New vulnerabilities (described as numerous) have been detected in Apple’s Image I/O

[Arlen Holder]

Yet again, as always, the lack-of-testing story never improves...

Verbatim, reported today...
"New vulnerabilities (described as 'numerous') have been detected in Apple's Image I/O"
o Google's Project Zero team find 'numerous Apple vulnerabilities'
<http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/technology/google-s-project-zero-team-find-numerous-apple-vulnerabilities/article/571144>

"A new issue for Apple. Google researchers have identified multiple
vulnerabilities in an image parsing code, which could affect Mac and iPhone
users. To address the issue, Apple [is] bringing forward their new iOS and
macOS updates."

"There's a 'Catch-22' situation otherwise: the vulnerability can
introduce a serious crash bug, which renders users unable to download and
install the required updated. To overcome this dilemma, Apple are
apparently fast-tracking the release of iOS 13.5 together with patches
suitable for Macs and iPhones."

See also:
o Google Surprises Apple iPhone, iPad, Mac Users: Disclosing Security Vulnerabilities!
<https://technoinfoplus.com/google-surprises-apple-iphone-ipad-mac-users-disclosing-security-vulnerabilities-2/>
"Once again Google surprises Apple with it's new vulnerabilities to many
devices. Last year project Zero bug-hunters caused a big media Stir. That
discloses security vulnerabilities in iOS devices."

*"All the [past] blame went to china."*
/(i.e., Apple, as always, deflected blame away from their lack of testing)/

See also:
o Fuzzing ImageIO
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2020/04/fuzzing-imageio.html>
"Unfortunately it is also likely that other bugs remain or will be
introduced in the future. As such, continuous fuzz-testing of this and
similar media format parsing code as well as aggressive attack-surface
reduction, both in operating system libraries (in this case ImageIO) as
well as messenger apps (by restricting the number of accepted image formats
on the receiver) are recommended."
--
IMHO, this is likely why Apple is taking so long with the huge Mail
vulnerability which opened up 1-1/2 billion devices for almost a decade!

[Arlen Holder]

UPDATE:

o *Google discloses zero-click bugs impacting several Apple operating systems*
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-discloses-zero-click-bugs-impacting-several-apple-operating-systems/>

"From an attacker's perspective, bugs in multimedia processing components
are the ideal attack surface, as they don't need any user interaction
before having the ability to run code on a remote device/OS."

"Project Zero researchers looked at Image I/O, a framework that's built
into all Apple operating systems"

"The framework ships with iOS, macOS, tvOS, and watchOS, and most apps
running on these operating systems rely on it to process image metadata."

"Researchers said they identified six vulnerabilities in Image I/O [1, 2,
3, 4, 5, 6], and another eight in OpenEXR, an open-source library for
parsing EXR image files that ships as a third-party component with Image
I/O."

It's lucky for Apple that Google tests their code for them, for free.
o That frees up money for Apple's huge MARKETNIG budget to tout its safety!
--
Apologists don't realize why they blame Google & Microsoft for Apple bugs.

[Your Name]

On 2020-05-03 23:36:54 +0000, Arlen Holder said:

> Yet again, as always, the lack-of-testing story never improves...

<snip>

The f'wit troll posts yet more ignoratn anti-Apple crap under yet
another name. :-\

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 04.05.20 um 08:36 schrieb Your Name:

Not another name: Just a minor change of the invalid mail-address.

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote :

>> The f'wit troll posts yet more ignoratn anti-Apple crap under yet
>> another name. :-\
>
> Not another name: Just a minor change of the invalid mail-address.

You apologists always prove, in every way, to be fantastically stupid.
o It's shocking the kinds of problems you apologists complain about.

There's a reason for the random changes in all the NNTP headers...
o Which you apologists couldn't possibly fathom...

Which is privacy... against robotic mass archival methods
o Such as Google (and others)...

You don't even notice the random changes of, oh, say the time zones
o And the random changes of the newsreader and other headers

None of which matter because the VALUE of an NNTP post isn't in the header
o It's in the BODY (and SUBJECT) of the post...

Only you utter apologist fools feel the value is in the header...
o Simply because none of you add value in the article body or post.

