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Heather D’Aoust - 15 Year Old Girl Charged With Savagely Beating Adoptive Mother With A Claw Hammer Will Stand Trial For Murder

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Greegor

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Sunday, December 21, 2008
Heather D’Aoust - 15 Year Old Girl Charged With Savagely Beating
Adoptive Mother With A Claw Hammer Will Stand Trial For Murder

San Diego, California (The Weekly Vice) -- Heather D'Aoust, a 15-year-
old girl who was arrested after striking her adoptive mother at least
15 times with a claw hammer, was ordered Wednesday to stand trial for
murder.

In the morning hours of May 25, 2007, James D'Aoust and his oldest
daughter awoke to the muffled screams of his wife, 56-year-old Rebecca
D'Aoust. When he ran downstairs to investigate, he found his wife
beaten savagely in the head with a claw hammer. Rebecca, who was a
school teacher and counselor, died the next day.

Heather D'Aoust, who was 14-years-old at the time, was detained and
booked into Juvenile Hall while authorities tried to untangle the
motives behind the brutal attack.

In the flurry of court hearings in late May, it was determined that
Heather D'Aoust would be charged as an adult, however it was yet to be
determined if she would be charged with murder. That question has now
been answered.

Monday and Tuesday, the court began to hear parts of the prosecutor's
case, which laid out a case for premeditated murder. According to
prosecutors, Heather allegedly left a trail of evidence that pointed
to what she was about to do.

Prosecutors say Heather typed notes into her cell phone and computer
before the killing that allegedly spelled out her plans.

FBI Special Agent Tim Hamon testified that he had accessed the notes
which he read aloud in court. They stated: "Wake up. Kill with hammer
as they wake up. Hide bodies in back seat of van. Drive to church.
Leave them with Christian-hating note, steal money. Bike home. Go to
sleep again."

According to Hamon, the note ended with a description of what she
would do next. "Report to authorities, act panicked and explain I
waited a day to see if they returned."

Patrick Lim, a criminal investigator who examined a computer the teen
used, was able to access various web pages that had been browsed the
night before the killing.

One page accessed that night was titled "BigDaddyBlog, Merk's Top Ten
murder weapons", according to Lim. A hammer was the site's #6 top
choice.

The user then allegedly entered various search phrases into Google
that included "lethal household things", "parents murdered by child"
and "children who kill", Lim told the court.

During the preliminary hearing, the court heard several hours of
testimony from Heather's father, FBI agents and forensics experts that
presented a long history of problems, that seemingly became worse in
the last year before the murder.

Suicide threats and complaints of feeling suicidal were abbreviated
with outbursts of anger towards her mother. Outbursts that even
rattled Heather's friends.

Heather's lawyer presented a case of mental illness. That claim was
echoed by Heather's father, who stated his belief that there are two
Heathers. A peaceful Heather and a "Heather Two".

Apparently it was Heather Two who woke up that morning.

The Weekly Vice Opinion:

This case is not a new case, however few details were released shortly
after it happened because the suspect is a minor and it wasn't known
whether or not she would be tried as an adult. Basically, this case is
just now beginning to unfold.

Those who are interested in following this case might want to check in
on Wednesday as the trial date for this case is scheduled to be
determined Tuesday of this next week.

Danny Vice The Weekly Vice http://www.theweeklyvice.com

melody4u

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Dec 22, 2008, 1:46:28 PM12/22/08
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This is horrible. I wonder what this girls bio parents did to her to
land her in foster care. Maybe mom had a boyfriend like grag??

rkb...@pacific.net.sg

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Dec 22, 2008, 2:40:20 PM12/22/08
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I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
disorder.
The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.

Jack

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Dec 22, 2008, 3:46:07 PM12/22/08
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> The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.

No shit.


Jack

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Dec 22, 2008, 3:46:42 PM12/22/08
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> This is horrible.

Excellent insight.


Greegor

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Dec 22, 2008, 4:32:10 PM12/22/08
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On Dec 22, 1:40 pm, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg>
wrote:


Doesn't her laundry list of things to do make a fairly
solid case that she planned and pre meditated this?

She searched the internet for how to do this.

A lot of people react like a 15 year old would not do this.

Did you see the photo where she's wearing a hoodie
and throwing gangsta signs?

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melody4u

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Dec 22, 2008, 5:43:39 PM12/22/08
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Exactly grag, she surely went through god awful trama, do you think
her step dad frepeatedly forced her to strip in front of him, then get
into a cold shower?

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Ranting

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Dec 22, 2008, 7:27:34 PM12/22/08
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<rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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>>I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
>>disorder.
>>The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.

Must be that, she can't just be evil, because she has a vagina


Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2008, 7:39:37 PM12/22/08
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On 22 Dec 2008 23:15:55 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

[...]

>>> This is horrible. I wonder what this girls bio parents did to her to
>>> land her in foster care. Maybe mom had a boyfriend like grag??
>>
>> I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
>> disorder.
>> The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>

>you can make a dsm-iv diagnosis based solely on a news article? that's a
>neat trick.

My fist thought upon reading the article was much the same. Her
behavior, as reported by the article, is consistent with DPD.
Does this mean she has it? No. Only that there is reason to
wonder. This is all rkbose has done. Express that s/he wonders.

>
>where did you get your doctorate in psychology (if you don't mind my
>asking)?

Do you propose that one must have an advanced degree in
psychology to wonder if someone has a mental illness?


