Welcome to misc.legal
Atlas Bugged
my crosspost list.
One of the few things to have ever come out of the defendants' blowhard
mouths - at least online - is the fact that the case may just present
unsettled legal issues.
Since I've been viciously, obviously, and unquestionably libeled, the
various protections built into the law that benefit the civil reprobates
(section 230 is a glaring example) may require some kind of modification.
I expect to get relief even with the law as it stands, but the broader
issues of what the law could and should be will be discussed as well.
That, and other legal issues, remain somewhat unsettled.
Since I have unquestionable standing, fairly impressive legal chops, and a
history of taking on legal battles just to get the law changed (when I
believed it was wrong, or merely sub-ideal,) the suit could be interesting
to Usenet readers in a purely academic sense.
I've fought with and defeated established law in the past. One was in my
relative youth, and though I won, it brought me some unwelcome publicity for
a few years.
I also believe in keeping all speech as free-flowing as possible, so in some
ways I may wind up in a fight against myself.
I firmly believe in anonymity, as well, though it is the speaker's
responsibility, not the government's, to ensure it. Again, this could pit
me against myself! But I do believe the law could simply be made better so
more legitimate concerns could be addressed - on both sides.
I am glad to add <misc.legal> to the discussions, as the other three groups
I normally post to (see header) are basically either defendants in the
pending litigation, or comletely unable to intelligently discuss the issues.
(Many are just anon socks of the people who libelled, and are presently
fleeing from service of process.)
Go here for a basic quick-take on what this is about. I update the page as
my investigations bear fruit.
Any non-troll discussion of the matter would be welcome, though actual
comment on the specific case has to be moderated and limited.
Having now heard from at least one attorney representing the defendants, I
will need to actually go the other way - start releasing *less* information,
and posting no discussion whatsoever - specific to that defendant.
My guess is that at least one among the defendants, perhaps even more, will
be too arrogant to deal with anywhere except before judge and jury, so the
case may prove a test of the law worthy of discussion here, at some point.
Any defendant who remains involved to that point waives any claim to keeping
it "off the 'net."
--
The Atlas Bugged Experience
dick move
<ic9b...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>Atlas Bugged wrote:
>>
>> I've been viciously, obviously, and unquestionably libeled
>
>*rolls eyes*
>
>> I have unquestionable standing, fairly impressive legal chops, and a
>> history of taking on legal battles
>
>*rolls eyes*
>
>You're definitely whiny and full of yourself, if nothing else.
You're no better with your retarded eye rolling crap. It's neither
clever nor cute, it's contrived and cliche. Go back to your AOL
chatrooms where shit like that is considered wit.
>
>(misc.legal removed and replaced with a more appropriate group)
(misc.legal restored because you're a stupid twat of a nobody)
richard
<atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to add them to
>my crosspost list.
>
>One of the few things to have ever come out of the defendants' blowhard
>mouths - at least online - is the fact that the case may just present
>unsettled legal issues.
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
You should be well aware then of "Just Taylor" who is the master of
spreading libel and slander. I once posted some rather juicy stuff
about him using only his screen name of "Taylor Jiminez" and he
immediately jumped on my host threatening a lawsuit if the page wasn't
removed. I pointed out to my host that a fictional character has no
legal standing in the matter of a lawsuit of libel/slander.
Once I found out who he truly is and announced it to the world, the
chickenshit coward ran away and hasn't been heard from since. At least
not by that name anyway.
If you are only known by your screen name, and everyone who libels or
slanders it, really is not doing so against YOU per se. Then in order
to be true libel, YOU and you alone must be identified so that there
is no mistake as to whom is being spoken of.
In my case, with the great kookmeister taylor posting my home address
and other personal information, makes it quite clear as to whom he is
attacking and I could easily sue his ass royally for it. But since his
main web site got taken down, and I know who he is in real life, I
don't much give a shit any more.
Can donald duck sue mickey mouse? not likely.
can you sue donald duck? hardly.
But in this crazy day who knows what will work and won't unless you
try.
Sofa King
THE AUKTARDS HATE BEING IGNORED
Sofa King
how are you going to sue someone for information that they can get in a
phonebook, kook?
libel is not the same offense as writing someone's phone number down, you
dolt.
> But since his
> main web site got taken down, and I know who he is in real life, I
> don't much give a shit any more.
>
> Can donald duck sue mickey mouse? not likely.
> can you sue donald duck? hardly.
oh, so if someone socks up as mickey mouse and commits wire fraud, we best
give up, because this case would be impossible to solve.
henri
wrote:
>On 4/7/09 3:40 PM, in article 2ncvnv....@news.alt.net, "Atlas Bugged"
>wrote:
>> I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to add them to
>> my crosspost list.
>Why don't you add misc.legal.moderated, where the serious lawyers hang out,
>and get a real opinion on your suit? Think you could get this mess past
>Bernie Cosell?
Please no. misc.legal is the on-topic newsgroup for this crap. After
all, it might as well be called misc.legal.kooks already.
Aratzio
richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
That may be the kook legal battle of the century.
<orders truckload of popcorn and flame thrower>
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Don't you think the denizens of misc.legal.moderated would find
it...um...interesting? The fact pattern, I mean.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
henri
<ni...@databasix.com> wrote:
>henri wrote:
>> Please no. misc.legal is the on-topic newsgroup for this crap. After
>> all, it might as well be called misc.legal.kooks already.
>Don't you think the denizens of misc.legal.moderated would find
>it...um...interesting? The fact pattern, I mean.
Maybe when it gets to the stage where Novins is sanctioned.
ah
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On 4/7/09 9:21 PM, in article
> grh3l6$9bc$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> wrote:
>
>> henri wrote:
>>> On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:03:34 -0400, MillerT <this...@isamunge.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/7/09 3:40 PM, in article 2ncvnv....@news.alt.net, "Atlas
>>>> Bugged" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to
>>>>> add them to my crosspost list.
>>>
>>>> Why don't you add misc.legal.moderated, where the serious lawyers
>>>> hang out, and get a real opinion on your suit? Think you could get
>>>> this mess past Bernie Cosell?
>>>
>>> Please no. misc.legal is the on-topic newsgroup for this crap.
>>> After all, it might as well be called misc.legal.kooks already.
>>
>> Don't you think the denizens of misc.legal.moderated would find
>> it...um...interesting? The fact pattern, I mean.
>
> Updates, or non-legal asides on the group, but posting the facts and
> requesting opinions would undoubtedly draw interest from the lawyers.
>
> I'd pay particular attention to anything Mike Jacobs, Cy Press, or
> Daniel Reitman had to say (a few others I may be forgetting) --
> particularly Mike, as he's extremely sharp and knowledgeable, has a
> great deal of common sense, and tends to be generous with his time.
Good to know. I'll think about what both you and Henri wrote, and
perhaps I'll put something together.
я黨wぃf
of<2ncvnv....@news.alt.net>:
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DO YUO HACE ANY FUCKNOZZLES TO DISCUSS, NET ABUZER!?!??!!?
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>> my crosspost list.
>
You forgot to end that with "Heh" like you do every other post.
King John I of AUK
"Dead Kitten" <ic9b...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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His brain is turning into a giant twinkie...
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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On 4/8/09 10:07 AM, in article
> grib96$aun$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> Project.
That and the relevant thr^H^HH^Hposts.
Aratzio
Kali <ka...@happy.joy> got double secret probation for writing:
>In article <3171623.W...@127.0.0.1>, ro...@127.0.0.1 says...
>Roberta flames RtS in an epic battle of wits.
Only after RtS corrected novins.
