How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
A: ?

I'll tackle using the latest iOS on the latest Windows before I tackle
doing the same thing on the latest Ubuntu (17.10).

Since this is a new iOS 11.1.2 iPad on a new Windows 10 installation, I
decided to first try the USB method that works so well with Android.
http://i.cubeupload.com/OgSZr1.jpg

The good news is that when I plugged the iOS 11.1.2 device into Windows 10
Creator's Edition, up popped a series of three bottom-right notifications.
- Setting up a device. We're setting up 'iPad'.
- Apple iPad. Select to choose what happens with this device.
- Device is ready. 'Apple iPad' is set up and ready to go.

When I doubleclicked on the PC, a new "Apple iPad" showed up under "Devices
and Drives", which shows an empty "109GB free of 119GB" on the iPad.\

The iPad popped up a message "Allow this device to access photos and
videos", to which I selected "Allow".
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZIG92A.jpg

Then a single iPad "DCIM" directory showed in the Windows File Explorer.
PC > Apple iPad > Internal Storage > DCIM

That single directory contained a small set of image files on the iPad.
PC > Apple iPad > Internal Storage > DCIM > 100APPLE > IMG_0001.PNG

I could easily slide those iPad photo/video files to Windows over USB:
http://i.cubeupload.com/bDuiA6.jpg

Unfortunately, the reverse doesn't work.

When you slide a Windows image onto this DCIM folder, nothing happens.

So at the moment, I'm not sure if this simple USB method is only one way,
or if there is a trick to be able to put files from Windows 10 to iOS 11
over USB using this method.

[nospam]

In article <p7ugn2$kb9$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
> A: ?

still can't figure it out, eh?

this has been explained to you dozens of times.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320181250467340%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
>> A: ?
>
> still can't figure it out, eh?
>
> this has been explained to you dozens of times.

You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
don't work in the real world.

[nospam]

In article <p7uhnv$m0n$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> >> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
> >> A: ?
> >
> > still can't figure it out, eh?
> >
> > this has been explained to you dozens of times.
>
> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
> don't work in the real world.

nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
with windows, linux, *bsd and others.

[Jolly Roger]

He ignores those, because: troll. Sabotaging himself and then
complaining about it is his favorite trolling method. The old fart is an
accomplished bumbling idiot.

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JR

[nospam]

In article <fgg1pb...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >>
> >> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
> >> don't work in the real world.
> >
> > nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
> > with windows, linux, *bsd and others.
>
> He ignores those, because: troll. Sabotaging himself and then
> complaining about it is his favorite trolling method. The old fart is an
> accomplished bumbling idiot.

a bumbling idiot would have more success than he ever could.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320181331464990%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>>>> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
>>>> don't work in the real world.
>>>
>>> nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
>>> with windows, linux, *bsd and others.
>>
>> He ignores those, because: troll. Sabotaging himself and then
>> complaining about it is his favorite trolling method. The old fart is an
>> accomplished bumbling idiot.
>
> a bumbling idiot would have more success than he ever could.

Appreciating your suggestion, I agree with you that /lots/ of methods might
work - including using the ridiculous suggestion of using the Internet to
move a file the six inches from the device on the table to the desktop on
that same table.

I'm sure that you, Jolly Roger, have even more insane suggestions, born of
your ignorance of facts, which always seem to require Apple-software that
doesn't actually work in the real world.

While nospam knows all his suggestions don't work in the real world, you're
incapable of understanding the real world.

Your ignorance notwithstanding, the question at hand is looking for a
/good/ (or even best) method of transferring desired large and small files
between iOS and Linux/Windows.

For example, this method works over USB to bring large files back and
forth, between iOS and Linux/Windows, without having to load any
proprietary software on Linux/Windows.
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

While I found a few methods that work to transfer files to and from Windows
and the iOS device via both USB & Wi-Fi over the LAN, I'm testing these out
as we speak to see if I can find the best ones.
http://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg

As an example, that screenshot was brought over by just clicking in Windows
to slide the screenshot from the iOS device to Windows over USB.
http://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7v2io$1k8i$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> For example, this method works over USB to bring large files back and
> forth, between iOS and Linux/Windows, without having to load any
> proprietary software on Linux/Windows.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg
>
> While I found a few methods that work to transfer files to and from Windows
> and the iOS device via both USB & Wi-Fi over the LAN, I'm testing these out
> as we speak to see if I can find the best ones.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg
>
> As an example, that screenshot was brought over by just clicking in Windows
> to slide the screenshot from the iOS device to Windows over USB.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg

Correction. That screenshot of VLC bringing a large movie file either way,
from iOS to Windows/Linux or vice versa, was over Wi-Fi (not USB).
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

This is the USB method of bringing any files from iOS to Windows.
http://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg

This USB method is the simplest (it just works); but I haven't figured yet
how to make the USB transfer method work both ways with iOS 11.x.

If anyone here has the brains (that's not you Jolly Roger) to answer this
question, it would be helpful to all:

Q: How can we make simple USB drag-n-drop file-transfer work both ways between iOS & Windows?
A: ?

--
HINT: If you're an Apple Apologist, please don't respond because you aren't
smart enough to know how to answer even a simple question like this one
because Apple Marketing hasn't fed you that answer (and never will).

[nospam]

In article <p7v2v9$1ku2$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> Q: How can we make simple USB drag-n-drop file-transfer work both ways between iOS & Windows?
> A: ?

'we' do it every day.

'you' still can't figure it out.

[nospam]

In article <p7v2io$1k8i$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> >>>> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you /know/
> >>>> don't work in the real world.
> >>>
> >>> nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
> >>> with windows, linux, *bsd and others.
> >>
> >> He ignores those, because: troll. Sabotaging himself and then
> >> complaining about it is his favorite trolling method. The old fart is an
> >> accomplished bumbling idiot.
> >
> > a bumbling idiot would have more success than he ever could.
>
> Appreciating your suggestion, I agree with you that /lots/ of methods might
> work - including using the ridiculous suggestion of using the Internet to
> move a file the six inches from the device on the table to the desktop on
> that same table.

along with the *numerous* ones that don't.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-09, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

It'd be comical if it wasn't so fucking SAD...

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-09, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Yet again, he ignores those, because: troll. It's his modus operandi.

[nospam]

In article <fggiij...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> >>>> You constantly say to use "AirDrop" or "iTunes", both of which you
> >> >>>> /know/ don't work in the real world.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> nope. i've repeatedly listed *numerous* methods, all of which will work
> >> >>> with windows, linux, *bsd and others.
> >> >>
> >> >> He ignores those, because: troll. Sabotaging himself and then
> >> >> complaining about it is his favorite trolling method. The old fart is an
> >> >> accomplished bumbling idiot.
> >> >
> >> > a bumbling idiot would have more success than he ever could.
> >>
> >> Appreciating your suggestion, I agree with you that /lots/ of methods might
> >> work - including using the ridiculous suggestion of using the Internet to
> >> move a file the six inches from the device on the table to the desktop on
> >> that same table.
> >
> > along with the *numerous* ones that don't.
>
> Yet again, he ignores those, because: troll. It's his modus operandi.

apparently he forgot about having set up an ftp server on his phone.

not that anyone suggested such an absurd method, but it does fit his
requirements of no internet and as difficult as possible.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-09, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Indeed. : D

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320181826004253%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> apparently he forgot about having set up an ftp server on his phone.

I commend you, nospam, for remembering a fact.

Since it's actually rare for you to remember anything factual, I'll bother
to explain that one of the free FTP servers used in the past on iOS was a
free FTP server by Savy Soda, which no longer seems to exist on the app
store when I run a search for it on the iPad.
http://www.savysoda.com/WiFiFTP/

When I search, I can find this on the net, but not on the iPad itself:
https://itunes.apple.com/US/app/id346724641?mt=8

I'm not sure why that shows up in the URL above but not in the iPad. Maybe
the iOS search has another bug. I don't know why it doesn't show up, but it
doesn't. Maybe it's not ported to iOS 11. I don't know why it won't show
up, but it won't. So I gave up, which is common on iOS for people to have
to do. (On Android, I'd just find another repo, for example, if it exists.)

I did put the Savy Soda WiFi HD Free tool in my test directory though:
http://i.cubeupload.com/HSdYlq.jpg

So, kudos to you for simply remembering a fact, which I admit, I didn't
think you had it in you since facts aren't your shtick.

[nospam]

In article <p7vfkd$676$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Since it's actually rare for you to remember anything factual, I'll bother
> to explain that one of the free FTP servers used in the past on iOS was a
> free FTP server by Savy Soda, which no longer seems to exist on the app
> store when I run a search for it on the iPad.
> http://www.savysoda.com/WiFiFTP/

it's obviously been discontinued.

they haven't even updated their web site to modern web standards.

> When I search, I can find this on the net, but not on the iPad itself:
> https://itunes.apple.com/US/app/id346724641?mt=8
>
> I'm not sure why that shows up in the URL above but not in the iPad.

i am.

> Maybe
> the iOS search has another bug. I don't know why it doesn't show up, but it
> doesn't. Maybe it's not ported to iOS 11.

you're getting warmer.

here's a clue: they added support for ios 4 in july, 2010.

that's *eight* *years* *ago* for compatibility with a version of ios
that itself is seven versions back, a version which won't run on any
recent devices.

> I don't know why it won't show
> up, but it won't. So I gave up,

you do that a lot.

you found *one* ftp app, one which is 8 years old and does not work,
then ceased searching for alternatives that do work.

you also haven't looked at non-ftp solutions.

you gave up.

> which is common on iOS for people to have
> to do. (On Android, I'd just find another repo, for example, if it exists.)

no need to do that on ios.

> I did put the Savy Soda WiFi HD Free tool in my test directory though:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/HSdYlq.jpg

those aren't even alphabetical.

how can you find anything? you're very disorganized.

> So, kudos to you for simply remembering a fact, which I admit, I didn't
> think you had it in you since facts aren't your shtick.

that would be you.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:090320182150511706%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> you found *one* ftp app, one which is 8 years old and does not work,
> then ceased searching for alternatives that do work.

You were doing well, and actually staying within the realm of fact, until
you made this utterly baseless claim, since I already posted methods that
refute your claim above.

What's odd about you is that you don't seem to value your credibility since
you make so many statements that are baseless, and easily proven so, within
this very thread alone.

> you also haven't looked at non-ftp solutions.

Again, you show a lack of comprehension since I already posted a screenshot
of my test directory, for example, which shows plenty of solutions, most of
which aren't FTP-based.

> you gave up.

Yet again, your lack of comprehension isn't because you're stupid, simply
becuase you're not stupid (Jolly Roger ... he's stupid. But not you.)

You want to say I gave up, when you know that I've posted already verfiable
screenshots of non-FTP solutions and FTP solutions alike.

What's odd about you, nospam, is that your entire belief system isn't based
on a shred of actual fact. Your beliefs are based, it seems, on wishful
thinking.

> those aren't even alphabetical.
>
> how can you find anything? you're very disorganized.

hehhehheh... good one. So you /do/ remember facts when you want to! :)

>> So, kudos to you for simply remembering a fact, which I admit, I didn't
>> think you had it in you since facts aren't your shtick.
>
> that would be you.

Let's face it, nospam.

Your entire belief system is based on what you /wish/ the world is like,
so, as shown in this very post that I'm responding to from you, facts
aren't your shtick.

You're different from the other half-dozen Apple Apologists in that they
can't comprehend the simplest of facts - but you can - you just live in an
imaginary world of iOS functionality that you can never prove actually
exists (because it doesn't exist).

