-party apps are the cause of the issue,
and that they are working to release an OS update and working with third
parties to fix these issues.
The record shows the only person talking about "blame" here is the
resident man-child troll, Arlen (Wally J).
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JR
Wally J
Sep 30, 2023, 6:42:16 PM9/30/23
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
> The record shows I never said Apple blamed anyone.
You posted that Apple blamed virtually everything that Apple could blame.
For example, Instagram.
> The record shows Apple actually said they've determined a bug in iOS 17
> and bugs in some popular third-party apps are the cause of the issue,
> and that they are working to release an OS update and working with third
> parties to fix these issues.
You didn't notice Apple (cleverly) blamed everything that they could think
of to blame - *all of which existed _prior_ to the sales of the iPhone 15*?
Not only is Apple blowing smoke around the issue - but Apple is openly and
clearly admitting they didn't sufficiently test the defective iPhones.
How else could so many things be wrong with these defective iPhones, JR?
> The record shows the only person talking about "blame" here is the
> resident man-child troll...
And yet, it's Apple who blamed everything Apple could possibly think of.
Which is why intelligent adults (e.g., badgolferman and I for example),
have opined that Apple is hiding something among a cloud of smoke.
I suspect, based on the fact Apple blamed everything they could think of to
blame, that the real problem is _hidden_ among one of those many things.
Most likely Apple royally fucked up in the IPhone 15 hardware design.
Apple is likely scared to death to admit how badly they fucked up the
design so what Apple seems to be doing is trying to hide it in a cloud of
smoke - by blaming everything possible for why iPhones are oveheating.
But time will tell.
> The record shows I never said Apple blamed anyone.
For example, Instagram.
> The record shows Apple actually said they've determined a bug in iOS 17
> and bugs in some popular third-party apps are the cause of the issue,
> and that they are working to release an OS update and working with third
> parties to fix these issues.
of to blame - *all of which existed _prior_ to the sales of the iPhone 15*?
Not only is Apple blowing smoke around the issue - but Apple is openly and
clearly admitting they didn't sufficiently test the defective iPhones.
How else could so many things be wrong with these defective iPhones, JR?
> The record shows the only person talking about "blame" here is the
And yet, it's Apple who blamed everything Apple could possibly think of.
Which is why intelligent adults (e.g., badgolferman and I for example),
have opined that Apple is hiding something among a cloud of smoke.
I suspect, based on the fact Apple blamed everything they could think of to
blame, that the real problem is _hidden_ among one of those many things.
Most likely Apple royally fucked up in the IPhone 15 hardware design.
Apple is likely scared to death to admit how badly they fucked up the
design so what Apple seems to be doing is trying to hide it in a cloud of
smoke - by blaming everything possible for why iPhones are oveheating.
But time will tell.
Jolly Roger
Sep 30, 2023, 6:48:11 PM9/30/23
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On 2023-09-30, Wally J <walte...@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> The record shows I never said Apple blamed anyone.
>
> You posted that Apple blamed
I never once used the word "blamed" - that's all *you*.
>
>> The record shows I never said Apple blamed anyone.
>
> You posted that Apple blamed
Your trolls are as weak as your character, Arlen.
Wally J
Sep 30, 2023, 11:50:46 PM9/30/23
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
> I never once used the word "blamed" - that's all *you*.
It's Apple who blamed everything under the sun for their lack of testing.
Doesn't it shock you, Jolly Roger, that Apple reported so many things
wrong with these defective iPhones the moment they were forced to look?
> I never once used the word "blamed" - that's all *you*.
Doesn't it shock you, Jolly Roger, that Apple reported so many things
wrong with these defective iPhones the moment they were forced to look?
Alan
Sep 30, 2023, 11:57:11 PM9/30/23
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On 2023-09-30 20:50, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> I never once used the word "blamed" - that's all *you*.
>
> It's Apple who blamed everything under the sun for their lack of testing.
That's simple false, Arlen.
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> I never once used the word "blamed" - that's all *you*.
