psychedelic spam

[*Hemidactylus*]

This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 23.10.23 um 19:26 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:

> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?

The most evil company of the internet: *GOOGLE*

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

[Hank Rogers]

Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 23.10.23 um 19:26 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
>> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?
>
> The most evil company of the internet: *GOOGLE*
>

Go get ‘em, jughead!

[badgolferman]

*Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?
>
>
>

I don’t see any spam. I use eternal-September as my newsserver so maybe
it’s filtered out by them. Give me a date/time/subject please.

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 24.10.23 um 11:59 schrieb badgolferman:

Quote Ray Banana in the German speaking NG de.comm.provider.usenet:

Google bläst seit mehr als 3 Wochen enorme Mengen von Spam ins Usenet.
(ist wohl auch auf NIN z.B. in com.lang.c, sci.crypt, uk.sci.weather
zu bewundern).

Ich habe in den letzten Wochen jeden Tag ~50.000 Spams gelöscht und
NoCeM-Nachrichten verschickt. Seit heute hat Google die Schlagzahl
nochmal deutlich erhöht und da kommt Cleanfeed mit eingebautem
SpamAssassin deutlich an seine Grenzen. Ich habe jetzt erstmal alle
Artikel von Google direkt geblockt, um Zeit und Luft zu haben für eine
Optimierung der Spamfilter-Kette.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Are you calling me a liar?

Just look for yourself:

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone

Not that difficult to find.

[badgolferman]

*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hemidactylus <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>>> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don’t see any spam. I use eternal-September as my newsserver so
>>maybe it’s filtered out by them. Give me a date/time/subject
>>please.
>Are you calling me a liar?
>
>Just look for yourself:
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone
>
>Not that difficult to find.

Like I said, I don't see any spam. Maybe you should talk to Giganews.
Here's my Message Pane:
https://ibb.co/ZLnYDXM

--
"Happiness, n. An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the
misery of another." ~ Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 24.10.23 um 12:31 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:

+1

[*Hemidactylus*]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hemidactylus <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>>>> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t see any spam. I use eternal-September as my newsserver so
>>> maybe it’s filtered out by them. Give me a date/time/subject
>>> please.
>> Are you calling me a liar?
>>
>> Just look for yourself:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone
>>
>> Not that difficult to find.
>
>
> Like I said, I don't see any spam. Maybe you should talk to Giganews.
> Here's my Message Pane:
> https://ibb.co/ZLnYDXM
>

You’re delusional.

[badgolferman]

*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you say that? I showed you my message tree. There's no spam
messages there like your Google Groups window has. It's obviously
being filtered at the server level. Isn't your newsserver Giganews?

From: "*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@allspamis.invalid>
Subject: Re: psychedelic spam
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:06:35 +0000
Message-ID: <9xydnXx5SYDWLqr4...@giganews.com>

[Paul Goodman]

Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the server
level. I use Giganews and they are not. I wish they would. That same spam
is showing up in the classical music newsgroups too.

—
Paul Goodman

[badgolferman]

Thank you, but of course Hemidactylus will not be as gracious as you.
He will double down and call me more bad names.

--
"Clinton lied. A man might forget where he parks or where he lives, but
he never forgets oral sex, no matter how bad it is." ~ Barbara Bush -
Former US First Lady

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:

> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the server
> level.

As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about it
very recently.

[badgolferman]

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>server level.
>
>As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about
>it very recently.

You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something the
majority of us can't read.

--
"My vision is to make the most diverse state on earth, and we have
people from every planet...On the earth in this state." ~ Gray Davis,
former governor of California

[Jolly Roger]

I see almost none of that with individual.net. I only see 2 spam posts
from "AMISHA JA NAI WILSON". And those are easily dealt with.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[*Hemidactylus*]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-24, *Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> *Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>>>> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?
>>>
>>> I don’t see any spam. I use eternal-September as my newsserver so maybe
>>> it’s filtered out by them. Give me a date/time/subject please.
>>>
>> Are you calling me a liar?
>>
>> Just look for yourself:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone
>>
>> Not that difficult to find.
>
> I see almost none of that with individual.net. I only see 2 spam posts
> from "AMISHA JA NAI WILSON". And those are easily dealt with.
>

Aha. Thanks for letting me know. As you are saying above the way
news-servers and Google Groups, whatever that abomination is considered,
handle spam differs.

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:

> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>> server level.
>>
>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about
>> it very recently.
>
>
> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something the
> majority of us can't read.

Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested you
would use it.

[Jolly Roger]

Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what you
write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in the
group. I'm not sure what post you are referring to, but i certainly
didn't bother translating it either.