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-10, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <p7vfkd$676$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
><ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe the iOS search has another bug. I don't know why it doesn't
>> show up, but it doesn't. Maybe it's not ported to iOS 11.
>
> you're getting warmer.
>
> here's a clue: they added support for ios 4 in july, 2010.
>
> that's *eight* *years* *ago* for compatibility with a version of ios
> that itself is seven versions back, a version which won't run on any
> recent devices.
>
>> I don't know why it won't show up, but it won't. So I gave up,
>
> you do that a lot.
>
> you found *one* ftp app, one which is 8 years old and does not work,
> then ceased searching for alternatives that do work.
>
> you also haven't looked at non-ftp solutions.
>
> you gave up.

All while constantly claiming iOS users "just give up"... Priceless. The
old man is a *humongous* fool.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgh5bc...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> you gave up.
>
> All while constantly claiming iOS users "just give up"... Priceless. The
> old man is a *humongous* fool.

On that note, this was the next app tested:
https://www.jrmobileapps.com/usb-flash-drive/

USB Drive, by JR mobile.
http://i.cubeupload.com/W5Eo7K.jpg

USB Drive crashed within seconds of running it, and it crashed numerous
times while using it, where the iPad is brand new, and hence as stock as it
gets.
http://i.cubeupload.com/I2ADtk.jpg

USB Drive purports to share files via Bluetooth, SMB, HTTP, and FTP.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Lm1n8B.jpg

Testing out the Bluetooth first, it seeks another iPhone, iPad, or iPod
touch, to share files.
http://i.cubeupload.com/GMsWlE.jpg

But as it did that, it popped up a full-screen loud and obnoxious ad, which
is just rude, so it's a lousy app (where only on iOS have I ever seen such
ads!).
http://i.cubeupload.com/bSrpUI.jpg

The ad took up the entire screen, and worse, took /multiple/ clicks to get
rid of it, as there was another ad just below the first one!
http://i.cubeupload.com/Oi9Kta.jpg

After that rudeness, when I tried to turn on the FTP server, USB Drive
actually had the gall to ask us to purchase a removal of the obnoxious ads,
which is just insane.
http://i.cubeupload.com/DiCAve.jpg

Same situation with SMB.
http://i.cubeupload.com/D5y7pA.jpg

Only on iOS are apps this dumb since on Android, I've never seen what I
just saw, and I've been on Android for a very long time with /hundreds/ of
apps installed.

USB Drive, is, much like Jolly Roger himself, all promise and no substance.
.

[nospam]

In article <p7vq4o$jll$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> After that rudeness, when I tried to turn on the FTP server, USB Drive
> actually had the gall to ask us to purchase a removal of the obnoxious ads,
> which is just insane.

that's how ad-supported apps work.

the app itself is free and the developer makes money via ads.

if you don't want the ads, spend a buck or two and they go away. very
simple.

it's no different on android.

> Only on iOS are apps this dumb since on Android, I've never seen what I
> just saw, and I've been on Android for a very long time with /hundreds/ of
> apps installed.

bull fucking shit.

free apps on android have a *lot* of ads, generally *more* annoying
than on ios, plus if the ads are *in* the app (versus loading a web
page), you can't block them.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:100320180049335049%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> Only on iOS are apps this dumb since on Android, I've never seen what I
>> just saw, and I've been on Android for a very long time with /hundreds/ of
>> apps installed.
>
> bull fucking shit.
>
> free apps on android have a *lot* of ads, generally *more* annoying
> than on ios, plus if the ads are *in* the app (versus loading a web
> page), you can't block them.

I've explained to you many times that you always pick the /worst/
comparisons possible, simply because any fool can find a terrible
comparison.

It takes brains and effort to find a good free tool.

Besides, I haven't seen a /single/ ad on my Android phone in years! Even
now, on an unlocked Moto-G, I watch YouTube movies day in and day out with
NewPipe, and /never/ do I see a single ad, whereas, on iOS, YouTube is
chock full of ads.

Anyway, I moved on to another tool to test, which was Air Transfer which
appears to simply be an http server which provides the address
http://192.168.1.14:8080 to connect with the iOS device over the WiFi LAN
on Windows or Linux.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Z5EBId.jpg

Air Transfer had no problem seeing the "Camera Roll" from Windows/Linux but
where the restrictions showed their ugly face the moment you selected more
than 10 pictures to upload, so the tool is basically worthless.
http://i.cubeupload.com/snU6k0.jpg

There didn't seem to be a two-way file transfer.
http://i.cubeupload.com/r4qWDi.jpg

And while the app GUI on iOS showed categories for Music, Movies,
Documents, etc., the "import" button only imported "photos & videos".
http://i.cubeupload.com/DX0O3V.jpg

So I created a document in the "Pages" app, and shared that document to
"Air Transfer", which was then able to download that document to the
Windows/Linux desktop as a zip file.
http://i.cubeupload.com/x3NBSx.jpg

The good news is that Air Transfer worked. It created a Zip file.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QGBaAU.jpg

The bad news is that it's limited to 10 files at a time and that it's
unidirectional.
http://i.cubeupload.com/FTJtaG.jpg

Air Transfer has an advantage over the unrestricted Transfer app, in that
Air Transfer handles more than just the camera roll but it's restricted on
number of files, so it's a tentative keeper (but not all that good).

I'd keep Air Transfer only if nothing else shows up for WiFi transfer to
Windows/Linux that is any better.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7vucv$pdj$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> I'd keep Air Transfer only if nothing else shows up for WiFi transfer to
> Windows/Linux that is any better.

Next USB app to be tested was FileManager.
http://i.cubeupload.com/mBjj0n.jpg

I hit the plus button, and the menu said we could "add file from computer",
which is useful so I hit that first.
http://i.cubeupload.com/SNMDUA.jpg

It then said to connect the device to USB (which was already connected) and
"launch iTunes", so, um, that's a dead end right there as it's never going
to work in the real world on Windows/Linux desktops.
http://i.cubeupload.com/NgMlD7.jpg

[nospam]

In article <p7vucv$pdj$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> It takes brains and effort to find a good free tool.

that explains why you continually have so much trouble.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:100320181018431799%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> It takes brains and effort to find a good free tool.
>
> that explains why you continually have so much trouble.

As you prove time and again, adults are few and far between on this iOS
newsgroup - hence I will move onward with the quest to summarize those free
apps which prove themselves capable of transferring files back and forth
between iOS and Linux/Windows (aka, the real world).

These free iOS apps seem capable of transferring files in the real world:
http://i.cubeupload.com/HtlboC.jpg

- My File Explorer
- WiFi HD
- Transfer
- Air Transfer
- MarkDisk
- WiFi photo

These are not worth looking at further for reasons stated prior.
https://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg

- uDisk
- FSHaring
- iFamilyShare
- File Master
- USB Drive
- File Bus No.9
- FileManager
- WiFiAlbumFree
etc.

More technical factual details to follow when they are available.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgiadc...@mid.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> Oh I don't believe he ignores them, he probably even uses them. But he
> also keeps looking for the most ignorant way to do something so he can
> troll this and other groups. Was there ever a doubt that when he said
> he was getting a new iPad, that he wouldn't soon be on here with some
> of his usual bullshit?

Hey Lloyd,
Q: Why do you write that transferring files in the real world is bullshit?
http://i.cubeupload.com/HtlboC.jpg

For a while, you had acted like an adult, which is a rarity on this iOS
newsgroup, so it was a welcome sight - but it didn't last long.

As one adult, presumably to another, I would like to ask you why you feel
that asking how best to transfer files in the real world is 'bullshit'.

I've tested more than a dozen programs that purport to transfer files from
iOS to and from Linux/Windows, where my quick tests are done, leaving these
for the next assessment of more details on functionality:

- My File Explorer
- WiFi HD
- Transfer
- Air Transfer
- MarkDisk
- WiFi photo

Given that this thread is merely a technical question which shouldn't be
scaring you out of your wits. It's strange that you're so deathly afraid of
facts such that you say that figuring out how to transfer files in the real
world is "bullshit".

Since you feel valid verified facts are bullshit, I must ask you, as one
adult, presumably to another ...

Q: Why do you write that transferring files in the real world is bullshit?
http://i.cubeupload.com/HtlboC.jpg

[sms]

On 3/9/2018 9:36 AM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
> A: ?

You can by this app <https://www.fonepaw.com/ios-transfer/>. $34.95.

You can use iTunes.

[nospam]

In article <p82q2s$nf$1...@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

that's yet another instance of chinese spamware which goes under many,
many different names and is complete garbage.

there is also no need to spend anywhere near that much. there are
numerous ways to do what he claims to want to do, some of which are
completely free and others a few bucks, but he refuses to try any of
them. instead, he wastes time trying all the crapware he can find just
so he can rant.

> You can use iTunes.

that's too easy. his solution must be as convoluted and difficult as
possible.

it also won't do everything he claims to want to do, so not an ideal
solution.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p82q2s$nf$1...@dont-email.me>, sms wrote:

> On 3/9/2018 9:36 AM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
>> Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over USB?
>> A: ?
>

> You can use iTunes.

Hi sms,
It's refreshing to find another adult on these iOS newsgroups, as adults
are in short supply.

Since you're an adult, I will use reason and logic in analyzing your
intentionally helpful suggestions.

*iTunes*
We already know iTunes doesn't work in the real world, since Apple doesn't
support Linux, so one would have to employ emulation such as Wine, which is
its own abomination.

Besides, far simpler solutions exist, such as USB on /native/ Windows:
https://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg

Over Wi-Fi, adding a single good iOS app provides this capability:
https://i.cubeupload.com/uyot4R.jpg

> You can by this app <https://www.fonepaw.com/ios-transfer/>. $34.95.

As you are aware, I always explore all purposefully helpful suggestions,
where I write back my thoughts so that other adults may benefit.

Looking at that $35 monolithick PhonePaw app, it purports to be a better
iTunes alternative, where, as you're likely aware, there are /many/ iTunes
alternatives available, all of which claim that they have far fewer
restrictions than does iTunes, including this rather expensive PhonePaw
app.

The PhonePaw app claims to
- Have fewer unnecessary restrictions than does iTunes
- Works on Windows but not on Linux
- Transfers videos, movies, podcasts, memos, photos, books, & contacts

Oddly, this $35 iTunes-alternative app, which claims to provide better
functionality than does iTunes, actually /requires/ iTunes to already be
installed!

Having said that, the flaws in PhonePaw are the same as in iTunes, where
PhonePaw can't even work without iTunes, so I think it's a bust with
respect to the originally stated goals (as noted in the OP).

However, thank you for suggesting an alternative to consider - but this
alternative doesn't work in the real world - and even if it did - it still
requires iTunes - which itself doesn't work in the real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:110320180923451162%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> that's yet another instance of chinese spamware which goes under many,
> many different names and is complete garbage.

As always, nospam is /different/ than the rest of the half-dozen child-like
Apple Apologists, in that nospam actually has comprehensive capabilities,
as shown in this assessment of that well-marketed but essentially useless
"fonepaw" iTunes alternative software, which itself, requires iTunes in
order to work - and which doesn't work in the real world as a result.

> there is also no need to spend anywhere near that much.

Again, nospam shows he's different than the other half-dozen child-like
Apple Apologists, in that nospam /understands/ that there are /plenty/ of
itunes alternatives out there, where this fonepaw can't even come close to
its claims, since, for one reason, it /requires/ iTunes to exist, which, as
noted, doesn't work in the real world.