If you can't recognize my posts from either the BODY or SUBJECT...
o Then I posit that you're an utter fool.

Yet, even the blatantly obvious you apologists can't recognize it seems...
o Since anyone even only slightly intelligent can tell my posts a mile away

Under any NNTP header...
o Which just goes to prove... yet again... you apologists are fools.
--
The dumber the apologist, the more they believe what's in the HEADER.

[Tony Cooper]

On Mon, 4 May 2020 21:40:56 +0800, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@any1example.com> wrote:

There is a silver lining in every cloud. The enforced separation that
we are now enduring means that we won't be able to attend a function
where someone like Arlen Holder is seated next to you or corners you
at a party and drones on for hours about some minor point.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Tony Cooper <tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote :

> There is a silver lining in every cloud. The enforced separation that
> we are now enduring means that we won't be able to attend a function
> where someone like Arlen Holder is seated next to you or corners you
> at a party and drones on for hours about some minor point.

Hi Tony Cooper, (whom I know well from the alt.usage.english newsgroup),
o <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.usage.english>

Wisdom you speak... although you likely know it not.
o *The _less_ you apologists post, the more valuable Usenet is to everyone.*

*This "enforced separation" works both ways to our mutual advantage:*
1. You don't have to see any & all facts about Apple you simply won't like.
2. I won't have to read your posts which _never_ add any value anyway.

*In fact, I benefit even _more_ than you do for the simplest of reasons:*
3. I put "work" (& credibility) into my well-cited responses; you don't.

*This conservation of energy has advantages to the third parties involved:*
4. They don't have to endure the endless childish morass you drag us into.

There is even another advantage to you worthless pieces of shit, Tony
o Which you've likely _never_ even noticed (since you're too stupid)
5. You can _still_ post your worthless drivel on threads I don't author

Adults will note that I use an FAQ model on Usenet
o The value isn't in the header - the value is in the BODY.
o Who I am isn't important; what I say is what matters.
o My material facts have _never_ even once been wrong in decades of posting.(1)

Adults also note the worthless pieces of shit use the chit-chat model.
o They are on Usenet merely for their own amusement
o They don't have a strategic purpose - they don't spend energy on facts
o Hell, they don't even _click_ on the cites when they're provided them.

*The _less_ you apologists post, the more valuable Usenet is to everyone.*

(1) While my facts have never once in the entire history of Usenet been
materially wrong, there are times I don't lay out all the caveats in every
post, or, at times, a minor thinko/typo creeps in, which the apologists
love to semantically capitalize upon; but it doesn't change the fact that
I'm extremely well educated so I know that credibility is all important
when it comes to facts. (Also note apologists have no clue that a fact is
different from an assessment of that fact - where adults never disagree on
facts - facts are funny that way - but adults can reasonably and logically
disagree on assessments of those facts - adults are funny that way).

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 04.05.20 um 15:40 schrieb Arlen Holder:

> In response to what Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote :
>
>>> The f'wit troll posts yet more ignoratn anti-Apple crap under yet
>>> another name. :-\
>>
>> Not another name: Just a minor change of the invalid mail-address.
>
> You apologists always prove, in every way, to be fantastically stupid.
> o It's shocking the kinds of problems you apologists complain about.
>
> There's a reason for the random changes in all the NNTP headers...
> o Which you apologists couldn't possibly fathom...

Listen little boy,

To filter you is soooo easy.
Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
alias Newton.

[sms]

On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

<snip>

> To filter you is soooo easy.
> Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
> German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
> Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder

With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
that part of his fake name in a long time.

I think what's sad is that he really could provide useful information on
some occasions, probably about 40% of what he posts is factual. If he
took the snarkiness out of that 40% of factual informntion, and dropped
the other 60%, he could rehabilitate himself.

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote :

> With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
> that part of his fake name in a long time.

Hi Steve,

Sometimes you act like an apologists...
o Other times you act like a normal adult.

Let me ask you a simple question, assuming you can act like a normal adult:

Do you think it would take more than a second for an _intelligent_ person
o To figure out my posts from either the SUBJECT or the BODY?

FACT:
I change the time zone randomly in my headers (among other things).
ASSESSMENT:
It's _only_ the child-like apologists who claim they can't figure out my
posts without the full header always being exactly the same every time.

