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Guns, not dildos: life in Texas

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RS Wood

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Oct 17, 2015, 1:21:31 AM10/17/15
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34507760

Texas university students in dildo protest over gun law
Texas students are planning to hang sex toys from their bags in protest
at a law allowing people to carry concealed weapons on university
campuses.
"You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,"
Jessica Jin, organiser of Campus (DILDO) Carry, wrote on Facebook.
About 3,000 people have signed up for the protest, which is planned for
next year when the law takes effect.
Gun rights supporters have criticised the rally on the group's Facebook page.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott enacted the campus carry law in June. Under
the law, university presidents are permitted to create so-called
"gun-free zones".
"The State of Texas has decided that it is not at all obnoxious to
allow deadly concealed weapons in classrooms, however it DOES have
strict rules about free sexual expression, to protect your innocence,"
wrote Ms Jin, a student at the University of Texas at Austin.
"You would receive a citation for taking a DILDO to class before you
would get in trouble for taking a gun to class. Heaven forbid the
penis," she added.
Some students at the Austin university have appealed to University
President Gregory Fenves to impose limits on the new law.
Daniel Hamermesh, an economics professor at the university, said last
week he was resigning over concerns about his personal safety.
Supporters of gun rights have argued that mass gunmen target "gun-free
zones" such as university campuses and cinemas so they do not meet
resistance when they commit their crimes.
Some students are angry they can be reprimanded for bringing sex toys
on campus, but not for carrying concealed guns
Others say encouraging armed civilians to engage an attacker could lead
to more chaos and deaths.
A student was armed during a recent college shooting in Roseburg,
Oregon, but he did not use his weapon.
He was not in the building where the shootings occurred, and he also
said he feared police could have mistaken him for the gunman, putting
his life in danger.
Gun rights supporters have flooded the protest's Facebook page, mocking
the organisers.
"A grand example of the decline of value in American university
education," read one of the responses.
"As a parent I feel more comfortable with my children having a weapon
on campus rather than a dildo," read another.


Michael Trew

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Jan 10, 2022, 11:01:16 AM1/10/22
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On 10/13/2015 3:35, RS Wood wrote:
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34507760
>
> Texas university students in dildo protest over gun law
> Texas students are planning to hang sex toys from their bags in protest
> at a law allowing people to carry concealed weapons on university campuses.
> "You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,"
> Jessica Jin, organiser of Campus (DILDO) Carry, wrote on Facebook.
> About 3,000 people have signed up for the protest, which is planned for
> next year when the law takes effect.

I don't know what's up with the flood of ancient messages in various
newsgroups, but it's interesting...

On topic, what a bizarre news article.

Retrograde

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Jan 11, 2022, 6:28:03 PM1/11/22
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It might be your settings in Mozilla/Tbird that's now drawing from older
messages. You can change it.

This is a great one worth bringing back up to the top of the list
though. Wonder how Jessica and her huge vinyl schlong are hanging?

Eli the Bearded

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Jan 11, 2022, 9:07:25 PM1/11/22
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In misc.news.internet.discuss, Retrograde <fun...@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-01-10, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2015 3:35, RS Wood wrote:
>>> "You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,"
>>> Jessica Jin, organiser of Campus (DILDO) Carry, wrote on Facebook.
>> I don't know what's up with the flood of ancient messages in various
>> newsgroups, but it's interesting...

I have seen people in three groups (one moderated) complain about the
flood, but I haven't seen it myself.

> This is a great one worth bringing back up to the top of the list
> though. Wonder how Jessica and her huge vinyl schlong are hanging?

According to her Twitter bio she works as a product designer at zinc.com.

https://twitter.com/jessicajin_

No obvious statement about where the toys are now.

Elijah
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remembers 'cocks not glocks' from when it was current

JAB

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Jan 11, 2022, 9:34:56 PM1/11/22
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:01:16 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

12 October 2015
>> Texas university students in dildo protest over gun law

"You would receive a citation for taking a DILDO to class before you
would get in trouble for taking a gun to class. Heaven forbid the
penis," she added.

>I don't know what's up


In 2007, Cruz's legal team, working on behalf of then-Attorney General
Greg Abbott (who now is the governor), filed a 76-page brief calling
on the US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit to uphold the lower
court's decision and permit the law to stand.
...
...
One of the more popular tidbits to emerge from that article pertained
to the assertion that Cruz (via his legal team) had maintained:

In perhaps the most noticeable line of the brief, Cruz's office
declared, "There is no substantive-due-process right to stimulate
one's genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or
outside of an interpersonal relationship." That is, the pursuit of
such happiness had no constitutional standing. And the brief argued
there was no "right to promote dildos, vibrators, and other obscene
devices." The plaintiffs, it noted, were "free to engage in unfettered
noncommercial speech touting the uses of obscene devices," but not
speech designed to generate the sale of these items.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ted-cruz-opposed-self-pleasuring/

Michael Trew

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Jan 12, 2022, 3:32:24 PM1/12/22
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On 1/11/2022 21:07, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In misc.news.internet.discuss, Retrograde<fun...@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2022-01-10, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2015 3:35, RS Wood wrote:
>>>> "You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,"
>>>> Jessica Jin, organiser of Campus (DILDO) Carry, wrote on Facebook.
>>> I don't know what's up with the flood of ancient messages in various
>>> newsgroups, but it's interesting...
>
> I have seen people in three groups (one moderated) complain about the
> flood, but I haven't seen it myself.