Aratzio
MillerT <this...@isamunge.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
>On 4/8/09 2:31 PM, in article 2nfg34....@news.alt.net, "Meat Plow"
>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:40:22 -0400, "Atlas Bugged"
>> <atlasbug...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to add them to
>>> my crosspost list.
>>
>> hahahahahah!
>
>Especially considering he's made only two of the last 35,000+ posts to that
>group (under his current nym, anyway), with the original of this being the
>first. So who's asking?
Bar bs uvf "nabalzbhf" fhccbegref.
<juvfgyrf vaabpragyl>
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If'n that isn't a circle jerk of Ultimate Fscking FAIL^(10^(10^10))).
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news:49dc1bb4$0$35414$892e...@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:
I did not know that cows were partial to Ho-Ho's. I always see them
eating grass. I think you're most kind supplying them with those tasty
snacks.
It's simply amazing what one can learn here on Global Usenet!
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Of misinformation
Watch your money
Flow away oh so quick
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Coke is it
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spooge <spo...@databasix.com> got double secret probation for writing:
You should see what they feed fluffy.
Cherrq AW Ynjlre
spooge
news:blkqt4lrg6ck1n27s...@4ax.com:
The poor kitty!
The ASPCA will hear about this, mister.
Aratzio
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, spooge <spo...@databasix.com> got
Gives fluffy that nasty disposition and gas, really horrible gas.
metro-golden-meower
or do you mean sectioned?
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Aratzio
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, metro-golden-meower
<metro-gol...@meowdot.org> got double secret probation for
writing:
>On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:12:05 -0400, henri <he...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:21:50 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>><ni...@databasix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>henri wrote:
>>
>>>> Please no. misc.legal is the on-topic newsgroup for this crap. After
>>>> all, it might as well be called misc.legal.kooks already.
>>
>>>Don't you think the denizens of misc.legal.moderated would find
>>>it...um...interesting? The fact pattern, I mean.
>>
>>Maybe when it gets to the stage where Novins is sanctioned.
>
>or do you mean sectioned?
Or someone sanctions his sectioning.
Linda
wrote:
> I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to add them to
> my crosspost list.
>
I reside in the State of Nevada.
In 2003, the State of Nevada amended it's anti-cyberstalking laws to
explicitly prohibit cyberstalking in usenet's newsgroups.
Furthermore, it's unlawful for residents of my state to participate
in Hate groups like AUK et al.
If you don't discuss your dilemma vis a vis One True Roger and Kent
Wills and their conspirators in AUK in a lawful forum, no one other
then criminals will contribute to the discussion.
Sincerely
Linda Gore
Las Vegas, Nevada
krp
"Linda" <indomi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:73b72b0f-7f8b-48cd...@q9g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
Sincerely
Linda are you suggesting that Kent Wills is a TROLL and stalker? Heaven
forbid.
<g>
Sylvia Else
>
> "Linda" <indomi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:73b72b0f-7f8b-48cd...@q9g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 7, 12:40 pm, "Atlas Bugged" <atlasbuggedbys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I've recently been asked by a couple of members of misc.legal to add
>> them to
>> my crosspost list.
>>
>
> I reside in the State of Nevada.
>
> In 2003, the State of Nevada amended it's anti-cyberstalking laws to
> explicitly prohibit cyberstalking in usenet's newsgroups.
>
> Furthermore, it's unlawful for residents of my state to participate
> in Hate groups like AUK et al.
>
> If you don't discuss your dilemma vis a vis One True Roger and Kent
> Wills and their conspirators in AUK in a lawful forum, no one other
> then criminals will contribute to the discussion.
I'm not in Nevada, so I could contribute to the discussion, despite not
being a criminal.
Mind you, the OP's posting has most, if not all, the qualities of a
rant, so I'm less than inclined to participate.
Sylvia.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On 4/10/09 7:51 AM, in article
Ms. Else seems to have been referring to Atlas Bugged, not Linda.
> I suggest you do a Google
> search or Google Groups search on her name and read some of her
> posts. Most of them are rants, many are libelous.
>
> NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
> disenfranchised.
Sylvia Else
Yes.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I'm alleging that One True Roger and Kent Wills are members of an army
of malicious criminals and other undesirables who have been
cybersquatting in topical usenet forums for sixteen years.
I'm alleging that One True Roger, Kent Wills and the army of malicious
criminals and other undesirables cybersquatting in topical forums have
routinely rendered the name/nyms of topical usenet forum subscribers
whom they failed to compel to go along with their criminal activities
via blackmail, stalking and terrorism to the members of the SPP/AUK
Criminal Stalking Ring to be subjected to SPP/AUK's Enhanced Program
of Systematic Torture aka Loser Attitude Readjustment Training AKA
L.A.R.T.
I'm alleging that One True Roger, Kent Wills and the army of malicous
criminals and other undesirables cybersquatting in topical usenet
forums are co-conspirators with members of the SPP/AUK Criminal
Stalking Ring in the blackmail, cyberstalking, cyberterrorism,
attempted murder, and, in at least one case, the murder of the
individual whose names/nyms were rendered to the SPP/AUK Criminals
Stalking Ring to be subjected to their Enhanced Program of Systematic
Torture aka L.A.R.T.
I'm alleging that the conspiracy to blackmail usenet sbuscribers to
going along with criminal activities, includes, but is not limited
to the threat to libel subscribers who refuse to go along with
criminal activites as a CRIMINAL per
Kimberly K Barnard aka Kali in the speech which Kimberly K Barnard
authored, published, and addressed to yours truly when convicted
child molester Mark D. Morin, unlawful porno forum subscriber Pablo
and the Kimberly the Schizo Barnard successfully libeled me as a
criminal by their successfully campaigning to secure this crime victim
the KOTM to exact retribution against me for refusing to go along with
their criminal activities in the topical forums they were
cybersquatting in.
From: Kali <K...@lart.meow>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Linda Gore's Speech, was: Re: WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards,
December 2004
Message-ID: <MPG.1c4aeaa1...@news.east.earthlink.net>
"The awards granted by alt.usenet.kooks are the official Usenet kook
awards, Linda. They were not created for the purpose of devaluing
acts
of kindness. They were created, and are maintained, for the purpose
of
recognizing abusive posters. Your fellow nominees are liars, bigots,
frauds, forgers, defamers, screed spammers, people who falsely accuse
others of stalking when they themselves are the stalkers, etc. You
get
the picture. If you don't, return to the above link and read.
Not just anyone can be nominated; there are standards that must be
upheld. No one may be nominated for purposes of revenge or a joke.
Not
all nominations are accepted. There must be evidence of abuse. You
have
generated a lot of it. You are an abuser."
Kimberly K Barnard's speech is all Charles Novins requires to prove
Charles Novins was globally libeled by persons taking part in a
conspiracy to defame by virtue of such nominations.
Linda
>
> NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills
Exhibit A
SPP/AUK Criminal Stalking Ring's July 2007 List of Nominees in which
Atlas Bugged is prominently listed twice.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/1fd7f8abb84e3663?hl=en
Exhibit B
The speech which Kimberly K Barnard aka Kali authored, published,
and addressed to yours truly after convicted child molester Mark D.
Morin, a subscriber of an unlawful child porno forum known as
alt.binaries.pictures.asparagus, and their DID/Schizoaffective pupil
FINALLY secured a winning tally for their repeated nominations of
yours truly to AUK's Hate List, wherein Kimberly K Barnard explains
exactly what the nominees of AUK's Hate List are being globally
libeled as.