> I think what's sad is that he really could provide useful information on
> some occasions, probably about 40% of what he posts is factual.

Hi Steve,

Ah. That's _different_.
o You just said something _different_ than what you said before:
o Steve claims Arlen is only 60% correct where Arlen is 100% correct on material facts
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/u7yQ959XPRU/a9jvGbXfAwAJ>

My FACTS are _always_ 100% correct (note 1).
o Can you tell the difference between fact & assessment of fact?

What you seem to not like more than half the time (i.e., 60%) are my
"assessments" of fact.

That's fine since adults _often_ disagree on assessments of facts.
o It's actual FACTS that adults should _always_ agree on
HINT: That's part of what makes adults adults in the first place!

> If he
> took the snarkiness out of that 40% of factual informntion, and dropped
> the other 60%, he could rehabilitate himself.

You just don't like my "assessments" of facts (and that's ok).
o Here are some examples, which you just don't like (and that's OK).

FACT 1:
o My Moto G7 has 8 cores versus the new iPhone 2020 SE has 6 cores.
Assessment:
o Some people (not me, but some people) would assess the 8-core CPU as
"better", but I would say there are a _lot_ more facts we have to consider
before someone could claim either CPU superior or inferior.

Here's another example:
FACT 2:
o I paid $100 for my Moto G7 & you can get the iPhone 2020 SE for $200.
Assessment:
o Some people would say that the Moto G7 is a better value (not me but some
people, where I would look at a _lot_ of features before I made that
claim).

Here's one more example:
FACT 3:
o Google said Apple couldn't possibly have tested the iOS code in question.
ASSESSMENT:
o Some people, me included, would say this is yet another indication (of
many) that Apple doesn't sufficiently test iOS code, at the same time that
Apple frequently promotes that they're the "safer" choice.

Notice NOBODY who is an ADULT would disagree with ANY of the facts.
o Facts are funny that way in that rational adults never disagree on facts.
[Note: There are degrees of facts which we assume in that statement.]

Yet MANY PEOPLE could reasonably disagree with the ASSESSMENTS of those facts.
o Some people love Apple, so they lean toward Apple centric judgments...
o Other people want value & functionality, where they lean away from Apple.

In summary, my FACTS are never wrong(1); but Steve doesn't agree with my
"assessments" of the ramifications of more than half of those facts.

That's fine.
o For example, Steve _still_ believes Qualcomm got _less_ from Apple.
o And yet, the facts prove Apple is paying _more_ to Qualcomm per phone.

The one thing none of you should ever try to test me on, are the facts.
o You're all welcome to disagree on the assessment of those facts.
--
The statement that Apple SURRENDERED to Qualcomm is an ASSESSMENT of the
obvious FACT Apple is paying through the nose for Qualcomm's 5G technology.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-05-04 1:10 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> In response to what sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote :
>
>> With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't
>> changed that part of his fake name in a long time.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Sometimes you act like an apologists...
> o Other times you act like a normal adult.

As if you're qualified to make that determination...

No. Google never ever said that...

...Liar.

> ASSESSMENT:
> o Some people, me included, would say this is yet another indication (of
> many) that Apple doesn't sufficiently test iOS code, at the same time that
> Apple frequently promotes that they're the "safer" choice.
>
> Notice NOBODY who is an ADULT would disagree with ANY of the facts.
> o Facts are funny that way in that rational adults never disagree on facts.
>  [Note: There are degrees of facts which we assume in that statement.]

Notice that you stating something is a fact...

...doesn't actually MAKE IT a fact.

>
> Yet MANY PEOPLE could reasonably disagree with the ASSESSMENTS of those
> facts.
> o Some people love Apple, so they lean toward Apple centric judgments...
> o Other people want value & functionality, where they lean away from Apple.
>
> In summary, my FACTS are never wrong(1); but Steve doesn't agree with my
> "assessments" of the ramifications of more than half of those facts.

Your "facts" were wrong when you called the message that popped up in
iOS regarding the consequences of turning on dictation services Apple's
"Privacy Policy"...

...because that pop up message referred to Apple's privacy policy...

