ABC NEWS:Google Nexus Offers Little Competition to Apple iPhone
Google Stunned with Apple's Android Killer!
Why Google's New Smartphone Won't Knock Apple Off Its iPhone Throne
COLUMN By MICHAEL S. MALONE
Click on link for whole article at ABC NEWS
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/GadgetGuide/google-nexus-beat-apple-iphone/story?id=9458204&page=1
Jan. 1, 2010
<SNIP>
Next Tuesday, Google is expected to announce its long-rumored Nexus
One smartphone.
<SNIP>
This time around, the new Android phones were supposed to break the
hegemony of the Apple iPhone.
So far, it hasn't quite worked out that way with Android. A number of
cell phone companies notably Motorola, HTC, and Samsung have adopted
Android and seen impressive sales.
<SNIP>
For one thing, Apple understands, better perhaps than any company on
the planet, the importance of being not only perpetually innovative
but with a vast and loyal army of Apple fanatics behind it to
regularly take category-busting risks. Thus, the amazing run,
beginning a decade ago, of the iMac, MacBook, iPod and iPhone. These
landmark (and in the case of the iPod, historic) products not only
were ambitious in their goals and beautifully designed, but they also
exhibited multiple features that were so innovative that they forced
the competition to spend years catching up and by then, Apple had
already moved on to the next breakthrough.
Military theorists like to say that the goal of combat is to get
inside your opponent's "decision horizon" that is, to move so quickly
that the enemy can't respond in time before you have moved on to the
next victory. That's exactly what Apple, at its best, has done to the
consumer electronics world & and in the process has left competitors
reeling, loyal customers thrilled, and not least, Apple regaining its
lost market share and making its shareholders wealthy.
The Apple iPhone is a classic example of that. It has taken nearly two
years for Apple's competitors to field products that are even close to
the iPhone; to identify weaknesses in the device (such as the lack of
a real keyboard for texters, its commitment to AT&T as service
provider) and respond. Apple, meanwhile, has used that time to
continuously improve the iPhone the result being that the company now
dominates the smartphone world to a degree Apple hasn't enjoyed since
the early years of the Macintosh.
<SNIP>
But, as I said, even if Apple hasn't reformed its bad old ways, it has
grown a whole lot wiser. And, in one of the most brilliant strategic
moves in its history, the company opened the door more than a year ago
to outside developers to create their own proprietary application
programs for the iPhone (and iPod Touch) to be sold through the Apple
Store. Here, too, serendipity has been Apple's friend: economic
downturns are always times for a burst of entrepreneurial energy as
the unemployed and underemployed use the downtime to start new
enterprises and then give them a running start. But this crash has
been unique in high tech history not only for its depth and duration,
but also because, for the first, time, the venture capital industry
(largely because of government regulation) is paralyzed and little
investment money is available.
This entrepreneurial energy needs to go somewhere & and where much of
it has headed is toward the design of iPhone apps. The sheer number of
these apps that have been created in just 18 months is absolutely mind-
boggling: more than 100,000 different programs, from guitar tuners to
restaurant ratings to burp generators, and everything else you can
imagine. It is one of the greatest outpourings of small, independent
entrepreneurship in American business history, and all supported by
the Apple Store. There have been more than 1 billion iPhone app
downloads.
Some of these apps are superb, most are crap. But that doesn't matter.
What does matter is that the sheer mass of all of these creations
creates a gargantuan barrier to any competing smartphone initiative
that wants to take it on. Apple, without surrendering much control,
has nevertheless found an alternative way to harness the intellectual
capital of thousands of its smartest and most ambitious supporters. So
now, to compete with the iPhone you pretty much have to match the best
of the iPhone App catalog and even with a well-developed user
community, that won't be easy to do. Android might be able to catch
up and I emphasize "might" by building its own developer community.
But it hasn't happened yet.
The only other ways to catch Apple right now is to either price bomb
the iPhone with a super cheap, super powerful smart phone easier
said than done, especially since you're giving away all of your
profits or come out with your own, revolutionary, new design. But
nobody's been able to end run Apple yet; revolutionary new design
being what that company does better than anybody.