--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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krp

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Dec 22, 2008, 8:07:25 PM12/22/08
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"Rog" <ro...@basement.office> wrote in message
news:Xns9B7CB642EBB9...@127.0.0.1...
> Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:apc0l4pciq725jfvv...@4ax.com:

>
>> On 22 Dec 2008 23:15:55 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> This is horrible. I wonder what this girls bio parents did to her
>>>>> to land her in foster care. Maybe mom had a boyfriend like grag??
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
>>>> disorder.
>>>> The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>>>
>>>you can make a dsm-iv diagnosis based solely on a news article?
>>>that's a neat trick.
>>
>> My fist thought upon reading the article was much the same. Her
>> behavior, as reported by the article, is consistent with DPD.
>>
>>>
>>>where did you get your doctorate in psychology (if you don't mind my
>>>asking)?
>>
>> Do you propose that one must have an advanced degree in
>> psychology to wonder if someone has a mental illness?
>
> i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness, but i see
> a couple people making actual diagnoses. a couple people who have not
> established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.


Aren't you aware that DOCTOR KENT WILLS is the foremost PROFESSOR of
clinical psychology in world History? He got his Ph.D. from Warsaw
Polytechnic and Laundry School.


Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2008, 9:39:26 PM12/22/08
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On 23 Dec 2008 00:57:04 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>> On 22 Dec 2008 23:15:55 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> This is horrible. I wonder what this girls bio parents did to her
>>>>> to land her in foster care. Maybe mom had a boyfriend like grag??
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
>>>> disorder.
>>>> The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>>>
>>>you can make a dsm-iv diagnosis based solely on a news article?
>>>that's a neat trick.
>>
>> My fist thought upon reading the article was much the same. Her
>> behavior, as reported by the article, is consistent with DPD.
>>
>>>

>>>where did you get your doctorate in psychology (if you don't mind my
>>>asking)?
>>
>> Do you propose that one must have an advanced degree in
>> psychology to wonder if someone has a mental illness?
>

>i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness, but i see
>a couple people making actual diagnoses.

Clearly you are in need of a remedial reading course.

"I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative
personality disorder."

In the real world, this is not a diagnosis.

>a couple people who have not
>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.

I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?

--

Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2008, 9:39:31 PM12/22/08
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:07:25 GMT, " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:

[...]

>>> Do you propose that one must have an advanced degree in
>>> psychology to wonder if someone has a mental illness?
>>
>> i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness, but i see
>> a couple people making actual diagnoses. a couple people who have not
>> established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>
>
>Aren't you aware that DOCTOR KENT WILLS is the foremost PROFESSOR of
>clinical psychology in world History? He got his Ph.D. from Warsaw
>Polytechnic and Laundry School.

Only within the confines of the mental illness you claim you have
as a result of your alcoholism.


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Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
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Kent Wills

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Dec 23, 2008, 1:01:39 AM12/23/08
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On 23 Dec 2008 04:01:40 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>>>i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness, but i
>>>see a couple people making actual diagnoses.
>>
>> Clearly you are in need of a remedial reading course.
>>
>> "I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative
>> personality disorder."
>>
>> In the real world, this is not a diagnosis.
>

>"actual case" = diagnosis.

"I'm wondering if..."
Do you understand the English language?

>
>>>a couple people who have not
>>>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>>
>> I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
>

>diagnosing (or attempting to) is an implicit claim that one is qualified
>to make the diagnosis.

Since no one has made such a diagnosis, there can be no claim,
implicit or otherwise.

>
>> Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?
>

>all the "diagnoses" can still be seen in the text quoted herein.

That's a no then.
Since, as I've pointed out, the poster was only wondering, there
can be no diagnosis.
Is there a specific reason you felt the need to claim a diagnosis
was made when, as all evidence proves, one was not?

rkb...@pacific.net.sg

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Nonono, it's the double X chromosome that confers immunity from evil.
It's also found among people with an XXY genotype. The vagina is not
the cause at all.

rkb...@pacific.net.sg

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Dec 23, 2008, 4:26:19 AM12/23/08
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> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GGAmzDRA_BY/SU88bZm88dI/AAAAAAAAFCk/-c92GcS...

Apparently she did do it. The question is, why did she do it?

Ranting

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<rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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>> Apparently she did do it. The question is, why did she do it?

That question ONLY ever seems to be asked when the person commiting the act
has a vagina.


Ranting

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Dec 23, 2008, 1:11:12 PM12/23/08
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<rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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Actually you are incorrect because people don't care about XX , XY or any
other stuff like that. If the person has a vagina , they are a victim no
matter what.


melody4u

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Dec 23, 2008, 1:51:35 PM12/23/08
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On Dec 23, 12:11 pm, "Ranting" <r...@rant.com> wrote:
> <rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
>
> news:6ace8cc3-acbb-4918...@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 4:27 pm, "Ranting" <r...@rant.com> wrote:
>
> > <rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
>
> >news:eb58cbc0-df01-4f73...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >>I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
> > >>disorder.
> > >>The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>
> > Must be that, she can't just be evil, because she has a vagina
> >>Nonono, it's the double X chromosome that confers immunity from evil.
> >>It's also found among people with an XXY genotype. The vagina is not
> >>the cause at all.
>
> Actually you are incorrect because people don't care about XX , XY or any
> other stuff like that. If the person has a vagina , they are a victim no
> matter what.