...and a thing doesn't have to refer you elsewhere if it is the thing to
which it is referring you...

...right, Liar?

>
> That's fine.
> o For example, Steve _still_ believes Qualcomm got _less_ from Apple.
> o And yet, the facts prove Apple is paying _more_ to Qualcomm per phone.

That is an ASSERTION, Liar.

[Arlen Holder]

Regarding this thread...

o Steve claims Arlen is only 60% correct where Arlen is 100% correct on material facts
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/u7yQ959XPRU/a9jvGbXfAwAJ>

Only now...
o We find out Steve disagrees with 60% of my _assessments_ of fact.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/RrXonVt7_y0/NIoktIY2AQAJ>
VERBATIM:

"I think what's sad is that he really could provide useful information on

some occasions, probably about 40% of what he posts is factual. If he
took the snarkiness out of that 40% of factual informntion [sic], and

dropped the other 60%, he could rehabilitate himself."

Notice that an adult comprehends these are two different things:
a. A fact
b. An assessment of that fact

Facts are facts, which is something that all adults agree upon.
o Facts are what makes science science and engineering engineering.

What adults can easily disagree upon are _assessments_ of those facts.

An example of a fact is, for example:
o The SARS-CoV-2 virus has a spike protein activated by furin & ACE2.

An example of an assessment of that fact could be, for example:
o That's one of the key traits that makes this virus attach so well.

Notice, the fact is that the furin enzyme cleaves the glycoprotein spike
studding the coronavirus envelope (it's why it's called a "corona" virus).

That cleaved spike now has an affinity for your ciliated lung cells which
is orders of magnitude better than SARS-CoV-1 had, where classical SARS
doesn't have the furin-activated receptor activity.

Here is another fact & assessment example:
A. The fact is that ACE2 & furin enzymes are in lung, liver, & intestines.

Here is an assessment of that fact:
B. That's why this SARS-CoV-2 attacks lung, liver, & intestines well.

Here's yet another fact & assessment example:
A. The fact is SARS-CoV-2 virus is of zoonotic origin (bats most likely).

Here's an assessment of that fact:
B. Hence our humoral immune system is ineffective at first, which leaves us
ot the innate immune system, which has problems (e.g., cytokine storms).

Notice that I said a _lot_ in those ad hoc examples, all of which are
scientifically based, where my main point is that adults need to comprehend
the difference between a FACT and an ASSESSMENT of that fact
(often called an "opinion").

My facts are never wrong(1).
o It's the assessment of those facts which you apologists disagree with.
--
Note that apologists actually try to refute facts, which is why I assess
apologists as owning the mind of a small child, since adults never disagree
with facts (facts are funny that way).

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-05-04 1:29 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> Regarding this thread...
> o Steve claims Arlen is only 60% correct where Arlen is 100% correct on
> material facts
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/u7yQ959XPRU/a9jvGbXfAwAJ>
>
>

> My facts are never wrong(1).
> o It's the assessment of those facts which you apologists disagree with.

You claimed as a fact that a message about "Location Services & Privacy"
was Apple's "Privacy Policy"...

...and that wasn't a fact, was it, Liar?

[Your Name]

On 2020-05-04 18:27:29 +0000, sms said:

> On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> To filter you is soooo easy.
>> Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
>> German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
>> Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
>
> With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
> that part of his fake name in a long time.

Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well ... they all
suffer because some moronic asswipe with the same name is a braindead
troll.

> I think what's sad is that he really could provide useful information
> on some occasions, probably about 40% of what he posts is factual. If
> he took the snarkiness out of that 40% of factual informntion, and
> dropped the other 60%, he could rehabilitate himself.

Nothing the moron posts is "useful information". It's specifically
posted as misinformation and half-truths because the moron is simply a
know-nothing anti-Apple troll.

[Savageduck]

On May 4, 2020, Your Name wrote
(in article <r8q4aq$1fq4$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 2020-05-04 18:27:29 +0000, sms said:
>
> > On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > To filter you is soooo easy.
> > > Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
> > > German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
> > > Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
> >
> > With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
> > that part of his fake name in a long time.
>
> Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well ... they all
> suffer because some moronic asswipe with the same name is a braindead
> troll.

