Google wants "access to my photos"

tn...@mucks.net

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Oct 9, 2012, 6:29:12 PM10/9/12

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Can anyone define what "Google wants access to my photos" actually
means?

In order to save a web image with "Google Search", you must first turn
ON Googles access to your photos under the privacy section of the
iphone.

What does privacy have to do with saving a web image?

Isn't this just a form of blackmail that requires you to give Google
access to your photos so you can gain access to theirs?

Wes Groleau

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Oct 9, 2012, 7:21:23 PM10/9/12

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Not that I am a Google fan, but no. If you want IOS to allow Google to
put an image into your photos, you must tell IOS that it's OK for Google
to put an image into your photos.

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The man who says, “Impossible!" will never succeed.

tn...@mucks.net

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Oct 9, 2012, 7:26:08 PM10/9/12

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>Not that I am a Google fan, but no. If you want IOS to allow Google to
>put an image into your photos, you must tell IOS that it's OK for Google
>to put an image into your photos.

I understand that, but does it not also allow Google to access to MY
photos?

Davoud

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Oct 9, 2012, 7:27:51 PM10/9/12

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tn...@mucks.net:

Google exists to extract as much information about you as it can,
however private or intimate, and to sell that information to *anyone*
who will buy it. You can fill in the rest. Google was, for a time,
complicit in the Chinese government's oppression of dissidents. Bad
publicity caused Google to have a change of heart (read: this
particular bit of immoral behavior was going to negatively impact
profits).

Google CEO Eric Schmidt said �If you have something that you don�t want
anyone to know, maybe you shouldn�t be doing it in the first place�
i.e., if you've got something you want to keep secret from Google,
you're a bad person.

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Bert

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Oct 9, 2012, 7:33:29 PM10/9/12

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Unless Apple implements separate read and write access to your photos,
yes.

Whether Google actually reads your photos is another question.

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be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Todd Allcock

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Oct 10, 2012, 12:05:26 AM10/10/12

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At 09 Oct 2012 18:29:12 -0400 tn...@mucks.net wrote:
> Can anyone define what "Google wants access to my photos" actually
> means?

Like Wes said, it gives the app permission to access the photo roll.

> In order to save a web image with "Google Search", you must first turn
> ON Googles access to your photos under the privacy section of the
> iphone.
>
> What does privacy have to do with saving a web image?

It's an extra layer of security. In the past, apps didn't have to ask to
access the camera roll, any and all apps were allowed to. If Google
wanted to siphon your photos, they could've already done it in past OS
revisions.

> Isn't this just a form of blackmail that requires you to give Google
> access to your photos so you can gain access to theirs?

Maybe they already were! ;) It's a new iOS feature, AFAIK, not a message
generated by this app specifically. You're being creeped out because the
name of the app is called "Google" and it sounds like you're giving Google,

the corporation bent on world domination, permission to access your photos,

instead of Google, the mostly redundant search application you installed
on your phone. . If the app was called Happy Kittens Search, the message
would say "Happy Kittens wants access to your photos..." That sounds far
less threatening.

If you're nervous about this, can't you just use www.google.com in Safari
and access the same photos? iOS won't need your permission for Safari to
access your photos.

(Never understood the point of a Google Search app vs. just bookmarking
their page in your browser, but I feel that way about most apps.)

A1...@gmail.com

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Oct 10, 2012, 2:18:49 PM10/10/12

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Google wants access to your photos so it will upload those photos
automatically to your google + account. From there you can choose
to share photos with those in your cirlces. .

Google + is googles answer to facebook.
i hate it even more than facebook.

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Steve O

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:17:06 PM10/10/12

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On 10/10/2012 00:27, Davoud wrote:
> tn...@mucks.net:
>
>> Can anyone define what "Google wants access to my photos" actually
>> means?
>>
>> In order to save a web image with "Google Search", you must first turn
>> ON Googles access to your photos under the privacy section of the
>> iphone.
>>
>> What does privacy have to do with saving a web image?
>>
>> Isn't this just a form of blackmail that requires you to give Google
>> access to your photos so you can gain access to theirs?
>
> Google exists to extract as much information about you as it can,
> however private or intimate, and to sell that information to *anyone*
> who will buy it. You can fill in the rest. Google was, for a time,
> complicit in the Chinese government's oppression of dissidents. Bad
> publicity caused Google to have a change of heart (read: this
> particular bit of immoral behavior was going to negatively impact
> profits).
>
> Google CEO Eric Schmidt said ³If you have something that you don¹t want
> anyone to know, maybe you shouldn¹t be doing it in the first place²
> i.e., if you've got something you want to keep secret from Google,
> you're a bad person.
>

Jesus, what an arrogant statement.

Steve O

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:25:17 PM10/10/12

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On 10/10/2012 19:36, Lewis wrote:
> In message <hj8978h4epjkjpujl...@4ax.com>

> tn...@mucks.net <tn...@mucks.net> wrote:
>> Can anyone define what "Google wants access to my photos" actually
>> means?
>
>> In order to save a web image with "Google Search", you must first turn
>> ON Googles access to your photos under the privacy section of the
>> iphone.
>

> Yes, because otherwise it can't access the photos to save the picture
> you want to save.