Hence, fonepaw can't work in the real world, and even if it did, even
nospam knows there are plenty of better iTunes alternatives out there.

> there are
> numerous ways to do what he claims to want to do, some of which are
> completely free and others a few bucks, but he refuses to try any of
> them.

Unlike the prior comments where nospam showed that he had the
comprehsensive ability of a normal adult, here you see nospam instantly
revert to his child-like belief system which is entirely devoid of fact.

Like the other half-dozen child-like Apple Apologists Jolly Roger, Lewis,
dorayme, & BK@onRamp, the child person inside of nospam can't /comprehend/
that I already have a solution that works just fine using exactly what
nospam says I didn't use.

What's odd about nospam is that he cares not a whit about his utter lack of
credibility in making statements that he probably actually believes, much
like dorayme, Lewis, Jolly Roger, BKatOnRamp and the other child-like Apple
Appologists are.

This untoward statement by the child-like nospam is yet another proof that
the entire belief system of the half dozen child-like Apple Apologists is
built upon ideas that even they can't support with a single fact.

> instead, he wastes time trying all the crapware he can find just
> so he can rant.

Again, nospam can't resist his child-like motiviation to accuse anyone who
presents facts he doesn't like, as a 'rant' against his beloved iOS
infrastructure.

It's interesting that /all/ the half-dozen child-like Apple Apologists
instantly revert to complete fabrications, because their entire belief
system is built upon absolutely zero actual facts.

>
>> You can use iTunes.
>
> that's too easy. his solution must be as convoluted and difficult as
> possible.

Again, nospam reverts instantly into child-like comprehensive thought
processes, as he knows full well that I use Linux daily, and that the
original post asked for a solution that actually works in the real world.

Like the other half dozen child-like Apple Apologists, Lewis, dorayme,
BkatOnRamp, Jolly Roger, etc., nospam can't /comprehend/ a solutiokn that
fits the problem set.

That nospam says what he said above is more evidence that the child-like
Apple Apologists live completely ensconced in an imaginary fabricated world
that isn't supported by a single verifiable fact.

> it also won't do everything he claims to want to do, so not an ideal
> solution.

This statement by nospam, which actually, surprisingly, shows adult
comprehensive capabilities, is what nospam is different than the rest of
the other half-dozen child-like Apple Apologists, dorayme, Lewis, Jolly
Roger, BKatOnRamp, etc.

In short - back to sms' fonepaw suggestion - I already have a pretty good
solution, which actually works in the real world - and where I do agree
with the surprisingly adult-like assessment by nospam that the phonepaw
application you helpfully suggested, is essentially worthless.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p83ciu$sn1$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> It's interesting that /all/ the half-dozen child-like Apple Apologists
> instantly revert to complete fabrications, because their entire belief
> system is built upon absolutely zero actual facts.

BTW, for /others/ reading this thread, notice that the other Apple
Apologists, such as Savageduck, can /never/ back up /any/ of their
assertions with facts - as was already proven in this thread - since
Savageduck declined to prove his own statements (which I knew to be
complete fabrications).

Look at /anything/ ever said by Jolly Roger, for example, all of which are
untoward rants said by anyone who says a fact he doesn't like about iOS.

Even dorayme, admittedly as emotional as is Savageduck and hence utterly
devoid of any ability to back up her statements in fact, can only post
unrelated drivel.

The point is that /all/ the half-dozen child-like Apple Apologists live in
a completely fabricated imaginary world which is /threatened/ by facts.

If these child-like Apple Apologists simply disappeared, this newsgroup
would finally be as technically useful and informative as the linux,
android, and windows newsgroups are.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p7ugn2$kb9$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

To update the tribal record so that other iOS users can learn how to
interface iOS devices over USB to Windows and Linux in the real world, the
Windows solution "just worked" so there's nothing more to say.

Plug in the iOS device to Windows, and slide files back & forth.
https://i.cubeupload.com/bDuiA6.jpg

Since Windows just works, I booted to Linux (Ubuntu 17.10) where Linux just
worked to use the native Nautilus file explorer to slide iOS files back &
forth.
https://i.cubeupload.com/F74KFn.jpg

So the only current stumbling block is that it's easier to get Wi-Fi to
work with iOS on Linux than USB, which should have just worked, but didn't.

Plugging in the iOS device into Linux caused it to show up as a "camera".
http://i.cubeupload.com/q03ayQ.jpg

But doubleclicking on that camera doesn't open up the iPad's file system:
http://i.cubeupload.com/mFy15k.jpg
This location could not be displayed.
Failed to get folder list.
Unspecified error.

I would ask how to solve that here on the iOS newsgroup, but by now it's
patently clear that nobody on this iOS ng knows anything about interfacing
in the real world (although nospam will claim to always have the "secret"
that he just can't tell anyone but that he and all the iOS apologists
know).

So I'll ask on the Linux newsgroup, where adults reside.

[nospam]

In article <p87cnk$1755$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> I would ask how to solve that here on the iOS newsgroup, but by now it's
> patently clear that nobody on this iOS ng knows anything about interfacing
> in the real world

way more than you ever will.

> (although nospam will claim to always have the "secret"
> that he just can't tell anyone but that he and all the iOS apologists
> know).

i've told you numerous times.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

So he changed his story to John Gohde "mentioning" him. There is no question this is an insomniac troll writing because some of them are direct responses in very specific ways that underscore they are a response. Meaning someone is hand writing many of these. I think the point is not really to get people to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for spraying outside groups he knows I frequent.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

By being taught by 'social warriors' like that you get moral imperatives like 'reverse racism'. Carried to its (un)reasonable solution, the push that it's 'unfair' for a conservative dude to not wish to screw a child is created.

When I got here, I wanted to be unprejudiced and unbiased. I gave Autumn Elizabeth Nissen more than a reasonable person could be expected to. The Holy Ghost created at least 20 virtual systems in the last year or so. Let us all have a moment of silence as we honor his accomplishments!

Planck and Autumn Elizabeth Nissen had their snafus and their humiliations. One played it off as someone else's mistake and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be presented as the wagging of a dog.

So what's Autumn Elizabeth Nissen's system for the flooding insanity? FileMaker? That is the only tool he knows, at least that I have seen. He must be using it to write these annoying "flooding" threads. My hypothesis, Autumn Elizabeth Nissen took some code that he pirated and blamed The Holy Ghost for... he is feeding it content from this group, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then re-writing those using the Baum–Welch method and then he annoyingly posts them because his insanity enables him to do that practically constantly.



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[Steven Petruzzellis]

On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 7:31:16 PM UTC-7, nospam wrote:

My view is much more sophisticated. I think the point is more than to get them to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for spraying outside groups he knows I frequent. Can you knock off begging for my attention?

So Flatfish changed his story to Satan talking about his family.

That is the problem with millennials and uneducated teachers don't stand a chance, people from past generations SHOULD know better than to fall for the indoctrination BS. Now let us see knows C, is an IT "master", has hacked Satan's ID, has an obsession and is a huge tantrum throwing redneck who, when he is quoted lying, posts endless nonsense even when he's *not* flooding... AND... who endeavors to blame everything _he_ is doing on "others" and has for years? His wish is to see me annoyed by nonstop flooding. And hey, that could kill this group. Another successful Cooledit test. That is if you count slow and buggy as a success.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

You are mere seconds away from being in my kill file. Some time ago I did work on and showed some C for the front end (only works on my computer) which is the only thing you can do when trying to avoid J Burns's dishonest crap while reading with Google Groups. What did Zeus expect from the lying imbecile? That J Burns dork has nothing to lose but time. He has nothing else, especially not a life.

I am not going to play like Zeus didn't help me when I needed it and I am indebted to him for his time. J Burns has my example as an example and can begin to seem like he is not just making things up from this day forward... as always he made an ass of himself when he trolled Zeus. He is as incompetent as J Burns. It's a never ending war, and J Burns is simultaneously a master at off-the-cuff trolling remarks, while posting with socks with a myriad of tells.



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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:120320182231151579%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> I would ask how to solve that here on the iOS newsgroup, but by now it's
>> patently clear that nobody on this iOS ng knows anything about interfacing
>> in the real world
>
> way more than you ever will.

Given that the iOS newsgroup is filled with little children who live in an
imaginary world that doesn't actually bear any resemblance to the real
world, everyone has been acting like adults on the Windows newsgroup.

Here's my verbatim response to the suggestion of using bluetooth, at least
for the small files such as screenshots, that transfer in seconds.

==== < cut for copy of response about bluetooth on Windows > =====
Zaidy036 <Zaid...@air.isp.spam> wrote:

> USB to BT are inexpensive devices.

To add to the tribal knowledge of the group, I'll expand on your suggestion
of adding a BT dongle or PCI card to the desktop.
http://www.wirelesshack.org/how-to-add-bluetooth-to-a-pc-laptop-or-desktop.html

While I'm soured on dongles, which, for me, tend to break off as people
walk by my machine (ask me how I know this), certainly PCI cards are cheap,
as you noted.

Googling a bit, here's a $12 BT dongle from Walmart:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sabrent-Micro-Wireless-USB-Bluetooth-Adapter/15819367

Given my laptop is running WiFi out of the Ethernet port, I could also use
a WiFi card (since I broke my WiFi dongle - see above) where this is a $43
PCI card that adds both WiFi and Bluetooth to the desktop:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019JH89YI

Once your files are in "visible" space, then you can transfer those files
to Linux or Windows via at least these methods:
1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files)
2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out)
5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop)
6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc.)

[nospam]

In article <p8a9sl$67b$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Here's my verbatim response to the suggestion of using bluetooth, at least
> for the small files such as screenshots, that transfer in seconds.

it's a fraction of a second with wifi, plus you don't even have
bluetooth, making your claim of 'seconds' completely false.

...

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:140320180525119134%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> it's a fraction of a second with wifi, plus you don't even have
> bluetooth, making your claim of 'seconds' completely false.

As always, the children on the iOS newsgroup nit pick on non existing
issues where nobody ever said otherwise.

Moving forward, one of the helpful adults on the Windows newsgroup
suggested the iMazing app, and he made the opinion that iOS isn't primitive
so much as different ... to which I just responded ... as shown below so
that others can benefit from the test of the iMazing app.

==== < response to Windows group about the iMazing app > =====

From Paul:
> There's nothing primitive about that.

Hi Paul,
You're reasonable so I understand your point that "different" isn't
primitive, where I think I "can" argue iOS is primitive in functionality
compared to all other operating systems - but most people only see
"different", I agree.

For example, here's the app launcher on iOS as best it can be organized:
https://u.cubeupload.com/0Mattl.jpg

Here's that same setup on Android using a modern app launcher (where the
organization is meant for single-hand left-hand operation that fits my hand
size).
http://i.cubeupload.com/0Uldf2.jpg

Organizing like that is just not possible on iOS because, yes, iOS is
clearly different, but it's also clearly primitive in functionality.

There's no good reason for Apple to not allow people to put icons where
they want them on their mobile device desktop and to not allow people to
remove the dock if there's nothing inside of it. There are a billion of
these idiotic restrictions in iOS. It's not so much that it's different,
but it's not functional compared to all other operating systems.

Nonetheless, this isn't a discussion about iOS but it is a discussion of
HOW to interface what little there is of iOS that is interfacable with
Windows.

My biggest stumbling block is SMB because I don't know how to use it.
I can put an SMB server on iOS, such that the URL becomes:
smb://192.168.1.14
But I don't know what to do with that on Windows.