From: Kali <K...@lart.meow>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Linda Gore's Speech, was: Re: WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards,
December 2004
Message-ID: <MPG.1c4aeaa156adca398a...@news.east.earthlink.net>
"The awards granted by alt.usenet.kooks are the official Usenet kook
awards, Linda. They were not created for the purpose of devaluing
acts
of kindness. They were created, and are maintained, for the purpose
of
recognizing abusive posters. Your fellow nominees are liars, bigots,
frauds, forgers, defamers, screed spammers, people who falsely accuse
others of stalking when they themselves are the stalkers, etc. You
get
the picture. If you don't, return to the above link and read.
Not just anyone can be nominated; there are standards that must be
upheld. No one may be nominated for purposes of revenge or a joke.
Not
all nominations are accepted. There must be evidence of abuse. You
have
generated a lot of it. You are an abuser."
Exhibit A and Exhibit B are all Atlas Bugged needs to prove Atlas
Bugged was globally libeled by persons taking part in a conspiracy to
defame by virtue of any and all such nominations.
krp
"MillerT" <this...@isamunge.com> wrote in message
news:grne9n$3nf$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> Google Groups search on her name and read some of her posts. Most of them
> are rants, many are libelous.
>
> disenfranchised.
One WONDERS WHY????
Aratzio
"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> got double secret probation for writing:
Outer filthing, real lifing fuckwits would be the first reason. The
denizens of AUK also dislike kooks like them going after *our* kooks
(you). That is just wrong.
BTW: Have you read the kooksoot?
Linda
> "MillerT" <thisem...@isamunge.com> wrote in message
>
> news:grne9n$3nf$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4/10/09 7:51 AM, in article 000dfb5a$0$8023$c3e8...@news.astraweb.com,
> > "Sylvia Else" wrote:
>
> >> krp wrote:
>
To buy themselves some time.
On or about February 2, 2004, my refusal to go along with the
criminal activities being engaged in by the malicious criminals and
other undesirables cybersquatting in the topical usenet forums I
subscribed to resulted in Mark D. Morin rendering my name to the SPP./
AUK Criminal Stalkers for SPP/AUK's Enhanced Program of Systematic
Torture aka L.A.R.T.
Two days later, an anonymous poster published Newspaper articles to
all relevant usenet forums describing the details of Mark D. Morin's
Dec. 2003 conviction for sexually molesting a child Morin bedded the
summer of 2002.
The SPP/AUK Criminal Stalking Ring reacted to being the butt of
ridicule as a result of yet another one of their libeling nominators
being convicted of a heinous crime by rejecting Morin's nomination to
"let the dust settle".
Five months later, a mentally ill castoff from the insurance
industry's pink collar ghetto whom Morin, the convicted child
molester, had mentored and got admitted to his alma mater, came
charging into the topical forums I subscribe to, accompanied by a
couple of henchmen, armed with dossiers they'd compiled with "fly on
the wall" type info, some of which they could only have obtained by
placing me under surveillance in RL, and invested the next nine
months of their lives flooding the ngs I subscribed to with over 4,000
libelous, harassing, and threatening articles, steadfastly ignored
by me, in order to blackmail this donkey into coming out of her
stall to a place where the SPP/AUK Criminals could "deal" with me.
Had Atlas Bugged bought the crappola the SPP/AUK Criminals stalkers
are selling wrt their alleged disenfranchizement of a couple of their
veteran co-conspirators "after" all the damage from their conspiracy
to defame was a fait accompli by virtue of the nominations, which are
libelous in and of themselves, and, irrefutable evidence of the
existence of a conspiracy to defame, since those libelous
nominations involve a nominator, a seconder, and acceptance(s),
then the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalking Ring would have let the dust settle
long enough for the "disenfranchized" coconspirators to go
underground, and come back up with brand new socks to match their
brand new persona's and they'd all gone after AB, with a vengence.
However, AB didn't buy the BS that a conspiracy can't be inferred
from their behavior....so proceeded with his civil action.
At this juncture, most of the malicious criminals and other
undesirables residing in the US will scram and be replaced by foreign
agents from England, Canada, Austrailia, China---at least that's
what happens in topical usenet forums when an american insists on
their constitutional right to participate in public discussion of
issues of public concerns without being made the intended recipient of
unwanted and unwelcome communications of malicious criminals and other
undesirables misusing ICS to pursue unwanted and unwelcome
communications with them.
If there existed any possibility of an american civilian prevailing in
court against the malicious crimianls and other undesirables misusing
ICS to libel and stalk them, it be a lawyer who could prevail.
But, there's no possibility of an America obtaining justice in an
american courtroom.
It's understood that all US government employees, which includes all
US Judges, are to say and do everything within their power to
incessantly shock civilian Americans ala the dogs which Seligman and
the other psychopaths tortured at the University of Pennsylvania for a
couple of decades, or else the USG will Spitzerize the Judge.
it's US JUDGES duty to keep right on making rulings which spark off
round after round after round of Murder . Suicide Sprees all across
America, not rulings which might incite a flicker of Hope in
Americans.
krp
--------------------------------
I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
really attack him. Isn't that funny?
King John I of AUK
"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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BTW: Have you learned to wipe yourself ??
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metro-golden-meower
he'll probably try and sue the dr's for malpractice if he is sectioned.
Aratzio
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, metro-golden-meower
<metro-gol...@meowdot.org> got double secret probation for
writing:
>On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:08:31 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:28:43 +0100, in the land of
>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, metro-golden-meower
>><metro-gol...@meowdot.org> got double secret probation for
>>writing:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:12:05 -0400, henri <he...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:21:50 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>>>><ni...@databasix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>henri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Please no. misc.legal is the on-topic newsgroup for this crap. After
>>>>>> all, it might as well be called misc.legal.kooks already.
>>>>
>>>>>Don't you think the denizens of misc.legal.moderated would find
>>>>>it...um...interesting? The fact pattern, I mean.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe when it gets to the stage where Novins is sanctioned.
>>>
>>>or do you mean sectioned?
>>
>>Or someone sanctions his sectioning.
>
>he'll probably try and sue the dr's for malpractice if he is sectioned.
Only if they sectioned him incorrectly, like 7 pieces insead of the
standard 6. If they follow the standard procedure he would have little
recourse.
Now, who gets the "6 pieces" reference?
ah
Obviously, you've never abused Ho-Ho's.
As for the cows, I worked 'em for ter lubricants!
>
> It's simply amazing what one can learn here on Global Usenet!
ah
metro-golden-meower
blackbeard says you owe him two peices, fuckhead.
Aratzio
Brick Top was the character.
Snatch was the movie.
spooge
news:49e144c6$0$57666$892e...@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:
No, I haven't, but I did overdo some Hostess cupcakes once.
> As for the cows, I worked 'em for ter lubricants!
>
>>
>> It's simply amazing what one can learn here on Global Usenet!
>
> http://www.sundancechannel.com/greenporno/
That's some good stuff.
metro-golden-meower
its a shame that rock 'n' roller was a crap film. i watched it a couple of weeks back. with any luck after getting rid of his
impediment (madona) he'll be back on form sooner rather than later.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
to day.
At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
If and when the moment passes, one true roger and Kent Wills will
resume rendering the names/nyms of topical forums subscribers who
won't go along with their criminal activities to the SPP/AUK Criminal
Stalkers for it's Enhanced Program of Systematic Torture aka LARTing
as if the socalled disenfranchisement never happened.
The SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers have never have to concern themselves
with veracity wrt what the SPP/AUK Criminals Stalkers "say" on
account of the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalking Ring's membership including
google hackers, if not google employees, who compromize google
search engine to make damn sure that search results are limited to
archives which the SPP/AUK Criminals Stalkers/Terrorists want the
uninitiated members of the public to see.
krp
On Apr 10, 6:04 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
> > > disenfranchised.
