Movie attachements on iPhone
Lynn W
opening them on the iPhone? I had an attachment sent the other day I think
it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it and I couldn't open
it.
Lynn
nospam
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
wmv is microsoft proprietary. you might be able to view a h.264 or mpeg
video in email but generally movies are too big to be sent anyway.
Larry
news:211120091240563047%nos...@nospam.invalid:
Nonsense. .wmv is Windows video but isn't proprietary at all. Anyone is
able, and does, include wmv, wma and other media codecs in any sane device
due to the wide use of the media across the net. VLC is freeware and it
plays all of Micro$oft's media files.
The snobbish bastards at Apple Computer just don't want you to have that
capability, probably at the prompting of ATTWS because it leads to iPhone
users having the ability to stream wmv/wma media from the thousands of
radio station play sites across the net like Shoutcast.
Windows Media, Real Media, AVI, Xvid, Flash are all widely used across the
internet. Crap iPhone won't play any of them. Ask yourselves why....
--
Larry
nospam
<no...@home.com> wrote:
> >> If someone sends an email with a 'movie' attachment, is there any way
> >> of opening them on the iPhone? I had an attachment sent the other
> >> day I think it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it
> >> and I couldn't open it.
> >
> > wmv is microsoft proprietary. you might be able to view a h.264 or
> > mpeg video in email but generally movies are too big to be sent
> > anyway.
>
> Nonsense. .wmv is Windows video but isn't proprietary at all.
it absolutely is proprietary. go try to get the spec and/or license it
to be included in a product.
> Anyone is
> able, and does, include wmv, wma and other media codecs in any sane device
> due to the wide use of the media across the net. VLC is freeware and it
> plays all of Micro$oft's media files.
vlc reverse engineered the format and it doesn't do a perfect job.
Jolly Roger
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:211120091240563047%nos...@nospam.invalid:
>
> > In article <C72D66B5.1EC4D%lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com>,
> > Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If someone sends an email with a 'movie' attachment, is there any way
> >> of opening them on the iPhone? I had an attachment sent the other
> >> day I think it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it
> >> and I couldn't open it.
> >
> > wmv is microsoft proprietary. you might be able to view a h.264 or
> > mpeg video in email but generally movies are too big to be sent
> > anyway.
> >
>
> Nonsense. .wmv is Windows video but isn't proprietary at all.
BZZZZZZZZZT! As usual, you are WRONG!
Windows Media Video is a compressed video file format for several
proprietary codecs developed by Microsoft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Video
> Anyone is
> able, and does, include wmv, wma and other media codecs in any sane device
> due to the wide use of the media across the net.
On Windows systems. After all, Microsoft doesn't care much about
anything but Windows.
> VLC is freeware and it plays all of Micro$oft's media files.
Nope. Wrong again. While it does play a lot of them, it won't play WMV
files using codecs that are not ported to the host OS.
> The snobbish bastards at Apple Computer just don't want you to have that
> capability, probably at the prompting of ATTWS because it leads to iPhone
> users having the ability to stream wmv/wma media from the thousands of
> radio station play sites across the net like Shoutcast.
Again, you have it wrong. The codecs used in MWV are created solely by
Microsoft. And it is *Microsoft* who does not want people who run
non-Windows operating systems) to have that capability. You need to get
your facts straight, Loser Larry.
> Windows Media, Real Media, AVI, Xvid, Flash are all widely used across the
> internet. Crap iPhone won't play any of them. Ask yourselves why....
It's not a coincidence that all of the formats you mention are all
bottom-feeding, suck-ass proprietary formats. In contrast, the iPhone
has full support for truly open better formats like MPEG. I don't expect
someone like you to be appreciate the difference, though.
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Developers cut back on unprofitable Android Development
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote innews:211120091240563047%nos...@nospam.invalid:
>
> > Lynn W <lynn.william...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >> If someone sends an email with a 'movie' attachment, is there any way
> >> of opening them on the iPhone? I had an attachment sent the other
> >> day I think it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it
> >> and I couldn't open it.
