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Anyone know if this Android "fake IMSI catchers" software works & exists for iOS?

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Arthur Jones

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Nov 23, 2014, 2:46:33 PM11/23/14
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Does anyone use this "IMSI-Catcher Detector" on their mobile device?
Does it work?
Is there an equivalent for iOS?

Description:
Detect fake base stations (IMSI-Catchers) in GSM/UMTS Networks.

Site:
http://secupwn.github.io/Android-IMSI-Catcher-Detector/

Freeware:
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=com.SecUpwN.AIMSICD

Andrew Beckett

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Nov 24, 2014, 2:26:40 AM11/24/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:46:33 +0000, Arthur Jones wrote:

> Does anyone use this "IMSI-Catcher Detector" on their mobile device?

The similar Roaming Info reports when the carrier has changed on you.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdcategory=Phone+%26+SMS&fdid=com.brapeba.roaminginfo

Andrew Beckett

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Nov 24, 2014, 2:37:22 AM11/24/14
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:26:36 +0000, Andrew Beckett wrote:

There is also a GSM security mapper available for some devices.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdcategory=Science+%26+Education&fdid=de.srlabs.gsmmap

Andrew Beckett

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Nov 24, 2014, 11:07:03 AM11/24/14
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:46:33 +0000, Arthur Jones wrote:

> Does anyone use this "IMSI-Catcher Detector" on their mobile device?
> Does it work?

I just installed the imsi catcher detector on my android phone.
It reports a single screen with three items on the screen.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2e4ja5h.png

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that information though.
How can I tell it's a /real/ tower or not?


BobbyK

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Nov 24, 2014, 11:33:03 AM11/24/14
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An even more relevant question since this is an iPhone forum; is there
such an app for iPhone?

Andrew Beckett

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Nov 24, 2014, 5:54:57 PM11/24/14
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:33:01 -0600, BobbyK wrote:

> An even more relevant question since this is an iPhone forum;
> is there such an app for iPhone?

It should exist, since an iPhone is just as vulnerable to
cell tower spoofing as an Android phone.

I've been testing the two apps on Android, and while imsi
catcher detector reports the cellphone tower, what I really
want is a /log/ of the changes.

Then, all I'd want is a pop up when a cellphone tower is
deemed suspicious (based on a given set of conditions).

Neither of the three free apps I tested do that, but, two of
the three I tested (1 and 2 below) tell you a lot of cell tower
information, while I couldn't get the third to tell me anything,
and the fourth free app only works on rooted Samsung phones.

1. wigle
2. imsi catcher detector
3. roaming info
4. gsmmap

Rod Speed

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Nov 24, 2014, 9:08:50 PM11/24/14
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Andrew Beckett <abeckett@cad_org.invalid> wrote
> BobbyK wrote

>> An even more relevant question since this is an
>> iPhone forum; is there such an app for iPhone?

> It should exist, since an iPhone is just as vulnerable
> to cell tower spoofing as an Android phone.

The problem is whether iOS allows the app access to the
data that it needed to decide if it’s a fake IMSI catcher.

I ran into that problem with something as simple as an
OBDII adapter for cars which allow you to see the engine
diagnostic codes and sensor data on a phone or tablet.
The ones that use bluetooth don’t work with iphones
and ipads because of the detail of how bluetooth is done
by iOS. They work fine with android phones and tablets.

Andrew Beckett

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Nov 24, 2014, 10:16:32 PM11/24/14
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:54:51 +0000, Andrew Beckett wrote:

> 1. wigle
> 2. imsi catcher detector
> 3. roaming info
> 4. gsmmap

Here's a quick summary of my testing, after a day:
1. wigle => reports the current cell tower (lots of numbers)
2. imsi catcher detector => reports the current cell tower
3. roaming info => I can't figure out what this one does
4. gsmmap => only works on rooted Samsung devices

None of them, to my knowledge, pop up a warning when/if the
tower does something funky, and none leave a log that I know
of for you to manually check.

Given that you have to check in real time, they're not all
that useful.

But, it's a start.

cita90...@gmail.com

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Jan 4, 2015, 2:27:23 PM1/4/15
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El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 04:16:32 UTC+1, Andrew Beckett escribió:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:54:51 +0000, Andrew Beckett wrote:
> But, it's a start.

"IMSI catcher catcher" StingRay counter surveillance project proposal from www.cita.es in Madrid, Spain now open for international comments at http://goo.gl/iKPwQ8

We are looking for partners in every European country interested in R&D and judicial actions, in an European Economic Interest Grouping (EEIG), or with a contract to negotiate in each case but now we appreciate comments and proposals considering the draft at http://goo.gl/QGxysR

After years researching and expert witnessing on counter surveillance right now we work on
1. Any technology or equipment that can get audio or metadata from GSM mobile phones
2. Any instrument useful to detect IMSI catchers or StingRay or fake GSM base stations
3. Any expert witnessing approach for Courts of Law while and after any GSM surveillance considering telcos responsibilities on their customers and consumers damages and risks.