What news reader and Usenet service do you use? I could check headers I
suppose, If I were less lazy.

I use Thunderbird and Eternal September, and it only happened over the
course of one day for me... in a local ES NG, many people mentioned it a
day before I saw it; no old articles since. I assumed that it was an ES
issue.

Eli the Bearded

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Jan 12, 2022, 7:23:16 PM1/12/22
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In misc.news.internet.discuss, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> What news reader and Usenet service do you use? I could check headers I
> suppose, If I were less lazy.

Panix, one of the oldest private ISPs. I read with trn, but I'm pretty
sure this is not a news reader issue. Floods of old articles for one
person, maybe, multiple people points to a general issue.

> I assumed that it was an ES issue.

Sounds very plausible.

Elijah
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paying customer at panix.com since 1997

Michael Trew

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:02:53 PM1/13/22
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I checked their website, and I didn't see a subscription option for
news... do you have to pay for a dial up account to get access to NG's?

Eli the Bearded

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Jan 13, 2022, 5:28:07 PM1/13/22
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In misc.news.internet.discuss, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> I checked their website, and I didn't see a subscription option for
> news... do you have to pay for a dial up account to get access to NG's?

Yes and no. They don't sell NNTP as a separate item, you need to buy
some other subscription, but it doesn't need to be dial-up access. I'm
paying $100/yearly for "nodial shell" and $10/monthly for a "v-colo
mini".

The shell account gets me a minimal website, email, netnews, and a shell
account on a shared Unix system with up-to-date tools. The v-colo is a
virtual machine like EC2 on AWS, which gives me a complete system for
running arbitrary things. I have multiple websites hosted there. The
v-colo also includes DNS service and netnews access.

Dial-up access always includes a shell account, I think. From discussion
in the internal newsgroups I know some people are still using it in
1980s-ish ways with glass screened terminals.

Elijah
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has mail filter rules older than gmail

JAB

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Jan 13, 2022, 7:55:38 PM1/13/22
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 22:28:05 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
<*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

>has mail filter rules older than gmail

I was using Pobox.com in its earlier days, and their filters needed
improvement.

Retrograde

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:00:38 PM1/14/22
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On 2022-01-12, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
> No obvious statement about where the toys are now.
>
Oh, we all know where she's got it, har har har.

> remembers 'cocks not glocks' from when it was current

That is poetry, pure poetry. So awesome.

Retrograde

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:04:28 PM1/14/22
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Woo, that is some dense legalese. Going to take a few reads to parse it.
Sounds like one has no constitutional right to jerk off.

Rather than try, I'll just point out that:

TED CRUZ IS A HUGE DILDO HIMSELF. And a HUGE FUCKING JERK OFF.

JAB

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Jan 15, 2022, 10:25:23 AM1/15/22
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 04:04:27 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde
<fun...@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

>TED CRUZ

I can't find it now, but there's a vid on Cruz's flip-flops concerning
Trump. Many voters have a short memory...otherwise, Cruz would be
history.

Michael Trew

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Jan 15, 2022, 9:17:03 PM1/15/22
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That's pretty cool. I've considered springing for an actual paid Usenet
service rather than Eternal September. I can't get binary images as-is.

Do you have any clue what their retention is, or how much data one is
given for Usenet (if limited)? Also, is paying by check an option? I
don't do auto-pay or credit-card pay, and I prefer not to do on-line
bill pay.

Thanks!

Eli the Bearded

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Jan 17, 2022, 2:27:57 PM1/17/22
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In misc.news.internet.discuss, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
[ re panix.com ]
> That's pretty cool. I've considered springing for an actual paid Usenet
> service rather than Eternal September. I can't get binary images as-is.

If you specifically want Usenet, and nothing else, other providers are
cheaper and have better retention. Panix is in New York, and the NYS
attourney general went on a "Usenet spreads child porn" thing in the
1990s, which resulted in the dropping of a lot of binary groups here.

> Do you have any clue what their retention is, or how much data one is
> given for Usenet (if limited)?

The retention here is not so different from what you might expect in
late nineties. A couple of months for text groups, very short for
binary. (But unlimited for panix.* internal.) They use a cyclical
buffer, so exact retention varies with how much traffic there is. As of
today, oldest acticle in misc.news.internet.discuss is from the 18th of
November 2021.

> Also, is paying by check an option?

It is. I know because there was a bout of postal issues that were
delaying people's payments not so long ago.

Elijah
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has not looked at a binary newsgroup since before that crackdrown

JAB

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Jan 17, 2022, 7:07:07 PM1/17/22
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:27:55 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
<*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

> the NYS
>attourney general went on a "Usenet spreads child porn" thing in the
>1990s, which resulted in the dropping of a lot of binary groups here

That killed AT&T's Usenet, and I'm sure other ISPs jumped on this
bandwagon, which essentially 'killed' Usenet....but those seeking out
porn found it on WWW sites...which begs the ?, WTF did that
accomplish.

In earlier days, all all ISPs carried Usenet....'Please note that on
or around July 15, 2009, AT&T will no longer be offering access to the
Usenet netnews service. If you wish to continue reading Usenet
newsgroups, access is available through third-party vendors.'

https://slashdot.org/story/09/06/09/1655213/att-dropping-usenet-netnews-low-cost-alternatives

Michael Trew

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Jan 17, 2022, 7:23:57 PM1/17/22
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Comcast, and many others, I've heard, dropped Usenet access circa 2009.
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