> It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of commercial
> content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes policies,
> whatever they are this week).

Hi Paul,
Yes. I have had iOS products for many years, and I've used that iTunes
abomination well enough to know it's like a very bad guest in your house,
best left uninvited, where it also brings in all its bad friends along
whenever it shows up.

There's nothing that the iTunes abomination can do that we can't do on our
own, and, better yet - I happen to be dual boot, where whatever I set up
has to work in the real world (where Linux exists in the real world).

> By exposing DCIM over MTP, unidirectional, that is an "emulation"
> of a digital camera

Hi Paul,
Thanks for explaining that the iPad DCIM directory shows up as an emulated
camera.

I assumed that is what it was since on Linux, the iPad actually shows up as
a camera.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Qpq8Bc.png

Like a camera, it's only one way where you can't slide from Linux to the
iPad "camera" DCIM directory.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CmK9un.png

> Whatever is shot through the lens of the
> camera on your iPad is "your" content, it doesn't belong to Getty
> or anyone else. You can download the DCIM files, in the same
> sense you can download files from DCIM on your regular digital camera.

You are correct Paul, and I do very much understand exactly where you're
coming from when you mention "Getty", which, as we all know, Apple is
restrictive on what you can download "outside" of the Camera.

For example, here's a movie being downloaded from the desktop to the iPad
but using a non-Apple app, in this case, VLC, which has a two-way WiFi
capability for large movie transfer.
http://i.cubeupload.com/e5razP.jpg

So, the truth of the matter is that if you eschew Apple apps, you can
transfer anything you want back and forth, within reason.

There are still huge limitations on file formats that will play on iOS and
on what apps can do, but the rule of staying away from Apple apps is the
first rule to use if you want any degree of freedom.

> Think of it as a digital camera emulation kinda outside the
> walled garden, provided for your "convenience".

Hi Paul,
I certainly understand that the "concept" is supposed to be "it just works"
but the reality is that it's like being in prison in that you can't do the
simplest of things with iOS, such as organize your desktop the way you want
to, or, more to the point, to transfer files back and forth from Windows to
the iPad and vice versa at will.

Of course, that's my goal - to be able to transfer files easily, where I've
gotten the following working to some degree...

1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files)
2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out)

5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop)

6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc. work ok)

> The model is still consistent with the Apple way of doing things.
> When you buy Apple, you buy the whole package.

I realize, and I've said many times on the iOS newsgroups that the Apple
way is to "just give up" whenever you want to do something that Apple
marketing didn't already script for the user.

But I'm not that type. I don't just give up when Windows tries to update
me, just as I don't just give up whenever Apple tries to restrict me.

What's funny is that there is a definite hierarchy (IMHO) in the tendency
to just give up, where the iOS users just give up so often that they don't
even realize they give up every day all day and where the Linux users are
on the other end of the spectrum where they never give up, and the Windows
users are somewhere in between. :)

> If the iPad could be rooted, maybe it could be different ?

Yes. I've done both rooting and jailbreaking. But I prefer not to.

> I don't keep track of how root-able little smartphones
> and shit are these days. What's the point ? If I need a
> hassle or a nuisance, I now have a pretty good idea where
> I can find it.

Android rooting is so simple it's not funny. You just download an app such
as Kingoroot and run it. There are other methods, but that's one of the
simplest.
https://www.kingoapp.com/

> My digital camera doesn't have issues. I get the files
> just fine. Mine isn't a Wifi model, but I bet there are
> more modern cameras where the Wifi works too.

USB is fine most of the time, but I have the iPad working over WiFi.
My biggest problem, so far, is smb since I don't understand it.

If I get this SMB URI out of an iPad, what can I do with it on Windows?]
smb://192.168.1.14
https://u.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg

> It used to be possible, to take iTunes installer apart with
> 7ZIP, into separate installers, and just install a portion of
> it. But I can't remember what protocols or options this exposes.
> Maybe you can look this up somewhere ?

Oh, trust me on this that I'm a very old hand with that iTunes abomination,
where I've watched every file it puts and where it puts it. It's just too
much to deal with, since iTunes is an abomination anyway, even if you do
manage to get most of the crap it installs to behave.

Worse, it doesn't even work in the real world, so, when I dual boot, I've
gotten nowwhere (and please don't suggest Wine). I'm too old and hence too
experienced to deal with either iTunes or Wine anymore. :)
Tunes however because of the missing component."

> https://support.imazing.com/hc/en-us/articles/234999528-iMazing-does-not-recognise-my-device-Windows-
>
> Which leads us here. Just an example of the kinda stuff to look for.
>
> https://imazing.com/

First off, I haven't had to install /anything/ on Windows or Linux, which
is how it should be, and which is the goal, since that has the most
portability when it uses native Windows/Linux tools.

Nonetheless, since you bothered to find this iMazing App, I'll do a quick
review, but I already know it's crap because I'm too experienced not to
know it's not going to need all the crapware that iTunes add. Just wait and
see....

BTW, some of the file-transfer apps that do what iTunes does did NOT need
to install all the Apple crapware, such as the /older/ versions of
SharePod, which I still use all the time on my iPods.

However, I'm sure, just by looking at the webpage for the program you
found, that it's going to install all sorts of Apple-mandated bloatware ...
but let's see.

Remember, the goal is to work in the real world, and without any software
on the desktop, so this iMazing app is just a better version of the iTunes
abomination, most likely ... but ... let's check it out anyway.

First off, just as a check, it's not an iOS app:
http://i.cubeupload.com/4dJirT.jpg

So it won't work in the real world because it's a Windows/Mac app:
https://imazing.com/download/windows

And it will almost assuredly add unwanted services and other bloatware just
as the iTunes abomination does.

Nonetheless that it won't work in the real world, since you went to the
trouble to find iMazing, and since I know, from experience, that it won't
work in the real world, I figured I'd give you more data about that by
installing it, at least on Windows, if not on Linux.

Here's my installation log, which I write for all installers:
The iMazing 2.4.7.0 Windows executable download is 87.5MB.
It wants to go in C:\Program Files\DigiDNA\iMazing
I put it in C:\app\hardware\ios\imazing (122MB)

Just like with the iTunes abomination, the iMazing software downloads the
following dependencies:
Apple Application Support (32bit & 64 bit)
Apple Mobile Device Support 64 bit)
Apple Bonjour 64 bit
http://i.cubeupload.com/vfwHUW.jpg

Notice, just like the iTunes abomination, most of the software doesn't go
where you told it to go. For example, the Bonjour crapware didn't go where
you asked it to go; instead the Bonjour crapware went into:
C:\Program Files\Bonjour & C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour

This is some of the crapware that was added by the iMazing installer:
Apple Mobile Device Support 11.0.5.14
AppleApplicationSupport 6.3
AppleApplicationSupport4 6.3
Bonjour 3.1.0.1

In the task manager, there's a crapware "Bonjour service" & a crapware
"Apple Mobile Device Service" under "MobileDeviceService".

The iMazing app recognizes the iPad, but apparently only via USB:
http://i.cubeupload.com/t4DZ0b.jpg

The initial view only shows the Apple-mandated apps on the iPad, and none
of the app-transfer apps that I have loaded yet (but that comes later).
http://i.cubeupload.com/7VORmh.jpg

Namely it shows, by default, Camera, Photos, Music, Videos, iBooks,
Messages, Notes, Contacts, Phone, Apps, File System, and New Shortcut.

In addition, the actions that seem available are Back Up, Restore a Backup,
Transfer to another Device, Manage Apps, Options, Check Warranty, Sleep,
Restart, Shut Down, Export Raw Data, Show Device Console, Forget, Reinstall
iOS, and Erase All Content.

When I clicked "New Shortcut", now more apps showed up, namely
FileExplorer, GarageBand, iMovie, Keynote, MFExplorer, Numbers, Pages, Topo
Reader, VLC< and WiFi HD.
http://i.cubeupload.com/30D3cf.jpg

So I added the non-Apple apps above to get this:
http://i.cubeupload.com/VpyM9u.jpg

Wanting to slide a movie into the private space of VLC, I clicked on VLC to
see this "copy to PC" and "copy to device" option for VLC's private space.
http://i.cubeupload.com/TpGPBJ.jpg

It asked me if I wanted to transfer a file or a folder, where I selected
"file" and then I selected a feature-length movie AVI file, where the first
limitation just popped up, which I expected but I didn't know what the
limitation would be (since they never make it clear at the start):
http://i.cubeupload.com/HP5Go7.jpg

The catch with iMazing, besides all the expected catches that it will never
work in the real world and that it requires bloatware on your computer and
bloatservices and that it doesn't behave itself etc., is that it doesn't
even work in the general sense for all users for any decent length of time.

The iMazing software is crippleware, limited to:
10 Messages
50 Photos
50 Music
5 Books
5 Notes
10 Contacts
5 Call History
1 Voicemail
3 Voice Memos
100 File Transfer
10 BackupExport

I deleted the iMazing crippleware after this quick test.

In summary, I am too experienced to believe there is any need for such
crippleware simply to transfer files back and forth from an iOS device to a
Windows or Linux desktop without having to install anything on the Windows
desktop.

However, while crippleware isn't for me, I do agree with you Paul, that if
someone hates the iTunes abomination, and if they're willing to purchase
this iMazing software and if they're not in the real world, then it should
work fine for copying files back and forth but only between Windows/Mac and
the iOS device.

[nospam]

In article <p8bv2m$14lv$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Moving forward, one of the helpful adults on the Windows newsgroup
> suggested the iMazing app, and he made the opinion that iOS isn't primitive
> so much as different ... to which I just responded ... as shown below so
> that others can benefit from the test of the iMazing app.

that was suggested *long* ago in *this* group.

once again, you ignore solutions solely so you can troll.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:140320181748533347%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> that was suggested *long* ago in *this* group.

Hi nospam,
I realize you're not a moron like Jolly Roger is, so I will bother to tell
you that this crippleware solution doesn't work in the real world.

So, the fact that it was "suggested" is simply more proof that /all/ your
suggestions only work in the narrow confines of the walled garden.

> once again, you ignore solutions solely so you can troll.

Once again you /prove/ that you consider facts a troll, since it's
abundantly clear that this "suggestion" doesn't even come close to working
in the real world, mainly because it's no better than the iTunes
abomination, which itself doesn't work in the real world.

That you consider fact a troll is because facts threaten your belief
system.

Meanwhile, we've moved forward getting File Explorer to work with Windows
shares just now on the Windows group where adults reside.

Here's a post I just made, where we're handling the issues that came up
with using File Explorer, all of which have been solved with the help of
the adults on the Windows newsgroup.

===== < cut here for response to mick posted just now in the Windows ng

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> Right now, for whatever reason, File Explorer won't connect to Windows, so,
> I may need to start over. Sigh.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/XLmc84.jpg
>
> There are no usable error messages so I don't even know how to
> troubleshoot.

Well, I solved that connectivity problem above simply by rebooting Windows
and rebooting the iPad, where I'm pretty sure it was Windows that screwed
up.

That's one thing about Windows networking that I've learned over the years
using FTP servers and FTP URIs in the network neighborhood. Windows is
flaky as hell. It works. Then it stops working. You reboot. And it works
again.

Flaky as hell is Windows networking. Sigh.

Anyway, once I rebooted Windows, File Explorer connected without me
changing anything on File Explorer and your suggestion of moving over a
picture from File Explorer to Windows shared folders worked perfectly.