It is so much better if one resists the urge to respond to him, and his trollish posts in any way, as that just results in the annoying, and noisy ongoing flamewars.

I have found that along with filtering the multitude of nymshifts over the years, the current persona *Arlen Holder* with various changes to middle initial, and email address, with Hogwasher is best filtered with two simple filter/rule entries:

For all articles; If any of the following conditions are met:

1: Author contains “Arlen"

2: Author contains “Holder”

Unfortunately if there is any potential poster sharing either “Arlen”, or “Holder” they will be collateral damage in the name of a noise free Usenet.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote :

> Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well

Hi Your Name,

*Once you understand apologists, you'll understand why they hate facts.*

In fact, you apologists are proving you're so _afraid_ of facts.
o That you attack the mere _messenger_ of those facts.

So much that you'll plonk any and all facts about Apple products...
o Simply because facts _scare_ you that much.

Interesting...

Apologists have absolutely no adult defense to the facts themselves.
o Which has always been my point about you child-like apologists.

Adults are aware I've been studying you apologists for years...
o Much like Dunning & Kruger studied the lemon-juice bank robber...

You apologists clearly are deathly afraid of the facts in the OP
o So afraid of facts - that you attack the mere messenger.

Why?

Why are you always so deathly _afraid_ of mere facts?
o Why do you have no _adult_ defense against the facts in the opening post?

What is so different about you apologists...
o That mere facts petrify you so very much?

I think I know why.
o But do you know why you killfile all facts you simply don't want to hear?
--
Once you understand apologists, you'll understand why they hate facts.

[Lewis]

In message <0001HW.2460D2F801...@news.giganews.com> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 2020, Your Name wrote
> (in article <r8q4aq$1fq4$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):

>> On 2020-05-04 18:27:29 +0000, sms said:
>>
>> > On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > > To filter you is soooo easy.
>> > > Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
>> > > German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
>> > > Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
>> >
>> > With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
>> > that part of his fake name in a long time.
>>
>> Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well ... they all
>> suffer because some moronic asswipe with the same name is a braindead
>> troll.

I'm fine with that.

> It is so much better if one resists the urge to respond to him, and his trollish posts in any way, as that just results in the annoying, and noisy ongoing flamewars.

Some people seem to be incapable of replying to him. The ones who OLD
reply to him, I also killfile.

> 1: Author contains “Arlen"
> 2: Author contains “Holder”

He has used many many nyms in the past that do not match either of those
criteria.

I take it a step further, in addition to killfiling all of his various
nyms, I killfile nearly all the replies to anything infant troll dipshit
posts. That makes the groups very quite, but I see far less stupidity
and Trumpian narcissism.

(I do the same with slakerboi)

> Unfortunately if there is any potential poster sharing either “Arlen”, or “Holder” they will be collateral damage in the name of a noise free Usenet.

Unlikely to be an issue.

--
K is for KATE who was struck by an axe L is for Leo who swallowed
some tacks

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote :

> For all articles; If any of the following conditions are met:

Hi Savageduck,

You and I go back decades, so I know you rather well.

One _adult_ question for you, and that one adult question only...

*Why do you have no _adult_ response to the facts in the opening post?*
--
Apologists like Savageduck have no adult defense to facts.

[Lewis]

In message <slrnrb1l9r....@ProMini.lan> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Some people seem to be incapable of replying to him.

of NOT replying to him, obviously. Sorry.

> The ones who OLD

ONLY

--
IT DOES NOT SUCK TO BE YOU Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF13

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote :

> I take it a step further, in addition to killfiling all of his various
> nyms, I killfile nearly all the replies to anything infant troll dipshit
> posts. That makes the groups very quite, but I see far less stupidity
> and Trumpian narcissism.

Lewis,

Ignoring the obvious fact you can't even compose a simple insult sans
spelling errors, what I ask you is the same I ask of any supposed adult...

*Why do you have no _adult_ response to the facts in the opening post?*
--

Apologists are so deathly afraid of facts that they killfile all facts.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-05-04 7:54 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> In response to what Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote :
>
>> For all articles; If any of the following conditions are met:
>
> Hi Savageduck,
>
> You and I go back decades, so I know you rather well.
>
> One _adult_ question for you, and that one adult question only...
>
> *Why do you have no _adult_ response to the facts in the opening post?*

One actual adult question:

Why do you claim things as facts...