<SNIP>
Unfortunately, the early reports suggest that what Google will
introduce next week, the Nexus One, will be a largely conventional
smartphone. That's a pity because I suspect Google will never get this
chance again. Meanwhile, strong on momentum and flush with cash, Apple
isn't waiting around for the world to catch up with it. Two weeks from
now, the company is expected to introduce yet another category-buster:
this time it's rumored to be a tablet device think of an oversized
iPod Touch, but no doubt with much of the functionality of a personal
computer (not to mention all of those iPhone apps). It will also no
doubt, have one or two very cool and unexpected new features that will
make it a gotta-have for Apple fanatics everywhere. Once again, Apple
will have a new product that challenges convention, seemingly
obsoletes an entire multibillion-dollar industry (in this case,
handheld computers) while overwhelming a second, newer industry
(netbooks, such as the Kindle) and yet is still stunning to look at.
In other words, the Google phone will be a loser, even if it is a
winner, because it will probably diminish Google's reputation as a
tech juggernaut. Meanwhile, the Apple Tablet will be a winner, even if
it is a loser, because (like those wacky iMac cubes and other designs
of the last decade) it will continue to advance the company's
reputation for risk-taking and cool.
Meanwhile, <SNIP>
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/GadgetGuide/google-nexus-beat-apple-iphone/story?id=9458204&page=1
To read the whole ABC News article you must go to ABC News at the
above link.
Well there you have it. It doesn't look good for Google or Big Red in
2010.
No Apple iPhone for you...
Wes Groleau
> The only other ways to catch Apple right now is to either price bomb
> the iPhone with a super cheap, super powerful smart phone easier
> said than done, especially since you're giving away all of your
> profits or come out with your own, revolutionary, new design. But
Maybe the open source fanatics (who _hate_ Apple and
Microsoft equally) might go for a "non-closed" alternative.
Oh, wait, that was tried with OpenMoku ....
--
Wes Groleau
Rant on using folk wisdom in the classroom
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1015
Ness-Net
<vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b822557e-5f87-47fc...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
<snip>
Not much of substance there to quote.... (never really is)
Here's the real deal.
By itself the Google phone won't 'kill' the iPhone. Google's new phone is just one of many
Android devices. And there is more to come. Multiple recent wireless industry articles state
that as a whole Android is rapidly gaining, iPhone demand actually decreased slightly.
Sorry Vic, you can post this tiring drivel and keep deluding yourself, however it doesn't change anything.
Android is growing rapidly.
The jebus phone just isn't anymore.
Cameo
news:b822557e-5f87-47fc...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> Why Google's New Smartphone Won't Knock Apple Off Its iPhone Throne
> COLUMN By MICHAEL S. MALONE
>
> Click on link for whole article at ABC NEWS
> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/GadgetGuide/google-nexus-beat-apple-iphone/story?id=9458204&page=1
After reading that article, don't forget to also read comments by
readers, such as:
"Apple == Steve Jobs == majority stakeholder of Disney == which owns ABC
== pays this guy's salary who is a columnist (not a journalist).You draw
the dots and follow the money... "
Todd Allcock
"Wes Groleau" <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote in message
news:hhnr9u$2iv$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Google Stunned with Apple's Android Killer! wrote:
>> The only other ways to catch Apple right now is to either price bomb
>> the iPhone with a super cheap, super powerful smart phone easier
>> said than done, especially since you're giving away all of your
>> profits or come out with your own, revolutionary, new design. But
>
> Maybe the open source fanatics (who _hate_ Apple and
> Microsoft equally) might go for a "non-closed" alternative.
> Oh, wait, that was tried with OpenMoku ....