Oh goodie, another lunatic! Just in time for Christmas.

Ranting

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"melody4u" <rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Oh great, Page 22 Paragraph 4 , line 2


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Dragon's Girl

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Dec 23, 2008, 5:56:22 PM12/23/08
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I believe, if I'm not mistaken, there were a lot of questions asked
when the Menendez brothers killed their parents.
I could be wrong, but I don't think either of them had vaginas.

Dan Sullivan

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Dec 23, 2008, 8:14:00 PM12/23/08
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I believe they only had vaginas at their first trial... but I could be
wrong.

Kent Wills

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Dec 23, 2008, 8:44:31 PM12/23/08
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On 23 Dec 2008 22:33:34 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in

>news:9iv0l4tovdnfdb1c5...@4ax.com:


>
>> On 23 Dec 2008 04:01:40 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>
>>>>>i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness, but
>i
>>>>>see a couple people making actual diagnoses.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly you are in need of a remedial reading course.
>>>>
>>>> "I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative
>>>> personality disorder."
>>>>
>>>> In the real world, this is not a diagnosis.
>>>
>>>"actual case" = diagnosis.
>>
>> "I'm wondering if..."
>> Do you understand the English language?
>

>sure. do you? (answer: no)

You're the one trying to equate someone wondering something with
a diagnosis. Clearly the English language is something with which you
have great difficulty.

>
>>>>>a couple people who have not
>>>>>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
>>>
>>>diagnosing (or attempting to) is an implicit claim that one is
>qualified
>>>to make the diagnosis.
>>
>> Since no one has made such a diagnosis, there can be no claim,
>> implicit or otherwise.
>

>i see a couple people diagnosing, or at least trying to. you can see it,
>too, since the articles are still readily accessible.

No one has even implied a diagnosis.

>
>>>> Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?
>>>
>>>all the "diagnoses" can still be seen in the text quoted herein.
>>
>> That's a no then.
>

>what, you weren't able to see what was right in front of your face?

I see people wondering.

>
>> Since, as I've pointed out, the poster was only wondering, there
>> can be no diagnosis.
>

>"actual case" == diagnosis.
>
>even bona fide doctors "wonder" so the inclusion of that term is of no
>consequence.

Again you have to play word games. And again you fail.
Wondering if someone has a mental condition is not the same as
diagnosing a mental condition. Not to the more rational people of the
world.
YMMV, of course.

>
>> Is there a specific reason you felt the need to claim a diagnosis
>> was made when, as all evidence proves, one was not?
>

>the evidence proves that you are wrong, but desperately trying (and
>failing) to convince yourself otherwise.

I'm not trying to do anything. Since I already proved you wrong,
I don't need to.
Deal with it.


--
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bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

Kent Wills

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You are certainly correct on the first one.
I'll go out on a limb and definitively state neither had a
vagina.

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Kent Wills

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On 24 Dec 2008 02:24:04 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in

>news:0v43l4dgncaqpuv7j...@4ax.com:

>
>> On 23 Dec 2008 22:33:34 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>
>>>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:9iv0l4tovdnfdb1c5...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 23 Dec 2008 04:01:40 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness,
>>>>>>>but
>>>i
>>>>>>>see a couple people making actual diagnoses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly you are in need of a remedial reading course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative
>>>>>> personality disorder."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the real world, this is not a diagnosis.
>>>>>
>>>>>"actual case" = diagnosis.
>>>>
>>>> "I'm wondering if..."
>>>> Do you understand the English language?
>>>
>>>sure. do you? (answer: no)
>>
>> You're the one trying to equate someone wondering something with
>> a diagnosis.
>

>a diagnosis is a diagnosis. don't blame me if you can't recognize one
>when you see it.

No diagnosis was given.
Is there a specific reason you're lying about this?

>
>>>>>>>a couple people who have not
>>>>>>>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
>>>>>
>>>>>diagnosing (or attempting to) is an implicit claim that one is
>>>qualified
>>>>>to make the diagnosis.
>>>>
>>>> Since no one has made such a diagnosis, there can be no claim,
>>>> implicit or otherwise.
>>>
>>>i see a couple people diagnosing, or at least trying to. you can see
>>>it, too, since the articles are still readily accessible.
>>
>> No one has even implied a diagnosis.
>

>well, no one except you and that other person.

I made no implication. You flat out claimed it was, so no
implication.

>
>>>>>> Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?
>>>>>
>>>>>all the "diagnoses" can still be seen in the text quoted herein.
>>>>
>>>> That's a no then.
>>>
>>>what, you weren't able to see what was right in front of your face?
>>
>> I see people wondering.
>

>and diagnosing

Where is the diagnosis? In reality, I mean.

>
>>>> Since, as I've pointed out, the poster was only wondering,
>>>> there
>>>> can be no diagnosis.
>>>
>>>"actual case" == diagnosis.
>>>
>>>even bona fide doctors "wonder" so the inclusion of that term is of no
>>>consequence.
>>
>> Again you have to play word games.
>

>maybe in your puny mind

Odd that with every post, I prove myself your intellectual
superior.

>
>> Wondering if someone has a mental condition is not the same as
>> diagnosing a mental condition.
>

>not merely wondering if they have a mental condition, but stating that
>they have an "actual case" of said condition. that is a diagnosis, and
>always will be no matter how much you squirm. (don't let that stop you
>though, it's entertaining)

The OP simply wondered about her mental condition. Outside of
your inability to admit you were and are wrong, this is not a
diagnosis.