...that aren't actually fact?

[Savageduck]

On May 4, 2020, Lewis wrote
(in article <slrnrb1l9r....@ProMini.lan>):

> In message<0001HW.2460D2F801...@news.giganews.com> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > On May 4, 2020, Your Name wrote
> > (in article<r8q4aq$1fq4$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
>
> > > On 2020-05-04 18:27:29 +0000, sms said:
> > >
> > > > On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > To filter you is soooo easy.
> > > > > Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
> > > > > German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
> > > > > Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
> > > >
> > > > With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
> > > > that part of his fake name in a long time.
> > >
> > > Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well ... they all
> > > suffer because some moronic asswipe with the same name is a braindead
> > > troll.
>
> I'm fine with that.
>
> > It is so much better if one resists the urge to respond to him, and his trollish posts in any way, as that just results in the annoying, and noisy ongoing flamewars.
>
> Some people seem to be incapable of replying to him. The ones who OLD
> reply to him, I also killfile.
>
> > 1: Author contains “Arlen"
> > 2: Author contains “Holder”
>
> He has used many many nyms in the past that do not match either of those
> criteria.

Yup!I did say his current persona.

After some 40+ nyms, and variations he is easily detectable so filters/kill files can be updated. I am sure you remember when he wore the hats of: “Stijn De Jong”, "Raymond Spruance III”, “Algeria Horan”, “Tomos Davies”, "Harold Newton”, the various versions of “Ragnusen”, “Chaya Eve”, "Lionel Muller”, "Roy Tremblay”, “Blake Snyder”, and so many others.

>
> I take it a step further, in addition to killfiling all of his various
> nyms, I killfile nearly all the replies to anything infant troll dipshit
> posts. That makes the groups very quite, but I see far less stupidity
> and Trumpian narcissism.
>
> (I do the same with slakerboi)

I no longer see his posts, and only see pieces of his scrawl when others reply to him.

>
> > Unfortunately if there is any potential poster sharing either “Arlen”, or “Holder” they will be collateral damage in the name of a noise free Usenet.
>
> Unlikely to be an issue.

I wouldn’t have thought so. ;-)

--
Regards,
Savageduck

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 05.05.20 um 00:18 schrieb Your Name:

> On 2020-05-04 18:27:29 +0000, sms said:
>
>> On 5/4/2020 9:39 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> To filter you is soooo easy.
>>> Whether you use aioe.org or mixmin.net as nntp-server, I don't care. In
>>> German they are called "anonyme Deppenserver" which means "anonymous
>>> Troll-Server". They are blacklisted anyway, Ragnussen alias Arlen Holder
>>
>> With Thunderbird you just use "contains" and "arlen." He hasn't changed
>> that part of his fake name in a long time.
>
> Except that then blocks anyone else named "Arlen" as well ... they all
> suffer because some moronic asswipe with the same name is a braindead
> troll.

From a probabilty standpoint that is less likely than to win the
national lottery. And criterias can be combined in the filter to lower
the likelihood of collateral damage further.

>> I think what's sad is that he really could provide useful information
>> on some occasions, probably about 40% of what he posts is factual. If
>> he took the snarkiness out of that 40% of factual informntion, and
>> dropped the other 60%, he could rehabilitate himself.
>
> Nothing the moron posts is "useful information". It's specifically
> posted as misinformation and half-truths because the moron is simply a
> know-nothing anti-Apple troll.

Yep. And he needs urgently psychlogical and professional help.

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Alan Baker <notony...@no.no.no.no> wrote :

> One actual adult question:
>
> Why do you claim things as facts...
>
> ...that aren't actually fact?

Savageduck,

I'm an adult.
o If I claim a fact is a fact - then it's a fact.

*Name a _single_ fact, I've said is a fact, that you claim was wrong?*
o Name just one.

Back that up with even a _single_ fact, Savageduck.
o Notice, imaginary belief systems are based on exactly _zero_ (0) facts.

If you can't find one, in my many thousands of posts, then I claim your
belief system is based on exactly zero (0) facts.