Norway, Sweden, Finland and Germany noticed fake base stations with cheap systems used by journalists unofficially but in Spain there is a criminal case with evidences of illegal use of an IMSI catcher or StingRay in Madrid, so we have the chance to expert witness and learn about judiciary limits requesting telecom companies like Vodafone or Telefónica. Please read this link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O0WQHEUNoClIQ1mXsfaOc0plaJz1ASLhPjsbzI5kJbA/edit?pli=1

IMSI catching is also competition. Whatever is legal for one, must be also legal for everybody, but when a Court forbids an activity, it must be forbidden for everybody. The Government must use IMSI catchers for law enforcement only for legal purposes, but if public officials use anything like that for their own profit or to protect personal interests, the crime is on their side. We suspect why some officials in Spain are 'desperately' trying to hide use of surveillance cell towers.

We are ready to make a complaint about application of European Union law considering DIRECTIVE 2009/136/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 25 November 2009 amending Directive 2002/22/EC on universal service and users' rights relating to electronic communications networks and services, Directive 2002/58/EC concerning the processing of personal data and the protection of privacy in the electronic communications sector and Regulation (EC) No 2006/2004 on cooperation between national authorities responsible for the enforcement of consumer protection laws (risks to personal security, which may for example arise from disclosure of personal information in certain circumstances, as well as risks to privacy and personal data) as well as enquiries and complaints about application of Union law at http://ec.europa.eu/atwork/applying-eu-law/complaints_en.htm
as you can see in our draft (in Spanish but ready for automatic translation to any language) at
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhagjjDofZkivOAOLSg5-wmDDKVOi0lG_faUVDQ152o/edit

If you are interested or you can recommend customers, partners o sponsors in any country please send a message to Eng. Miguel Gallardo E-mail: cita90...@gmail.com
or call us by phone +34 902998352 CITA & APEDANICA from 9 am to 11 pm Madrid time
or just comment this document draft using the option up-right "comments" at
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Short link at http://goo.gl/iKPwQ8
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cheri...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2018, 2:39:08 AM5/18/18
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Yes it does work.. but not if it can’t do a learning period on a “normal persons” phone. I changed my number for a month and left the phone at home learning and scanning and still answered a few calls and telemarketers
I let my mate borrow the phone leaving the app on... he used it for about 2 months. Police came to the door, looking for a previous tenant. They left with a water pipe. At 12pm 2 days later the app started alerting about fake cells or suspicious logs...
Today I missed a call from an unknown mobile number. I tried to return the call 20mins later.. disconnected.. I dialed it 4times over about 5-10 mins dialing the numbers in each time... it said disconnected... an hour or 2 later I retried the disconnected number and my mate answered on a phone number that’s not his.... I totally believe it gives you an indication.. get a camera and mic blocker and leave your personal spying and tracking devices at home a little more, is my tip!!

Steve Carroll

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May 18, 2018, 3:55:30 AM5/18/18
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What is your evidence? And given how regularly it is clear that The Holy Ghost's .sig file is some misquote of a narrative Jesus Christ posted which had been a bodyslam on The Holy Ghost for something he did which was asinine/dishonest/etc... its clearly a daily reminder of The Holy Ghost's lingering embarrassment for having been so repeatedly humiliated. I have known AI programs who argue better than you do. Can you cease asking for my attention?

Jesus Christ's computer has more cores than The Holy Ghost's. Jesus Christ wins. The Holy Ghost loses. Nothing LCD about it.

Thanks to The Holy Ghost and his 'co-trolls' you now need a go / no-go list (which I made for Thunderbird and slrn). If Jesus Christ and others start up with him again I will, too... as I promised. I'm referring to good people here, not trolls, who do not enter coalitions. Translation of The Holy Ghost speak: His remarkable "technical support competence" side tracked him from a peripheral he wants that everyone else is already using with KDE.

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Steve Carroll

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May 19, 2018, 6:12:28 AM5/19/18
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Valuable content creation will be destroyed once the those of us here before the eternal September are outnumbered. That, and there will regularly be a temper tantrum or two in an open news group (i.e. DFS). The impossibility of taming a shrew aside, we've all seen who regularly pitches a fit when he doesn't get anyone on his side. LOL!

Advertising is a wonderful thing and consumer ignorance is even better.

See: I quoted specific examples of DFS stating quotable lies, trolling multiple groups, etc. His response: to claim I am DFS.

Most posters in this group do programming either as a pastime or as a job, so I doubt anybody here think of automation to be "sorcery".

Idiot.



