I stupidly upgraded..
/dev/null
and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
Am looking to downgrade it, but there are too many options and I don't
have the time to figure this out. Is there a single webpage
that tells me how to downgrade? Apparently I need to jailbreak first
which is fine..
Please, any info would be greatly appreciated.
Monique
JK Coney
salgud
Have you checked the fixes for speeding up your 3GS? Might be better than
downgrading, which you can always do if the fixes don't fixit.
Borg
>
> Have you checked the fixes for speeding up your 3GS? Might be better than
> downgrading, which you can always do if the fixes don't fixit.
He might have read ALL of them, but he doesn't have a 3GS
Jolly Roger
/dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote:
That's a known issue. It's been discussed here recently, and several
here have reported speed is returned to normal.
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Juan I. Cahis
Monique, do an upgrade to 4.01, and then a *hard reset* twice in
sequence. It improves the speed a lot.
--
Enviado desde mi iPad, Juan I. Cahis
Steen
> Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
Same here. I actually hate my iPhone at the moment.
I wish Apple would realize that iOS4 made older iPhones useless, and
would put out an official way of rolling back from iOS4 to iOS3
--
Steen
Jolly Roger
ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
Lots of people report once thy apply the suggested fix, everything is
better. Have you tried the suggested fix for this problem?
Lynn W
754772808301967906.123879ji...@news-central.giganew
Unfortunately not always it didn't improve mine
Lynn
--
Live for today, as tomorrow is not promised
Lynn W
"Steen" <ist...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with that!
Steen
> In article <1jmc3ta.1knpr4l1mpeo1xN%ist...@gmail.com>,
> ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
>
> > /dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> > > and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
> >
> > Same here. I actually hate my iPhone at the moment.
> > I wish Apple would realize that iOS4 made older iPhones useless, and
> > would put out an official way of rolling back from iOS4 to iOS3
>
> Lots of people report once thy apply the suggested fix, everything is
> better. Have you tried the suggested fix for this problem?
You mean the iOS 4.1 Beta 2?
--
Steen
Jolly Roger
ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
Nope. That's not what I mean. Try this:
<http://www.cultofmac.com/speed-up-iphone-3g-ios4-with-a-hard-reset>
Jolly Roger
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
How sure are you that you actually performed the hard reset correctly
both times?
Steen
> In article <1jmcjrl.1kyq67h1npfvsnN%ist...@gmail.com>,
> ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
>
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1jmc3ta.1knpr4l1mpeo1xN%ist...@gmail.com>,
> > > ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
> > >
> > > > /dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> > > > > and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
> > > >
> > > > Same here. I actually hate my iPhone at the moment.
> > > > I wish Apple would realize that iOS4 made older iPhones useless, and
> > > > would put out an official way of rolling back from iOS4 to iOS3
> > >
> > > Lots of people report once thy apply the suggested fix, everything is
> > > better. Have you tried the suggested fix for this problem?
> >
> > You mean the iOS 4.1 Beta 2?
>
> Nope. That's not what I mean. Try this:
>
> <http://www.cultofmac.com/speed-up-iphone-3g-ios4-with-a-hard-reset>
I did the "Restore factory settings and do not restore from backup"
option. That actually helped a good deal - 3G-owners should try that:
http://osxdaily.com/2010/07/28/iphone-3g-slow-ios4/?utm_source=feedburne
r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+osxdaily+%28OS+X+Daily%29
--
Steen
Jolly Roger
ist...@gmail.com (Steen) wrote:
Yes, I've read that works as well.
Mike
After doing a forced reboot as suggested in other threads I found my 3G
speeded up and is now not much slower than under OS3.
Pretty soon apple will have to run two or more OS on the iphone
otherwise the 3G will hold back the 4 or the 3G will becoe completely
unusable.
Mike
/dev/null
Didn't work for myself either.
However, I was able to downgrade and jailbreak using
the 3.1.2_7D11 ipsw and redsn0w 0.9.4.
Playing with Cydia now, neat stuff!
Now I need to tether it to laptop and I'll be pleased.
Thanks to everyone for all your help and pointers!