Of all the apologists other than Steve and potentially nospam, you actually
"can" contribute value, particularly to the rec.photo.digital ng and
somewhat to the Mac ng, if not so much to the iOS newsgroups.

So losing your input (on photo stuff) or Steve's (on iOS) stuff is a
detriment, where it seems both of you don't know the difference between:
o Fact
o Assessment

Here's an example of the difference, albeit slightly tongue in cheek:
o Fact: New vulnerabilities have been detected in Apple's Image I/O.
o Assessment: Apple didn't test their software as well as Google did.

Adults can reasonably disagree on assessments (adults are funny that way);
but adults should never disagree on facts (facts are funny that way).

Here's another example of fact versus assessment:
o Fact: I posted about reported bugs being detected in Apple's Image I/O.
o Assessment: Not a single response in this thread is on that topic.

By way of example, another way of assessing the _same_ facts, could be:
o Fact: I posted about reported bugs being detected in Apple's Image I/O.
o Assessment: The apologists who posted didn't address the facts.

Yet another way of assessing the same facts, might be:
o Fact: I posted about reported bugs being detected in Apple's Image I/O.
o Assessment: The apologists attacked me, which proves they hate facts.

Of all the people posting to this thread, Savageduck, only you and Steve
even remotely have the mental capacity to comprehend the difference between
(Steve far more so than you, but you're far more intelligent than are most
apologists, save for nospam).
o Fact
o Assessment

Do you _understand_ the simple things I'm conveying to you, Savageduck?

What you disagree with are my assessments, because nobody who is an adult
can possibly disagree with the facts (facts are funny that way).

By way of contrast, it's a bonus to all adults when utter morons like Joerg
Lorenz, Lewis, Your Name, and particularly Alan Baker who simply calls all
facts lies. (Note: The apologist nospam is in a special category, since he
actually is well aware of exactly what he says, but he has no compunctions
whatsoever of making claims that he has no plans on backing up - and he
never once has backed them up with facts).

None of them can even agree on the facts, e.g., the Joeorg Lorenz told all
of us he doesn't believe facts published by any media other than German
media.

Here's another example of facts versus assessment:
o Fact: Joerg Lorenz told us he believes only in facts from German media.
o Assessment: Joerg Lorenz will be immune to facts published elsewhere.

Since you and Steve are the rare apologists worth my effort (nospam is a
completely lost cause, but I doubt you can be made to comprehend sense
either), I simply ask you a simple adult question which will prove to all
whether you own a completely imaginary belief system, or not.

*Name a _single_ fact, I've said is a fact, that you claim was wrong?*
o Name just one.
--
Apologists can't even tell the difference between a fact and an assessment.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-05-05 7:45 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> In response to what Alan Baker <notony...@no.no.no.no> wrote :
>
>> One actual adult question:
>>
>> Why do you claim things as facts...
>>
>> ...that aren't actually fact?
>
> Savageduck,
>

I'm not "Savageduck"

> I'm an adult.
> o If I claim a fact is a fact - then it's a fact.

That is a lie.

>
> *Name a _single_ fact, I've said is a fact, that you claim was wrong?*
> o Name just one.

You claimed that a message that popped up regarding privacy when
enabling iOS dictation was Apple's official privacy policy.

You insisted this was the case over several posts.

It never was.

[Arlen Holder]

In response to what Arlen Holder <arlen...@any1example.com> wrote :

> "Researchers said they identified six vulnerabilities in Image I/O [1, 2,
> 3, 4, 5, 6], and another eight in OpenEXR, an open-source library for
> parsing EXR image files that ships as a third-party component with Image
> I/O."

For the permanent record, adults will note salient facts on this thread.

FACTS:
a. The OP contains important facts about Apple vulnerabilities
b. Absolutely none of the responses have _anything_ to do with those facts.

ASSESSMENT:
a. The bugs exist. Google found them. Apple didn't.
b. Apologists, en masse, directly attacked the messenger of those facts.

Why?
o You tell me why.

My assessment is these apologists are quite unlike normal adults.
o Simply because Apple didn't sufficiently test their Image IO code.

What's your adult assessment of these facts?
--
Bringing TRUTH to Apple newsgroups through simple application of fact.