>


>>>> Is there a specific reason you felt the need to claim a
>>>> diagnosis
>>>> was made when, as all evidence proves, one was not?
>>>
>>>the evidence proves that you are wrong, but desperately trying (and
>>>failing) to convince yourself otherwise.
>>
>> I'm not trying to do anything.
>

>story of you life, i'll bet

If only.
I've had to work to get all that I have.

>
>> Since I already proved you wrong,
>

>all you've proven is that you're a dumbass wannabe obsesso-stalker who
>thinks he's a psychologist
>

Outside of your need to distract from the truth, I am none of
what you claim.

>got anything more to say in your defense, spankard?

Just the truth. Something I suspect you don't particularly like.

krp

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"Rog" <ro...@basement.office> wrote in message
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> Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:0qj0l4h8mrmubmcl6...@4ax.com:
> "actual case" = diagnosis.

>
>>>a couple people who have not
>>>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>>
>> I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
>
> diagnosing (or attempting to) is an implicit claim that one is qualified
> to make the diagnosis.
>
>> Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?
>
> all the "diagnoses" can still be seen in the text quoted herein.

Rog you are dealing with a distinguished Scholar in Wills. In his school in
Poland he was awarded a lifetime achievement award.
THE GOLDEN DUNCECAP AWARD!

Kent thinks it was for academic excellence.


Jack

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Dec 24, 2008, 10:09:33 AM12/24/08
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Yeah right, you're nuts.


Dan Sullivan

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Dec 24, 2008, 10:15:57 AM12/24/08
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That's when the question isn't asked!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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Greegor

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Dec 24, 2008, 8:07:18 PM12/24/08
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KW > Outside of your need to distract from
KW > the truth, I am none of what you claim.

Rog > deny it all you want, but that won't change your posting
history

Rog > got anything more to say in your defense, spankard?

KW > Just the truth. Something I suspect you don't particularly
like.

Rog > (sound of crickets chirping) ...thought so.

To Kent and his cronies, truth is merely a sales aid to sell LIES.

nicky...@aol.com

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heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
promise... ♥

♥Nicky♥

nicky...@aol.com

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Dec 24, 2008, 9:10:45 PM12/24/08
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On Dec 22, 12:46 pm, "Jack" <furgfurgf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>
> No shit.

you know what... she is one of my best friends... i know her very
well... so dont judge her

nicky...@aol.com

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Dec 24, 2008, 9:12:17 PM12/24/08
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> > > This is horrible. I wonder what this girls bio parents did to her to
> > > land her in foster care. Maybe mom had a boyfriend like grag??
>
> > I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative personality
> > disorder.
> > The girl sounds like she's mentally ill.
>
> Doesn't her laundry list of things to do make a fairly
> solid case that she planned and pre meditated this?
>
> She searched the internet for how to do this.
>
> A lot of people react like a 15 year old would not do this.
>
> Did you see the photo where she's wearing a hoodie
> and throwing gangsta signs?
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GGAmzDRA_BY/SU88bZm88dI/AAAAAAAAFCk/-c92GcS...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

she is not a gangster... shes throwing up a peace sign... for god's
sake... stop being so judgemental... in the words of Bob Marley...
"Before you point your fingers, make sure your hands are clean."

nicky...@aol.com

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Dec 24, 2008, 9:12:56 PM12/24/08
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On Dec 22, 2:43 pm, melody4u <rgc200...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GGAmzDRA_BY/SU88bZm88dI/AAAAAAAAFCk/-c92GcS...Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Exactly grag, she surely went through god awful trama, do you think
> her step dad frepeatedly forced her to strip in front of him, then get
> into a cold shower?- Hide quoted text -

>
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no... that didnt happen... her father happens to be a good guy... she
was ADOPTED into the family...

Greegor

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I'm sure she's the nicest claw hammer murderer you know!

What were you locked up for?

Dragon's Girl

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Dec 24, 2008, 9:54:14 PM12/24/08
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Greg talking down to yet another female child.
Will the examples never end?
Hey, Gag, if you had any sense you'd ignore this poster because
a) Probably NOT who they say they are
b) Could be who they say they are, in which case we'd do well NOT to
talk to her for obvious reasons
But, I'm sure you have already checked her IP, know her last name, etc
etc.

Greegor

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Dec 24, 2008, 11:48:28 PM12/24/08
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On Dec 24, 8:09 pm, nickyem420 at aol.com wrote:
N > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked
up
N > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
N > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
N > promise... ♥
N >
N > ♥Nicky♥

G > I'm sure she's the nicest claw hammer murderer you know!
G > What were you locked up for?

BW > Greg talking down to yet another female child.
BW > Will the examples never end?
BW > Hey, Gag, if you had any sense you'd ignore this poster because
BW > a) Probably NOT who they say they are
BW > b) Could be who they say they are, in which case we'd do well NOT
to
BW > talk to her for obvious reasons
BW > But, I'm sure you have already checked her IP, know her last
name, etc
BW > etc.

LOLOLOL

Dragon's Girl

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Dec 25, 2008, 12:40:16 AM12/25/08
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You didn't search for a myspace account or anything for her?
Now THAT is funny.

Robibnikoff

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<nicky...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

♥Nicky♥

Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
If you can't be a good example....
You'll just have to be a horrible warning.


Greegor

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On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
> <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> promise... ¢¾
>
> ¢¾Nicky¢¾
>
> Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.

Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

Greegor

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On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:

> <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message


> news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> promise... ¢¾

> ¢¾Nicky¢¾

RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.

Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?


RB > If you can't be a good example....
RB > You'll just have to be a horrible warning.

Isn't this story an example of the latter?

Dan Sullivan

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Dec 25, 2008, 12:50:38 PM12/25/08
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On Dec 25, 11:53 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
> > <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> > promise... ¢¾
> > ¢¾Nicky¢¾
>
> RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
>
> Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
> an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
> isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to announce the death of a
girl who starved herself on a website trying to help people suffering
from anorexia.

> RB > If you can't be a good example....
> RB > You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
>
> Isn't this story an example of the latter?

Yes, a bad example.

Evidently Santa didn't bring you brains for Christmas.

Greegor

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Dec 25, 2008, 4:49:54 PM12/25/08
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On Dec 25, 11:50 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 11:53 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
> > > <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> > > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> > > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> > > promise... ¢¾
> > > ¢¾Nicky¢¾

RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.

G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

DS > I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to
DS > announce the death of a girl who starved
DS > herself on a website trying to help people
DS > suffering from anorexia.

More like posting the story of such a death
on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.

RB > If you can't be a good example....
RB > You'll just have to be a horrible warning.

G > Isn't this story an example of the latter?

DS > Yes, a bad example.

DS > Evidently Santa didn't bring you brains for Christmas.

I welcome your dissertation on the logic involved.

Kent Wills

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:42:50 PM12/25/08
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On 24 Dec 2008 20:25:36 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in

>news:7cn3l4p4deoandkot...@4ax.com:


>
>> On 24 Dec 2008 02:24:04 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>
>>>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:0v43l4dgncaqpuv7j...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 23 Dec 2008 22:33:34 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:9iv0l4tovdnfdb1c5...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2008 04:01:40 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i don't see anyone "wondering" whether she has a mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>see a couple people making actual diagnoses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly you are in need of a remedial reading course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I'm wondering if it's an actual case of disassociative
>>>>>>>> personality disorder."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the real world, this is not a diagnosis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"actual case" = diagnosis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I'm wondering if..."
>>>>>> Do you understand the English language?
>>>>>
>>>>>sure. do you? (answer: no)
>>>>
>>>> You're the one trying to equate someone wondering something with
>>>> a diagnosis.
>>>
>>>a diagnosis is a diagnosis. don't blame me if you can't recognize one
>>>when you see it.
>>
>> No diagnosis was given.
>

>that you can recognize.

Since none was given, there was and is none to recognize.

>
>>>>>>>>>a couple people who have not
>>>>>>>>>established that they are licensed clinical psychologists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've seen no one claim, let alone establish, they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>diagnosing (or attempting to) is an implicit claim that one is
>>>>>qualified
>>>>>>>to make the diagnosis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since no one has made such a diagnosis, there can be no claim,
>>>>>> implicit or otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>>i see a couple people diagnosing, or at least trying to. you can see
>>>>>it, too, since the articles are still readily accessible.
>>>>
>>>> No one has even implied a diagnosis.
>>>
>>>well, no one except you and that other person.
>>
>> I made no implication.
>

>deny it all you want, but that won't change your posting history

Cite one time I've implied a diagnosis.

>
>>>>>>>> Would you be so kind as to post the MIDs for any such posts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>all the "diagnoses" can still be seen in the text quoted herein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a no then.
>>>>>
>>>>>what, you weren't able to see what was right in front of your face?
>>>>
>>>> I see people wondering.
>>>
>>>and diagnosing
>>
>> Where is the diagnosis?
>

>i believe this has been pointed out numerous times already. no more help
>for you, dumbass.

You've lied and claimed someone's expressing their wondering
about the girl being mentally is equates to a diagnosis. To the
rational mind, they are not the same.
Again, where is the diagnosis?

>
>>>>>> Since, as I've pointed out, the poster was only wondering,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> can be no diagnosis.
>>>>>
>>>>>"actual case" == diagnosis.
>>>>>
>>>>>even bona fide doctors "wonder" so the inclusion of that term is of
>no
>>>>>consequence.
>>>>
>>>> Again you have to play word games.
>>>
>>>maybe in your puny mind
>>
>> Odd that with every post, I prove myself your intellectual
>> superior.
>

>with every post you prove that you are a gibbering dumbass who cannot
>understand half of what you read, follow a thread or remember anything
>for more than a few hours.
>

Yet I'm able to show you where you are wrong.

>>>> Wondering if someone has a mental condition is not the same as
>>>> diagnosing a mental condition.
>>>
>>>not merely wondering if they have a mental condition, but stating that
>>>they have an "actual case" of said condition. that is a diagnosis, and
>>>always will be no matter how much you squirm. (don't let that stop you
>>>though, it's entertaining)
>>
>> The OP simply wondered about her mental condition.
>

>"actual case"

"I'm wondering if..."
Again, the truth ruins the claim you're making.

>
>>>>>> Is there a specific reason you felt the need to claim a
>>>>>> diagnosis
>>>>>> was made when, as all evidence proves, one was not?
>>>>>
>>>>>the evidence proves that you are wrong, but desperately trying (and
>>>>>failing) to convince yourself otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to do anything.
>>>
>>>story of you life, i'll bet
>>
>> If only.
>> I've had to work to get all that I have.
>

>no surprise that you worship material possessions. most dumbasses do.