Monique
Lynn W
jollyroger-D51B3...@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <C875F075.2F36B%lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com>,
> Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 28/07/2010 01:02, in article
>> 754772808301967906.123879ji...@news-central.giganew
>> s.com, "Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchS...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> /dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote:
>>>> Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
>>>> and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
>>>> Am looking to downgrade it, but there are too many options and I don't
>>>> have the time to figure this out. Is there a single webpage
>>>> that tells me how to downgrade? Apparently I need to jailbreak first
>>>> which is fine..
>>>> Please, any info would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Monique
>>>
>>> Monique, do an upgrade to 4.01, and then a *hard reset* twice in
>>> sequence. It improves the speed a lot.
>>>
>> Unfortunately not always it didn't improve mine
>
> How sure are you that you actually performed the hard reset correctly
> both times?
As sure as I can be. I followed the instructions and I have actually done
it quite a few times with no effect.
Lynn W
jollyroger-FE80A...@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
I just don't think anything going to work with my phone as I'd tried that as
well.
Larry
news:omvt46t3i2ak0ij5r...@4ax.com:
I think Apple's making them slow on purpose so Jobs can sell them a new
IP4....
No other computer device goes into crawl mode just because you update the
OS that I know of.....
Updating usually makes them even more slick than they were!
--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.
Larry
/dev/null
Unless is an MS based system. lol Even my BlackJack II slowed down
when updated, though that was a BREEZE to downgrade compared to this
frigging iPhone.
Monique
Jolly Roger
Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> /dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote in
> news:omvt46t3i2ak0ij5r...@4ax.com:
>
> > Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> > and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
> > Am looking to downgrade it, but there are too many options and I don't
> > have the time to figure this out. Is there a single webpage
> > that tells me how to downgrade? Apparently I need to jailbreak first
> > which is fine..
> > Please, any info would be greatly appreciated.
> > Monique
>
> I think Apple's making them slow on purpose
Well you're a complete idiot; so that's no surprise.
Jolly Roger
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
There may be other things to try, or better ways to fix it.
Have you contacted an Apple expert about it yet?:
<http://www.apple.com/support/expert>
Your Name
"Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9DC39397E1...@74.209.131.13...
>
> I think Apple's making them
Moron!
nospam
> No other computer device goes into crawl mode just because you update the
> OS that I know of.....
then you need to get out more. microsoft vista.
nospam
<michelle-AF81EF.10183528072010@reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.e
> > Pretty soon apple will have to run two or more OS on the iphone
> > otherwise the 3G will hold back the 4 or the 3G will becoe completely
> > unusable.
>
> The original iPhone is using OS 1, 2, or 3. The iPhone 3G is using OS 2,
> 3, or 4. The iPhone 3GS is using OS 3 or 4, and the Iphone 4 is using OS 4.
>
> (I'm not sure that the original can use OS 3, but I think it can. I think
> that the 3G can't use OS 1.)
you got it right. the original iphone can use 3.1.3 and the 3g shipped
with 2.0 and there's no going backwards.
nospam
Lynn W <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
> I just don't think anything going to work with my phone as I'd tried that as
> well.
<http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/28/apple-investigates-reports-of-pr
oblems-with-ios4-on-iphone-3g/>
Apple is investigating reports that the latest iPhone operating
system causes problems for users of the iPhone 3G, after a series of
complaints on Apple support forums and technology blogs. Apple is
aware of the reports and is looking into the matter, a spokeswoman
told Digits.
News
No doubt will make it worse next time to drive further handset upgrades.
Gary
update mode, launch iTunes, then hold SHIFT while clicking on the
restore button to choose your 3.1.3_7E18_Restore.ipsw. Before you go
through the hassle of another backup and restore, however, have you
tried hard resetting twice? See these posts for more info:
http://www.cultofmac.com/speed-up-iphone-3g-ios4-with-a-hard-reset
http://www.cultofmac.com/iphone-3g-performance-suffering-with-ios4
http://preview.tinyurl.com/downgradetoios3
-Gary
Jolly Roger
News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
You're yet another complete idiot.
Gary
> No other computer device goes into crawl mode just because you update
> the OS that I know of.....
Have you heard of Microsoft Windows?