>
> > One WONDERS WHY
>
> < To buy themselves some time.
> I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
> really attack him. Isn't that funny?
< Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
<to day.
They have "SAID" that Wills and Roger have been disenfranchised yet they
never REALLY answer them, and sometimes SIDE with them.
< At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
< denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
Everyone knows, by now, that it's disingenuous though.
Michael Davis
> Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:31:08 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>>Kali <ka...@happy.joy> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>In article <3171623.W...@127.0.0.1>, ro...@127.0.0.1 says...
>>>> how are you going to sue someone for information that they can get in a
>>>> phonebook, kook?
>>>>
>>>> libel is not the same offense as writing someone's phone number down,
>>>> you dolt.
>>>>
>>>> > But since his
>>>> > main web site got taken down, and I know who he is in real life, I
>>>> > don't much give a shit any more.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can donald duck sue mickey mouse? not likely.
>>>> > can you sue donald duck? hardly.
>>>>
>>>> oh, so if someone socks up as mickey mouse and commits wire fraud, we
>>>> best give up, because this case would be impossible to solve.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > But in this crazy day who knows what will work and won't unless you
>>>> > try.
>>>
>>>Roberta flames RtS in an epic battle of wits.
>>
>>Only after RtS corrected novins.
>
> If'n that isn't a circle jerk of Ultimate Fscking FAIL^(10^(10^10))).
i see you've joined the circle.
--
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Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d45bb31f-d644-41fc...@y34g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 6:04 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
> > > > disenfranchised.
>
> > > One WONDERS WHY
>
> > < To buy themselves some time.
> > I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
> > really attack him. Isn't that funny?
>
> < Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
> <to day.
>
> They have "SAID" that Wills and Roger have been disenfranchised yet they
> never REALLY answer them, and sometimes SIDE with them.
Actions speak louder than words.
Denouncing the field soldiers who rendered AB's name/nym to the SPP/
AUK Criminal Stalking Ring as "rotten eggs" wasn't accompanied by a
halt in the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers subjecting AB to their Enhanced
Program of Systematic Torture aka LARTing....was it?
>
> < At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
> < denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
>
> Everyone knows, by now, that it's disingenuous though.
It only seems that way to the uninitiated.
After awhile you'll come to view their vileness as banal and quite
boring.
Aratzio
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Any one
<?O75z!/9²s@WqP0SZXAs0NO2&D}CA³1_G.#`}> got double secret probation
for writing:
>I recall the 'greedy as a pig' dialog. Can't recall anything about 6
>pieces.
That was how many pieces you cut them into for easy disposal.
Aratzio
So did you understand what they were saying?
ah
Oho!
>
>> As for the cows, I worked 'em for ter lubricants!
>>
>>>
>>> It's simply amazing what one can learn here on Global Usenet!
>>
>> http://www.sundancechannel.com/greenporno/
>
> That's some good stuff.
Too many Credits:, though.
--
ah
metro-golden-meower
only the cockney, the ruskie gibberish, not at all.
TNKev
Kenny, usenet is nothing. 99.99999999% of the world goes about their
daily lives oblivious to the fact that usenet exists. it can be accessed
for free and any person can post whatever text they feel the desire to
post in any unmoderated group they want to post to.
Linda
> >news:d45bb31f-d644-41fc...@y34g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 10, 6:04 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
> >> > > disenfranchised.
>
> >> > One WONDERS WHY
>
> >> < To buy themselves some time.
>
> >> I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
> >> really attack him. Isn't that funny?
>
> > < Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
> > <to day.
>
> > They have "SAID" that Wills and Roger have been disenfranchised yet
> > they never REALLY answer them, and sometimes SIDE with them.
>
> > < At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
> > < denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
>
> > Everyone knows, by now, that it's disingenuous though.
>
> Kenny, usenet is nothing.
Your substituting a false issue for the actual issue is duly noted.
The actual issue is all the malicious criminals and other
undesirables cybersquatting in topical usenet forums and engaging in
tortuous and criminal activities to control the flow of info so it's
favorable to their sinister agendas, AND, rendering the names/nyms
of anyone who doesn't go along with their tortuous and criminal
activities to the SPP/AUK Criminals Stalkers for LARTing.
The aspect of the issue which KRP and I were discussing is the
meaningless of the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers denouncing One True Roger
and Kent Wills as rotten eggs when A) nobody other then rotten eggs
routinely renders the names / nyms of others to the SPP/AUK Criminal
Stalking Ring, and, B) the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers proceeded with
their tortuous and criminal LARTing of AB.
krp
There is more than a small amount of evidence to believe that TNKev and Kent
Wills are the SAME.
Russell Tavek
On 4/15/09 2:10 PM, in article 2o1tfh.o...@news.alt.net, "Meat Plow"
<me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> Yeah I guess I really have done you a lot of harm haven't I.
> I've come into your home, cast my writings onto your computer screen
> while forcibly holding your head towards it and forcing your eyes open
> while screaming READ MY POSTS relentlessly in your ear all the while
> holding you at gunpoint threatening to shoot if you didn't read my
> posts.
>
> Yep I'm the bad one that needed to carry a warning sign that said DO
> NOT READ around.
You might want to tell your buddies Carl Osterwald and Peter J. Ross about
that. They're the ones calling up CenturyTel's corporate headquarters and
bombarding the WHOIS contacts with complaints in an effort to silence a
poster who appears to be guilty of nothing more than unending fag lames. But
of course, like all the AUK Sociopaths, you have difficulty holding yourself
and your friends to the same standards you'd like everyone else to follow.
TNKev
> On Apr 14, 11:32 am, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> krp wrote:
>>
>>> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:d45bb31f-d644-41fc...@y34g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Apr 10, 6:04 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
>>>>>> disenfranchised.
>>>>> One WONDERS WHY
>>>> < To buy themselves some time.
>>>> I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
>>>> really attack him. Isn't that funny?
>>> < Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
>>> <to day.
>>> They have "SAID" that Wills and Roger have been disenfranchised yet
>>> they never REALLY answer them, and sometimes SIDE with them.
>>> < At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
>>> < denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
>>> Everyone knows, by now, that it's disingenuous though.
>> Kenny, usenet is nothing.
>
> Your substituting a false issue for the actual issue is duly noted.
the actual issue is you taking this idiocy seriously. turn off your PC
and it all goes away.
>
> The actual issue is all the malicious criminals and other
> undesirables cybersquatting in topical usenet forums and engaging in
> tortuous and criminal activities to control the flow of info so it's
> favorable to their sinister agendas, AND, rendering the names/nyms
> of anyone who doesn't go along with their tortuous and criminal
> activities to the SPP/AUK Criminals Stalkers for LARTing.
in other words someone was mean to you and now you are mad about it.
turn off your PC and it all goes away.
>
> The aspect of the issue which KRP and I were discussing is the
> meaningless of the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers denouncing One True Roger
> and Kent Wills as rotten eggs when A) nobody other then rotten eggs
> routinely renders the names / nyms of others to the SPP/AUK Criminal
> Stalking Ring, and, B) the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers proceeded with
> their tortuous and criminal LARTing of AB.
>
they don't like Kent and Roger in their club.........so? that was their
way of separating themselves from what they believe is not the way
someone in their click acts. It isn't as big a deal as you make it out
to be. they "disenfranchised" me as well. I didn't know I was
"franchised" who cares? Kenny is still an idiot.
TNKev
I would so thoroughly enjoy to see you make an attempt at proving I am
another person. making such statements is exactly why the Aukers want
Kent to leave you alone, because you are THEIR kOOk!
