Implications of Novins vs. Cannon et al
Gregory Hall
Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
lawsuit against the named defendants are seeing a far different outcome than
the defendants who are so delusional that they think they are going to get
away, Scott free and live for the day when they can return to AUK and go
full speed ahead with their organized defamation. Boy, are they ever in for
a BIG comeuppance!
This lawsuit has huge implications. It is likely to change the face of
Usenet and the Internet in general. It has such far-reaching implications
that it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up going all the way to the Supreme
court as a freedom of speech issue should the defendants get the financial
backing to pursue appeals to that august level. But, working against them is
no civil rights organization with deep pockets would choose to associate
with such disgusting hateful rabble.
Mr. Novins has everything to gain and nothing to lose while the defendants
have everything to lose and nothing to gain. It is the classic win/win
situation for the good attorney, Novins. I bet the man plays a mighty mean
game of snooker! It really amazes me how clueless the defendants seem to be.
If it weren't for the fact that their attorneys have placed a gag order on
them under penalty of breach of contract, I'm sure these idiots would have
been here all along compounding the same folly that placed them in the
no-win situation they now find themselves in.
This tells me that their attorneys are taking things VERY seriously and
these attorneys know full well they will have to be very lucky and very
skillful as well as to gag order their clients if they expect to have even
the slightest chance of their clients being found not guilty. Theirs is a
close to impossible task and they know it.
--
Gregory Hall
miguel
wrote:
It seems to me that Mr. Novins has pretty much gone off his rocker.
You'd be a better person if you didn't encourage him toward his
career's demise.
anony....@yahoo.com
Is this the same Mr. Novins whose lawsuit targets a hundred different
people and a hundred different companies for one post made by one
individual? I believe he would fare better if he sued the individual
who made the post, but then what do I know, I'm just an anonymous
sockpuppet and your post was rhetorical, inflammatory, and intended
merely to provoke the defendants.
My bad!
walter
It seems to me you shouldn't give a fuck as it pertains to AB's sanity given
your history in AUK. Right, my fellow "circle-jerk" nominee?
What's up with that, Miguel?
walter
> The sunset of a nutter career is pretty sad, especially when he
takes a lot of my AUK playmates away from me all at once. Right, "Hugh"?
miguel
wrote:
I have my reasons. They satisfy me.
walter
Fair enough.
"The Honest One"
<anony....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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who made the post, but then what do I know [NOTHING]..
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No it wasn't about just one poster and one post.....
It was about Carl Osterwald taking the information in said post and
reposting that post and trying to smear a fine and upstanding lawyer in
New Jersey.
It was about Pinky Sue Lamb taking the information in said post and
reposting that post and trying to smear a fine and upstanding lawyer in
New Jersey.
It was about KA Cannon taking the information in said post and reposting
that post and trying to smear a fine and upstanding lawyer in New
Jersey.
Study.....study......
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HJ
Aratzio
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
writing:
>Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
>lawsuit
Are idiots.
Gregory Hall
news:jjtmv4lv2s3mtt54r...@4ax.com...
Nope! The idiots are the Rubes listed as defendants. Bwahahahahhahahhaha.
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Gregory Hall
Aratzio
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
writing:
>"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:jjtmv4lv2s3mtt54r...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:35:43 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>>Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
>>>lawsuit
>>
>> Are idiots.
>
>
>
>Nope! The idiots are the Rubes listed as defendants. Bwahahahahhahahhaha.
As the clock ticks down to Gweggies supwise.
This is going to be hilarious.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Ya think? <snicker>
> Bwahahahahhahahhaha.
That would be my estimation of your situation.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
atlas bugged
news:2pbqdf....@news.alt.net...
Quite apart from the suit you reference, the mob is out there with
pitchforks and torches.
The CDA itself was a notoriously bad POS bit of legislation - but parts of
it remain in force now.
So don't expect, as the article notes, that the proposed law will simply be
tossed.
And last week, SCOTUS re-affirmed the abominable FCC v. Pacifica decision
(George Carlin's seven dirty words censorship case.) This was completely
unexpected, and squeezed by with one vote.
The suit is obviously focused on a few reprobates unwilling to live within
the law, but the proposed law would take a blunt hammer to all speech.
It's easy to predict where this is going, the reaction to it, and so on.
--
The Atlas Bugged Experience
<http://kukpedia.notlong.com>
"The Honest One"
> On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:30:33 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
> writing:
>
> >"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> >news:jjtmv4lv2s3mtt54r...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:35:43 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> >> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
> >> writing:
> >>
> >>>Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins,
Esq.'s
> >>>lawsuit
> >>
> >> Are idiots.
> >
> >
> >
> >Nope! The idiots are the Rubes listed as defendants.
Bwahahahahhahahhaha.
>
> --
> Roz Ratzio
Glad you grew a "pair" and started posting 24/7 disinformation like your
leader PJR ordered you to !!