>
OpenMoko never had a mainstream device behind it. Just "experimental"
devices for devs to play with. Google is a "name brand" available form
actual manufacturers and wireless operators. Google is a big enough name
that it won't only appeal to open source fans- it'll appeal to anyone who
uses Google services. Everyone who keeps a Google Calendar or uses GMail,
Google Docs, etc. is a potential Android customer (despite thae fact you can
use those services just fine on other platforms.)
Keep in mind Google's strategy in phones is much like Microsoft's- get their
software on as many devices as possible. Is any one "Google phone" going to
dethrone the iPhone as Queen of the Smartphones? No, but in aggregate it
eventually will. Android will be on many different devices from many
different manufacturers, just as Windows PCs outsell Macs in aggreagate,
even though Apple is one of the largest-selling hardware manufacturers of
computers.
Even the tech press-derided Windows Mobile which "nobody" seems to care
about, was on 20 million devices sold last year. Not bad numbers for a
platform who's entire press coverage last year contained headlines like
"dead," "disappointing," etc.! Of course, those sales were the aggregate of
50 (or more) different models of phone, so no one seemed to noticed those
numbers since only one or two models sold anything near a million pieces.
Microsoft noticed, of course, and collected their $10-12 per device.
Between the Droids, Nexuses, MyTouches, etc. Android could easily be on 10
million devices or more this coming year, which leads to circular growth:
more devices sold means more developers means more apps means more devices
sold, etc., etc., etc.
Jolly Roger
"Ness-Net" <richard...@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
> Android is growing rapidly.
> The jebus phone just isn't anymore.
Yes, and I'll be sure to quote you in a few years to let you eat crow.
: )
--
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
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JR
Larry
in news:b822557e-5f87-47fc...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
> Well there you have it. It doesn't look good for Google or Big Red in
> 2010.
> No Apple iPhone for you...
>
>
http://geekpete.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/iphone_comparison.jpg
Larry
news:c7g0k551b4lnh8peh...@4ax.com:
> Dumbass.
>
>
>
>
>
Ha! Made ya look.....(d^:)
Dumbass....
WindsorFox<[SS]>
> Google Nexus Offers Little Competition to Apple iPhone
> Why Google's New Smartphone Won't Knock Apple Off Its iPhone Throne
> COLUMN By MICHAEL S. MALONE
>
Because there's only one iPhone, there are a dozen different things
to chose from for a non-apple phone.
--
.
"A smorgasbord of tomfoolery" - L0afy
WindsorFox<[SS]>
>
>
>
>
Can you refute it? LOL
Google's Epic Fail: It is just another Droid!
wrote:
> Google Stunned with Apple's Android Killer! wrote:
>
> > Google Nexus Offers Little Competition to Apple iPhone
> > Why Google's New Smartphone Won't Knock Apple Off Its iPhone Throne
>
> Because there's only one iPhone, there are a dozen different things
> to chose from for a non-apple phone.
>
> --
Google and all the rest get it wrong. It is the total Apple package
that is so compelling once you have it.
Even those die hard anti Apple fanbois who finally switch to the
iPhone come out an admit they didn't really realize what they were
missing.
No one who tries any variant of the Android says that after using a
Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
And you're making this crap up as you go. What "full package?" GMAFB
I had that package and IMO you're FoS.
Cameo
wrote in message
news:a6c2d070-c82d-4822...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> No one who tries any variant of the Android says that after using a
> Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
> Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
So why are you so worried about it? Me think the gentleman doth protest
too much. Sounds like cognitive dissonance at work there.
Your Name
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hht795$ded$3...@posting2.glorb.com...
> Google's Epic Fail: It is just another Droid! wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 10:33 am, "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.use...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Google Stunned with Apple's Android Killer! wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Google Nexus Offers Little Competition to Apple iPhone
> >>> Why Google's New Smartphone Won't Knock Apple Off Its iPhone Throne
> >>
> >> Because there's only one iPhone, there are a dozen different
things
> >> to chose from for a non-apple phone.
> >
> > that is so compelling once you have it.
> > Even those die hard anti Apple fanbois who finally switch to the
> > iPhone come out an admit they didn't really realize what they were
> > missing.