I am not Kent or Roger or anyone else on usenet except me, you throw
your "more than small evidence" out on the table Kenny.
Gregory Hall
news:C60BA978.117BF%restavek...@yahoo.com...
These creeps get scummier and scummier as time passes. Freaking netKKKops
and organized, bogus abuse complaint, letter writers! Imagine that, trying
to get HJ booted from his ISP just because he calls them a bunch of fat fags
(which they seem to me to be without a doubt).
That's why anybody who goes up against these creeps should consider getting
an account with Altopia. They can send in a million bogus complaints and all
that will happen is they will be automatically round-filed after being
laughed at. Never get an account with a sleaze NSP like DataBasux because
they are so unethical and vindictive that they will likely identify your ISP
and computer's network adapter MAC address from their logs and attempt to
infect your computer with all sorts of nasty things like viruses, worms and
key loggers. If this doesn't work they will likely then try flooding your
ISP with bogus abuse complaints from a variety of compatriot scumbags using
different computers thus multiplying the harassment.
And these same derelicts accuse others of "net abuse?" Yah, right!
--
Gregory Hall
King John I of AUK
"Russell Tavek" <restavek...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:C60BA978.117BF%restavek...@yahoo.com...
>
>
>
Reading these words is like breathing fresh Spring air at a picnic near
a stream.... Thanks!
--
KHJ
Michael Davis
when i made turnabout fair play i made sure to save all of the complaints
they made to my workplace. i was really hoping that they would mistakenly
try to sue me for sending carl's daughter a message, but the main point i
was trying to make is that they were/are endangering themselves and loved
ones just to be entertained by the misery of others. i really regret
letting them know that i could see their complaints as my friend was
processing them, except they thought i was intercepting them or
something... so they called even more people who weren't even a part of the
abuse complaint process to try to make their fucktardery "stick". one of
them called my boss AT HIS HOUSE.
i sometimes wonder what AUK would be like if i had pursued a lawsuit against
those idiots. i had enough evidence of collusion to harass and libel me to
convince a 3rd grader that these idiots were trying to get me fired or in
trouble for 1st amendment protected speech. the only reason i didn't is
because i had had enough of the retards and figured that the LART was VERY
effective for the idiots involved.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
That's utter bullshit. Actually, it's probably libel.
> And these same derelicts accuse others of "net abuse?" Yah, right!
Are you ever going to get over it? Just askin'.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
Dead Kitten
> Gregory Hall wrote:
>>
>> These creeps get scummier and scummier as time passes. Freaking
>> netKKKops and organized, bogus abuse complaint, letter writers!
>> Imagine that, trying to get HJ booted from his ISP just because he
>> calls them a bunch of fat fags (which they seem to me to be without a
>> doubt).
>> That's why anybody who goes up against these creeps should consider
>> getting an account with Altopia. They can send in a million bogus
>> complaints and all that will happen is they will be automatically
>> round-filed after being laughed at. Never get an account with a
>> sleaze NSP like DataBasux because they are so unethical and
>> vindictive that they will likely identify your ISP and computer's
>> network adapter MAC address from their logs and attempt to infect
>> your computer with all sorts of nasty things like viruses, worms and
>> key loggers. If this doesn't work they will likely then try flooding
>> your ISP with bogus abuse complaints from a variety of compatriot
>> scumbags using different computers thus multiplying the harassment.
>
> That's utter bullshit. Actually, it's probably libel.
I don't see how. He praised Altopia and bad mouthed some non-existent
entity he calls "DataBasux"... I'm pretty sure one can't libel entities
that don't exist.
atlas bugged
news:gs5b23$6cl$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> Meat Plow wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:43:17 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>> <ni...@databasix.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:19:42 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>>>> <ni...@databasix.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rob Wolfe has never treated me ill, and I have no reason not to
>>>>> treat him in a friendly manner.
>>>>
>>>> This takes me back to a day a year or so ago when this identical
>>>> sentence (substitute the name with a certain Tom's River NJ
>>>> resident) was directed towards a friendly warning from me. Too bad
>>>> said warning was never heeded.
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>
>>> Too bad no one ever warned me about you.
>>
>> Yeah I guess I really have done you a lot of harm haven't I.
>> I've come into your home, cast my writings onto your computer screen
>> while forcibly holding your head towards it and forcing your eyes open
>> while screaming READ MY POSTS relentlessly in your ear all the while
>> holding you at gunpoint threatening to shoot if you didn't read my
>> posts.
>>
>> Yep I'm the bad one that needed to carry a warning sign that said DO
>> NOT READ around.
>>
>> That does make more sense.
>>
>>
>> .....heh
>
> Very few people actually buy the bs that "it's only words on the screen."
> Go ask a real person who lives in the real world what s/he thinks. You're
> so immersed in auk culture that you've lost all compassion for your fellow
> humans. I'm not an anthropologist by any stretch of the imagination, but
> even I recognize primitive tribal behavior when I see it.
>
> How does it feel to be a knuckle-dragger?
>
> Besides which, if words on the screen really have no meaning, then I'd not
> have objected to Novins' ill words on the screen. Moreover, he and I would
> still be friends, and I would not even be a party to this ridiculous
> lawsuit.
If it's so ridiculous, how come you're desperately hiding from service, you
preposterous fraud?
Some defendants have answered, and they get consideration. You are a worse
convert to the AUK delusion than many others.
A big part of AUK psychology is self-destructive behavior. You seem
hell-bent on disgracing yourself, going so far as to brag of marrying one
Usenet's least-respected trolls.
You, instead, are about to find all sorts of things posted for the world to
see - along with your neon-lit cowardice and stunning lack of
professionalism, the latter two obviously having become obvious already.
--
The Atlas Bugged Experience
<http://kukpedia.notlong.com>
miguel
Perhaps because she's hoping you come to your senses and drop your
stupidarsed lawsuit? Yeah, I know, there's no chance you'll become
non-demented anytime soon.
>Some defendants have answered, and they get consideration. You are a worse
>convert to the AUK delusion than many others.
They get "consideration?" Who, really, should give a rat's ass about
consideration from you?
>A big part of AUK psychology is self-destructive behavior. You seem
>hell-bent on disgracing yourself, going so far as to brag of marrying one
>Usenet's least-respected trolls.
You are a fine one to talk about self-destructive behavior. LOL!
>You, instead, are about to find all sorts of things posted for the world to
>see - along with your neon-lit cowardice and stunning lack of
>professionalism, the latter two obviously having become obvious already.
She's not hiding anywhere. You're just too stupid to find her.
HTH stupid.
miguel
ps good job talking about your stupidarsed lawsuit on usenet,
stupidarse.
Kadaitcha Man
ye disclosed:
Oh, look. Libel.
--
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Now *there's* a shock.
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krp
"TNKev" <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gs5cbd$d4a$1...@aioe.org...
<YAWN> I should waste my time?
art_deco_...@yahoo.com
> In article <2o2tse.cjm.1...@news.alt.net>
SHUT THE FUCK UP, DECO !!
--
Colorado Carl
Russell Tavek
On 4/16/09 1:56 PM, in article 2o4h2h....@news.alt.net, "Meat Plow"
<me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> I don't hold anyone to anything, Fuckhead.
Gee, it looks like someone is a little bit upset that his buddies were
caught red-handed in a blatant act of netkkkopping, despite his earlier
insistence that we should all ignore "words on a screen."
Osterwald posted these original messages X-No-Archive: I figured I should
preserve them for posterity, so that history can look back on the day that
Carl "Art Deco" Osterwald received a spanking from Honest John and ran
crying for someone to put an icepack on his reddened ass cheeks.