--
HJ
"The Honest One"
> --
> Roz Ratzio
IAWTP !!
--
HJ
Bob Larter
Poor old Gweggie. He just can't win.
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Bob Larter
Are you proud of your legal battle to defeat free speech?
Aratzio
Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
>Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 May 2009 18:30:33 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>> "Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:jjtmv4lv2s3mtt54r...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:35:43 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
>>>> writing:
>>>>
>>>>> Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
>>>>> lawsuit
>>>> Are idiots.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope! The idiots are the Rubes listed as defendants. Bwahahahahhahahhaha.
>>
>> As the clock ticks down to Gweggies supwise.
>>
>> This is going to be hilarious.
>
>Poor old Gweggie. He just can't win.
But he will be getting a nice *consolation* prize.
Aratzio
>atlas bugged wrote:
He is very much a fan of hearing his own incontinent blather.
I do wonder, these people he named in his kook soot, the ones that
never posted in the threqd listed as "exhibit A", how does he plan to
prove they posted "copies" of something they obviously did not. He
claims he will be working in uncharted legal territory, but I am
pretty sure that obvious provable lies are a bad thing in court.
"The Honest One"
Let the experts worry about that, you poofter !!
--
HJ
"The Honest One"
You "EVIL Haters" quit trying to scare Greg !!
--
HJ
Gregory Hall
news:2pcm8b....@news.alt.net...
That's not good news but it looks to me like the liberals are overreaching
again. The frightening part, though, is liberal judges who might abuse such
a law.
>
> Quite apart from the suit you reference, the mob is out there with
> pitchforks and torches.
Dumbass liberals seem to think they're immune from their own crap.
>
> The CDA itself was a notoriously bad POS bit of legislation - but parts of
> it remain in force now.
More Big Brother liberalism seeping into our everyday lives. Live TV and
Radio can't really be live anymore. Everything's going to have to have a 15
second delay and a dump button just because somebody might say "Shit!" or
"Fuck!" Fucking ridiculous this fetish about certain words. Especially
words that are exclamations and have no relationship to the legal definition
of obscene.
When somebody exclaims "Shit" or "Fuck" feces and sex is the furthest thing
from their mind.
>
> So don't expect, as the article notes, that the proposed law will simply
> be tossed.
The way so many courts are leftest havens you can't count on anything being
tossed. That idiot George Bush didn't veto the unconstitutional
McCain/Feingold BCRA because he was counting on the Supreme Court
overturning it but one freaking liberal too many caused that not to happen
so we now have more legislation that stifles political free speech.
>
> And last week, SCOTUS re-affirmed the abominable FCC v. Pacifica decision
> (George Carlin's seven dirty words censorship case.) This was completely
> unexpected, and squeezed by with one vote.
See comments above concerning the CDA.
>
> The suit is obviously focused on a few reprobates unwilling to live within
> the law, but the proposed law would take a blunt hammer to all speech.
There is a difference between the two for sure. The pendulum always swings
too far before it returns to a repositioned center and slowly but inexorably
that center moves left. This is why any democracy is doomed to failure after
a couple hundred years. People just don't live long enough and each new
generation wakes up in a world of fewer and fewer freedoms and more and more
statists. Pile more statists and fascists on each generation and the people
will accept it or at best beat it back to that which was the 'norm' when
they were in mid-life thinking they're doing some good and even this hard
work only slows down the inevitable leftist progression. Then it reaches a
point where it just all collapses into anarchy and then it perhaps will
start all over again. But nothing will be learned from it because people
live too short a life and people are ignorant, for the most part, of
history.
I'm afraid we have the misfortune of living in the end times of personal
freedom and personal responsibility.
>
> It's easy to predict where this is going, the reaction to it, and so on.
Sheeple to the slaughter.
--
Gregory Hall
nobody
> In article <2pbqdf....@news.alt.net>
> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>>
>> Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
>> lawsuit against the named defendants are seeing a far different outcome than
>> the defendants who are so delusional that they think they are going to get
>> away, Scott free and live for the day when they can return to AUK and go
>> full speed ahead with their organized defamation. Boy, are they ever in for
>> a BIG comeuppance!
>
>
>> This lawsuit has huge implications. It is likely to change the face of
>> Usenet and the Internet in general.
>
> talks about it. The one piece of evidence that Chucky is basing
> his lawsuit on, is going to wind up costing him dearly.
>
> It boils down to one question, Greggie, "Who done it?"
>
> Chucky can't prove who did, and neither can any expert he hires.
> All the expert can confirm is, who didn't.
>
nobody did it!!!
"The Honest One"
"Anonymous" <cri...@ecn.org> wrote in message
>
> It boils down to one question, Greggie, "Who done it?"
>
> Chucky can't prove who did, and neither can any expert he hires.
> All the expert can confirm is, who didn't.