>
>> Isn't this just a form of blackmail that requires you to give Google
>> access to your photos so you can gain access to theirs?
>

> Take. Off. The. Tinfoil.
>
Hmm, maybe, but as someone else points out, Google exists simply to get
as much information about you as possible...it makes its' profit from
customer information... and wouldn't it be nice for them to be able to
put a face to the name??
Is this customer fat?
Does he need a facelift,or is he bald?
...Bingo- instant directed ads for a cosmetic surgeon and a wig maker...
I think it was recently raised that Google had an uncanny knack of
directing advertising content which creepily refers to the content
detailed in individual email correspondence.

Steve O

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:26:42 PM10/10/12

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Latest update....

I just got a Google ad for a wig maker.
;-)

Bert

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Oct 10, 2012, 4:59:35 PM10/10/12

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In news:adm0cu...@mid.individual.net Steve O <nos...@here.thanks>
wrote:

> Hmm, maybe, but as someone else points out, Google exists simply to
> get as much information about you as possible...

If you think you get no value from any transaction with them, maybe you
should avoid using any Google product.

Salgud

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Oct 10, 2012, 8:10:26 PM10/10/12

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

> In message <hj8978h4epjkjpujl...@4ax.com>
> tn...@mucks.net <tn...@mucks.net> wrote:

>> Can anyone define what "Google wants access to my photos" actually
>> means?
>
>> In order to save a web image with "Google Search", you must first turn
>> ON Googles access to your photos under the privacy section of the
>> iphone.
>

> Yes, because otherwise it can't access the photos to save the picture
> you want to save.
>

>> Isn't this just a form of blackmail that requires you to give Google
>> access to your photos so you can gain access to theirs?
>

> Take. Off. The. Tinfoil.

I agree, no company, particularly Google, would try to gather personal
information on their users to sell to whomever is the highest bidder. That
simply could never happen!

Davoud

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Oct 10, 2012, 8:15:32 PM10/10/12

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Todd Allcock:

> >Maybe they already were! ;) It's a new iOS feature, AFAIK, not a message
> >generated by this app specifically. You're being creeped out because the
> >name of the app is called "Google" and it sounds like you're giving Google,
> >the corporation bent on world domination, permission to access your photos,
> >
> >instead of Google, the mostly redundant search application you installed
> >on your phone. . If the app was called Happy Kittens Search, the message
> >would say "Happy Kittens wants access to your photos..." That sounds far
> >less threatening.

No way am I giving access to my photos to felines.

> >If you're nervous about this, can't you just use www.google.com in Safari
> >and access the same photos? iOS won't need your permission for Safari to
> >access your photos.

> >(Never understood the point of a Google Search app vs. just bookmarking
> >their page in your browser, but I feel that way about most apps.)

Ditto. I don't get the point of a Google app or a Facebook app or any
other app that replicates what I can do in Safari. I followed the
leader and downloaded these apps because tech writers told me they were
killer apps that I had to have. Tried 'em and deleted 'em.

Wes Groleau

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Oct 10, 2012, 10:24:03 PM10/10/12

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IOS is Unix underneath. Everything has separate read and write access.
So the question really is whether Apple is deliberately
doing both in the associated code.

--
Wes Groleau

You always have time for what you do first.

Steve O

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Oct 11, 2012, 12:47:47 AM10/11/12

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On 10/10/2012 21:59, Bert wrote:
> In news:adm0cu...@mid.individual.net Steve O <nos...@here.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, maybe, but as someone else points out, Google exists simply to
>> get as much information about you as possible...
>
> If you think you get no value from any transaction with them, maybe you
> should avoid using any Google product.
>

I use Google products all of the time, and will probably continue to do
so, but the fact remains that they simply exist as stated.

Bert

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Oct 11, 2012, 7:44:24 PM10/11/12

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In news:k55ak3$shv$1...@dont-email.me Wes Groleau

<Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 10-09-2012 19:33, Bert wrote:
>> In news:ghc978lp41ht2sg8b...@4ax.com tn...@mucks.net
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Not that I am a Google fan, but no. If you want IOS to allow
>>>> Google to put an image into your photos, you must tell IOS that
>>>> it's OK for Google to put an image into your photos.
>>>
>>> I understand that, but does it not also allow Google to access to MY
>>> photos?
>>
>> Unless Apple implements separate read and write access to your
>> photos, yes.
>>
>> Whether Google actually reads your photos is another question.
>
> IOS is Unix underneath. Everything has separate read and write
> access.

But is there a config parameter to allow the owner to decide which apps
get to do which?

Wes Groleau

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Oct 11, 2012, 10:08:53 PM10/11/12

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On 10-11-2012 19:44, Bert wrote:
> <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10-09-2012 19:33, Bert wrote:
>>> In news:ghc978lp41ht2sg8b...@4ax.com tn...@mucks.net

>>>>> Not that I am a Google fan, but no. If you want IOS to allow
>>>>> Google to put an image into your photos, you must tell IOS that
>>>>> it's OK for Google to put an image into your photos.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that, but does it not also allow Google to access to MY
>>>> photos?
>>>
>>> Unless Apple implements separate read and write access to your
>>> photos, yes.
>>>
>>> Whether Google actually reads your photos is another question.
>>
>> IOS is Unix underneath. Everything has separate read and write
>> access.
>
> But is there a config parameter to allow the owner to decide which apps
> get to do which?

No, but there are config popups and config screens.

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Wes Groleau

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if every member of Congress will do the same.”
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