Your jealousy over how well I've done well in life as a result of
hard work and risk doesn't equate to worshiping material possessions.

>
>>>> Since I already proved you wrong,
>>>
>>>all you've proven is that you're a dumbass wannabe obsesso-stalker who
>>>thinks he's a psychologist
>>>
>>
>> Outside of your need to distract from the truth, I am none of
>> what you claim.
>

>deny it all you want, but that won't change your posting history

So you agree with me.
Great.

>
>>
>>>got anything more to say in your defense, spankard?
>>
>> Just the truth. Something I suspect you don't particularly like.
>

>(sound of crickets chirping)
>
>...thought so.

So you agree that I only use truth. That's great. Really.

--
"Hail imp," shouted Vlad, the Imp Hailer.

Kent Wills

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Outside of the mental illness you claim you have as a result of
your alcoholism, there is no such award.
Get into rehab, Pangborn. Once again you've offered undeniable
PROOF that you NEED it.


"We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting, from an argument with a
woman on the talk.rape newsgroup
He admits to authoring the threat here:
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/0468b8085d0ee5b5

Kent Wills

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:44:03 PM12/25/08
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Odd that you've been UNABLE to expose any lies from anyone.
By way of contrast, I've exposed several from you. Most recently
your LIE about a phantom probation revocation hearing.
Again I encourage anyone with an interest to call the Polk County
Clerk of Court office at 515-286-3765 during regular business hours
and ask if there is any hearing/trial/meeting/whatever of any sort for
anyone named Kent Wills for any date in 2009.
Once again Greg, your lie is being exposed. I'm sure you are
quite used to it, given that such a thing happens so often.
I have to wonder why you present so many lies, when you know they
will be exposed as the lies they are? Care to enlighten me, and
anyone else reading, on this?
Tic tock. Tic tock.


"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, or proving he's so
stupid he thinks I'm Asian.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

Kent Wills

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:47:16 PM12/25/08
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I can't speak to whether you ever knew her or not (I suspect you
do not, but I could be wrong), but that she beat her mom with a hammer
indicates she is not a good person.
Presuming she actually did it, of course, as all available
evidence shows she did.


--

-... .- -.. .-- --- .-.. ..-.

Kent Wills

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:47:50 PM12/25/08
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:12:17 -0800 (PST), nicky...@aol.com wrote:

>> A lot of people react like a 15 year old would not do this.
>>
>> Did you see the photo where she's wearing a hoodie
>> and throwing gangsta signs?
>>
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GGAmzDRA_BY/SU88bZm88dI/AAAAAAAAFCk/-c92GcS...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>she is not a gangster... shes throwing up a peace sign... for god's
>sake... stop being so judgemental... in the words of Bob Marley...
>"Before you point your fingers, make sure your hands are clean."

Don't worry about Greg. His past, and very probably current,
illegal drug use and abuse makes honesty impossible for Greg. Unless
he makes a mistake or is somehow forced into it.
Since Greg proves this claim true nearly every day, few actually
believe anything he posts.

Kent Wills

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:47:58 PM12/25/08
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:12:56 -0800 (PST), nicky...@aol.com wrote:

[...]

>> Exactly grag, she surely went through god awful trama, do you think
>> her step dad frepeatedly forced her to strip in front of him, then get
>> into a cold shower?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>no... that didnt happen... her father happens to be a good guy... she
>was ADOPTED into the family...

Greg forced his girl friend's seven-year-old daughter to take
cold showers in front of him. He got off on seeing her naked boy
shiver.
Sadly, I'm not joking.

Kent Wills

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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:49:54 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
>
>G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
>G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
>G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?
>
>DS > I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to
>DS > announce the death of a girl who starved
>DS > herself on a website trying to help people
>DS > suffering from anorexia.
>
>More like posting the story of such a death
>on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.
>

As if that would be so much more appropriate.

>RB > If you can't be a good example....
>RB > You'll just have to be a horrible warning.
>
>G > Isn't this story an example of the latter?
>
>DS > Yes, a bad example.
>
>DS > Evidently Santa didn't bring you brains for Christmas.
>
>I welcome your dissertation on the logic involved.

I'm not Dan, though you've made it clear you think I am in
several posts. Even so, I think you'll find my reply spot on.
You've proved you are extremely stupid (unable to learn) as a
result of your past, and probably current, illegal drug use and abuse.
Since you have once again proved this to be true, it's clear you
didn't get any intellect of any sort for Christmas.
Why are you stalking the members of alt.friends? I believe it's
due to your past, and most probably current, illegal drug use and
abuse. However, I must acknowledge another reason could be accurate.
If my belief is in error, please explain just why you are
stalking, by the very definition you posted to accuse others of
stalking you, the members of alt.friends.

Dan Sullivan

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Dec 25, 2008, 7:15:10 PM12/25/08
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On Dec 25, 4:49 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 11:50 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 25, 11:53 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
> > > > <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> > > > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> > > > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> > > > promise... ¢¾
> > > > ¢¾Nicky¢¾
>
> RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
>
> G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
> G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
> G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?
>
> DS > I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to
> DS > announce the death of a girl who starved
> DS > herself on a website trying to help people
> DS > suffering from anorexia.
>
> More like posting the story of such a death
> on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.

So you just want to be sure the victims are aware there's a downside
to anorexia... namely death.