It doesn't matter who threw the loaded gun in the "Gang's Headquarters",
what matters is which three Hoodlums took the loaded gun and actually
shot somebody with it !!
I doesn't matter who posted what originally, but the three idiots that
took said post (Osterwald, Lamb, & Cannon) and reposted and smeared a
Great lawyer from New Jersey !!
Quit listening to PJR & "Whinel Lionel" and their disinformation
campaign......
The Big Trial will straighten-out the three stooges.....
--
HJ
Gregory Hall
> In article <2pbqdf....@news.alt.net>
> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Those of us who have been following and supporting Mr. Novins, Esq.'s
>> lawsuit against the named defendants are seeing a far different outcome
>> than
>> the defendants who are so delusional that they think they are going to
>> get
>> away, Scott free and live for the day when they can return to AUK and go
>> full speed ahead with their organized defamation. Boy, are they ever in
>> for
>> a BIG comeuppance!
>
> Brown-nosing points awarded = 0.
>
>> This lawsuit has huge implications. It is likely to change the face of
>> Usenet and the Internet in general.
>
> Riiiight. Sure it is, for about the length of time everybody
> talks about it. The one piece of evidence that Chucky is basing
> his lawsuit on, is going to wind up costing him dearly.
>
>
> Chucky can't prove who did, and neither can any expert he hires.
> All the expert can confirm is, who didn't.
>
I see it differently. Atlas doesn't have to prove who wrote the original. It
doesn't matter who wrote the original. What will matter to the jurors is how
the original (which is an *obvious* forgery that is easily recognized as
such by any of the Usenet savvy defendants) was used by the defendants (who
knew full well it was a forgery and even have stated the same here in this
group many times) to defame Atlas Bugged, his employees and his business in
general while representing it as genuine and factual.
Stupid and criminal is what the average juror will probably think.
--
Gregory Hall
http://outingextremistanti-scientologists.blogspot.com/
art.colorad...@gmail.com
wrote:
I sure hope that the Big trial straightens me out!
--
Art Deco
§ñühw¤£f
> AB. ( and everyone else apparently). Too many thin-skinned people about,
> IMO.
>
When Chrissy Hind of the Pretenders was singing about Ohio it was really
a metaphor for how good things will always be changed for the worse by
people with power.
Its a human-driven form of entropy that can be summed up thusly:
anything pure and good will eventually be corrupted or ruined by the
hand of man.
FYI
HTH
HAND
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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
How did we do that?
None of the follow-ups contained the original text, and no one ever took
the position that it was true. I--and several other defendants--never
even participated in the thread.
> Stupid and criminal is what the average juror will probably think.
I wonder what they'll think of you?
Gregory Hall
news:2pfdlp....@news.alt.net...
I haven't noticed my name among the defendants.
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Gregory Hall
Aratzio
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
writing:
>"Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <ni...@databasix.com> wrote in message
Not yet.
Gregory Hall
Thanks, "Roz." I've been wondering what certain veiled threats and/or hints
had at their core.
I think I see the game now.
There is a countersuit already planned in which Novins and I will be named
as libelers for calling attention to Burnore's documented arrest record and
various and sundry tawdry asides. One problem I see with that is if Novins
cannot prevail in a case where a known forgery is used to libel him then how
can Burnore prevail when his arrest record is real and documented? You
cannot libel somebody with the truth.
--
Gregory Hall
Aratzio
Keep *thinking*, gweggie, that is how you got to where you are now.
>
>I think I see the game now.
No, you don't and I bet you can prove it below.
>
>There is a countersuit already planned in which Novins and I will be named
>as libelers for calling attention to Burnore's documented arrest record and
>various and sundry tawdry asides. One problem I see with that is if Novins
>cannot prevail in a case where a known forgery is used to libel him then how
>can Burnore prevail when his arrest record is real and documented? You
>cannot libel somebody with the truth.
Funny, I didn't mention Gary. I don't have any idea what are Gary's
plans, gweggie.
But I must say, as quick as you were to get all defensive and start
posturing, it sounds like Gary should file a counter claim. His case
would be a slam dunk, since what you wrote were outright lies and
republished lies in an attempt to damage Gary's business. Even after
you were informed of the facts in the matter you insisted on
continuing in your defamation of Gary and his business.
Since that is the basis for the novins soot with which you seem so
enamored, I'd say if novins wins, you are completely fucked. Damn, you
must feel like an even bigger idiot than usual.
Now, about all those lawyers fees you seemed to think were such a
wonderful adjunct to the novins kook soot, I wonder how much yours
will be. Maybe novins will take your case pro bono, but then we know
what novins thinks of pro bono work.
<Insert I am rich, I have a lawyer blah blah blah claim here>
Gregory Hall
The facts of the matter are archived photocopies of court documents. Not
hearsay from any of you twits.