>
> > wmv is microsoft proprietary. you might be able to view a h.264 or
> > mpeg video in email but generally movies are too big to be sent
> > anyway.
>
> Nonsense. .wmv is Windows video but isn't proprietary at all. Anyone is
> able, and does, include wmv, wma and other media codecs in any sane device
> due to the wide use of the media across the net. VLC is freeware and it
> plays all of Micro$oft's media files.
>
> The snobbish bastards at Apple Computer just don't want you to have that
> capability, probably at the prompting of ATTWS because it leads to iPhone
> users having the ability to stream wmv/wma media from the thousands of
> radio station play sites across the net like Shoutcast.
>
> Windows Media, Real Media, AVI, Xvid, Flash are all widely used across the
> internet. Crap iPhone won't play any of them. Ask yourselves why....
>
> --
> Larry
Like everything else Larry, you are mis informed or if not misinformed
just lying when you now better.
iPhone plays all kinds of streaming media in spades and you know it.
We do not miss anything but the pain you little guys have in dinking
with Linux etc to make it work on whatever POS. We just choose the
right iPhone app and enjoy.
That is what makes the iPhone so great for real people.
Lynn W
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote:
Thank you for that, just for the record though I am quite happy with my
iPhone and if that is the case it more than makes up for it in other ways,
in essence I wouldn't swap it. As I said though thanks for your input even
if it was only to have a go at Apple really.
Lynn W
5dc3acf7-47f8-458e...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
"Developers cut back on unprofitable Android Development"
<vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
So can someone tell me what app I can use then to play attachments sent in
emails?
Lynn
nospam
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> On 22/11/09 03:42, in article Xns9CCAE6ECCA2...@74.209.131.13,
> "Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote:
> > Nonsense. .wmv is Windows video but isn't proprietary at all. Anyone is
> > able, and does, include wmv, wma and other media codecs in any sane device
> > due to the wide use of the media across the net. VLC is freeware and it
> > plays all of Micro$oft's media files.
> >
> > The snobbish bastards at Apple Computer just don't want you to have that
> > capability, probably at the prompting of ATTWS because it leads to iPhone
> > users having the ability to stream wmv/wma media from the thousands of
> > radio station play sites across the net like Shoutcast.
> >
> > Windows Media, Real Media, AVI, Xvid, Flash are all widely used across the
> > internet. Crap iPhone won't play any of them. Ask yourselves why....
> >
> Thank you for that,
don't thank him since it's completely wrong.
> just for the record though I am quite happy with my
> iPhone and if that is the case it more than makes up for it in other ways,
> in essence I wouldn't swap it. As I said though thanks for your input even
> if it was only to have a go at Apple really.
what larry can't understand is that there are actually a lot of people
who truly like the iphone.
nospam
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> So can someone tell me what app I can use then to play attachments sent in
> emails?
tap the attachment and if it can be played, it will play. a better
option is have whomever send you a link rather than send an attachment.
not only is it faster to send and receive, but the iphone will jump to
safari and likely play it.
Lynn W
"nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Thank you, I am usually just checking my mail while I'm out, I can access it
when I get home (they're usually jokes etc!) but just thought it would be
good if I could view while out and about. No problem really though.
Lynn
Developers cut back on unprofitable Android
wrote:
> On 22/11/09 20:15, in article 221120091515468461%nos...@nospam.invalid,
>
> "nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Lynn W <lynn.william...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >> So can someone tell me what app I can use then to play attachments sent in
> >> emails?
>
> > tap the attachment and if it can be played, it will play. a better
> > option is have whomever send you a link rather than send an attachment.
> > not only is it faster to send and receive, but the iphone will jump to
> > safari and likely play it.
>
> Thank you, I am usually just checking my mail while I'm out, I can access it
> when I get home (they're usually jokes etc!) but just thought it would be
> good if I could view while out and about. No problem really though.
> Lynn
Lynn
Grab GoodReader for $0.99
Learn how to use it to grab your particular email using its built in
web browser.
Download the attachment to the iPhone using GoodReader.
Open it. The attachment stays in iPhone memory until you delete it or
send it on to someone else as an attachment.