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Recently I've had cause to contact CenturyTel.net concerning the
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in the Southern U.S. that farms their Usenet feed out to GigaNews.
Unfortunately, email to their X-Complaints-To abuse email address
appears to be routed to /dev/nul as they don't even generate an
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Does anyone know of a way to contact someone at CenturyTel who will
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In news.admin.net-abuse.usenet on Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:17:31 -0600, Art
Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote:
> Recently I've had cause to contact CenturyTel.net concerning the
> activities of one of their customers on Usenet. CenturyTel is an ISP
> in the Southern U.S. that farms their Usenet feed out to GigaNews.
> Unfortunately, email to their X-Complaints-To abuse email address
> appears to be routed to /dev/nul as they don't even generate an
> auto-response. GigaNews says that the problem is CenturyTel's.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to contact someone at CenturyTel who will
> take the time to investigate? GigaNews includes an NNTP-Posting-Host
> header, and the person apparently uses his real email address, so I
> can't see how an investigation would require much time.
Have you tried writing to
CenturyTel, Inc.
100 CenturyTel Dr
Monroe, LA 71203
US
or telephoning
or emailing
(who is the adminsitrative contact listed by WHOIS) ?
I'm aware of the CenturyTel customer to whom you're referring, but I'm
not aware that his activities amount to abuse OF the net, though his
abuse of you ON the net may well land him in prison if you choose to
pursue the matter. Unless he's perpetrating abuse OF the net, NAN-AU
probably can't help much.
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>In news.admin.net-abuse.usenet on Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:17:31 -0600, Art
>Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Recently I've had cause to contact CenturyTel.net concerning the
>> activities of one of their customers on Usenet. CenturyTel is an ISP
>> in the Southern U.S. that farms their Usenet feed out to GigaNews.
>> Unfortunately, email to their X-Complaints-To abuse email address
>> appears to be routed to /dev/nul as they don't even generate an
>> auto-response. GigaNews says that the problem is CenturyTel's.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to contact someone at CenturyTel who will
>> take the time to investigate? GigaNews includes an NNTP-Posting-Host
>> header, and the person apparently uses his real email address, so I
>> can't see how an investigation would require much time.
>
>Have you tried writing to
>
> CenturyTel, Inc.
> 100 CenturyTel Dr
> Monroe, LA 71203
> US
Yes.
>
>or telephoning
>
> (318) 388-9000
>
>or emailing
>
> chris....@centurytel.com
>
>(who is the adminsitrative contact listed by WHOIS) ?
No, and no. Thanks for the suggestions.
>
>
>I'm aware of the CenturyTel customer to whom you're referring, but I'm
>not aware that his activities amount to abuse OF the net, though his
>abuse of you ON the net may well land him in prison if you choose to
>pursue the matter. Unless he's perpetrating abuse OF the net, NAN-AU
>probably can't help much.
I was just hoping for some pointers, rather than blasting into town
demanding a UDP as so many are wont of doing. CenturyTel has a
somewhat restrictive AUP, BTW:
<http://support.centurytel.net/index.cfm?action=centurytel.support.legal
:ADDENDUM A
:ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY
:1. General Policy. CenturyTel reserves the sole discretion to
:deny or restrict your Service, or immediately to suspend or
:terminate your Service, if the use of your Service by you or
:anyone using it, in our sole discretion, violates the Agreement
:or other CenturyTel policies, is objectionable or unlawful,
:interferes with the functioning or use of the Internet or the
:CenturyTel network by CenturyTel or other users, or violates the
:terms of this Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP").
:2. Specific Examples of AUP Violations. The following are
:examples of conduct which may lead to termination of your
:Service. Without limiting the general policy in Section 1, it is
:a violation of the Agreement and this AUP to: (a) access without
:permission or right the accounts or computer systems of others,
:to spoof the URL, DNS or IP addresses of CenturyTel or any other
:entity, or to penetrate the security measures of CenturyTel or
:any other person's computer system, or to attempt any of the
:foregoing; (b) transmit uninvited communications, data or
:information, or engage in other similar activities, including
:without limitation, "spamming", "flaming" or denial of service
:attacks; (c) intercept, interfere with or redirect email or
:other transmissions sent by or to others; (d) introduce viruses,
:worms, harmful code or Trojan horses on the Internet; (e) post
:offtopic information on message boards, chat rooms or social
:networking sites; (f) engage in conduct that is defamatory,
:fraudulent, obscene or deceptive; (g) violate CenturyTel's or
:any third party's copyright, trademark, proprietary or other
:intellectual property rights; (h) engage in any conduct harmful
:to the CenturyTel network, the Internet generally or other
:Internet users; (i) generate excessive amounts of email or other
:Internet traffic; (j) use the Service to violate any rule,
:policy or guideline of CenturyTel; or (k) use the Service in any
:fashion for the transmission or dissemination of images
:containing child pornography or in a manner that is obscene,
:sexually explicit, cruel or racist in nature or which espouses,
:promotes or incites bigotry, hatred or racism.
--
Official Art Deco Post
Russell Tavek
On 4/16/09 2:41 PM, in article 2o4jl7....@news.alt.net, "Meat Plow"
<me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:32:11 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
> <greg...@home.fake>wrote:
>
>> These creeps get scummier and scummier as time passes. Freaking netKKKops
>> and organized, bogus abuse complaint, letter writers! Imagine that, trying
>> to get HJ booted from his ISP just because he calls them a bunch of fat fags
>> (which they seem to me to be without a doubt).
>>
>> That's why anybody who goes up against these creeps should consider getting
>> an account with Altopia. They can send in a million bogus complaints and all
>> that will happen is they will be automatically round-filed after being
>> laughed at.
>
> So you're saying that Altopia is the place for fuckheads like you and
> doesn't process complaints?
>
> Let's see what Chris has to say about this Greggy. Chris and I have
> been friends for many years and I'm sure he would like to know which
> one of his customers is slurring his name.
>
> CC'd to ab...@altopia.com
BWAAHAHAAHAAA!!!
The stAUKers are so spanked that they have to resort to netkkkopping,
despite their piteous whimpers about "it's only words on a screen" when the
process server shows up.
I'm betting you'll get as much satisfaction from Caputo as Osterwald is
getting from CenturyTel, or Eddie Wollman gets from, well, just about
anybody he complains to. And rightly so: saying that a news server will
ignore "bogus complaints" is a compliment, especially when dealing with a
gang of cyberbullies like yourselves.
Gregory Hall
Did you notice how Plow attempted to twist a compliment into a slur as if
anybody wouldn't notice his shabby, liberal, attempted re-write of history
tactics? Plow and his ilk are such morons that they think everybody is as
stupid as they are.
My fearless prediction is these people are so stupid that Atlas Bugged will
wipe the courtroom floor with the entire sorry lot of them.
--
Gregory Hall
Dead Kitten
>
>
> On 4/16/09 2:41 PM, in article 2o4jl7....@news.alt.net, "Meat Plow"
> <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:32:11 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
>> <greg...@home.fake>wrote:
>>
>>> These creeps get scummier and scummier as time passes. Freaking netKKKops
>>> and organized, bogus abuse complaint, letter writers! Imagine that, trying
>>> to get HJ booted from his ISP just because he calls them a bunch of fat fags
>>> (which they seem to me to be without a doubt).
>>>
>>> That's why anybody who goes up against these creeps should consider getting
>>> an account with Altopia. They can send in a million bogus complaints and all
>>> that will happen is they will be automatically round-filed after being
>>> laughed at.
>> So you're saying that Altopia is the place for fuckheads like you and
>> doesn't process complaints?
>>
>> Let's see what Chris has to say about this Greggy. Chris and I have
>> been friends for many years and I'm sure he would like to know which
>> one of his customers is slurring his name.