>
> Since that is the basis for the novins soot with which you seem so
> enamored, I'd say if novins wins, you are completely fucked. Damn, you
> must feel like an even bigger idiot than usual.
You don't read too well. You just don't seem to understand that Novins was
libeled using known bogus information while Burnore was 'truthed' with links
to original legal and court documents. So "WHEN" Novins prevails it sets no
prededent at all as you seem to imagine.
>
> Now, about all those lawyers fees you seemed to think were such a
> wonderful adjunct to the novins kook soot, I wonder how much yours
> will be. Maybe novins will take your case pro bono, but then we know
> what novins thinks of pro bono work.
>
> <Insert I am rich, I have a lawyer blah blah blah claim here>
Novins would be my first choice as attorney since he's more familiar with
the records than anybody else. Plus, he's an obvious winner.
--
Gregory Hall
Aratzio
Just keep lying gweg, I am sure you will build up that damaged
confidence.
All you have to do is look at your reaction to two words above. That
explains just how nervous you really are.
>
>>
>> Since that is the basis for the novins soot with which you seem so
>> enamored, I'd say if novins wins, you are completely fucked. Damn, you
>> must feel like an even bigger idiot than usual.
>
>You don't read too well. You just don't seem to understand that Novins was
>libeled using known bogus information while Burnore was 'truthed' with links
>to original legal and court documents. So "WHEN" Novins prevails it sets no
>prededent at all as you seem to imagine.
I'll bet you have never actually read novins complaint. Given you self
proffessed expertise, you can of course find the copies that novins
references in his complaint, right. Since you claim to know the case,
here is yourr opportunity to lay out how the complaint is valid. Go
ahead, start with a mid to any copy that any defendant posted
<MID GOES HERE>
Watch the coward avoid that one.
>
>
>>
>> Now, about all those lawyers fees you seemed to think were such a
>> wonderful adjunct to the novins kook soot, I wonder how much yours
>> will be. Maybe novins will take your case pro bono, but then we know
>> what novins thinks of pro bono work.
>>
>> <Insert I am rich, I have a lawyer blah blah blah claim here>
>
>Novins would be my first choice as attorney since he's more familiar with
>the records than anybody else. Plus, he's an obvious winner.
BWAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAA
Which of course explains him being a one man practice in a small new
jerset town. All those really sucessful winners are just like Paul
Newman in "The Verdict".
Oh, and then you would have to tell novins the truth. Boy, will that
be embarrassing.
So about those fees? You seemed to have avoided that point. Wonder why
that is.
TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK
Poor gweggie, your whole facade crubling slowly before your own eyes.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
He certainly was quick to jump.
>> But I must say, as quick as you were to get all defensive and start
>> posturing, it sounds like Gary should file a counter claim. His case
>> would be a slam dunk, since what you wrote were outright lies and
>> republished lies in an attempt to damage Gary's business. Even after
>> you were informed of the facts in the matter you insisted on
>> continuing in your defamation of Gary and his business.
>
> The facts of the matter are archived photocopies of court documents.
> Not hearsay from any of you twits.
The facts of the matter--if it comes to that--are your very own posts.
>> Since that is the basis for the novins soot with which you seem so
>> enamored, I'd say if novins wins, you are completely fucked. Damn,
>> you must feel like an even bigger idiot than usual.
>
> You don't read too well. You just don't seem to understand that
> Novins was libeled using known bogus information while Burnore was
> 'truthed' with links to original legal and court documents.
The libel isn't the links, Greg.
> So
> "WHEN" Novins prevails it sets no prededent at all as you seem to
> imagine.
<snicker>
>> Now, about all those lawyers fees you seemed to think were such a
>> wonderful adjunct to the novins kook soot, I wonder how much yours
>> will be. Maybe novins will take your case pro bono, but then we know
>> what novins thinks of pro bono work.
>>
>> <Insert I am rich, I have a lawyer blah blah blah claim here>
>
> Novins would be my first choice as attorney since he's more familiar
> with the records than anybody else. Plus, he's an obvious winner.
Troll or lunatic? Sometimes, I just can't tell, Greg.
Gregory Hall
in message
news:3cbc286a597b1376...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> In article <2pf152....@news.alt.net>
> did, and just choose not to remember it. There's a lot of your
> "style" in that post. Sneak attack, sockpuppetry,
> misinformation, inflammatory etc. The sort of thing you're
> always doing using any number of socks.
Yes, I admit it. I posted it. I've known 'Atlas Bugged' for years. As a
matter of fact Atlas is another sock puppet of mine. It was all a set-up to
entice the AUKer bullies to use it to defame "Atlas" while I worked in
league with my sock puppet with a law degree to fleece all of them of their
entire combined fortunes of 759 dollars and some change.
Good grief, but you and the others must listen to George Noree all night
long while you smoke pot.
>
>> Stupid and criminal is what the average juror will probably think.