> >
> > No one who tries any variant of the Android says that after using a
> > Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
> > Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
>
> And you're making this crap up as you go. What "full package?" GMAFB
> I had that package and IMO you're FoS.
Oh dear, yet another "anti-Apple" idiot to ignore.
Can people please stop cross-posting to where these idiots live! It's bad
enough to morons like Loser Larry and his pal, without importing more of
them. :-(
Todd Allcock
"Google's Epic Fail: It is just another Droid!" <vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote
in message
news:a6c2d070-c82d-4822...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> Google and all the rest get it wrong. It is the total Apple package
> that is so compelling once you have it.
> Even those die hard anti Apple fanbois who finally switch to the
> iPhone come out an admit they didn't really realize what they were
> missing.
Who would those be? I spent an hour last night reloading the music and
video on my wife's iPhone because I ticked a checkbox the wrong way when
syncing the custom ringtones that were removed by the last firmware upgrade.
I HATE iTunes- the "Apple package," IMO, is a large part of what's wrong
with the iPhone.
> No one who tries any variant of the Android says that after using a
> Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
> Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
I haven't tried an Android phone for any significant length of time, so I
can't tell you exactly what's wrong with it! ;)
The people I know with one and who like it, like it for the "Google
package"- they were all big GooCal and GMail users prior to using Androids.
George Kerby
On 1/4/10 2:01 PM, in article hhthfv$1a7$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz, "Your Name"
<your...@isp.com> wrote:
Today's g-mail'ers are like aol'ers of the past.
One that goes by a handle like that could not be much over seventeen, or so,
and his parents can't/won't get him an iPhone, thus the response.
Ness-Net
"Google's Epic Fail: It is just another Droid!" <vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a6c2d070-c82d-4822...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
> Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
>
Complete bullshit!
I have a whole office of VERY knowledgeable wireless engineers that begs to differ.
They can have any phone they want.
The majority now have Android - by choice.
And a few ditched jebus phones to go Android.
Richard B. Gilbert
> In article <C9v0n.14199$DY5....@newsfe08.iad>,
> "Todd Allcock" <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> Who would those be? I spent an hour last night reloading the music and
>> video on my wife's iPhone because I ticked a checkbox the wrong way when
>> syncing the custom ringtones that were removed by the last firmware
>> upgrade. I HATE iTunes- the "Apple package," IMO, is a large part of
>> what's wrong with the iPhone.
>
>
It should not be easy to do something like that. At the very least the
software should ask "Do you really mean that?"
Todd Allcock
> In article <C9v0n.14199$DY5....@newsfe08.iad>,
> "Todd Allcock" <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
and
> > video on my wife's iPhone because I ticked a checkbox the wrong way
when
> > syncing the custom ringtones that were removed by the last firmware
> > upgrade. I HATE iTunes- the "Apple package," IMO, is a large part of
> > what's wrong with the iPhone.
>
The complete non-intuitiveness is- ticking and unticking "manage music
and videos manually" wipes all media from the device, despite the "sync
checked music and videos" box staying ticked in both instances. Last
night, unticking the "manage manually" box deleted everything then put it
all back on because the "sync checked" box was still ticked!
If these options are mutually exclusive (sync checked and manage manually)
why separate boxes? If they aren't, why does ticking/unticking the
latter wipe the media from the device (just to immediately put it all back,
apparently in obeyance of the former box)?
What's missing from iTunes is a check box for "leave the media on my
device the f--k alone when changing options!"
Todd Allcock
> >> Who would those be? I spent an hour last night reloading the music
> >> and video on my wife's iPhone because I ticked a checkbox the wrong
> >> way when syncing the custom ringtones that were removed by the last
> >> firmware upgrade. I HATE iTunes- the "Apple package," IMO, is a
> >> large part of what's wrong with the iPhone.
> >
> > You ticked the checkbox the wrong way, so it's Apple's fault?
> >
>
> It should not be easy to do something like that. At the very least the
> software should ask "Do you really mean that?"