I can't see into any of the "dollar" folders (e.g., C$, D$, etc.) but I can
see easily into the "Users" folder, so that's likely because it's the only
place anything is shared, by default.

So I created this directory on Windows and shared it as "share":
C:\data\ipad\share\
http://i.cubeupload.com/d5gzyV.jpg
Where the upload from iOS to that share worked fine:
http://i.cubeupload.com/3mJnSz.jpg

This share location should allow two-way sharing over WiFi, which is
perfect - but I still haven't seen the answer whether this is SMB or not
(did I miss it?).

This is the result on Windows - but I have to test if it works with Linux:
http://i.cubeupload.com/gp8laa.jpg

Do you know if Linux can handle these types of URIs?
\\DESKTOP\share

[Jolly Roger]

Yup. And he thinks nobody will notice, like the complete foolish troll he
is. It’s fucking pathetic.

[nospam]

In article <p8c67r$1h00$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> > that was suggested *long* ago in *this* group.
>
> Hi nospam,
> I realize you're not a moron like Jolly Roger is, so I will bother to tell
> you that this crippleware solution doesn't work in the real world.
>
> So, the fact that it was "suggested" is simply more proof that /all/ your
> suggestions only work in the narrow confines of the walled garden.

snipping to alter context yet again.

you just got done *praising* someone else for suggesting it, and since
you're caught in yet another lie, you go off on your usual rant.

In article <p8bv2m$14lv$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Moving forward, one of the helpful adults on the Windows newsgroup
> suggested the iMazing app, and he made the opinion that iOS isn't primitive
> so much as different ... to which I just responded ... as shown below so
> that others can benefit from the test of the iMazing app.

> Well, I solved that connectivity problem above simply by rebooting Windows
> and rebooting the iPad, where I'm pretty sure it was Windows that screwed
> up.

nope. it was definitely you.

> That's one thing about Windows networking that I've learned over the years
> using FTP servers and FTP URIs in the network neighborhood. Windows is
> flaky as hell. It works. Then it stops working. You reboot. And it works
> again.

user error.

> Do you know if Linux can handle these types of URIs?
> \\DESKTOP\share

that's not a url. it's a unc path. backslash is the file path separator
on dos/windows.

you're *well* over your head.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:140320181821089420%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> you just got done *praising* someone else for suggesting it, and since
> you're caught in yet another lie, you go off on your usual rant.

I realize you're like James Comey, nospam, just playing your silly games
because you have no facts to back up your silly semantic games.

Paul suggested the iTunes clone, which I told him from the beginning would
fail, and it did - but I thanked him nonetheless because he did a /lot/ of
research which I snipped out (which is in the original thread), even down
to the machinations of how to excise a lot of the bloatware from iTunes.

Mick, on the other hand, had suggested File Explorer, where I thanked him
since at first it seemed like another dead end, but File Explorer just
needed Windows networking to be set up.

Once Windows networking allowed shares, the SMB client on File Explorer
easily handles any sized file, from a 10GB movie to a 2MB picture, since it
copies over at fast speeds over the WiFi LAN using SMB protocol, which
works in the real world on both Linux and Windows.

>> Well, I solved that connectivity problem above simply by rebooting Windows
>> and rebooting the iPad, where I'm pretty sure it was Windows that screwed
>> up.
>
> nope. it was definitely you.

This is how I can tell you're not formally educated, because your
credibility is worthless to you. You just make this stuff up.

>
>> That's one thing about Windows networking that I've learned over the years
>> using FTP servers and FTP URIs in the network neighborhood. Windows is
>> flaky as hell. It works. Then it stops working. You reboot. And it works
>> again.
>
> user error.

Mick concurred that Windows networking is flaky, and it's not user error,
but you can play your silly semantic games.

Notice though, that only on the iOS newsgroup, if you say something bad
about an operating system, do the users consider it a troll.

On the iOS newsgroups, the moment you say any truth, it's considered a
troll, which is the oddest thing about iOS users. They're such babies
because their entire belief system is fabricated by Apple Marketing so it
is threatened by mere facts.

> that's not a url. it's a unc path. backslash is the file path separator
> on dos/windows.

Again, you play your semantic games where you didn't even notice that I
wrote it as a "URI" (not URL).

> you're *well* over your head.

Hehhehheh ... except that I already have done what none of you can
accomplish, based on your own suggestions, which is networking working in
the real world (all you can do is suggest programs that only work inside
the prison of the walled garden).

1. USB (works seamlessly both ways for Windows, only one way for Linux)
2. FTP server (works seamlessly both ways for both Windows & Linux)
3. HTTP server (works seamlessly both ways for both Windows & Linux)
4. SMB server (probably works - I'm new to smb:// URIs)
5. Bluetooth (this would work but I don't have BT or WiFi on my desktop)
6. SMB client (e.g., File Explorer, works seamlessly both ways - fast too!)
7. WiFi server (e.g., VLC, but this is only an app-specific solution)
8. Apple-services (e.g., iMazing - fails miserably just as iTunes does)

[nospam]

In article <p8clqs$5lo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> Mick concurred that Windows networking is flaky,

it's not flaky.

> and it's not user error,

it is.

> > that's not a url. it's a unc path. backslash is the file path separator
> > on dos/windows.
>
> Again, you play your semantic games where you didn't even notice that I
> wrote it as a "URI" (not URL).

it doesn't matter what you wrote. it's not a uri either.

> > you're *well* over your head.

even more than i originally thought.

> Hehhehheh ... except that I already have done what none of you can
> accomplish,

not without a shitload of effort and absurdly convoluted inefficient
solutions that don't always work.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

It was Autumn Nissen who was publicly asking how better to mask his flooding.

You're clueless! Autumn Nissen can not help but grasp Vennie Bowden knows he is just lying. Can emoticons be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the endless babbling of "advocates" and basement-dwelling ultra-cranks. Many people continue responding to Autumn Nissen. To be honest, I can't criticize Vennie Bowden for being pissed but I can't fathom why he writes here at all. Vennie Bowden is better suited to conversations as experienced in a non-trolling group and support newsgroups simply bother him too much. Already moved on from that. You are too slow! He is plainly trolling, he got scared and he's doing the predictable pranks taught in https://goo.gl/cc6Noz as he aims to hang on to his pride... but it backfired.

-
What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
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http://www.5z8.info/warez_w2t4ge_girlsgonewildpart1.wmv
http://bit.ly/2oNYRgv
Jonas Eklundh

[Steven Petruzzellis]

My uptime is almost seventy-nine days and I will now be called a liar by Vennie Bowden, Realtor. Just idiotic trolling. And I am replying to that trolling. THAT is what the "Vennie Bowden, Realtor circus" is. One guy reported Vennie Bowden, Realtor years ago. As expected, it did zilch to slow the ninny. Now that nobody is responding to Vennie Bowden, Realtor, he's making it sound like he's proved he knows Red Hat -- when in fact, people are just sick of his shit.

--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"

Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> not without a shitload of effort and absurdly convoluted inefficient
> solutions that don't always work.

Hi nospam,

You iOS babies are useless because you don't know anything when the
question involves the real world. All you know is the walled garden.

The /only/ thing you know is what Apple Marketing told you, which is why
your entire belief system is built upon a house of cards that can't
possibly work in the real world.

Meanwhile, speaking of doing things easily, when I booted up Ubuntu 17.10
this morning with the iPad plugged in via USB, I noticed that it worked
better than I had originally stated.

I'm not sure why the Documents hierarchy didn't show up before, but it
shows up now (perhaps because I booted with it connected?).

This is the camera hierarchy of the iOS device mounted on Ubuntu 17.10:
http://i.cubeupload.com/7Ss8C4.jpg

This is the Documents hierarchy of the private space of the good apps:
http://i.cubeupload.com/TpA8nX.jpg

Remember, the real world includes desktops with zero additional software on
them, and certainly not Apple software, none of which even works in the
real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fgtkts...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> that was suggested *long* ago in *this* group.
>>
>> once again, you ignore solutions solely so you can troll.
>
> Yup. And he thinks nobody will notice, like the complete foolish troll he

> is. It┬ fucking pathetic.

Hi Jolly Roger,

What I find childish about you babies on the iOS newsgroup is that every
other os-related newsgroup (e.g., windows, android, & linux) contains
adults who don't hurl hateful vitriol the moment you say a truth about
their operating system.

It's only on the iOS newsgroups that the truth is considered a troll.

For example, I've been able to easily transfer files from Linux to iOS over
WiFi using the SMB server inside of the freeware WiFi HD program using the
smbclient inside of Linux.
https://cubeupload.com/im/CiV2ox.jpg

Tell me, Jolly Roger & nospam, how do you accomplish /that/ with your
vaunted Apple solutions?

What's that?
You can't?

Really?
Why not?

Oh... I see.
I'm so sorry for you...

Your vaunted solution doesn't actually work in the real world.

[nospam]

In article <p8ellb$1g37$3...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:


> Tell me, Jolly Roger & nospam, how do you accomplish /that/ with your
> vaunted Apple solutions?

you've been told countless times. you ignore the answers.

[Uultred ragnusen]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> you've been told countless times. you ignore the answers.

Hi nospam,

I realize you're different than Jolly Roger and the rest of the childish
iOS gullibles because they don't have the adult comprehensive capability to
realize that nothing you suggest actually works in the real world - but you
- you're different.

*You /know/ that none of your suggested solutions work in the real world.*

Knowing that you know that, everything you write isn't for me, it's for the
iOS gullibles (such as Jolly Roger) which is why you write that which is
patently false.

What's humorous about those gullible iOS users is that they have no
comprehension that /all/ your solutions fail miserably in the real world.

Meanwhile, the adults on the Windows & Linux newsgroups have seamless file
transfer over WiFi with iOS without putting /any/ software on the desktop!

All that is needed is freeware on the iPad, such as WiFi HD:
http://i.cubeupload.com/CiV2ox.jpg
Or RManager:
http://i.cubeupload.com/kkcpp6.jpg
Or FileExplorer:
https://cubeupload.com/im/H6ztFQ.jpg
etc.

You see, we adults on the Windows and Linux newsgroups have /plenty/ of
solutions which actually work in the real world, where all you and Jolly
Roger and the other iOS users can do is stammer that the only solution that
you know of works only inside the narrow confines of the walled garden.

[nospam]

In article <p8emur$36i$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Uultred ragnusen

<ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

>
> Meanwhile, the adults on the Windows & Linux newsgroups have seamless file
> transfer over WiFi with iOS without putting /any/ software on the desktop!

myself and others told you exactly how to do that, with your fucked up
restrictions.

> All that is needed is freeware on the iPad

nope.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-15, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:fgtkts...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> that was suggested *long* ago in *this* group.
>>>
>>> once again, you ignore solutions solely so you can troll.
>>
>> Yup. And he thinks nobody will notice, like the complete foolish troll he

>> is. It¢s fucking pathetic.

>
> For example, I've been able to easily transfer files from Linux to iOS over
> WiFi using the SMB server inside of the freeware WiFi HD program using the
> smbclient inside of Linux.

The hilarious thing is it took you FOUR FUCKING DAYS to figure out how
to do move a photo from point A to point B, which is something we've
been doing with ease for YEARS and YEARS with iOS. And you're actually
PROUD of it... LOL! Pure fucking COMEDY!! : D

> Tell me, Jolly Roger & nospam, how do you accomplish /that/ with your
> vaunted Apple solutions?