GoodReader also handles PPS and huge PDF files with ease. It also
does many, many other types to beating a whole bunch of different
special purpose apps for audio, video, or docs.
Larry
news:221120091515458378%nos...@nospam.invalid:
So, which of the codecs I quoted will play on iphone...WITHOUT
CONVERSION, please.
Can I download a new DivX movie off alt.binaries.movies.divx and play
them?
Can I stream Realvideo from a website in Europe?
Can I watch a new XviD movie off alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries?
Can I watch CNN news off http://www.cnn.com/video without a special
webapp that looks curiously like WAP?
Can I check my ATTWS speed on a test from http://www.speedtest.net Flash
website?
Can I play the AVI movie or the WMV movie my friend just emailed me of
his kids playing in their swimming pool?
(Just fill in the blanks with Y or N which is easier to type on the
capacitive screen)......N is on the bottom row, near the middle...(c;]
Why doesn't Iphone play what the net offers?
B-A-N-D-W-I-D-T-H......ATT's bandwidth.
Less use of bandwidth, less infrastructure necessary, higher profit
margins.
http://www.cnn.com/video/
Here's a simple webpage VERY popular with the customers.....
Can you play the CNN news videos on iPhone? Your new Nokia N900 plays
them RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX on Maemo Linux....The real webpage, not some
kluged-up, half-assed special Apple-branded iPhone converted crap...
Every iPhone owner I've ever encountered simply hates that his
overpriced toy cannot play 90% of the webpages that use the codecs I
quoted. CNN uses Flash and its own proprietary "Core Video Player
1.3.4a.16" and "CNN Prod Container v1.0.0.3" on Adobe Flash 10. Why
can't we sit and watch the news on CNN with iPhone? A-P-P-L-E and
A.T.T.W.S....arrogant assholes.
Of course, noone mentions it won't play common internet video or audio
or movies during the SALES process, do they?
Many times I've been sitting in a restaurant watching a movie or
streaming a TV station and am approached by an iPhone owner who
questions why he cannot play what I'm playing on my old, used, $75 Nokia
N800 on his iPhone. I simply tell him to call his Apple support team
and have them add it to his iPhone 3GS. "They should be able to add
simple codecs to play all this stuff the public uses on the internet.",
I tell him. I've opened his eyes and his mind to the screwing he's
gotten from these arrogant bastards. Every device should be USABLE,
right out of the box.
I didn't mention OGG or FLAC or some of the other public domain codecs
also used as I had to add them to my tablets, myself. But, I wasn't
told by my Nokia OS that I was not allowed to add them, either, of
course. Got OGG on your iPhone? OGG is a FREE codec! It works on your
MAC. Lots of Xiph and Shoutcast radio stations use OGG because they
come from young radio stations that operate on free Xiph streaming with
free OGG streamers. It's a pity you can't listen to them, either....for
FREE.
I'm sorry for those who make these purchasing decisions without knowing
the facts....or questioning the companies before handing over money and
contracts. It's really a shame what the closed environment of the
cellular phone companies has brought us, seemingly especially in the USA
where the media corporations and communications companies have way too
much control over government decisions that are supposed to benefit the
PUBLIC whos pockets they steal from.
But, I think it's important to make some contrarian noises to the
company fanbois who are dishonestly telling the uninformed lurker how
wonderful this device is, which is simply NOT TRUE! This device
CONTINUES after all these changes to be so limited in what it really is
able to provide its owners. Lack of multitasking, lack of a changeable
battery, lack of external UNENCUMBERED simple memory cards, forced use
of proprietary iTunes with Nanny telling you what you can and cannot
have....what it will and won't do, merely because some company
bureaucrat doesn't want you to have it, not because it is incapable of
it. That's just crazy! Your iPhone is the same technology as my Linux
tablets. It CAN multitask, maybe not as well or as fast as Nokia's new
N900 at 600 Mhz, but as fast as my 400 Mhz Linux tablets can.
....and there IS, like it or not, the fact that its days grow older.