It did, but unfortunately I had little choice-I wanted the box unchecked
(I think), I just didn't expect iTunes to be so brain-damaged that it'd
have to erase all 6GB of media from the phone just to put the exact same
6GB right back on moments later.
Todd Allcock
> In article <YM6dnTnXI7REA9_W...@giganews.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > You ticked the checkbox the wrong way, so it's Apple's fault?
> > >
> >
> > It should not be easy to do something like that. At the very least
the
> > software should ask "Do you really mean that?"
>
check
> or uncheck a check box, everyone would rightfully scream about the
nanny
> OS. Windows Vista proved that.
When the result of clicking the checkbox is erasing 6GB of data, no one
would complain. ;)
In any case, as I said in my reply to Richard, it did warn me.
Unfortunately it was package deal- to get the option set where I wanted
it apparently required wiping the phone.
> Now if something would destroy data and is not undoable, then there
should
> be that alert, but that wasn't the situation in this case.
It was and it did. It just shouldn't have had to. I previously had
manually dragged those 6GB of media to the phone, then switched to
automatically syncing the exact same six gigs of media. The only thing I
lost was the 15 or 20 minutes it took to recopy the same data.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
>
> Some people apparently LIKE that.
>
Lots of people don't notice it or see a problem.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Please do bury your head, by all means because you are completely
clueless abut me. Although it's not surprising because the most timid of
the Apple sheep always do consider anyone not 100% sympathetic to Apple
as an anti. *I* replied to the post as it was posted, *I* did not cross
the post.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Gmailers? Again I see you making yet another 98% pointless post. As
has been with every post I've yet to see you make to the particular
group that I am reading you seem to be really confused here. Gmail has
little in common with the AOL you make mention of and since I've see no
one here posting from Google Groups your already feeble point is totally
moot.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
> In article <C9v0n.14199$DY5....@newsfe08.iad>,
> "Todd Allcock" <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> video on my wife's iPhone because I ticked a checkbox the wrong way when
>> syncing the custom ringtones that were removed by the last firmware
>> upgrade. I HATE iTunes- the "Apple package," IMO, is a large part of
>> what's wrong with the iPhone.
>
>
I agree, the actual problem is haveing to rely on iTunes at all. If
you like iTunes, great use it. I however do not. And my biggest dislike
of the iPhone is it's dependency on iTunes. Something shared to an
extent by the Blackberry, it's semi-dependence on the Blackberry software.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Sorry, but that's something I really, really hate about Windows.
Richard B. Gilbert
How about something user configurable? The absent minded could opt for
"Do you really mean that?" and those of us who are perfect can press the
wrong key and wipe out everything!
WindsorFox<[SS]>
That's why I said he's just making shit up....
WindsorFox<[SS]>
>>>> No one who tries any variant of the Android says that after using a
>>>> Droid for awhile! That is why there is so much disappointment with the
>>>> Nexus, it is just another Droid - nothing close to the iPhone.
>>> And you're making this crap up as you go. What "full package?" GMAFB
>>> I had that package and IMO you're FoS.
>> Oh dear, yet another "anti-Apple" idiot to ignore.
>>
>> Can people please stop cross-posting to where these idiots live! It's bad
>> enough to morons like Loser Larry and his pal, without importing more of
>> them. :-(
>
> Today's g-mail'ers are like aol'ers of the past.
>
> One that goes by a handle like that could not be much over seventeen, or so,
> and his parents can't/won't get him an iPhone, thus the response.
>
Oh, I sit corrected, your buddy who started this thread is posting
from Google Groups. I can't decide if that give more or less accuracy to
your drivel. I think I'll stick with less since your posts here are
exclusively for no purpose other than to berate one or another person.
George Kerby
On 1/4/10 8:07 PM, in article YM6dnTnXI7REA9_W...@giganews.com,
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilb...@comcast.net> wrote:
That sounds just like the Windoze mentality. Thanks for the proof.