>
> They aren't as stupid or biased as you and the other thought
> police. They'll probably look at it as a bunch of old kids
> having a pissing contest that got out of hand. AB isn't too
> bright, or he would have never placed himself and his "business"
> in jeopardy by playing kid games in a news group, and using his
> personal info.
It was not Atlas who put his business in jeopardy. It was the willing
libelers who did that and he would be remiss if he failed to defend his
business from the creep caballers.
> If I was a juror, I'd sure be looking at it from
> that aspect. Ultimately it doesn't matter whether he wins this
> case or not. The negative publicity he'll get will do more harm
> than it will good if it ever hits the blogosphere as a matter of
> interest. He'll love the misinformation they crank out for
> Google to find.
Negative publicity from a win? The only way he can't win is if he decides to
have mercy on the losers and reach some kind of amicable out-of-court
settlement which I don't think any of the parties are amenible to at this
stage.
> Considering lawyers are some of the most despised people in the
> world, it wouldn't be too farfetched to think a jury might stick
> it to AB just for the hell of it.
You seem to forget that in the courtroom setting that lawyers are in charge.
Judges are their friends. Juries are often beguiled by them.
--
Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
<big snip of repeats>
>Just keep lying gweg, I am sure you will build up that damaged
> confidence.
Bwaahahahhahahahhahahaha.
> All you have to do is look at your reaction to two words above. That
> explains just how nervous you really are.
Yes, I'm shaking so hard that if I were wearing those high heels that you
wear I'd be falling right off of them.
http://www.ren.org/rafil/gpc/gpcpics/DSCF0002a.jpg
> I'll bet you have never actually read novins complaint. Given you self
> proffessed expertise, you can of course find the copies that novins
> references in his complaint, right. Since you claim to know the case,
> here is yourr opportunity to lay out how the complaint is valid. Go
> ahead, start with a mid to any copy that any defendant posted
What I think about it is of no consequence as I will not be the judge nor
will I be a jury member.
Oh, about those fees. I'd be happy to support Mr. Novins, Esquire in this
worthy cause.
--
Gregory Hall
Aratzio
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> got double secret probation for
writing:
>"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:082qv41vvce1dpsrb...@4ax.com...
><big cowardly snip>
(I fixed that for a more accurate depiction of your action)
>>Just keep lying gweg, I am sure you will build up that damaged
>> confidence.
>
>Bwaahahahhahahahhahahaha.
What's the matter gweggie, no pithy comments? No bragging about how
smart you are and how well you understand novins case? What a sudden
change of tactic for you, couldn't be you realized just how fucked you
are.
>
>
>> All you have to do is look at your reaction to two words above. That
>> explains just how nervous you really are.
>
>Yes, I'm shaking so hard that if I were wearing those high heels that you
>wear I'd be falling right off of them.
>
>http://www.ren.org/rafil/gpc/gpcpics/DSCF0002a.jpg
Poor little gweggie, all he has left is the delusional ad hominem.
Just keep up that false bravado, I am sure clockbrain and novins
believe you.
(Now if that doesn't shake hin to the core)
>
>> I'll bet you have never actually read novins complaint. Given you self
>> proffessed expertise, you can of course find the copies that novins
>> references in his complaint, right. Since you claim to know the case,
>> here is yourr opportunity to lay out how the complaint is valid. Go
>> ahead, start with a mid to any copy that any defendant posted
>
>What I think about it is of no consequence as I will not be the judge nor
>will I be a jury member.
>
>Oh, about those fees. I'd be happy to support Mr. Novins, Esquire in this
>worthy cause.
And as predicted, gweggie runs away like the cowardly little pussy he
is:
:>You don't read too well. You just don't seem to understand that Novins was
:>libeled using known bogus information while Burnore was 'truthed' with links
:>to original legal and court documents. So "WHEN" Novins prevails it sets no
:>prededent at all as you seem to imagine.
:
:I'll bet you have never actually read novins complaint. Given you self
:proffessed expertise, you can of course find the copies that novins
:references in his complaint, right. Since you claim to know the case,
:here is yourr opportunity to lay out how the complaint is valid. Go
:ahead, start with a mid to any copy that any defendant posted
:
:<MID GOES HERE>
:
:Watch the coward avoid that one.
Gweggie, cornered by the facts had nothing left but ad hominem and the
snip & run.
Anyone surprised he ran?
You know, you should consider Canada, swine flu makes Mexico a less
desirable choice these days.
Did you miss this part too, Gweggie?
:Which of course explains him being a one man practice in a small new
:jerset town. All those really sucessful winners are just like Paul
:Newman in "The Verdict".
:
:Oh, and then you would have to tell novins the truth. Boy, will that
:be embarrassing.
:
:So about those fees? You seemed to have avoided that point. Wonder why
:that is.
:
:TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK
:
:Poor gweggie, your whole facade crubling slowly before your own eyes.