-Gary
Sythos
/dev/null <bear...@ptd.net> wrote:
> Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
> Am looking to downgrade it, but there are too many options and I don't
> have the time to figure this out. Is there a single webpage
> that tells me how to downgrade? Apparently I need to jailbreak first
> which is fine..
> Please, any info would be greatly appreciated.
> Monique
cache issue
backup iphone settings (via itunes
power down (hold power button + slide red arrow)
wait a mins
power on
connect to itunes and restore settings
power down (hold power button + slide red arrow)
wait a mins
power on
first time you run an app may appear slower, since 2nd time faster
Your Name
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
The only reason people don't see more "crawl mode" is thanks to the
companies enforcing a minimum spec for newer versions of their software.
If you work around that you will see "crawl mode", for example installing
Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 on a G3 Mac.
There's an item on MacRumors.com today saying that Apple is investigating
the slow down on older iPhone after being updated to iOS 4.
Your Name
Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <V4Cdnd0o76xlOc3R...@speakeasy.net>,
> News <Ne...@Group.Name> wrote:
> >
> > No doubt will make it worse next time to drive further handset upgrades.
>
> You're yet another complete idiot.
Just, it's just another of the local Village Idiots spouting nonsense
because they have nothing better to do. :-(
Larry
B6AF30.140...@news.individual.net:
>> I think Apple's making them slow on purpose
>
> Well you're a complete idiot; so that's no surprise.
>
>
Apologist number 8 speaks!
Larry
> Have you contacted an Apple expert about it yet?:
>
Do you mean one of the Apple apologists at the Apple Store?
Your Name
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger-
> B6AF30.140...@news.individual.net:
>
> >> I think Apple's making them slow on purpose
> >
> > Well you're a complete idiot; so that's no surprise.
>
> Apologist number 8 speaks!
And you're the local looney posting his usual ignorant drivel. :-(
Your Name
"Michelle Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:michelle-310CD3.20570728072010@reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.e
xample.com...
> In article <Xns9DC3F24609A...@74.209.131.13>,> Larry, contrary to your mixed up lexicon, "knows what he is talking about"
> does not equate to "apologist".
That simply yet another example of something Loser Larry doesn't know nor
understand. :-\
Of course, it would be far quicker to list what he does know and understand:
- drivel
- nonsense
- garbage
- rubbish
- lies
- made-up stupidity
David Empson
> In article <280720101556590364%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <Xns9DC39397E1...@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> > <no...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No other computer device goes into crawl mode just because you update the
> > > OS that I know of.....
> >
> > then you need to get out more. microsoft vista.
>
> The only reason people don't see more "crawl mode" is thanks to the
> companies enforcing a minimum spec for newer versions of their software.
> If you work around that you will see "crawl mode", for example installing
> Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 on a G3 Mac.
10.5 doesn't even boot on a G3, so that is more like iOS 4 with an
original iPhone.
A fairer comparison would be 10.5 with early PowerMac G4 models: it
officially requires 867 MHz or faster, but actually works right back to
a 350 MHz PowerMac G4 with AGP Graphics. Slowly.
It appears Apple didn't do a very good job of measuring real world
performance of iOS 4 on an iPhone 3G. More optimization is needed.
Hopefully iOS 4.1 will improve the situation.
> There's an item on MacRumors.com today saying that Apple is investigating
> the slow down on older iPhone after being updated to iOS 4.
Good. (Not that I have one, but for everyone else's sake.)
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
Lynn
I'm in the UK, when I asked in the Apple store they were aware it slowed
down the 3G and didn't offer any advice on downgrading the software.
Your Name
"David Empson" <dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote in message
news:1jmeiu8.md2xoz1ouee58N%dem...@actrix.gen.nz...
> Your Name <your...@isp.com> wrote:
> > In article <280720101556590364%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> > <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > In article <Xns9DC39397E1...@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> > > <no...@home.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No other computer device goes into crawl mode just because you
update the
> > > > OS that I know of.....
> > >
> > > then you need to get out more. microsoft vista.
> >
> > The only reason people don't see more "crawl mode" is thanks to the
> > companies enforcing a minimum spec for newer versions of their software.
> > If you work around that you will see "crawl mode", for example
installing
> > Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 on a G3 Mac.