Typically I don't have to do *any* of that, since the moment I take a
photo, it's *automatically* transferred to my other Apple devices
without my lifting a single finger. : D I don't use Linux as a desktop
OS. I'm paid well to architect and write software for Linux servers, but
at home I have way better things to do than tweak Linux systems to get
them to do what Apple kit does automatically without any interaction.

> What's that?
> You can't?

I can but have no need to, since my photos automatically appear wherever
I need them without me lifting a finger. : )

> Really?
> Why not?

Because Linux sucks as a general desktop operating system, which is why
you have to resort to installing file transfer apps or FTP servers on
your fucking *mobile* devices and using web browsers just to transfer
files, which is why I don't bother with it for anything but servers. : )

> Oh... I see.
> I'm so sorry for you...

You're sorry alright...a sorry sack of shit idiot troll who bumbles
around for FOUR FUCKING DAYS trying to figure out how to get a photo
from point A to point B, which most iOS users do with EASE all day every
day. : D

> Your vaunted solution doesn't actually work in the real world.

I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.

[Uultred ragnusen]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> myself and others told you exactly how to do that, with your fucked up
> restrictions

What's humorous about you iOS children is that on the Windows, Android, and
Linux newsgroups are adults who don't feel they must constantly fabricate
purely fictional imaginary iOS content, as you do, oh so secretly, since
you'll never actually state the content since it's imaginary, just because
someone states a fact they don't like.

Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo

and

Why do the Apple Apologists deny facts & habitually fabricate imaginary content?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/ZGXvivFuswE

[Uultred ragnusen]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
> fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
> in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.

What's odd about you iOS children is your posts ruin what is a simple
question and answer thread.

On the Windows, Android, and Linux newsgroups, the same question was asked
where everyone acted like an adult, with helpful well meaning technical
advice.

It's only on the iOS newsgroup, which is basically filled with childish
Apple Apologists, that you ask a question and morons like Jolly Roger and
abject liars like nospam ruin the thread with their childishly useless
unrelated emotional drivel.

That you, Jolly Roger, always respond to facts with hateful vitriol, is
indicative of the threat that facts are to your entire belief system.

Meanwhile, with the help from adults on the other newsgroups, this is easy
for everyone to do, in the real world...(where your solutions fail every
time).
https://u.cubeupload.com/TpA8nX.jpg

[nospam]

In article <p8enop$1mk3$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Uultred ragnusen

<ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

>
> > myself and others told you exactly how to do that, with your fucked up
> > restrictions
>
> What's humorous about you iOS children is that on the Windows, Android, and
> Linux newsgroups are adults who don't feel they must constantly fabricate
> purely fictional imaginary iOS content, as you do, oh so secretly, since
> you'll never actually state the content since it's imaginary, just because
> someone states a fact they don't like.

what's truly fucked up is what you're calling fabricated is similar or
even identical to what you claim the windows, android and linux
newsgroups suggested.

once again, you're caught in another lie.

[Uultred ragnusen]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> what's truly fucked up is what you're calling fabricated is similar or
> even identical to what you claim the windows, android and linux
> newsgroups suggested.

And yet, the adults on the Windows & Linux newsgroups suggested actual
helpful solutions that actually worked in the real world!

Fancy that.

You iOS children have no solution that works outside the prison of the
walled garden.

That truth scares the wits out of you, because it points out that your
entire belief system is built upon an imaginary house of cards provided by
Apple Marketing herself.

[nospam]

In article <p8eoeg$1omg$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Uultred ragnusen

<ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

>
> > what's truly fucked up is what you're calling fabricated is similar or
> > even identical to what you claim the windows, android and linux
> > newsgroups suggested.
>
> And yet, the adults on the Windows & Linux newsgroups suggested actual
> helpful solutions that actually worked in the real world!

so did the adults on the ios groups, but you ignored it so you could
troll.

[Jolly Roger]

Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
>> fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
>> in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.
>
> What's odd about you iOS children is your posts ruin what is a simple
> question and answer thread.

Awww, the poor man-baby troll can’t stand it when his obvious trolls fall
apart due to his own raging stupidity... too bad, so sad. : D

[Jolly Roger]

So much fail...

[dorayme]

In article <150320181710068602%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> myself and others told you exactly how to do that

A reflexive pronoun is usually the object of a sentence. This more of
this sad sack's idiolecting ways?

--
dorayme

[dorayme]

In article <fh05ta...@mid.individual.net>,

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
> fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
> in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.

What a beautiful example of a human being you are! You are a
particularly good argument for why people should not have children,
and why humans are, on balance, a bad proposition for the universe.

--
dorayme

[dorayme]

In article <150320181729258124%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

Adults, my arse! You are no more adult than a baby skunk.

--
dorayme

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-15, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fh05ta...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
>> fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
>> in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.
>
> What a

Shut up, Dorothy. Nobody cares.

You two ancient idiots should get married. You're a perfect fit for each
other.

[B...@onramp.net]

Then why do you constantly nym shift in order to come here?
Stay with the newsgroups that want you there.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article
<news:do_ray_me-E07A1...@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com>, dorayme
wrote:

> Adults, my arse! You are no more adult than a baby skunk.

Hi dorayme,

The difference is astounding between asking any question on iOS newsgroups,
which are filled with little children, and asking that same question on the
Android, Linux, and Windows newsgroups.

Just look at the responses to this same question in those newsgroups, and
you'll see that the iOS newsgroup can't handle any facts, and, is filled
with little children like Jolly Roger whose hate-filled vitriol matches the
veracity of facts he hates.

Meanwhile, the adults on this newsgroup, few and far between as they are,
live in the real world where, for example, it takes weeks of acclimation
just to begin that climb up Mount Everest that Jolly Roger could do in his
sleep.

To wit, here are the iOS apps that made the first cut in the real world:
http://i.cubeupload.com/tRtGs0.jpg

MyFile Explorer, by GLOBILE COMPUTER BUSINESS SERVICES
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-file-explorer/id571929068?mt=8
WiFi HD, by Savy Soda

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-hd-free-wireless-smb-usb-hard-disk-drive-nfs-network/id311170976?mt=8
Simple Transfer - Photo+Video, by Rambax, LLC

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/simple-transfer-photo-video/id420821506?mt=8
Air Transfer, by Darinsoft

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/air-transfer-file-transfer-from-to-pc-thru-wifi/id521595136?mt=8
MarkDisk, by Shumin Sun
https://itunes.apple.com/US/app/id1035317905?mt=8
WiFi photo, by Voxeloid Kft.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-photo-transfer/id380326191?mt=8
FileExplorer, by Skyjos Co., Ltd.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fileexplorer-file-manager/id510282524?mt=8
RManager, by Evolution Games LLP
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rmanager/id981869721?mt=8
SMBManager, by LTD DevelSoftware
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577?mt=8

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article
<news:do_ray_me-45BD5...@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com>, dorayme

wrote:

>> myself and others told you exactly how to do that
>
> A reflexive pronoun is usually the object of a sentence. This more of
> this sad sack's idiolecting ways?

Hi dorayme,

It's interesting you picked up on this as I was initially perplexed when
nospam first wrote it, but I wasn't sure of the grammatical correctness
myself - so I let sleeping dogs lie.

Nonetheless, except in the case when some moron is trying to tell me I'm
stupid but they can't even do so with a grammatically correct sentence, we
can assume this Usenet medium is off the cuff, so, errors will crop in
inevitably, as these aren't vetted theses.

I generally let the poor grammar in others slide, taking note only if
they're attempting to insult when they can't even do so with a completely
formed sentence (which I always find humorous).

[Uultred ragnusen]

<B...@Onramp.net> wrote:

> Then why do you constantly nym shift in order to come here?
> Stay with the newsgroups that want you there.

Hi BK@OnRamp,

I've given you this adult lecture before - but you just can't seem to
comprehend adult topics.

Just because you feel all Black people are hoodlums, and that all Jews are
greedy crooks, and that all Hispanics are on the dole, and that all Germans
are racist, and that all Native Americans are drunkards, etc., doesn't mean
that it's true.

I've explained privacy so many times that it's amazing that only you and
Jolly Roger are unable to comprehend that not all people who wear hats are
bald, or that not all people who wear sunglasses are cops or that not all
women who wear dresses are sluts, etc.

That /you/ feel such childish things is your problem, but the very fact
that you bring it up means that it bothers you that there are adults who
exist outside this iOS newsgroup.

Having explained this to you for the umpteenth time, the good news is that
we've tested the following solutions, all of which work in the real world.
NO software should ever be required on the desktop:
1. USB (seamless both ways on Windows, seamless one way on Linux)
2. iOS FTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
3. iOS HTTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
4. iOS Bluetooth (this would work but I don't have BT or WiFi on my
desktop)
5. iOS SMB server (probably works - need to explore smb:// URIs on
Win/Linux)
6. iOS SMB client (works both ways on Windows - but it requires Samba on
Linux)
7. iOS App server (works both ways, e.g., VLC, perhaps it's just WebDAV
http)

Unfortunately, these solutions do not work in the real world:
8. Apple-services (e.g., iMazing, can't possibly work in the real world)
9. Apple-bloatware (e.g., iTunes, can't possibly work in the real world)

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:150320181729258124%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> so did the adults on the ios groups, but you ignored it so you could
> troll.

Hi nospam,

I realize you childish iOS users are inured to facts, but we adults happen
to use facts in our discussions.

To wit...

How again does your vaunted solution work with Linux or with Windows nary a
shred of Apple software on it (which, by the way, is the real world).

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh07pa...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Awww, the poor man-baby troll can¢t stand it when his obvious trolls fall
> apart due to his own raging stupidity... too bad, so sad. : D

Thanks Jolly Roger for aptly proving my point by being the poster child
example of how this iOS newsgroup is filled to the brim with children.

[nospam]

In article <p8fi5l$rha$4...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> How again does your vaunted solution work with Linux or with Windows nary a
> shred of Apple software on it

quite well, as you've been repeatedly told.

any modern system (mac/win/unix/other) to which the user has access
permissions will work, using industry standard protocols, without any
additional software from apple or anyone else.

> (which, by the way, is the real world).

nope. the real world includes apple software, and itunes is among the
most popular third party app on windows. however, it's not required.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320180115396622%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> How again does your vaunted solution work with Linux or with Windows nary a
>> shred of Apple software on it
>
> quite well, as you've been repeatedly told.

hehhehheh ... I said "how", not how well.

The fact you can never answer the /simplest/ of questions merely means your
entire belief system is a fabrication of imaginary iOS functionality.

> any modern system (mac/win/unix/other) to which the user has access
> permissions will work, using industry standard protocols, without any
> additional software from apple or anyone else.

As I already stated, the following work fine in the real world:

1. USB (seamless both ways on Windows, seamless one way on Linux)
2. iOS FTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
3. iOS HTTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)

4. iOS Bluetooth (I don't have BT or WiFi on my desktop)
5. iOS SMB server (worked with Linux smbclient, untested on Windows)
6. iOS SMB client (works both ways on Windows; works with Samba on Linux)

The following do not work in the real world:
a. iTunes, iMazing, and anything requiring Apple software

>> (which, by the way, is the real world).
>
> nope. the real world includes apple software, and itunes is among the
> most popular third party app on windows. however, it's not required.

The real world is not just the prison enshrouding the walled garden.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

It was Bill Cunningham who flooded chrisv's site millions of times and refused to admit it.

My first statement stands literal and correct.

How is random neuron firings tied to love of Bash in any way going to lead to reasoned group dialog?