[Wally J]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote

>>As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about
>>it very recently.
>
> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something the
> majority of us can't read.

Hi badgolferman,

1. I filter out Joerg so I went back to see what you're talking about.
2. It's in German for heaven's sake - and it references Ray Banana.
3. Nobody is gonna bother to translate something from Joerg
(even if Jorge wrote it in English, as he's an idiot)

However... you might not know who Ray Banana is (aka Wolfgang Weygand).
He's the long-time admin of the nntp server Eternal September.

I will bother to translate Joerg's idiocy below...
Quote ray banana in the German speaking ng de.comm.provider.usenet:
Google has been blowing enormous amounts of spam into the Usenet
for more than 3 weeks. (is probably also on nin in com.lang.c, '
sci.crypt, uk.sci.weather to admire).

I have deleted ~ 50,000 spams every day in the past few weeks
and Nocem messages sent. Since today, Google has the number of
strokes Again significantly increased and there is clean feed
with built -in Spamassassin clearly to his limits. I have everyone
now Article by Google blocked directly to have time and air
for one Optimization of the spam filter chain.

I'm not sure what exactly that is telling us though.
Maybe the idiot Joerg can translate that translation into English for us?

[badgolferman]

Forget Lorenz. I’m still wondering why Hemidactylus felt the need to talk
down to me when I was trying to help him. I told him his newsserver isn’t
filtering out the spam and somehow you felt insulted by that.

[badgolferman]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-25, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:
>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>>>> server level.
>>>>
>>>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about
>>>> it very recently.
>>>
>>>
>>> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something the
>>> majority of us can't read.
>>
>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested you
>> would use it.
>
> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what you
> write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in the
> group. I'm not sure what post you are referring to, but i certainly
> didn't bother translating it either.
>

Somebody write this day down! Jolly Roger and I actually agree with each
other…

[Hank Rogers]

May be best to let it ride a while. Everyone has bad days.

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 25.10.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:

> On 2023-10-25, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:
>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>>>> server level.
>>>>
>>>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote about
>>>> it very recently.
>>>
>>>
>>> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something the
>>> majority of us can't read.
>>
>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested you
>> would use it.
>
> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what you
> write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in the
> group.

I gave the source and the content. Translation is your job.

[Hank Rogers]

Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 25.10.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:

>> On 2023-10-25, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:

>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>>>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> server  level.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he
>>>>> wrote about
>>>>> it very recently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You didn't "say" anything to us.  You copied and pasted
>>>> something the
>>>> majority of us can't read.
>>>
>>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were
>>> interested you
>>> would use it.
>>
>> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading
>> what you
>> write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken
>> in the
>> group.
>
> I gave the source and the content. Translation is your job.
>
>

Jughead, I think you should always post your shit in german. It
makes us both happy.

[Jolly Roger]

Nah. Better things to do. Cope.

[Yamori]

*Hemidactylus* wrote:

> psychedelic spam

> This stuff is getting worse. Where’s it coming from?

It is coming from spammers using Google Groups as a gateway to Usenet.
They make money from sale of product, or from referring customers to
sellers, or from something similar. They spam to make money. They don’t
care about people like you who don’t want this spam; they care about the
money.


To not see this spam (to remove this spam before it gets to you), set
your newsreader to filter out posts with a Message-ID header containing,
googlegroups.com

If your newsreader cannot filter like this, get one which can.


You may *try* filing a spam complaint with Google. Nothing will happen.
You will eventually learn that Google does not care. (Or you may never
learn.)

[Jörg Lorenz]

Am 26.10.23 um 16:27 schrieb Jolly Roger:

> On 2023-10-26, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 25.10.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
>>> On 2023-10-25, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:
>>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>>>>>> server level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote
>>>>>> about it very recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something
>>>>> the majority of us can't read.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested
>>>> you would use it.
>>>
>>> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what
>>> you write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in
>>> the group.
>>
>> I gave the source and the content. Translation is your job.
>
> Nah. Better things to do. Cope.

Only uneducated people speak just one language. Poor boy!

[*Hemidactylus*]

You could have done us a favor and translated it into Tagalog or Farsi
then.