Owners need to keep up pressure on the company and the carriers to make
the next generation do what they really want, without the nanny crap of
the beancounters. Apple's milking this old girl pretty hard. Can you
imagine Dell coming out with a $400 netbook that only runs one program
at a time? They'd be laughed right off the stock exchange! It's really
impressive to see how Apple talks them into accepting it.....like
monkeys in a zoo.
--
Larry
nospam
<no...@home.com> wrote:
> So, which of the codecs I quoted will play on iphone...WITHOUT
> CONVERSION, please.
>
> Can I download a new DivX movie off alt.binaries.movies.divx and play
> them?
>
> Can I stream Realvideo from a website in Europe?
>
> Can I watch a new XviD movie off alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries?
imagine that, apple doesn't make it easy to pirate movies. you can
still watch that stuff, but it will take a little more effort.
> Can I watch CNN news off http://www.cnn.com/video without a special
> webapp that looks curiously like WAP?
cnn's app is not a web app, and it is much, much more than a wap
application. it can play all of their video clips and even pushes
breaking news stories.
> Can I check my ATTWS speed on a test from http://www.speedtest.net Flash
> website?
there are bandwidth testing websites that don't use flash, as well as
dozens of apps that can do it, but why does it matter, you hate
cellphones anyway.
> Can I play the AVI movie or the WMV movie my friend just emailed me of
> his kids playing in their swimming pool?
how often does that actually happen? and a bigger question is why are
you watching videos of little kids in bathing suits?
> http://www.cnn.com/video/
> Here's a simple webpage VERY popular with the customers.....
> Can you play the CNN news videos on iPhone?
sure can. cnn makes a very nice app exactly for that purpose, or if you
insist on using a browser, watch them in safari.
> But, I think it's important to make some contrarian noises to the
> company fanbois who are dishonestly telling the uninformed lurker how
> wonderful this device is, which is simply NOT TRUE! This device
> CONTINUES after all these changes to be so limited in what it really is
> able to provide its owners.
despite all these things supposedly wrong with it, the iphone has one
of the highest customer satisfaction rates in the industry.
in changewave's survey from last august, the iphone had a staggering
99% of users satisfied or very satisfied. what's the rate on your
nokia?
the biggest complaint was at&t's network, not that it won't play some
obscure or proprietary video format.
> Lack of multitasking, lack of a changeable
> battery, lack of external UNENCUMBERED simple memory cards,
based on actual user surveys, few people care about that.
> forced use
> of proprietary iTunes with Nanny telling you what you can and cannot
> have...
absolute nonsense. itunes does no such thing no matter how many times
you say it.
> Can you
> imagine Dell coming out with a $400 netbook that only runs one program
> at a time?
you mean like microsoft windows starter edition that limited you to 3
running apps instead of no limits as with normal windows?
Jolly Roger
> Lack of multitasking,
Only to a dimwit like you. Anyone who has actually used an iPhone knows
you can run any application you want while on the phone or listening to
music.
> lack of a changeable battery
Ho hum! Apple will replace the battery in 5 minutes while you wait.
Hardly a huge inconvenience.
> lack of external UNENCUMBERED simple memory cards
Memory cards are for chumps who think "I need a memory card!" despite
there being minimal actual uses for one. iPhone users don't have a need
for them! Nobody cares about this but you, I'm afraid.
> forced use of proprietary iTunes with Nanny telling you what you can and cannot
> have
Wrong again, Loser Larry. The iPhone can play any number of truly open
music file formats. And iTunes has the largest music library of them all.
> ....what it will and won't do, merely because some company
> bureaucrat doesn't want you to have it, not because it is incapable of
> it.
My iPhone does everything I want, and then some. As usual, you're
talking out of your ass.
Larry
nos...@nospam.invalid:
> based on actual user surveys, few people care about that.
>
>
I've seen 'em sidestep questions, before, but never just run sideways.
"You don't need to do that.", isn't much of an answer.
It's a piece of shit!
--
Larry
Jolly Roger
Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
Yes, and memory cards are a must, too, because you say so. Pffft...
nospam
> > based on actual user surveys, few people care about that.