Greegor

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Dec 25, 2008, 8:16:36 PM12/25/08
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On Dec 25, 6:15 pm, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 4:49 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 25, 11:50 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 11:53 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> > > > > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> > > > > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> > > > > promise... ¢¾
> > > > > ¢¾Nicky¢¾

RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.

G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

DS > I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to
DS > announce the death of a girl who starved
DS > herself on a website trying to help people
DS > suffering from anorexia.

G > More like posting the story of such a death
G > on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.

DS > So you just want to be sure the victims are aware
DS > there's a downside to anorexia... namely death.

How is that not appropriate, Dan?

melody4u

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> How is that not appropriate, Dan?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

grag enjoys finding what he thinks are peoples weak spots, then
playing them for all hes got. He thinks this makes him powerful. He
cannot see how this shows how pathetic he really is.

Greegor

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Dec 25, 2008, 11:20:07 PM12/25/08
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RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.

G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

DS > I guess, grag, you'd think it appropriate to
DS > announce the death of a girl who starved
DS > herself on a website trying to help people
DS > suffering from anorexia.

G > More like posting the story of such a death
G > on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.

DS > So you just want to be sure the victims are aware
DS > there's a downside to anorexia... namely death.

G > How is that not appropriate, Dan?

m4u > grag enjoys finding what he thinks are peoples
m4u > weak spots, then playing them for all hes got.
m4u > He thinks this makes him powerful. He cannot
m4u > see how this shows how pathetic he really is.

Big bad mean Greg hurts your feelings? LOL
I should return all of the kindness you've shown me, right?

Greegor

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Dec 26, 2008, 12:37:07 AM12/26/08
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On Dec 25, 10:33 pm, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:

> On Dec 25, 11:20 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Big bad mean Greg hurts your feelings?   LOL
>
> There's no such thing as a "big bad grag."
>
> Just a pathetic excuse for a human being.

>
> > I should return all of the kindness you've shown me, right?
>
> How many people have you shown kindness to, grag?
>
> You even abused your cat and claimed it demonstrated your parenting
> skills!!!
>
> That's what you claimed about the abuse you inflicted on Lisa's
> daughter... PARENTING SKILLS!!!
>
> Is that what you claimed abuot your inappropriate behavior with your
> stepdaughter in the mid nineties?
>
> And your convictions for abusing your ex-wife???
>
> Let me guess.
>
> Good husbandry skills?

How many kids did you make with your ex AFTER
you knew she was a freakin' mental case, Dan?

Are you ""disabled"" yourself, Dan?

Greegor

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Dec 26, 2008, 2:20:34 AM12/26/08
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On Dec 25, 11:55 pm, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:

> On Dec 26, 12:37 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 25, 10:33 pm, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 11:20 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Big bad mean Greg hurts your feelings?   LOL
>
> > > There's no such thing as a "big bad grag."
>
> > > Just a pathetic excuse for a human being.
>
> > > > I should return all of the kindness you've shown me, right?
>
> > > How many people have you shown kindness to, grag?
>
> > > You even abused your cat and claimed it demonstrated your parenting
> > > skills!!!
>
> > > That's what you claimed about the abuse you inflicted on Lisa's
> > > daughter... PARENTING SKILLS!!!
>
> > > Is that what you claimed abuot your inappropriate behavior with your
> > > stepdaughter in the mid nineties?
>
> > > And your convictions for abusing your ex-wife???
>
> > > Let me guess.
>
> > > Good husbandry skills?

G > How many kids did you make with your ex AFTER
G > you knew she was a freakin' mental case, Dan?

DS > Is "big bad grag" afraid of answering my questions???
DS > Looks that way.

G > Are you ""disabled"" yourself, Dan?

DS > What business is it of yours?

Why wouldn't it be my business, Dan?

In the very same post where you implied
that I am afraid of answering your questions,
you reacted to MY question by asking
what business of mine it is.

When your hostile questions are not
answered, you taunt about being afraid,
but you don't even answer the most
basic and non-threatening background
questions about yourself.

Field of education
Line of work
Disability status

What are you hiding, Dan?

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melody4u

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Dec 26, 2008, 10:45:02 AM12/26/08
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Re: melody4u complains her opposition isn't nice to her!
I have done no such thing.
It amuses me that you have appointed yourself as my "oppostion". You
are my oppostion as a nasty stain on my carpet would be.
You are not capable of kindness, we all get this and do not expect,
nor want it.
You are nothing grag

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 11:08:48 AM12/26/08
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On 26 Dec 2008 13:42:20 GMT, Rog <ro...@basement.office> wrote:

>Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in

>news:ak68l4516uc7aj5m7...@4ax.com:
>>
>> Again I encourage anyone with an interest to call the XXXX XXXXXX
>> XXXXX XX XXXXX office at XXX-XXX-XXXX during regular business hours
>
>article censored.

The original is still out there for people to read. Anyone with
an interest may call and confirm that your hero lied.

>
>keep usenet shit on usenet, asswipe.

Greg has made it clear that anything in the public record can and
should be made available on Usenet. My offering a means by which
anyone with an interest may confirm that Greg is psychologically
UNABLE to be honest may prove a matter of embarrassment for you, since
you clearly worship the child predator. If so, that's your issue to
address.