[Hank Rogers]

Poor JugHead is so bright, his family has to put a wash-tub
over him in order to see the sunrise.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:

>> Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> Am 26.10.23 um 16:27 schrieb Jolly Roger:

>>>> On 2023-10-26, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>> Am 25.10.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:

>>>>>> On 2023-10-25, Jörg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 23:11 schrieb badgolferman:

>>>>>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am 24.10.23 um 16:30 schrieb Paul Goodman:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eternal-September may very well be filtering out the spam at the
>>>>>>>>>> server level.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I said at the beginning of the thread: Ray does and he wrote
>>>>>>>>> about it very recently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't "say" anything to us. You copied and pasted something
>>>>>>>> the majority of us can't read.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested
>>>>>>> you would use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what
>>>>>> you write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in
>>>>>> the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> I gave the source and the content. Translation is your job.
>>>>
>>>> Nah. Better things to do. Cope.
>>>
>>> Only uneducated people speak just one language. Poor boy!
>>>
>> You could have done us a favor and translated it into Tagalog or Farsi
>> then.
>>
>
> Poor JugHead is so bright, his family has to put a wash-tub
> over him in order to see the sunrise.
>

You might want to translate wash-tub into his native language.

[Hank Rogers]

Not to worry. He speaks and understands thousands of languages.

Hell, he's as educated as arlen.

[Wally J]

Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote

> Hell, he's as educated as arlen.

Now that's going too far, "Hank Rogers", as that's a poor comparison.

I'm going to explain why - but my explanation assumes you own an adult
brain (which I've assumed until now - so don't disappoint me, "Hank").

First off, if you can't tell I'm intelligent & well educated, then it's you
who is the fool, not me.

Secondly, you're welcome to attempt to insult me, as I welcome any an all
attempts to do so, but if you equate me to "Jughead", then you're doubly a
fool.

Bear in mind I think it's funny when nospam, Jolly Roger, Alan Browne or
Alan Baker are not only desperate to insult me, but they do it using
kindergarten insults.

An example is Alan Brown thinks it's hilarious to call me an "it".

Likewise, nospam uses the "ftfy" to change the quoted quotes so that he can
glibly respond to his changed quotes (because he can't respond to the facts
in any other way than to change them to his own liking).

It would be better if you were to compare me to, oh, I don't know, there's
nobody on this newsgroup who has the intelligence & education that I have.

I guess with Steve being an EE, that's half my education, so that's a
starter. Plus add Chris' faux pHd in, of all things, medical biology (and
yet Chris ridiculed the use of "vehicle" when I used it in immunological
terms, where there probably isn't a paper out there on the topic that
doesn't use that word).

Even Jolly Roger told us many years ago he couldn't pass his GED, even as
he tried three times, so the only education they have, at best is 12th
grade.

Hell, if Alan Baker or Joerg Lorenze have even that level of education it
would be shocking given they have never shown any inkling of knowledge.

Remember, Alan Browne swears there is no walled garden, which is kind of
like denying that Donald Trump says stupid things - he's oblivious due to
the punch he drank, which is fine as people are allowed to be stupid.

But when they say stupid things, I will call them out on it.
You said something incredibly stupid - which is comparing me to Joerg.

That means you have no idea what you're talking about.
Since there is no comparison to be made.
--
My role on the child-like Apple newsgroup is to bring an adult point of
view to the utter nonsense that the ignorant iKooks say which isn't true.

[Wally J]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Bullshit: Google translation exists. If you really were interested you
>>> would use it.
>>
>> Counterpoint: If you were really interested in people reading what you
>> write, you'd write it in the prevalent language being spoken in the
>> group. I'm not sure what post you are referring to, but i certainly
>> didn't bother translating it either.
>>
>
> Somebody write this day down! Jolly Roger and I actually agree with each
> other…

Double that agreement, as I will agree with _what_ people say, and I don't
even _look_ at _who_ said it - unless who said it matters (which generally
isn't important to me unless I'm proving a point about _that_ person).

As with badgolferman, when Jolly Roger says something sensible, I'll
readily agree with him. Hell, I'll agree with nospam if he says something
logical.

If Alan Browne states a fact, I'll agree with him too - as only fools deny
facts (which, by the way, is _why_ they're the fools that they are).

Hell... even if Alan Baker or Joerg Lorenz states a fact, I...I'...I'll...
Oh. I forgot. I have both of them (and Snit & Rod Speed) in the killfile.

It takes a _lot_ for me to put someone in the killfile, but they earned it
by never saying anything of any value on this newsgroup, badgolferman.

Back to Jolly Roger, despite his low education, low IQ and hatred for any
facts about Apple products, even Jolly Roger says insightful things at
times.

Which is why I don't plonk him...

And... more importantly... I've said this many times...
*I learn from what Jolly Roger says on this child-like newsgroup*

Because Jolly Roger is the typical unfiltered mind of the Apple user.
--
My role on the child-like Apple newsgroups is to bring facts to the fore.

[Hank Rogers]

I thought your name is wally.