>>
>> CC'd to ab...@altopia.com
>
> BWAAHAHAAHAAA!!!
>
> The stAUKers are so spanked that they have to resort to netkkkopping,
> despite their piteous whimpers about "it's only words on a screen" when the
> process server shows up.
Besides that, he's wrong. Greg said BOGUS complaints, not all complaints.
And I can confirm that Altopia does in fact ignore bogus complaints.
They take legitimate complaints seriously, but bogus ones fall on deaf
ears. I know this because I was an Altopia customer for years and years
and had many a netkkkop unsuccessfully try to get them to shut me up.
(Only reason I dropped them was because I can get what I want without
shelling out $12 a month or whatever they were charging at the time.)
Linda
> Linda wrote:
> > On Apr 14, 11:32 am, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> krp wrote:
>
> >>> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:d45bb31f-d644-41fc...@y34g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Apr 10, 6:04 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> NO ONE in AUK is conspiring with Roger or Wills; they've been
> >>>>>> disenfranchised.
> >>>>> One WONDERS WHY
> >>>> < To buy themselves some time.
> >>>> I note that while they SAY they have disenfranchised Wills - they NEVER
> >>>> really attack him. Isn't that funny?
> >>> < Expedience dictates what the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers "say" from day
> >>> <to day.
> >>> They have "SAID" that Wills and Roger have been disenfranchised yet
> >>> they never REALLY answer them, and sometimes SIDE with them.
> >>> < At the moment, it's expedient for the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers to
> >>> < denounce a couple of their foot soldiers in the topical forums.
> >>> Everyone knows, by now, that it's disingenuous though.
> >> Kenny, usenet is nothing.
>
> > Your substituting a false issue for the actual issue is duly noted.
>
> the actual issue is you taking this idiocy seriously.
I beg your pardon?
I hail from topical forums where the "rotten eggs" who routinely
rendered nyms/names of subscribers to the SPP/AUK Stalkers for LARTing
are far more sinister individuals then One True Roger, Kent Wills,
and/or you appear to be.
For example, the "rotten egg" who organized the Conspiracy To
Blackmail and Terrorism of myself and other subscribers to the initial
topical forum I subscribed to had come to our topical forum directly
from alt.binaries.pictures.asparagus, a child pornography forum
which had been deemed unlawful by multiple courts around the world.
The "rotten eggs" cybersquatting in the child related topical forums
which the aforementioned "rotten egg" cyberstalked me into,
included, but, was not limited to, a convicted child molester,
pedarestic SMBD FAQ authors, a sex phone proprietor and porno author,
and one or more of the clinically disturbed females who were the
subject of the pornography plastered in the alt.sex and alt.polyamory
forums, an unprosecuted serial child molester and subject of
Merrillee Sullivan's book, etc., ad nauseum, ad infinitum
Now, the "rotten eggs" cybersquatting in child related topical
forums weren't casual subscribers of child related topical forums.
All but one of the "rotten eggs" I described above are, along with a
disbarred attorney, the primary author and/or primary contributors
to the Four Offical FAQ's for one of the child related topical forums
these "rotten egg" cybersquatted in, as well as, one or more of
the authors/contributors to the Pedarestic SMBD FAQ which lists the
child related topical forum as among the venues it was to be
periodically published in.
Obviously, a group of "rotten eggs" cybersquatting in child related
topical forums would find it difficult to utilize child related
topical forums for their sinister agenda if everyone was discussing
the large group of "rotten eggs" cybersquatting in child related
topical forums.
These "rotten eggs" and their perv groupies engaged in a Conspiracy to
Blackmail aka Urban Terrorism to maintain the status quo on the child
related topical forum in question for more then a decade.
If and when their localized Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorism
failed to compel a subscriber to remain silent about the group of
rotten eggs cybersquatting in child related topical forums, the
names/nyms of subscribers were rendered to the SPP/AUK Criminal
Stalkers for net wide LARTing.
In fact, a sizable percentage of all names/nyms rendered to the SPP/
AUK Criminal Stalkers were rendered by, or, on behalf of the "rotten
eggs" cybersquatting in child related topical forums.
In the past, an untold number of psychologists, nurses, social
workers, and professionals from ancilliary fields placed their
licenses on the line by taking part in the Conspiracy To Blackmail /
Terrorize subscribers who discussed the sinister individuals
cybersquatting in child related topical forums, by virtue of the
psychologists, nurses, social workers et al conspiring to libel all
such individuals with FICTITIOUS psychiatric disorders.
At the moment, one or more of the parties to the Conspiracy to
Blackmail / Terrorize have been having Attorneys place their licenses
on the line by taking part in the Conspiracy to Blackmail and
Terrorize individuals whom the conspirators can't compel to remain
silent about the group of sinister individuals who cybersquatted in
the child related forum in question.
Over the years, the Conspirators routinely perpetrated acts of malice
which placed all the conspirators deep in the heart of Meg Meiers/Lori
Drew territory, what with licensed psychologists publicly
exhorting child advocates and/or the adult survivors of childhood
sexual abuse to suicide, and/or chartering, subscribing, and
posting to forums they gave titles like Brad.Jesness.Die.Die.Die.
In the current case, whoever created the NAMBLA group ad featuring CN
which Googles search engine popped/pops out first on CN, placed all
the conspirators taking part in the Conspiracy to Blackmail and
Terrorize CN deep in the heart of the Conspiracy To Blackmail / Urban
Terrorism territory carved out when a group of animal rights activists
were imprisoned for 4-11 for the catchall Conspiracy To Blackmail /
Urban Terrorism without any evidence ever being presented that any of
the individuals convicted perpetrated any of the criminal acts which
created the atmosphere of intimidation individual animal activists are
being sentenced to prison for.
> turn off your PC and it all goes away.
>
Urban myth!
Everyone who turned off their computers merely encouraged the "rotten
eggs" to carry on their Conspiracy To Blackmail and terrorize innocent
others.
The only thing which has ever made any of the "rotten eggs" go away,
is public scrutiny, like the public scrutiny the psychologists who
led the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalking Ring received as a result of the
wide dissemination of a series of cyberstalking reports where the
psychologists were featured because of their leading role in the SPP/
AUK Criminal Stalking Ring.
Now, Atlas Bugged has filed a civil lawsuit which is resulting in
public scrutiny of the much larger group of belligerants who had aided
and abetted the corrupt psychologists in their Conspiracy To Blackmail
and terrorize others.
Will the technosavvy bullies, malicious hackers, spamming anti-
spammers, malicious criminals and their bevy of clinically disturbed
perv groupies hold up under the glare of public scrutiny the civil
lawsuit is exposing them too, any better then the psychologists
featured in Wyatt Ehrenfels "Look Who's Stalking Now:
Psychologists..."?
>
>
> > The actual issue is all the malicious criminals and other
> > undesirables cybersquatting in topical usenet forums and engaging in
> > tortuous and criminal activities to control the flow of info so it's
> > favorable to their sinister agendas, AND, rendering the names/nyms
> > of anyone who doesn't go along with their tortuous and criminal
> > activities to the SPP/AUK Criminals Stalkers for LARTing.
>
> in other words someone was mean to you and now you are mad about it.
> turn off your PC and it all goes away.
>
>
>
> > The aspect of the issue which KRP and I were discussing is the
> > meaningless of the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers denouncing One True Roger
> > and Kent Wills as rotten eggs when A) nobody other then rotten eggs
> > routinely renders the names / nyms of others to the SPP/AUK Criminal
> > Stalking Ring, and, B) the SPP/AUK Criminal Stalkers proceeded with
> > their tortuous and criminal LARTing of AB.