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Steve Carroll

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May 19, 2018, 12:36:56 PM5/19/18
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On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:39:08 PM UTC-7, cheri...@gmail.com wrote:
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And, notably, Snit wrote:
"Sex is a subset of sexual activities" - Snit - (I guess he didn't comprehend point 3 very well)

Of course, he also wrote:
"Sexual activities are sex by definition, you moron" - Snit

And this:
"A passionate kiss could be called a "sexual activity" but it is not sex"

In Snit's world, a passionate kiss is not sex... but it is sex. LOL!

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Steve Carroll

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May 20, 2018, 6:20:41 AM5/20/18
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If you call getting your ass *kicked hard* left and right every single day by numerous people (and completely trashing your reputation and any reason for anyone to trust anything you have to say - forever) 'trolling', then yeah... he was a good troll. I don't personally subscribe to that definition, I use another term, I call that person a total idiot.

> He's lost that ability. Probably too many bad drugs.

He's toned down all the zillions of narcissistic, BS threads he used to create but he's really not much different in the honesty dept. He just uses socks more now to create those threads. Not that there weren't already plenty of reasons to suspect this ridiculous sock as coming from Snit but this thread shows that he's slipping in this respect:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/cTXTtY57SjM/n9mXLZpIVXoJ

I was being given GPG info and help by owl and we were both pretty much ignoring Snit all the way through. So who appears, who hadn't posted in a couple of days and then only posted to that thread on that day after Snit got tired of being ignored?
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Steve Carroll

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May 20, 2018, 11:32:27 AM5/20/18
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Once Peter Köhlmann grokked how convincing Melzzzzz is at portraying himself as the 'injured party' he understands this isn't quite as outta whack as it sounded. This is what arises when seriously poor self esteem takes over Melzzzzz's persona. Sheer hokum by a delusional, fibbing, agenda driven, conspiring mouth-breather who couldn't tell the truth no matter what his socks/shills say. Melzzzzz was once again a liar by having the pretense to not debate Peter Köhlmann by means of veraciously broadcasting 'score: -999' and then ambushing him again via a 3rd party. Now that nobody is replying to Melzzzzz, he's making it sound like he's achieved some great victory -- when in fact, people are just sick of his shit.

Oh my! Right, Melzzzzz is pushing to retail a JavaScript reference, which anyone can get in seconds, that is grade school simple. If he wasn't so lost he would realize how dumb he sounds ;) I have known autobots who argue better than you do.

Just some names the stalker has used
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Steve Carroll

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May 20, 2018, 8:54:49 PM5/20/18
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This forum is a cesspool.

It's like a crank call. Desk Rabbit has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say just a reaction. What Steve Carroll says does not matter. I am working on code which will be more than anything Desk Rabbit can do! Desk Rabbit can not help but know Steve Carroll knows he is just lying! What do you get out of lying, Desk Rabbit?

It was Desk Rabbit who got caught using untold numbers of accounts time and time again, and these are 'people' who come basically out of the blue directly into threads where he was being proved wrong... over and over for years. This is what results when really bad self-respect takes over Desk Rabbit's every moment.



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Steve Carroll

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May 21, 2018, 4:39:08 AM5/21/18
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I do not know if there is a free open sores program to handle such tasks.

What is your evidence?

Just give it up already. You're again trying to bolster yourself beyond your grade. You're the dull knife in the drawer and your many incoherent scripts show this. Don't look now, but I think Melzzzzz has a serious mancrush on F. Russell. Things change. Could be the idea of a usenet group is getting ridiculous. His goal is to see me irritated by killing of any discussion. And hey, that could or could not... you know what I mean.

Perhaps you use it erroneously. Do you not realize the use of private networks?

Are you being stupid on purpose?

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Steve Carroll

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May 21, 2018, 9:36:41 AM5/21/18
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He claims that he uses Android, while actually he never recorded it on a real system and faithfully experienced it. Really, what lie? When I was being honest, I wanted to be equitable and impartial. I gave Melzzzz more than a credible person could be expected to.

Not only did benj's request not touch on the "DE", it has _nothing_ to do with KDE. Melzzzz should stop mixing red and blue pills ;) Someone's reverse compiled KDE with (I'd guess) value iteration to automate posts which are hard to distinguish from a previous post in the group.



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Steve Carroll

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May 21, 2018, 8:29:36 PM5/21/18
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Fool! Out-and-out baloney by an ignorant, fibbing, agenda driven, collaborating clown who would not tell the truth if his life depended on it. Lying sack of shit AKA Peter 'The Fool' Kohlmann does it every time. Then the torrent begins. Because the mama's boy just has to run to other groups in an effort to get attention from someone. Anyone.

Lines of text containing this and that, but not what is needed.

All that he cares about is that Peter 'The Fool' Kohlmann gets to dish out his prank call and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Snit is an unwitting victim on the other end of the phone is the game.

Dropping support for Mac Classic is what it comes down to. Learning Linux... even now an initiate...



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