George Kerby
On 1/5/10 2:22 AM, in article l9D0n.606$Ef7...@newsfe07.iad, "Todd Allcock"
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
"brain-damaged": Pot-Kettle
George Kerby
On 1/5/10 8:16 AM, in article hhvhj5$kq8$1...@posting2.glorb.com,
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
That is because you are too brain-damaged (as Todd put it) to understand
that g-mail is no longer "cool", ya moroon!
Now back to your parent's cellar...
Richard B. Gilbert
Unix has "rm -i", VMS has "DELETE /CONFIRM" so it's fairly common and
definitely not limited to Windows! It has been many years since I used
IBM's TSS but I believe that, too, had some sort of option to confirm
deletion of a file. ISTR that most of these systems had a way to turn
it off if you really didn't want it.
George Kerby
On 1/5/10 8:31 AM, in article hhviff$kul$1...@posting2.glorb.com,
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
You sit on your brain, as expected. I am talking to YOU, bitch!
REPEAT: G-mail is not cool anymore. OVER & OUT!
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Typical moronic troll reply of even less meaningless drivel. The
only person I see in this group that would qualify for the term brain
dead would be you as your replies have no intelligence, little point and
many times make no sense at all. Even your Gmail using troll buddy
manages to scrape together far better posts than you do.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
IDGAF what you think is or is not cool, gmail has little to do with
the point at hand and less to do with a persons posts. I believe the
point now is that the pseudo-intellectual psychobabble spewing hot-shot
want to be is the one who can not stay on topic nor put forth a post
with any meaningful or logical content. Your feeble attempt a trying to
berate people who use Google to post to Usenet and of my posting nym
show little touch with reality. Your trolling buddy and best friend is
the only one I've seen using google to post, and your limited
imagination and experience seems to keep you clueless as to what my nym
could possibly mean.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Someone I worked with always said that Windows needed a slide
indicator for user proficiency. All the way to the left for someone like
George Kerby and all the way to the right for him....
George Kerby
On 1/5/10 1:04 PM, in article hi02g6$mqt$1...@posting2.glorb.com,
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Clueless"?!? You want "clueless"? I would suggest you use the nearest
mirror, still pond (be careful), or that shiny new Droid to see the
definition of clueless, imbecile. God created houseflies, cockroaches,
maggots, mosquitoes, fleas, ticks, slugs, leeches, and intestinal parasites,
then he lowered his standards and made you. I take it back; God didn't make
you. You are Satan's spawn. You are Evil beyond comprehension, half-living
in the slough of despair. You are the entropy which will claim us all. You
are a yellow-nostriled, crossed eyed, hairy-livered inbred trout-defiler.
You make Ebola look good. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You
are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a
fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with
you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a
land that reality forgot. You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You
are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You
are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are
a loathsome disease, a drooling inbred cross-eyed toe sucker. You make
Quakers shout and strike Pentecostals silent. You have a version 1.0 mind in
a version 10.6.2 world. Your mother had to tie a pork chop around your neck
just to get your dog to play with you. Who gives a flying fuck about your
your handle? You just think it's 'cool', doncha, boi?!?
Ness-Net
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hhvi6m$kro$3...@posting2.glorb.com...
And a bit more.....
Android vs. iPhone: Let's Get Ready to Rumble
JR Raphael, PC World
Jan 4, 2010 2:57 pm
... a study by independent analysis firm ChangeWave Research finds the number of people planning to buy an Android phone
is skyrocketing -- while the crowd eyeing the iPhone is slowly starting to slip.
.... The rate of change, however, may be where the numbers speak the loudest. In the same time period that Android saw a
250 percent growth in buyer interest, the iPhone experienced a 12.5 percent drop
ChangeWave's research isn't alone; other recent analyses have shown similar shifts in the smartphone market. In December,
ComScore found consumer interest in the Android platform had more than doubled since the summer. ComScore's numbers
placed Android and iPhone nearly neck-and-neck: Seventeen percent of people surveyed by the company said they were headed
to Android, while 20 percent were planning to make new iPhone purchases.