For the record, taking effort educating yourself is never a waste. Asserting you know everything and taking it on yourself to 'prove' people that it's true, as Bill Cunningham tries to do? *That* is a waste. It was Bill Cunningham who forged me and admitted to having done so.

--
This Trick Gets Women Hot For You!
http://tinyurl.com/kmqe66h
http://www.5z8.info/killallimmigrants_j6f7mm_gruesome-gunshot-wounds
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4
Jonas Eklundh Communication

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh09vj...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

>>
>>> I never offered a solution in this thread because I enjoyed watching you
>>> fumble around like an idiot for FOUR DAYS doing things most iOS users do
>>> in their fucking sleep. You're pathetic, old man.
>>
>> What a
>
> Shut up, Dorothy. Nobody cares.
>
> You two ancient idiots should get married. You're a perfect fit for each
> other.

[Jolly Roger]

You two sound just alike, which is fitting considering you're so fucking
old when you were kids rainbows were still black & white. Seriously, get
married and elope. You two ancient dipshit trolls are *perfect* for each
other! And while you write your wedding vows, the rest of us will
continue to transfer our photos with ease all day every day laughing at
the fact that it takes you a pitiful FOUR fucking DAYS to figure out how
to get a photo from point A to point B! Fucking buffoon trolls. : D

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is a nearly 60 year old guy who is single, broke and has no skills. He blames Bit Twister for his loss of his wife and girlfriend. Steven is jealous of what Bit Twister has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.

Of his online life Steven says

I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.

Some examples where Steven has been booted

X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4

Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l

FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn

AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman

Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE

Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Bit Twister

Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.

His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her



Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that has ever been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20161019062351/http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net/
https://goo.gl/DMno6J

Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul
http://web.archive.org/web/20161202192456/http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820

He also bragged he was working on an update and showed it here https://vid.me/u6RK

The business still failed.

He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.

https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879


This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Bit Twister.


Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced because his wife caught him screwing another woman.

Bit Twister is married and by all appearances happily so.
He never complains about his wife in COLA.


Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.

Bit Twister does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.


Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself

Bit Twister has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public.
No reason to think they are not a happy family.


Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date.

Bit Twister has his own business doing technical work and also teaches.
Bit Twister offers a true contribution to society.
Teachers are truly under appreciated.

--
Do not click this link!!!
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/6m_7Z7rQ6Hg
Jonas Eklundh

[B...@onramp.net]

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 04:45:40 +0000 (UTC), Uultred ragnusen
<ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

><B...@Onramp.net> wrote:
>
>> Then why do you constantly nym shift in order to come here?
>> Stay with the newsgroups that want you there.
>
>Hi BK@OnRamp,
>
>I've given you this adult lecture before - but you just can't seem to
>comprehend adult topics.

It is probable that I was an adult before you and about more topics
than you can conceive.

>
>Just because you feel all Black people are hoodlums, and that all Jews are
>greedy crooks, and that all Hispanics are on the dole, and that all Germans
>are racist, and that all Native Americans are drunkards, etc., doesn't mean
>that it's true.

I feel none of the above only that you're a lost person with no
concept of how you're perceived.

>
>I've explained privacy so many times that it's amazing that only you and
>Jolly Roger are unable to comprehend that not all people who wear hats are
>bald, or that not all people who wear sunglasses are cops or that not all
>women who wear dresses are sluts, etc.

But we aren't discussing any of that...just you and what an
unconvincing asshole you are.

>That /you/ feel such childish things is your problem, but the very fact
>that you bring it up means that it bothers you that there are adults who
>exist outside this iOS newsgroup.

I bring your going away so that the adults on this newsgroup should
not have to consistently kill file your nyms.

<clip crap>

>8. Apple-services (e.g., iMazing, can't possibly work in the real world)
>9. Apple-bloatware (e.g., iTunes, can't possibly work in the real world)

The fact is that Apple does rather well in the real world with what
they do and their customers are very happy with that.

Again.....PLONK. Awaiting your next nym.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:7grnadlskoqi5stq1...@4ax.com>, B...@Onramp.net
wrote:

> It is probable that I was an adult before you and about more topics
> than you can conceive.

You don't act like an adult because you're intensely afraid of facts.

> I feel none of the above only that you're a lost person with no
> concept of how you're perceived.

You deprecate anyone who wants privacy - merely because they want privacy.

> But we aren't discussing any of that...just you and what an
> unconvincing asshole you are.

Notice how you childishly try to insult, simply because I proved a fact.

> I bring your going away so that the adults on this newsgroup should
> not have to consistently kill file your nyms.

Name an adult on this newsgroup. I can name a few, but none of the
half-dozen Apple Apologists are worthy of that moniker.

> The fact is that Apple does rather well in the real world with what
> they do and their customers are very happy with that.

The fact that you actually believe Apple works "rather well" on Windows
machines sans any Apple software and on Linux machines is just further
proof that all you half dozen child-like Apple Apologists live in an
entirely fictional wholly fabricated world of imaginary iOS functionality.

> Again.....PLONK. Awaiting your next nym.

Hehhehheh ... always a pleasure to see exactly how the child-like Apple
Apologists respond to facts.

Facts threaten the entire imaginary underpinnings of your belief system.

For example, this screenshot taken just now will scare you to death:
http://i.cubeupload.com/7irVKa.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh23f2...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> You two sound just alike, which is fitting considering you're so fucking
> old when you were kids rainbows were still black & white.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Thank you for proving my point that the child-like Apple Apologists hate
facts, such that some of them (you, for example), respond to facts with
hateful vitriol.

> Seriously, get married and elope. You two ancient dipshit trolls are
> *perfect* for each other!

What's amazing is that, in your child-like mind, you think you're actually
insulting us, which is yet another one of the imaginary houses of cards
that underlie all of your belief systems.

> And while you write your wedding vows, the rest of us will
> continue to transfer our photos with ease all day every day laughing at
> the fact that it takes you a pitiful FOUR fucking DAYS to figure out how
> to get a photo from point A to point B! Fucking buffoon trolls.

Not only is it extremely telling that you "just give up" when confronted
with file-transfer in the real world, but what's also revealing is that you
confuse doing a review of a dozen products with your skill set in using
what Apple gave you to work inside the prison of the walled garden.

Assuming you actually /believe/ what you write, your own personal
assessment of your 'skill' set is perfect for the lower end of the
Dunning-Kruger scale.

You literally embody that lower end, since you actually probably believe
what you just wrote, which is that you feel your skill set is greater than,
say, mine - when you can't even fathom what it is we've accomplished
without you.

Nonetheless, let's get back on topic, where today I tested SMB between the
iOS device and both Linux and Windows, where it worked well once I started
getting used to the SMB syntax on both platforms.

For example, I used the iOS freeware WiFi HD for an SMB server share at:
smb://f192.168.1.7/Documents

On Linux, I used smbclient to "put" a couple of text files onto that share:
http://i.cubeupload.com/TaDDnM.jpg

On Windows, I used the "net use" command to "mount" that share on Windows:
net use X: \\192.168.1.7\Documents
http://i.cubeupload.com/7irVKa.jpg

I guess since there are so many methods which are just working, I wonder if
you self-assess file-transfer experts know which is better overall, in the
long term, FTP, HTTP, or SMB in the real world.

I suspect HTTP is the worst in the real world, so, that only leaves
"mounting" by FTP or SMB in the real world.

As I know Windows FTP "mounting" to be flaky in the real world (at least on
Windows it is), I suspect maybe SMB is better in the real world?

Do folks have experience with FTP versus SMB "mounting" of file systems?
Overall, which is better to spend energy on getting to work seamlessly?

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fh23f2...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> And while you write your wedding vows, the rest of us will
>> continue to transfer our photos with ease all day every day laughing at
>> the fact that it takes you a pitiful FOUR fucking DAYS to figure out how
>> to get a photo from point A to point B! Fucking buffoon trolls.
>

> Nonetheless, let's get back on topic, where today I tested SMB between the
> iOS device and both Linux and Windows, where it worked well once I started
> getting used to the SMB syntax on both platforms.

Your dumb ass posted this question on March 9th, SEVEN fucking DAYS ago,
and here you are STILL bumbling around trying to figure out the best way
to get a photo from point A to point B. And you are actually PROUD of
your "accomplishment"! You claim to be smarter than everyone else here,
which is a fucking joke! LOL! Pure fucking comedy! : D

> Do folks have experience with FTP versus SMB "mounting" of file systems?

Plenty. And we've been doing it for literal decades. It's a "Windows
world", after all. You, on the other hand, are in WAY over your ignorant
trollish Apple-hating dingbat head - and rightfully so. We love watching
you claim superiority for taking DAYS to figure out how to do what most
iOS users do with zero effort! : D

> Overall, which is better to spend energy on getting to work seamlessly?

Nah. Stay dumb, idiot troll. You provide great entertainment to those of
us who run circles around you on a daily basis! You're a pitiful failure
of a human being. BE PROUD! : D

[nospam]

In article <p8h2d4$1h0j$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Nonetheless, let's get back on topic, where today I tested SMB between the
> iOS device and both Linux and Windows, where it worked well once I started
> getting used to the SMB syntax on both platforms.

as usual, you're doing it the hard way.

no syntax is needed to transfer content, and smb is one of the worst
choices, which explains why you selected it.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
>

> For example, this screenshot taken just now will scare you to death:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/7irVKa.jpg

"Look kids, it took me SEVEN DAYS to resort to running a *server* on my
*mobile* device just to get a photo from point A to point B! I'm like
soooooo SMART!!" ...LOL!!! : D

[nospam]

In article <fh2hdj...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> > For example, this screenshot taken just now will scare you to death:
> > http://i.cubeupload.com/7irVKa.jpg
>
> "Look kids, it took me SEVEN DAYS to resort to running a *server* on my
> *mobile* device just to get a photo from point A to point B! I'm like
> soooooo SMART!!" ...LOL!!! : D

or just enable windows file sharing (no need to install anything) and
send files with a tap from any device, mobile, laptop or desktop, but
that's too easy to be considered.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320181440150401%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> no syntax is needed to transfer content, and smb is one of the worst
> choices, which explains why you selected it.

If you're so smart, then I ask if you can answer this rather basic iOS
question.

http://i.cubeupload.com/4K2uUZ.jpg

From Linux, I slid a mainstream movie into MFExplorer, expecting to have to
subsequently move it from MFExplorer's private space into VLC's private
space on the iOS device.

When I opened up VLC on the iPad, the movie was already there inside of
VLC.

That was a pleasant surprise.

Normally, VLC doesn't see movies inside the private space of the Apple
Videos app, or the Apple DCIM Camera Photos app. But VLC saw this file,
which wasn't slid directly into VLC's private space like I normally do.

Do you know more about how VLC "just knew" that the huge movie file was
slid from Linux into the MFExplorer space such that the movie just
seamlessly shows up "inside" of VLC?

Or do you also know nothing but vitriol like Jolly Roger is filled with?
http://i.cubeupload.com/4K2uUZ.jpg

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh2h9p...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Nah. Stay dumb, idiot troll. You provide great entertainment to those of
> us who run circles around you on a daily basis! You're a pitiful failure
> of a human being. BE PROUD! : D

With every post containing clear admissions of your ignorance, both you and
nospam prove you haven't a clue how to get files transferred seamlessly
between iOS and Android, Windows, and Linux devices, in the real world.

Meanwhile, for the tribal knowledge archives, here's a quick summary of the
apps which worked for file transfer in the real world, with sufficient
details for interested users to reproduce my success in the real world
doing what you, Jolly Roger, are incapable of doing, even after /years/ of
you claiming your imaginary iOS functionality that only exists inside your
head.