>
> they don't like Kent and Roger in their club.........so? that was their
> way of separating themselves from what they believe is not the way
> someone in their click acts. It isn't as big a deal as you make it out
> to be. they "disenfranchised" me as well. I didn't know I was
> "franchised" who cares? Kenny is still an idiot.
The question is whether or not the named defendants can avoid civil
liability for the acts of malice of other conspirators by denouncing
the other conspirators as "rotten eggs" when, A) no one other then
"rotten eggs" has ever routinely rendered others names/nyms to the SPP/
AUK Stalkers for "LARTing", and, the SPP/AUK proceeds with it's
LARTing of the named individuals rendered to SPP/AUK no matter how
"rotten" the eggs are who routinely render other peoples names/nyms to
SPP/AUK.
Aratzio
"Kadaitcha Man" <inv...@invalid.invalid> got double secret probation
for writing:
Just be thankful he did not libel Lynne Lyons or she would have been
alerted by Google.
Bob Larter
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:32:11 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
> <greg...@home.fake>wrote:
>
>> and organized, bogus abuse complaint, letter writers! Imagine that, trying
>> to get HJ booted from his ISP just because he calls them a bunch of fat fags
>> (which they seem to me to be without a doubt).
>>
>> That's why anybody who goes up against these creeps should consider getting
>> an account with Altopia. They can send in a million bogus complaints and all
>> that will happen is they will be automatically round-filed after being
>> laughed at.
>
> doesn't process complaints?
>
> Let's see what Chris has to say about this Greggy. Chris and I have
> been friends for many years and I'm sure he would like to know which
> one of his customers is slurring his name.
>
> CC'd to ab...@altopia.com
>
> Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,misc.legal
> Subject: Re: Welcome to misc.legal
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:32:11 -0400
> Organization: Overqualified for MENSA
> Lines: 53
> Message-ID: <2o2290....@news.alt.net>
Chris definitely doesn't roundfile complaints 'automatically'. Back when
I was an Altopia user, he talked to me about a couple of complaints
people made about me, after I'd pushed the grey areas of his AUP.
Bob Larter
That's fortunate, because we wouldn't want Lynne Lyons to know what
we're posting.
Bob Larter
> Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com>, scribbled in: alt.usenet.kooks
> I too have had the discussion with CC both in email and in
> forum. In a nutshell CC will not entertain whines on "behavior"
> as a stand alone "gripe".
> However.. and this is important to chew on slowly,, CC
> indicates a very liberal (extreme small L) administration
> of his server. Virtually providing a haven for the 'badgered'
> and extreme views of minority radicals among us.
> Try "free speech" .. if you like.
Exactly.
> pHucker is a fine example of both the above ..errr.. traits<g>
Something like that. ;^)
> To use his 'generosity' to proactively invoke actions which
> restrict the free speech of others..?.. there is a problem.
> This is why gregoryBhouy 'behaves' from Altrolia.. he knows,
> he has been _told_. I have seen posts to this effect with
> Hall playing turtle immediately after.
Indeed.
> CC will no doubt chime in should I be "canoeing".
I'm sure he will.
> As Hall was not born yesterday
> (he learnt much in AFN in 2008)
> you will see his re[]action in using REMs and hijacking
> anon Free Server accounts to post the real poison.
Exactly. He's been doing that for some time now.
PS: And a big "Hello" to Lynne Lyons, AKA "Goofy",
who's watching this from Google ALerts!
TNKev
>> I would so thoroughly enjoy to see you make an attempt at proving I am
>> another person.
>
> <YAWN> I should waste my time?
>
waste time making a fool of yourself? not you! no way!
krp
King John I of AUK
<art_deco_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Atta-Boi Carl !!
--
KHJ
King John I of AUK
"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:2o4h2h....@news.alt.net...
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:10:48 -0400, Russell Tavek
> <restavek...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >On 4/15/09 2:10 PM, in article 2o1tfh.o...@news.alt.net, "Meat
Plow"
> ><me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I've come into your home, cast my writings onto your computer
screen
> >> while forcibly holding your head towards it and forcing your eyes
open
> >> while screaming READ MY POSTS relentlessly in your ear all the
while
> >> holding you at gunpoint threatening to shoot if you didn't read my
> >> posts.
> >>
> >> Yep I'm the bad one that needed to carry a warning sign that said
DO
> >> NOT READ around.
> >
about
> >that. They're the ones calling up CenturyTel's corporate
headquarters and
> >bombarding the WHOIS contacts with complaints in an effort to silence
a
> >poster who appears to be guilty of nothing more than unending fag
lames. But
> >of course, like all the AUK Sociopaths, you have difficulty holding
yourself
> >and your friends to the same standards you'd like everyone else to
follow.
>
Yes you can, Fuckhead !!
--
KHJ
King John I of AUK
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:01:09 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> <ni...@databasix.com>wrote:
>
> >Meat Plow wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:43:17 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> >> <ni...@databasix.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Meat Plow wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:19:42 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> >>>> <ni...@databasix.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Rob Wolfe has never treated me ill, and I have no reason not to
> >>>>> treat him in a friendly manner.
> >>>>
> >>>> This takes me back to a day a year or so ago when this identical
> >>>> sentence (substitute the name with a certain Tom's River NJ
> >>>> resident) was directed towards a friendly warning from me. Too
bad
> >>>> said warning was never heeded.
> >>>>
> >>>> :(
> >>>
> >>> Too bad no one ever warned me about you.
> >>
> >> I've come into your home, cast my writings onto your computer
screen
> >> while forcibly holding your head towards it and forcing your eyes
open
> >> while screaming READ MY POSTS relentlessly in your ear all the
while
> >> holding you at gunpoint threatening to shoot if you didn't read my
> >> posts.
> >>
> >> Yep I'm the bad one that needed to carry a warning sign that said
DO
> >> NOT READ around.
> >>
> >> That does make more sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> .....heh
> >
> >Very few people actually buy the bs that "it's only words on the
> >screen." Go ask a real person who lives in the real world what s/he
> >thinks. You're so immersed in auk culture that you've lost all
> >compassion for your fellow humans. I'm not an anthropologist by any
> >stretch of the imagination, but even I recognize primitive tribal
> >behavior when I see it.
> >
> >How does it feel to be a knuckle-dragger?
>
> the term "knuckle-dragger" to try to insult someone. It was around
> 1997 and was one of my first flames.
>
> >Besides which, if words on the screen really have no meaning, then
I'd
> >not have objected to Novins' ill words on the screen. Moreover, he
and I
> >would still be friends, and I would not even be a party to this
> >ridiculous lawsuit.
>
> defamation unless calling you a cunt was defamation. I'm a very good
> judge of people on first impulse and I had your Benedict Arnold pegged
> as a dangerous sociopath and warned you and others to distance
> themselves.
>
> I agree this suit is ridiculous but as ridiculous as it may be it's
> still going to cost people money to rectify it which is all the
> plaintiff wanted in the first place. As far as the libel part goes I
> hope those that were responsible for it are found and prosecuted.
> Trying to ruin ones lively hood over Usenet flames is lower than low
> and no one of the AUK regulars or Kookologists as known otherwise
> would have ever crossed that line.
>
> So there you have it. Rebut as you may (after all you're the one who
> must have the last word) I shall not read or reply.
I'll take the "Last Word", Twinkie-Boi.
If you were served legal papers thaen you would change your "tune" about
the "Big Ko0kologist" suit.
We wuldn't read your posts as you would be hiding under your bed like
your pals Osterwald, Cannon, and Pinky Sue !!
Have a Happy & Fat life, retard...
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KHJ