George Kerby
On 1/5/10 6:15 PM, in article
michelle-5298DA...@nothing.attdns.com, "Michelle Steiner"
<mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <C7692C65.3B831%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I take it back; God didn't make you. You are Satan's spawn.
>
> But God made Satan. So does that make him a second-hand creation?
A resale shop special, perhaps.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
>
>> IDGAF what you think is or is not cool, gmail has little to do with
>> the point at hand and less to do with a persons posts. I believe the
>> point now is that the pseudo-intellectual psychobabble spewing hot-shot
>> want to be is the one who can not stay on topic nor put forth a post
>> with any meaningful or logical content. Your feeble attempt a trying to
>> berate people who use Google to post to Usenet and of my posting nym
>> show little touch with reality. Your trolling buddy and best friend is
>> the only one I've seen using google to post, and your limited
>> imagination and experience seems to keep you clueless as to what my nym
>> could possibly mean.
>
> "Clueless"?!? You want "clueless"? I would suggest
I'm not even going to bother reading all that meaningless drivel.
Even you don't know what you're yapping about and you can not back up a
word you say with even the feeblest fact. I'm sure you'll keep trying
though, blind tenacity is a basic virtue of the majority of morons....
WindsorFox<[SS]>
> In article <X4WdnckjBIPift7W...@giganews.com>,
> "Ness-Net" <richard...@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/185830/android_vs_iphone_lets_get_ready_to
>> _rumb le.html?tk=nl_dnx_h_crawl
>>
>> Android vs. iPhone: Let's Get Ready to Rumble JR Raphael, PC World
>>
>> Jan 4, 2010 2:57 pm
>>
>> ... a study by independent analysis firm ChangeWave Research finds the
>> number of people planning to buy an Android phone is skyrocketing --
>> while the crowd eyeing the iPhone is slowly starting to slip.
>>
>> .... The rate of change, however, may be where the numbers speak the
>> loudest. In the same time period that Android saw a 250 percent growth
>> in buyer interest, the iPhone experienced a 12.5 percent drop
>>
>> ChangeWave's research isn't alone; other recent analyses have shown
>> similar shifts in the smartphone market. In December, ComScore found
>> consumer interest in the Android platform had more than doubled since
>> the summer. ComScore's numbers placed Android and iPhone nearly
>> neck-and-neck: Seventeen percent of people surveyed by the company said
>> they were headed to Android, while 20 percent were planning to make new
>> iPhone purchases.
>
> generation of iPhone. With the expectation of a new iPhone in the next
> five or six months, interest in buying a new iPhone now is bound to drop.
>
But it will still be an iPhone. I suspect there are more people who
would rather not deal with iT and Apple than you may think.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
> In article <hi2a2g$ui8$2...@posting2.glorb.com>,
> "WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Let's see what those figures become after Apple introduces the next
>>> generation of iPhone. With the expectation of a new iPhone in the next
>>> five or six months, interest in buying a new iPhone now is bound to drop.
>>>
>>
>> But it will still be an iPhone.
>
>
>> I suspect there are more people who
>> would rather not deal with iT and Apple than you may think.
>
> can imagine.
>
I say that as if it is neither good nor bad, it is what it is, and
for what it is, there are people who do not like it and those who really
hate it, for whatever reason. I really don't care if the Android and/or
Linux phone pass or even catch up to the iPhone in popularity, just that
they are there and *I* have the choice for something other than the
iPhone that has the same quality, technology and functionality.
George Kerby
On 1/6/10 9:20 AM, in article hi29oi$ui8$1...@posting2.glorb.com,
"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
You are a simple-minded tub of dog doo-doo.
(I had to get to your level of expression/coherence, btw)
You may have the last word here with my explicit permission.
Begin, NOW!
Your Name
...
Google struggling to support angry Nexus One buyers
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New owners of the Nexus One are complaining that they can't
find answers to support issues from Google, and that they're
being passed back and forth between it, HTC, and T-Mobile.
A report by PC World detailed several of the hundreds of
complaints users have posed to Google's support forums.