>
> I've seen 'em sidestep questions, before, but never just run sideways.
>
> "You don't need to do that.", isn't much of an answer.
i didn't say they didn't need to do that.
users aren't asking to play real video files, so why bother adding it?
nothing is stopping real networks from writing a player, why haven't
they done it if it's such an important feature? users are not whining
about downloading movies with a usenet client either.
they also prefer having as much as 32-64 gigs of storage built in
rather than a pocket full of easily lost memory cards, which are second
rate citizens in many cases. you can't install apps on a removable
memory card on android, for instance.
what users are bitching about is at&t and not being able to use the
iphone on the network of their choice.
> It's a piece of shit!
so buy something else and stfu.
Andrew
> In article <jollyroger-C37EA...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > lack of external UNENCUMBERED simple memory cards
> >
> > Memory cards are for chumps who think "I need a memory card!"
> > despite
> > there being minimal actual uses for one. iPhone users don't have a
> > need
> > for them! Nobody cares about this but you, I'm afraid.
>
> less
> onboard memory than the iPhone does.
>
> > > forced use of proprietary iTunes with Nanny telling you what you
> > > can
> > > and cannot have
> >
> > Wrong again, Loser Larry. The iPhone can play any number of truly
> > open
> > music file formats. And iTunes has the largest music library of them
> >
> > all.
>
> course, as you said, you don't have to use the iTunes store for the
> music.
> I'm surprised that Larry isn't complaining that you have to use a USB
> cable, and can't use a serial or parallel cable.
Heck my Zune synchs wirelessly. I wish my iPhone did that. The Zune
Software is finally good, better than iTunes. Too bad for the Zune -- as
I always use my iPhone.
--
sent from my iPhone
Larry
959008.114...@nothing.attdns.com:
> I'm surprised that Larry isn't complaining that you have to use a USB
> cable, and can't use a serial or parallel cable.
>
>
...or popping the microSD card out of his MotoROKR into his iPhone?
--
Larry
Marc Stibane
And of course VLC was ported to the iPhone, too. Jailbreak required,
though.
--
In a world without walls and fences,
who needs windows and gates?
Marc Stibane
> Can I stream Realvideo from a website in Europe?
There are a lot of companies with proprietary stuff which should have
vanished long ago... Real is one of them. I don't have their SW
installed on my Mac, and I don't use any web pages which don't offer an
alternative to Real.
On the iPhone, where all offical AppStore apps are are running in a
sandbox and cannot harm the system, I probably would even install
"an app for that", if there really were some content I couldn't access
otherwise.
> Can I watch CNN news ... without a special webapp...?
What's wrong with CNN's app?
> Can I ... Flash website?
I hope never! Flash is also a proprietary POS, often used by content
providers to lock their content and prevent users from downloading.
The only time I ever hear the fans of my MacBookPro is when I open a
crappy Flash page.
> Every iPhone owner I've ever encountered simply hates that his
> overpriced toy cannot play 90% of the webpages that use the codecs I
> quoted.
99% of all users telling you they want Flash on the iPhone don't really
want Flash, but just want to play movies.
Of course, this is a fight between Apple and Adobe, but I'm all on
Apple's side. Hopefully Flash dies soon...
Don't tell Apple - tell the content providers to deliver MP4 also, like
YouTube did. The more people complain about not being able to watch
their content, the sooner crappy Flash vanishes.
Larry
news:1j9o8hl.50p...@marc.my-fqdn.de:
> There are a lot of companies with proprietary stuff which should have
> vanished long ago... Real is one of them. I don't have their SW
> installed on my Mac, and I don't use any web pages which don't offer an
> alternative to Real.
>
>
Why not, the players are free for a reason? Flash player is free,
available to anyone.
What's your objection? You drive a proprietary car, right? You certainly
use a proprietary phone and computer or it would run Linux! That doesn't
seem to bother you a bit!
How can anyone using, of all things, heavily controlled, proprietary APPLE
devices, object to a free proprietary player anyone is free to use without
restriction? It just doesn't make sense!
