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marcodbeast

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Oct 12, 2008, 9:20:56 PM10/12/08
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"Ray" <R...@yaooo.net> wrote in message
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> Earlier this year, eight ACORN workers in the St. Louis area pleaded
> guilty to election fraud in connection with registrations for the 2006
> election. This week, ACORN submitted a batch of questionable voter
> registration cards in Kansas City.
>
> http://www.columbiatribune.com/2008/Oct/20081011News002.asp

Getting ready to justify the massive republican election tampering to
come? lol

ACORN's Response to McCain's Lies
http://tinyurl.com/3zyvqm


1. In order to help 1.3 million people register to vote, we hired more
than 13,000 registration assistance workers r. As with any business or
agency that operates at this scale, there are always some people who
want to get paid without really doing the job, or who aim to defraud
their employer. Any large department store will have some workers who
shoplift.

2. Any large voter registration operation will have a small percentage
of workers who turn in bogus registration forms, Their goal clearly is
not to cast a fraudulent vote. It is simply to defraud their employer,
ACORN, by getting a paycheck without earning it. ACORN is the victim of
this fraud - not the perpetrator.

3. In nearly every case that has been reported , it was ACORN that
discovered the bad forms, and called them to the attention of election
authorities, putting the forms in a package that identified them in
writing as suspicious, encouraging election officials to investigate,
and offering to help with prosecutions. We are required by law to turn
in all forms, but instead of just turning them in and figuring that it
is the responsibility of the board of elections to figure out which are
valid, we spend millions of dollars verifying that forms are valid, and
then separate out those that are suspicious.

4. This has nothing to do with "voter fraud" - nothing at all to do with
anyone trying to cast an extra vote. There has never been a single
reported instance in which bogus registration forms have led to anyone
voting improperly. To do that, they would have to show up at the polls,
prove their identity as all first-time registrants must, and risk jail.
The people who turned in these forms did so not because they wanted an
extra vote, but because they didn't care enough to make sure eligible
people got to vote at all.

5. When a department store calls the police to report a shoplifting
employee, no one says the department store is guilty of consumer fraud.
But for some reason, when ACORN turns voter registration workers over to
the authorities for filling out bogus forms, it gets accused of "voter
fraud." This is a classic case of blaming the victim; indeed, these
charges are outrageous, libelous, and often politically motivated.

6. Similar attacks were launched against ACORN and other voter
registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. The bogus charges were at
the heart of the U.S. Attorney-gate scandal that led to the resignations
of Karl Rove, Attorney General Ablerto Gonzales and other top Justice
Department Officials. It turned out that it was the charges that were
fraudulent, and that they were part of a systematic partisan agenda of
voter suppression. Republican US Attorneys David Iglesias (NM), Todd
Graves (MO), and John McKay (WA) all were fired primarily because they
refused to prosecute similar bogus charges of "voter fraud." Another US
Attorney, Bradley Schlozman, who did politicize prosecutions against
former ACORN canvassers, was forced to acknowledge under cross
examination by the Senate Judiciary Committee that ACORN was the victim
of fraud by its employees and ACORN had caught the employees and had
identified them to law enforcement.

7. The goals of the people orchestrating these attacks are to distract
ACORN from helping people vote and to justify massive voter suppression.
That's the real voter fraud; the noise about a small fraction of the
forms ACORN has turned in is meant to get the press and public take
their eyes off the real threat, while those hurling the charges are
stealing people's right to vote in broad daylight. They have already
tried to prevent Ohio from registering voters at its early voting sites.
In Michigan, they planned to use foreclosure notices to challenge
thousands of voters. And if this year is like past years, they are
preparing to use this so-called voter fraud to justify massive
challenges to voters in minority precincts on Election Day.


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Grand Poopa

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Oct 12, 2008, 11:09:24 PM10/12/08
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:20:56 -0500, marcodbeast wrote:

> "Ray" <R...@yaooo.net> wrote in message
> news:q925f41iqvg66bvn0...@4ax.com...
>> Earlier this year, eight ACORN workers in the St. Louis area pleaded
>> guilty to election fraud in connection with registrations for the 2006
>> election. This week, ACORN submitted a batch of questionable voter
>> registration cards in Kansas City.
>>
>> http://www.columbiatribune.com/2008/Oct/20081011News002.asp
>
> Getting ready to justify the massive republican election tampering to
> come? lol
>

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Gee whiz, I thot AOL dropped usenet access! The never ending September
continues!

Ouroboros_Rex

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Oct 13, 2008, 10:35:09 AM10/13/08
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Ray wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:20:56 -0500, "marcodbeast" <its@casual> wrote:
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>>
>> "Ray" <R...@yaooo.net> wrote in message
>> news:q925f41iqvg66bvn0...@4ax.com...
>>> Earlier this year, eight ACORN workers in the St. Louis area pleaded
>>> guilty to election fraud in connection with registrations for the
>>> 2006 election. This week, ACORN submitted a batch of questionable
>>> voter registration cards in Kansas City.
>>>
>>> http://www.columbiatribune.com/2008/Oct/20081011News002.asp
>>
>> Getting ready to justify the massive republican election tampering
>> to come? lol
>
> If your going to post a rebuttal

What rebuttal? You've got nothing.


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Ouroboros_Rex

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Oct 14, 2008, 10:53:22 AM10/14/08
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Ray wrote:
> Hi Dogg. LMAO

Ouroboros_Rex

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Oct 14, 2008, 10:53:35 AM10/14/08
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Ray wrote:
> I bet he is a card carrying Acorn. <grin>
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