Prior to the phone's launch, many pundits predicted that
Google's positive brand familiarity with consumers would give
it a strong position to market a smartphone. However, the
new smartphone (or "superphone" as Google executives like
to call it) is the company's first attempt at selling hardware
to consumers.
Like Microsoft, Google is discovering that selling software
(or in Google's case, giving away free software supported by
ads) is a very different business than selling and supporting
hardware.
Despite its global domination of the PC operating system
and productivity suite markets, Microsoft has struggled to
even break even with its Xbox franchise as support issues
ballooned into a $1.4 billion write-off. The company's effort
to push the Zune against the iPod fell completely flat, even
with major retail partners lined up to promote it.
Google avoided the difficult business of retail in the launch
of the Nexus One. The phone was designed and built by
HTC but is marketed and sold by Google directly from its
website.
However, customers buying the device are finding that
Google's level of customer support is limited to email,
which is only answered in a day or two. There's no direct
phone support available at all.
That might be sufficient for users of free software, but it
isn't being received well by customers who spent $540 on
the new unlocked device. Users who went to T-Mobile or
HTC reported getting a general runaround and bad support
there as well, with some users complaining that they were
told the phone doesn't support 3G at all.
One user in the report said he'd spent an hour and a half
being transferred between HTC and T-Mobile after Google
failed to help. "T-Mobile also said Google hasn't provided
them with any support documents for the phone. Welcome
to direct sales Google!" the user complained.
Another user facing similar issued wrote, "I guess I was
under the wrong impression but I thought Google would
handle the service on the phone."
Apple has faced some issues at each launch of new
iPhone models, but had resources in place to handle
those issues based on its decades-long experience in
selling and supporting consumer electronics.
When launching the iPhone, Apple staunchly insisted
that AT&T and other carrier partners allow it to handle
much of the customer support itself, which helped to
head off the problem of users being passed back and
forth between the hardware vendor, the carrier, and the
software developer.
Larry
> Apple has faced some issues at each launch of new
> iPhone models, but had resources in place to handle
> those issues based on its decades-long experience in
> selling and supporting consumer electronics.
>
Maybe what Nexus needs is a bunch of jailbreakers who solved Iphone's
problems....
salgud
(snip)
> I say that as if it is neither good nor bad, it >is what it is,
> and
> for what it is, there are people who do not like >it and those who
> really
> hate it, for whatever reason. I really don't care >if the Android
> and/or
> Linux phone pass or even catch up to the >iPhone in popularity, just
> that
> they are there and *I* have the choice for >something other than the
> iPhone that has the same quality, technology >and functionality.
There's the rub! Do the others have the same quality, technology and
functionality? Quality, we could argue about all day, only time will
really tell. Technology, same. But functionality?
Functionality is where the iPhone exels. We can argue the relative
functionality of each device, but the real difference is in the apps.
iPhone has a big head start here, both in quantity (who cares?) and
quality. And as long as the potential profits for developers remain
orders of magnitude greater for the iPhone, the quality of their apps
will remain significantly higher. I could be wrong, but I don't see the
others even getting close for a while.
WindsorFox<[SS]>
> More bad news for Google's Nexus, and no real surprise. From AppleInsider
> ...
Exactly what I thought, "from AppleInsider" no real surprise.
They're scared chitless just like Apple is, especially now that Lenovo
is bringing sexy back....
WindsorFox<[SS]>
Nah, if you're using a Google phone, you should know how to use Google.
Your Name
> Your Name wrote:
> > More bad news for Google's Nexus, and no real surprise. From
AppleInsider
> > ...
>
> Exactly what I thought, "from AppleInsider" no real surprise.
> They're scared chitless just like Apple is, especially now that Lenovo
> is bringing sexy back....
Yet another anti-Apple moron to ignore. :-\
WindsorFox<[SS]>
That's your third time at least to say that, either ignore me or
STFU. Better yet, ignore me AND STFU because it's obvious you don't
have any retention on what you read.