--
Larry
Your Name
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCD23DB290...@74.209.131.13...
> spamf...@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) wrote in
> news:1j9o8hl.50p...@marc.my-fqdn.de:
>
> > There are a lot of companies with proprietary stuff which should have
> > vanished long ago... Real is one of them. I don't have their SW
> > installed on my Mac, and I don't use any web pages which don't offer an
> > alternative to Real.
>
> Why not, the players are free for a reason? Flash player is free,
> available to anyone.
Because REAL video is garbage quality, as is Flash video and Windoze Muddier
Video.
Larry
news:hehedt$hmu$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz:
> Because REAL video is garbage quality, as is Flash video and Windoze
> Muddier Video.
>
>
>
You're preaching about quality on a device with only 480 x 320 pixels at
163 pixels per inch rendering the whole picture of a video?
Isn't that a little over-the-top ABSURD?
My old N800 Linux tablet eats its shorts at (800 x 480 pixels) with up to
65,536 colors on the same size screen. The difference rendering any movie
at any resolution is startling!
It really doesn't matter about Realvideo on such a very low resolution
screen as iPhone. Hell, to save space on the twin 16 GB SDHC cards in the
N800, I usually convert the 730MB to 1.4GB DivX movies to a much lower
resolution format with files around 300MB because even on that screen you
can't see the difference and you get 3 to 5 times more full-length movies
on a card. Expand the compressed movie off the card and play it on my 32"
LCD monitor and it looks horrible! But, on the little screen, remnants are
so small the pixels can't render them, anyway.
Be reasonable. No codec looks good on a 480 x 320, 163 pixel per inch
screen no matter what! It's not the codec's fault it only has 1.536
megapixels to work with. That's another hilarious FACT. Looking at a 5
megapixel picture on a 1.536 megapixel screen is also absurd. There's no
point looking at a huge file picture with more pixels than the display is
capable of rendering! 1.5 megapixels is the iPhone's best picture. The
N800 Linux tablet renders 3.84 megapixels. You CAN see the difference
looking at a whole photo or video....over twice the resolution.
--
Larry
Ace_racer
> GUEST wrote:
> If someone sends an email with a 'movie' attachment, is there any
way of
> opening them on the iPhone? I had an attachment sent the other day
I think
> it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it and I
couldn't open
> it.
Apple does not believe in such formats and hence does
not support them
nospam
<no...@home.com> wrote:
> You're preaching about quality on a device with only 480 x 320 pixels at
> 163 pixels per inch rendering the whole picture of a video?
it can output larger sizes to external devices
> Isn't that a little over-the-top ABSURD?
no.
> My old N800 Linux tablet eats its shorts at (800 x 480 pixels) with up to
> 65,536 colors on the same size screen. The difference rendering any movie
> at any resolution is startling!
>
> It really doesn't matter about Realvideo on such a very low resolution
> screen as iPhone. Hell, to save space on the twin 16 GB SDHC cards in the
> N800, I usually convert the 730MB to 1.4GB DivX movies to a much lower
> resolution format with files around 300MB because even on that screen you
> can't see the difference and you get 3 to 5 times more full-length movies
> on a card. Expand the compressed movie off the card and play it on my 32"
> LCD monitor and it looks horrible! But, on the little screen, remnants are
> so small the pixels can't render them, anyway.
since you are converting the video, you could convert it using a
standard codec such as h.264 or mpeg and it will play just fine on the
iphone and will probably look good on a large screen tv too (depending
on conversion options).
Your Name
"Ace_racer" <gets...@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:k7KdnRQg-PsGy5HW...@giganews.com...
Here we go. The anti-Apple morons post complete nonsense again. :-\
Almost no company "supports" the competing companies' products, Beta VCRs
didn't "support" VHS tapes, PlayStations don't play XBox games, etc., etc.,
etc.. If you really want to play garbage formats like Real video, then you
have to download their proprietary player. If you want to play Windoze
Muddier format on a Mac you have to download Windoze Muddier Player (or one
of the QuickTime plug-ins / other third party player applications). If you
want to play Quicktime on a Windows PC, you have to download Quicktime.