>
> It's Apple who blamed everything under the sun for their lack of testing.
Why must you lie?
Wally J
Oct 1, 2023, 2:12:03 AM10/1/23
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
>> Everything Apple blamed
>
> Apple didn't blame. They simply explained the cause and promised a fix.
I'm going to ask _adult_ questions of you, Jolly Roger... is that OK?
I wonder if it ever occurs to you that Apple clearly never sufficiently
tested the defective iPhone 15 until the shit hit the fan in the news.
When Apple was forced to test the defective iPhone 15 sufficiently...
Then Apple found a ton of things that were causing the overheating problem.
It doesn't even occur to you, Jolly Roger... that this is what happened?
>> Everything Apple blamed
>
> Apple didn't blame. They simply explained the cause and promised a fix.
I'm going to ask _adult_ questions of you, Jolly Roger... is that OK?
I wonder if it ever occurs to you that Apple clearly never sufficiently
tested the defective iPhone 15 until the shit hit the fan in the news.
When Apple was forced to test the defective iPhone 15 sufficiently...
Then Apple found a ton of things that were causing the overheating problem.
It doesn't even occur to you, Jolly Roger... that this is what happened?
Wally J
Oct 1, 2023, 2:58:20 PM10/1/23
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
>> That's your response
>
> Yes, because you are a clown.
It's interesting that the adults provide facts and the iKooks can't.
The facts about Apple products are always what the iKooks can't stand.
1. Apple produced a defective iPhone.
2. The fact it's overheating is the defect.
3. Apple never even once tested the iPhone for that defect.
Then... when the shit hit the fan such that Apple had to act...
A. Apple (for the first time!) tested the defective iPhone for overheating.
B. And Apple found (much to their surprise) lots & lots of reasons for it.
C. Such that Apple instantly _blamed everyone but Apple_ for those defects.
Not only are those incontrovertible facts about what happened, but the fact
is the iKooks _hate_ that adults not only noticed - but that adults
remembered this is a classic pattern for Apple over the years.
a. Apple _never sufficiently tested_ the defective iPhones
b. Apple was eventually _forced to test_ the defective iPhones
c. Apple _blamed everyone but Apple_ for the defects in those iPhones.
Such is Apple.
>> That's your response
>
> Yes, because you are a clown.
It's interesting that the adults provide facts and the iKooks can't.
The facts about Apple products are always what the iKooks can't stand.
1. Apple produced a defective iPhone.
2. The fact it's overheating is the defect.
3. Apple never even once tested the iPhone for that defect.
Then... when the shit hit the fan such that Apple had to act...
A. Apple (for the first time!) tested the defective iPhone for overheating.
B. And Apple found (much to their surprise) lots & lots of reasons for it.
C. Such that Apple instantly _blamed everyone but Apple_ for those defects.
Not only are those incontrovertible facts about what happened, but the fact
is the iKooks _hate_ that adults not only noticed - but that adults
remembered this is a classic pattern for Apple over the years.
a. Apple _never sufficiently tested_ the defective iPhones
b. Apple was eventually _forced to test_ the defective iPhones
c. Apple _blamed everyone but Apple_ for the defects in those iPhones.
Such is Apple.
Wally J
Oct 1, 2023, 3:29:52 PM10/1/23
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Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote
> You're a loser.
Here's what happened... which is why Jolly Roger hates me.
1. Apple designed a defective iPhone 15 & sold it to consumers untested.
2. The shit hit the fan when those untested defective iPhones overheated.
3. Apple finally tested them and blamed a plethora of reasons for that.
Because of those facts... Jolly Roger declares me... a loser.
WTF?
> You're a loser.
Here's what happened... which is why Jolly Roger hates me.
1. Apple designed a defective iPhone 15 & sold it to consumers untested.
2. The shit hit the fan when those untested defective iPhones overheated.
3. Apple finally tested them and blamed a plethora of reasons for that.
Because of those facts... Jolly Roger declares me... a loser.
WTF?
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