How's the finances, cupcake? You feeling a little pinched by the
economy? Maybe you should have planned a little better.
Here is part of a post I made a few years ago (just the first 4):
>Never learn from your mistakes.
>Always practice your mistakes; you may get them right.
>Always pick on those smarter and tougher than you.
>Always believe that only you know the TRVTH.
It was called "The Way Of The Kook". Amazing how many of you kooks
just follow the playbook that we wrote for you.
Gregory Hall
Look at her foam, folks! Bwahahahhahahahahaha.
--
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Aratzio
<Gweggie baling for all he is worth>
>Look at her foam, folks! Bwahahahhahahahahaha.
And yet, the self described expert on the novins kook soot can't even
answer the most basic question.
Hey, Gweggies, will you be crowing about your *knowledge* anymore?
Here is tonight's hint for the dumb kid:
That was mostly cut and paste, you really should at least make a
minimal attempt to have your reading make sense.
Now, declare you won by running away.
Bob Larter
> On Sat, 02 May 2009 20:24:00 +1000, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for
> writing:
>
>>> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
>>> news:2pbqdf....@news.alt.net...
>>>> lawsuit against the named defendants are seeing a far different
>>>> outcome than the defendants who are so delusional that they think they
>>>> are going to get away, Scott free and live for the day when they can
>>>> return to AUK and go full speed ahead with their organized defamation.
>>>> Boy, are they ever in for a BIG comeuppance!
>>>>
>
> I do wonder, these people he named in his kook soot, the ones that
> never posted in the threqd listed as "exhibit A", how does he plan to
> prove they posted "copies" of something they obviously did not. He
> claims he will be working in uncharted legal territory, but I am
> pretty sure that obvious provable lies are a bad thing in court.
The fact that he's representing himself says it all.
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Too bad for AtlasBuggered that it isn't true.
> Stupid and criminal is what the average juror will probably think.
About AtlasBuggered? - Yes, I expect so.
Bob Larter
My god, you really are as stupid as everyone says you are.
Bob Larter
I notice that you can't answer any of 'Ratz's points, Gweggie. ;^)
Aratzio
Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
Yep, he an novins were informed multiple times tha their actions were
of a defamatory nature and that the information they were using was a
known falsehood. This did not deter them, specifically gweggie, in his
quixotic attempt to get revenge against Databasix and Gary for kicking
his ass to the curb.
CDA230 does not protect you once you have been notified that the
information is false and defamatory.
Russell Tavek
On 5/2/09 10:29 PM, in article 2pfl2t....@news.alt.net, "Gregory Hall"
<greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>> But I must say, as quick as you were to get all defensive and start
>> posturing, it sounds like Gary should file a counter claim. His case
>> would be a slam dunk, since what you wrote were outright lies and
>> republished lies in an attempt to damage Gary's business. Even after
>> you were informed of the facts in the matter you insisted on
>> continuing in your defamation of Gary and his business.
>
> The facts of the matter are archived photocopies of court documents. Not
> hearsay from any of you twits.
If push came to shove, it would be a simple enough matter to subpoena
Rachael Baldacci (now Carey) and her mother, Nancy Baldacci, and ask them to
testify on the facts of Gary's little misadventure. I doubt that any jury
would be very sympathetic to Burnore's counterclaim after hearing from his
victims. Truth is an absolute defense against libel and all that.
I'm certain Mr. Novins realizes this: I'm also pretty sure that Gary knows
this as well. He pled guilty to annoying and molesting a minor rather than
facing his victim in court: does he really want to deal with her testimony
now? And, of course, those documents would then become part of the public
record, thereby putting the lie to the constant "forgery" yammering from
Gropin' Gary and his Gang of Goons.
If Gary is smart, he'll make a settlement with Novins and slink away rather
than have public attention cast on his his lack of impulse control and Woody
Allen-esque ethics. But of course if Gary were smart he wouldn't have made a
pass at his girlfriend's 17-year old daughter. So it's anyone's guess how
this is going to turn out.
"The Honest One"
"Russell Tavek" <restavek...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for all this valuable info !!
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ah
No surprise there, really.
>
> You know, you should consider Canada, swine flu makes Mexico a less
> desirable choice these days.
>
> Did you miss this part too, Gweggie?
> :Which of course explains him being a one man practice in a small new
> :jerset town. All those really sucessful winners are just like Paul
> :Newman in "The Verdict".
> :
> :Oh, and then you would have to tell novins the truth. Boy, will that
> :be embarrassing.
> :
> :So about those fees? You seemed to have avoided that point. Wonder why
> :that is.
> :
> :TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK
> :
> :Poor gweggie, your whole facade crubling slowly before your own eyes.
>
> How's the finances, cupcake? You feeling a little pinched by the
> economy? Maybe you should have planned a little better.