Jolly Roger
gets...@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Ace_racer) wrote:
Idiot. The truth is that Microsoft doesn't support Microsoft's closed
proprietary formats on non-Windows machines and devices.
Verizon we have a fee for that - $3 extra for Visual Voice Mail
> > > it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it and I
> > couldn't open
> > > it.
> > > Lynn
>
> > Apple does not believe in such formats and hence does
> > not support them
>
> Idiot. The truth is that Microsoft doesn't support Microsoft's closed
> proprietary formats on non-Windows machines and devices.
>
> --
WMV plays perfectly for the end user on Apple products with the right
files installed. No Microsoft software needed.
Lynn W
1d0c2bc4-5a22-4ffc...@x31g2000yqx.googlegroups.com, "Verizon
we have a fee for that - $3 extra for Visual Voice Mail"
<vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes I can play them on my macBook just can't open them on my iPhone, I just
wondered if I was missing an App as there are so many to look through,
didn't mean to spark such 'debate'!!
Lynn
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Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> Yes I can play them on my macBook just can't open them on my iPhone, I just
> wondered if I was missing an App as there are so many to look through,
> didn't mean to spark such 'debate'!!
convert them to a standard format and sync with itunes.
Jolly Roger
<1d0c2bc4-5a22-4ffc...@x31g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>,
> On Nov 25, 9:08�am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > �> it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it and I
> > > couldn't open
> > > �> it.
> > > �> Lynn
> >
> > > Apple does not believe in such formats and hence does
> > > not support them
> >
> > Idiot. The truth is that Microsoft doesn't support Microsoft's closed
> > proprietary formats on non-Windows machines and devices.
>
> WMV plays perfectly for the end user on Apple products with the right
> files installed. No Microsoft software needed.
Only because others have gone through the trouble of reverse engineering
the formats and creating / porting Microsoft equivalent codecs to Mac OS.
And we're talking about iPhones here, not Macs.
Your Name
"Jolly Roger" <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:jollyroger-5B96D...@news.individual.net...
> In article
> <1d0c2bc4-5a22-4ffc...@x31g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>,
> "Verizon we have a fee for that - $3 extra for Visual Voice Mail"
> <vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 9:08 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > it may have had a .wmv (but not sure) attachment with it and I
> > > > couldn't open
> > > > > it.
> > > > > Lynn
> > >
> > > > Apple does not believe in such formats and hence does
> > > > not support them
> > >
> > > Idiot. The truth is that Microsoft doesn't support Microsoft's closed
> > > proprietary formats on non-Windows machines and devices.
> >
> > WMV plays perfectly for the end user on Apple products with the right
> > files installed. No Microsoft software needed.
>
> Only because others have gone through the trouble of reverse engineering
> the formats and creating / porting Microsoft equivalent codecs to Mac OS.
>
> And we're talking about iPhones here, not Macs.
In terms of Macs, Microsoft did make (not sure if they still do) a Mac
version of Windows Muddier Player ... it was complete garbage, but they did
make one.
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<your...@isp.com> wrote:
> In terms of Macs, Microsoft did make (not sure if they still do) a Mac
> version of Windows Muddier Player ... it was complete garbage, but they did
> make one.
and a third party company did a much better job of supporting wmv by
writing a codec for quicktime, so microsoft ditched the mac player
entirely and financed the other company's development, enabling them to
distribute their codec for free (prior to that it was $10 or something
like that).
Todd Allcock
All true, but that just underscores the importance of not having the
device manufacturer be the "gatekeeper" for third-party apps. Microsoft
sure as heck didn't build AAC or .m4v support into my Windows Mobile phone,
but someone else made "An App For That." Real built a RealPlayer for it,
secure in the knowledge that Microsoft couldn't "veto" its very
existence.
What do you think the chances are that Apple would approve a Windows
Media playback app for the iPhone?
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<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> What do you think the chances are that Apple would approve a Windows
> Media playback app for the iPhone?
there's a few streaming apps that support wma and/or real audio streams.