It's as if you claim that you can climb Mount Everest wearing your
Apple-branded sneakers, while you deprecate the professionals who take
months to do what you would claim to be able to do in your sleep.


These are the iOS apps that passed the initial screening tests:
http://i.cubeupload.com/tRtGs0.jpg

MyFile Explorer, by Globile Computer Business Services
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-file-explorer/id571929068?mt=8
http server on port 8080, ftp server on port 2121, Bluetooth ad-hoc
file-transfer
Copy a movie to MFExplorer and, seamlessly, VLC "sees" it & can play it.
Linux transfer doesn't give feedback; but it works.
Banner and full-page ads though, so only use it as a last resort.

WiFi HD, by Savy Soda
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-hd-free-wireless-smb-usb-hard-disk-drive-nfs-network/id311170976?mt=8

SMB server on the default port, HTTP server on port 80, FTP server on the
default port

Simple Transfer - Photo+Video, by Rambax, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/simple-transfer-photo-video/id420821506?mt=8

HTTP server on the default port
Reputedly can transfer files between iOS devices

Air Transfer, by Darinsoft
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/air-transfer-file-transfer-from-to-pc-thru-wifi/id521595136?mt=8

HTTP server on port 8080 by default
It says the file transfer is limited so it's probably useless crippleware.

MarkDisk, by Shumin Sun
https://itunes.apple.com/US/app/id1035317905?mt=8

HTTP server on port 9090 by default

WiFi photo, by Voxeloid Kft.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifi-photo-transfer/id380326191?mt=8

HTTP server on port 15555 by default

FileExplorer, by Skyjos Co., Ltd.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fileexplorer-file-manager/id510282524?mt=8

SMB client connects to one SMB server
Reputedly can transfer files between iOS devices

RManager, by Evolution Games LLP
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rmanager/id981869721?mt=8

FTP, SFTP server on the default ports, SMB client

SMBManager, by LTD DevelSoftware
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577?mt=8

HTTP server on port 80 by default, FTP server on port 21 by default
SMB client on the default port

To intelligent adults on this iOS newsgroup (if any exist), let us know
what file-transfer programs you use on iOS that work in the real world,
where the real world includes desktops sans any Apple software and Linux,
and Android devices.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh2h9p...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Your dumb ass posted this question on March 9th, SEVEN fucking DAYS ago,

While it's humorous that Jolly Roger considers himself a genius, as he
claims, in effect, that he could climb Mount Everest in a day wearing his
Apple-branded sneakers - so why does it take the professionals months to do
what he could do in his sleep - I have work to do, which is to find the
best way /that works in the real world/ for transferring /anything/ between
Android, Linux, and Windows, without installing /anything/ on the desktop.

To that end, I've tested the following which I report back for the benefit
of other users reading these threads in the future in the tribal knowledge
archives at http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad

For the tribal knowledge archives, these are the solutions that worked to
some degree where the goal is always to work on as many machines as
possible without installing /anything/ on the desktop.

1. USB (seamless both ways on Windows, seamless one way on Linux)
2. iOS FTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
3. iOS HTTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
4. iOS Bluetooth (I don't have BT or WiFi on my desktop)

5. iOS SMB server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux with Samba)
6. iOS SMB client (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux with Samba)

Proprietary methods (useless outside the walled garden):
7. Apple-services (e.g., iMazing, does not work in the real world)
8. Apple-software (e.g., iTunes, does not work in the real world)

If anyone here knows of another method /that works/ in the real world, just
let us know and I'll test it.

The real world includes Windows machines sans any additional software, and
Android & Linux machines, all working seamlessly together with iOS.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320181442449369%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> or just enable windows file sharing (no need to install anything) and
> send files with a tap from any device, mobile, laptop or desktop, but
> that's too easy to be considered.

You forget that /all/ your methods fail in the real world, where the real
world includes not only Linux, but Android, and Windows sans anything but
native software.

To your point though, at least on Windows, I already proved, long before
you mentioned it in this thread, that simply adding a password to the
Windows account and turning on file sharing enabled seamless file transfer
via the so-called SMB/CIFS protocol.

I know you love to play your silly semantic games, so I won't argue if you
call it something else, as you've repeatedly shown that you have no ideas
that work outside the walled garden (since I had SMB working well before
you mentioned Windows file sharing above).

So, in the end, you're no better than Jolly Roger who only knows of a
solution that works in the real world /after/ I tell it to you, which the
record in this thread /clearly/ verifies.

Nonetheless, I'm not into playing your silly semantic games, especially as
none of your solutions work on Linux sans any software added. Luckily,
adding Samba on Linux was a breeze, so Linux is working fine with SMB now
(except for mounting the shares as a removable disk drive - which I'm
working on over in the Linux newsgroup).

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fh2hdj...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> "Look kids, it took me SEVEN DAYS to resort to running a *server* on my
> *mobile* device just to get a photo from point A to point B! I'm like
> soooooo SMART!!" ...LOL!!! : D

It's interesting how your Dunning-Kruger low-end mind works, in that it's
as if you claim to be able to climb Mount Everest in sneakers in just one
day, sans bottled oxygen even - while you then say you're so smart because
professionals take months to prepare for, acclimate, and safely climb the
mountain.

All your capabilities exist only inside your head, where /none/ of them
stand the slightest chance of working in the real world.

And yet, in your Dunning-Kruger low-end mindset, you're the only one who
knows how to climb Mount Everest wearing only your Apple-branded sneakers.

[nospam]

In article <p8h799$1pcc$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> If anyone here knows of another method /that works/ in the real world, just
> let us know

they did

> and I'll test it.

you won't

[nospam]

In article <p8h7hp$jv5$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> It's interesting how your Dunning-Kruger low-end mind works,

projection

[nospam]

In article <p8h79b$1pcc$3...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> > or just enable windows file sharing (no need to install anything) and
> > send files with a tap from any device, mobile, laptop or desktop, but
> > that's too easy to be considered.
>
> You forget that /all/ your methods fail in the real world, where the real
> world includes not only Linux, but Android, and Windows sans anything but
> native software.

except that the method described above is *not* limited to the mac.

> To your point though, at least on Windows, I already proved, long before
> you mentioned it in this thread, that simply adding a password to the
> Windows account and turning on file sharing enabled seamless file transfer
> via the so-called SMB/CIFS protocol.

as usual, you ignore what people tell you and then claim that you
figured it out on your own.

i mentioned it long ago, except what you fail to grasp is that smb is
not seamless in the least, certainly not in the way you're doing it.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320181602457437%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> If anyone here knows of another method /that works/ in the real world, just
>> let us know
>
> they did

You constantly play your silly games of claiming capabilities that you
don't have, can't prove, and just make up.

In your child-like mind, you climb Mount Everest every day wearing only
Apple-branded sneakers.

At the same time, you deprecate anyone who would attempt to climb the
mountain wearing the types of gloves, boots, and parkas that are necessary
in the real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320181602467501%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

> i mentioned it long ago, except what you fail to grasp is that smb is
> not seamless in the least, certainly not in the way you're doing it.

You constantly play your silly games of claiming capabilities that not only
you don't have, but you can never prove a word you say because it's only
/after/ I tell you how that you even mention anything concrete, and even
then, /all/ your vaunted solutions fail miserably in the real world.

In your child-like mind, you climb Mount Everest every day wearing only
Apple-branded sneakers.

Hence, since you're in the low end of the DK scale of skills assessment,
you essentially deprecate the professionals who take months to plan the
route, build camps, acclimate, and climb the mountain wearing strong boots
and parkas and gloves that are necessary to actually perform the task in
the real world.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:160320181602457469%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote:

>> It's interesting how your Dunning-Kruger low-end mind works,
>
> projection

I doubt you have the adult comprehensive capability to realize that neither
you nor Jolly Roger proposed /anything/ and yet you both claim that you
could, in essence, climb Mount Everest in your Apple-branded sneakers.

Both of you provided zero facts, and yet, in essence, you both claim to be
able to climb Mount Everest in your Apple-branded sneakers.

There are two facts that put you both squarely on the low end of the DK
scale, where I doubt you even have the adult comprehensive skills to
understand that adult statement.

To wit ... all the two of you do is claim imaginary skills that you don't
possess.

[nospam]

In article <p8h8q5$1rui$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred

<ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In your child-like mind, you climb Mount Everest every day wearing only
> Apple-branded sneakers.

nope. i climb it like the natives did in prehistoric times. barefoot.

[Jolly Roger]

It's way too easy to be considered, because it is readily available
without installing anything at all and takes just a few seconds to do.
For his lame trolls to work, "Ragnusen" has to pretend options like that
don't exist. The pitiful thing is the rest of us know full well they
(and much better options) exist, because we use them frequently.
"Ragnusen" loves to pretend "iOS users" don't use any of the other
platforms, which is patently ridiculous, since as we all know, many iOS
users use all of the above platforms *daily*, and without these supposed
"problems" he loves to troll about, which take him many DAYS to
"overcome". He's a fucking idiot, pure and simple - and he's actually
PROUD of it. Meanwhile he constantly slings insults on the Apple news
groups, then cries foul when people her don't volunteer to help him with
his manufactured pitiful little "problems". Just pathetic. : )

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <p8h79b$1pcc$3...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
><ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > or just enable windows file sharing (no need to install anything) and
>> > send files with a tap from any device, mobile, laptop or desktop, but
>> > that's too easy to be considered.
>>
>> You forget that /all/ your methods fail in the real world, where the real
>> world includes not only Linux, but Android, and Windows sans anything but
>> native software.
>
> except that the method described above is *not* limited to the mac.

But he has to pretend it is, because: troll.

>> To your point though, at least on Windows, I already proved, long before
>> you mentioned it in this thread, that simply adding a password to the
>> Windows account and turning on file sharing enabled seamless file transfer
>> via the so-called SMB/CIFS protocol.
>
> as usual, you ignore what people tell you and then claim that you
> figured it out on your own.

And it takes him DAYS to figure it out! LOL! Fucking tool...

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fh2h9p...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Nah. Stay dumb, idiot troll. You provide great entertainment to those of
>> us who run circles around you on a daily basis! You're a pitiful failure
>> of a human being. BE PROUD! : D
>
> With every post containing clear admissions of your ignorance

The ignorant one here is you, who took SEVEN fucking DAYS to figure out
what the rest of us have known for YEARS, you fucking tool. : D

> To intelligent adults on this iOS newsgroup (if any exist), let us know
> what file-transfer programs you use

Nah. Stay dumb, clueless troll. Watching you proudly boast that it took
you fucking DAYS to figure out how to transfer a photo from point A to
point B is entertaining and shows the intelligent adults just how big of
an idiot troll you are! : D

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fh2h9p...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Your dumb ass posted this question on March 9th, SEVEN fucking DAYS ago,
>
> While it's humorous

It's fucking hilarious! You are actually PROUD of the fact that it took
you SEVEN DAYS to figure out how to get a photo from point A to point B
- something most iOS users do in their sleep! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

> If anyone here knows of another method /that works/ in the real world, just
> let us know and I'll test it.

Nah. Stay dumb, old troll.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-03-16, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fh2hdj...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> "Look kids, it took me SEVEN DAYS to resort to running a *server* on my
>> *mobile* device just to get a photo from point A to point B! I'm like
>> soooooo SMART!!" ...LOL!!! : D
>
> It's interesting

Nah, you're actually boring as fuck.