>
> Here is part of a post I made a few years ago (just the first 4):
>>Never learn from your mistakes.
>>Always practice your mistakes; you may get them right.
>>Always pick on those smarter and tougher than you.
>>Always believe that only you know the TRVTH.
>
> It was called "The Way Of The Kook". Amazing how many of you kooks
> just follow the playbook that we wrote for you.
*ka-ching*
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ah
§ñühw¤£f
> On Sat, 02 May 2009 17:10:06 -0600, ���hw��f wrote:
>
>> pandora wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 20:24:00 +1000, Bob Larter wrote:
>>>
>>>> atlas bugged wrote:
>>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2pbqdf....@news.alt.net...
>>>>>> lawsuit against the named defendants are seeing a far different
>>>>>> outcome than the defendants who are so delusional that they think
>>>>>> they are going to get away, Scott free and live for the day when they
>>>>>> can return to AUK and go full speed ahead with their organized
>>>>>> defamation. Boy, are they ever in for a BIG comeuppance!
>>>>>>
>>> about AB. ( and everyone else apparently). Too many thin-skinned people
>>> about, IMO.
>>>
>> When Chrissy Hind of the Pretenders was singing about Ohio it was really a
>> metaphor for how good things will always be changed for the worse by
>> people with power.
>
> Indeed. We just need to see that *they* don't have any power.
>
So the powerless will take the power away from the powerful?
Unpossible!
>> Its a human-driven form of entropy that can be summed up thusly: anything
>> pure and good will eventually be corrupted or ruined by the hand of man.
>
> Ah, but perhaps woman can do things differently?
>
You think Condi Rice is a woman?
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Aratzio
Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
How many days you going to hide, cupcake?
"The Honest One"
Why are you such a Coward, Roz ??
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���hw��f
of<pan.2009.05.05....@peak.org>:
>Ghandi managed to do it.
>
Ghandi had the will power and charm to do it.
Wheres our modern day Ghandi?
>>>> Its a human-driven form of entropy that can be summed up thusly:
>>>> anything pure and good will eventually be corrupted or ruined by
the
>>>> hand of man.
>>>
>>> Ah, but perhaps woman can do things differently?
>>>
>> You think Condi Rice is a woman?
>
>No.
>
Me either. Looks like she was sporting a black eye from her last bar
fight too.
^_^
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���hw��f
>The Dalai Lama?
>
He cares more about tibet than usenet...selfish bastid.
>>>>>> Its a human-driven form of entropy that can be summed up thusly:
>>>>>> anything pure and good will eventually be corrupted or ruined by
>> the
>>>>>> hand of man.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, but perhaps woman can do things differently?
>>>>>
>>>> You think Condi Rice is a woman?
>>>
>>>No.
>>>
>> Me either. Looks like she was sporting a black eye from her last bar
fight
>> too.
>
>I haven't been watching the news lately.
>
I'm addicted to CNN...
Bob Larter
I try not to think about Condi Rice & sex at the same time.
"The Honest One"
"Bob Larter" <bobby...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yup, you're Gay !!
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p.s. The new Friendly Neighborhood Rump Ranger of AUK:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Bitch_Slaps_-_Lionel_Makes_A_Nice_Poop.jpg
Notroll2009
Why not? It seemed to work for George W. Bush
§ñühw¤£f
synapses.
BRAINWASHING PLEASE!!!
Greegor
KW > be afforded the protection of free speech,
KW > even when it's to express his sexual interest in children.
Kent Wills land line number is in the Rogers, AR phone book.
He removed his street address from that listing just in the last year.
Dan Sullivan
joe soap
""The Honest One"" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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NO GAYS ALLOWED IN DEMON.LOCAL AND YOU ARE INVITED TO TAKE YOU'RE SODOMISTIC
PRACTISES ELSEWHERE
Bob Larter
Now there's a mental picture that I really could've done without.
Bob Larter
Got any mental-floss?
���hw��f
of<4a02a584$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
You'd think so since I ride my tiny little hoss...
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Use your husband's G-string, "Corset-Boi" !!
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"The Honest One"
He forgot about your aversion to hetro sex, "Tinker Bell" Lionel Mather
!!
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���hw��f
>Indeed. I guess one can't really blame him.
>
Hes watching the glaciers melt...
>>>>>>>> Its a human-driven form of entropy that can be summed up
thusly:
>>>>>>>> anything pure and good will eventually be corrupted or ruined
by
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> hand of man.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, but perhaps woman can do things differently?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You think Condi Rice is a woman?
>>>>>
>>>>>No.
>>>>>
>>>> Me either. Looks like she was sporting a black eye from her last
bar
>> fight
>>>> too.
>>>
>>>I haven't been watching the news lately.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm addicted to CNN...