>
> 10.5 doesn't even boot on a G3, so that is more like iOS 4 with an
> original iPhone.
I couldn't rmember what the official cut-off OS version was and which one
could be forced to install by hacking.
> A fairer comparison would be 10.5 with early PowerMac G4 models: it
> officially requires 867 MHz or faster, but actually works right back to
> a 350 MHz PowerMac G4 with AGP Graphics. Slowly.
>
> It appears Apple didn't do a very good job of measuring real world
> performance of iOS 4 on an iPhone 3G. More optimization is needed.
> Hopefully iOS 4.1 will improve the situation.
>
> > There's an item on MacRumors.com today saying that Apple is
investigating
> > the slow down on older iPhone after being updated to iOS 4.
>
> Good. (Not that I have one, but for everyone else's sake.)
iPhone 4 is released here in New Zealand today, probably at the same prices
as the previous model and still stuck (officially) with useless Vodafone ...
not that Telescum NZ is much better. Hopefully 2Degrees' 3G data prices will
be sensible.
nospam
<your...@isp.com> wrote:
> iPhone 4 is released here in New Zealand today,
<http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=1
0662184>
Tech fans excited about the launch of the iPhone 4 have been left
confused and angry as it appears the device won't be available in New
Zealand today.
All references to the new gadget were removed from official iPhone
telco Vodafone New Zealand's website yesterday.
David Empson
And came back again later. You can now order an iPhone 4 on contract
from the Vodafone NZ site, just not buy a phone by itself.
The disappearance from the web site was probably scheduled downtime due
to it being reconstructed to show the ordering page, possibly delayed
while they waited for final information. Yesterday their iPhone page had
a "coming soon" filler with a form for registering to get information.
Evidence so far suggests there was a shipping error, and there isn't
enough stock in NZ for normal sales.
About 11:40, Vodafone sent out a text message alerting those who
registered for information that the iPhone 4 would be on sale from noon
today in selected stores, but only for people getting one on a two year
contract.
Once they have enough stock, I expect normal sales will resume. Apple
should also be selling direct from the online store soon.
Vodafone are the iPhone distributors in New Zealand, while the Apple
online store is run from Australia.
Don't know yet whether the "shipping error" was Apple or Vodafone's
fault, but both are culpable for the communication problem: it was
Vodafone's responsibility, but Apple probably has to take some of the
blame for requiring secrecy prior to launch day.
There are a lot of angry potential iPhone 4 buyers out there who queued
up from the wee small hours only to find that they couldn't get an
iPhone 4, compounded by being told later that they would have to come
back again later in the day (if they are lucky).
Not good.
--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
Tim Okergit
>> How sure are you that you actually performed the hard reset correctly
>> both times?
>
> As sure as I can be. I followed the instructions and I have actually done
> it quite a few times with no effect.
I'm afraid the instructions weren't complete: you have pray too!
Non-beleivers get no free upgrades, you see...
Ooops, I almost forgot: forget about God, it's Jobs you must pray!
Your Name
<t...@notme.com> wrote:
>
> I'm afraid the instructions weren't complete: you have pray too!
> Non-beleivers get no free upgrades, you see...
>
> Ooops, I almost forgot: forget about God, it's Jobs you must pray!
Oh dear, looks like yet another anti-Apple dumbass. :-(
Jolly Roger
<your.name-030...@203-109-175-52.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
your...@isp.com (Your Name) wrote:
Actually, it's one of the same trolls that has popped up here from time
to time. Filter accordingly.
jc
> Rather dumbly and against my own judgement, I upgraded my 3G to OS 4
> and while the OS is decent, it makes my phone run terribly slow.
> have the time to figure this out. Is there a single webpage
> that tells me how to downgrade? Apparently I need to jailbreak first
> which is fine..
> Please, any info would be greatly appreciated.
> Monique
I found the 4.01+2 hard reset things helped a bit, but the 3G still
much slower
than it was under OS3, and certain apps are much slower
under 4.0. In particular, the Google app (which I use a lot) REALLY,
REALLY sucks under 4.0. If there's a computer anywhere within a
5 minute walk, it's faster than waiting for the iPhone app to respond.
-jc