>
>I used to be. Not any more. The news is just too depressing and
>annoying. I don't need to have my blood pressure going up. I'd rather
work
>in my garden pulling weeds and planting vegetables. Which reminds me,
I
>should be doing that right now. It isn't raining, yet. Imagine that.
>Sunshine in the Pacific Northwest.
>
>
Highly unlikely! It will tomorrow then.
Bob Larter
Over here, it's tomorrow now.
���hw��f
of<4a0454b7$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
Do you have robot pals in futurama?
Bob Larter
Of course!
���hw��f
SEXY WONS!??!!?
Bender:"ok Fry, I'll be your pal but I dont want anyone thinking I'm a
robosexual..."
���hw��f
>Aren't we all. Sigh.....
>
Yep...Obama is playing out to be just what I'd predicted: centrist.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/05/08-7
>It didn't but I had to go to a class. And today, it's not raining but
>it's bloody cold. Too cold to work outside. The wind is a chiller.
>
"Nice spring weather" for the NW. Whys it too cold fer ye?
Are ye a transplant!??!?!
OUTSIDER!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!
<angry townsfolk gather with garden impliments>
Bob Larter
Greegor
Hurry up and get this shut off, Kent!
What would that reveal?
���hw��f
>http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robmenu.htm
OOooooooh! This wons programmed to ride bikes!
We could ride bikes, together!!!!111!!!!
http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robot03.htm
���hw��f
>Yes, I am. From even further North however. And yes, it is warmer
there.
>
Wots it like up there in the ARTIC CIRCLE?
>> OUTSIDER!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!
>> <angry townsfolk gather with garden impliments>
>
>Heh. It seems they're doing that as we speak.
>
>:-)
>
They're there to help you eradicate the DEVILS WORK from your garden!
HAce yuo any goats to sacrifice?
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Bob Larter
> Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> pinched out a steaming pile
> of<4a07...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
>
>> http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robmenu.htm
>
> OOooooooh! This wons programmed to ride bikes!
> We could ride bikes, together!!!!111!!!!
> http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robot03.htm
...Naked!!!!111!!!1!!!!
"The Honest One"
> ���hw��f wrote:
> > Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> pinched out a steaming pile
> > of<4a07...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
> >
> >> http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robmenu.htm
> >
> > OOooooooh! This wons programmed to ride bikes!
> > We could ride bikes, together!!!!111!!!!
> > http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robot03.htm
>
> ...Naked!!!!111!!!1!!!!
> --
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���hw��f
>Heh. Not THAT far North. Just as far as BC, Canada. We can actually
>*swim*, yes I said SWIM there without a wet suit. The water in
Burrard
>Inlet is very nice.
>
Must be a volcanic vent aboot somewheres eh?
>>>> OUTSIDER!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>> <angry townsfolk gather with garden impliments>
>>>
>>>Heh. It seems they're doing that as we speak.
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>> They're there to help you eradicate the DEVILS WORK from your
garden!
>
>Cool. I could use some assistance.
>
Goats. I just cant say enough nice things about goats.
>> HAce yuo any goats to sacrifice?
>
>Nope, but the neighbor has several cats.
>
>
Cats wont help you with the weeds.
Cats are selfish little bastards that will eat you if you die in a
house locked in with em.
���hw��f
>���hw��f wrote:
>> Bob Larter <bobby...@gmail.com> pinched out a steaming pile
>> of<4a07...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
>>
>>> http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robmenu.htm
>>
>> OOooooooh! This wons programmed to ride bikes!
>> We could ride bikes, together!!!!111!!!!
>> http://www.suicide.couk.com/gallery/sora/robot03.htm
>
>...Naked!!!!111!!!1!!!!
>
She's programmed to say "bite my shiny metal ass".
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���hw��f
>Nah. Vancouver Island takes the brunt of the storms. As well, Juan
de
>Fuca Strait buffers the city of Vancouver. Makes for quite balmy
weather.
>Spring comes there in February and stays till the end of May when
Summer
>begins. However, temps never go higher than the 80s.
>
That would explain the LARGE CITY next to the island...people seem to
want ot live where teh weather is nice.
>>
>>>>>> OUTSIDER!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>> <angry townsfolk gather with garden impliments>
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh. It seems they're doing that as we speak.
>>>>>
>>>>>:-)
>>>>>
>>>> They're there to help you eradicate the DEVILS WORK from your
>> garden!
>>>
>>>Cool. I could use some assistance.
>>>
>>>
>> Goats. I just cant say enough nice things about goats.
>
>Hmmmm. My husband keeps saying we should get goats.
>
Sure, you could get his goat.
>>
>>>> HAce yuo any goats to sacrifice?
>>>
>>>Nope, but the neighbor has several cats.
>>>
>>>
>> Cats wont help you with the weeds.
>> Cats are selfish little bastards that will eat you if you die in a
house
>> locked in with em.
>
>Yeah, but they're so darn cute!
>
What if you wake up when they're halfway through!?!?!