--
When cryptography is outlawed,
bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 11:09:21 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:34:10 -0800 (PST), melody4u
<rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]

>> G > More like posting the story of such a death
>> G > on a discussion group for victims of anorexia.
>>
>> DS > So you just want to be sure the victims are aware
>> DS > there's a downside to anorexia... namely death.
>>
>> How is that not appropriate, Dan?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>grag enjoys finding what he thinks are peoples weak spots, then
>playing them for all hes got.

Reference Greg's attempt to use Hikaru, a woman who has been dead
for 20 years, against me. He couldn't counter the truth I was
presenting, so he had to use her.
Unless, of course, he was offering proof that he's so stupid he
thinks I'm Asian.
He claims he is aware that I'm not Asian, so that limits the
options available to him.

>He thinks this makes him powerful. He
>cannot see how this shows how pathetic he really is.

He thinks he's tough because he can try to use a woman who was
killed two decades ago against someone who exposes each of his lies.
In fact, his doing that only served to prove how desperate he becomes
when his lies are exposed.
It's only going to get worse for him in just under a week.
Unless he directly admits to each of his many lies.
The real beauty is I'll be working under Greg's own standards.
Anything and everything found within the public record can be posted
to Usenet.
Tic tock. Tic tock.

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 11:09:43 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:20:07 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>m4u > grag enjoys finding what he thinks are peoples
>m4u > weak spots, then playing them for all hes got.
>m4u > He thinks this makes him powerful. He cannot
>m4u > see how this shows how pathetic he really is.
>
>Big bad mean Greg hurts your feelings? LOL
>I should return all of the kindness you've shown me, right?

Explain to the readers how using a woman who was killed 20 years
ago when you can no longer lie your way out of something is acceptable
in your eyes. Or are you so stone cold stupid that you think I'm
Asian?
As of my writing this, you've refused to explain your actions.
When your drug addled mind has permitted you to acknowledge the
question, you try to claim I am and am not Asian.
Please address the matter now.
Time's running out, Greg. In just under two weeks I'll be
gathering everything I can from the public record about you that I
don't already have and, per your standards, posting it to Usenet. A
great deal of information about Lisa and her daughter, you know, the
one you wanted as a sex partner, will likely be included. I'll do my
best to limit what information about them is released, since, as far
as I know, neither is aware of the lying you commit on-line.
You can eliminate everyone learning everything there is to know
from the public record by admitting to each and every one of your
lies. Do that and I'll not even bother looking. Further, what I
already have will remain private (unless someone else looks it up).
The choice is 100% yours.
Tick tock. Tick tock.
Why are you stalking, by the very definition you posted to Usenet
to accuse others of stalking you, the members of alt.friends?

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 11:10:20 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:37:07 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>> And your convictions for abusing your ex-wife???


>>
>> Let me guess.
>>
>> Good husbandry skills?
>
>How many kids did you make with your ex AFTER
>you knew she was a freakin' mental case, Dan?
>
>Are you ""disabled"" yourself, Dan?

Why did you beat your wife on at least two occasions? It's very
likely you beat her far more often, but since you have only two
convictions for the abuse, I can only ask about them.
So why did you beat her?
Was it due to drug abuse on your part?


Why are you stalking the members of alt.friends?

Tick tock. Tick tock.

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 11:10:43 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:20:34 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > And your convictions for abusing your ex-wife???
>>
>> > > Let me guess.
>>
>> > > Good husbandry skills?
>
>G > How many kids did you make with your ex AFTER
>G > you knew she was a freakin' mental case, Dan?
>
>DS > Is "big bad grag" afraid of answering my questions???
>DS > Looks that way.
>
>G > Are you ""disabled"" yourself, Dan?
>
>DS > What business is it of yours?
>
>Why wouldn't it be my business, Dan?

Prove that it's any of your business.

>
>In the very same post where you implied
>that I am afraid of answering your questions,

Like any cockroach, the light of truth fills you with extreme
fear. A truth I've proved more times than I care to count.

>you reacted to MY question by asking
>what business of mine it is.

Do you think you own the right to asking a question when asked a
question?

>
>When your hostile questions are not
>answered, you taunt about being afraid,
>but you don't even answer the most
>basic and non-threatening background
>questions about yourself.
>
>Field of education

Wasn't asked, as can be seen above.

>Line of work

Wasn't asked, as can be seen above.

>Disability status

Prove you have the right to know his disability status, if any.

>
>What are you hiding, Dan?

I point out that when I ask you question, like why you're
stalking the members of alt.friends, you REFUSE to answer.
It's rare that you can even be honest enough to acknowledge that
the question has been asked.
Now you act as if someone else not answering a question is a
horrible act. Why is it acceptable in your mind for you to refuse to
answer questions, yet another refusing to do so is inappropriate?
What, exactly, are you hiding Greg?


Why are you stalking the members of alt.friends?

Tick tock. Tick Tock.

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 12:55:05 PM12/26/08
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:45:02 -0800 (PST), melody4u
<rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]

>> m4u > grag enjoys finding what he thinks are peoples


>> m4u > weak spots, then playing them for all hes got.
>> m4u > He thinks this makes him powerful. He cannot
>> m4u > see how this shows how pathetic he really is.
>>
>> Big bad mean Greg hurts your feelings?   LOL
>> I should return all of the kindness you've shown me, right?
>
>Re: melody4u complains her opposition isn't nice to her!
>I have done no such thing.
>It amuses me that you have appointed yourself as my "oppostion". You
>are my oppostion as a nasty stain on my carpet would be.
>You are not capable of kindness, we all get this and do not expect,
>nor want it.
>You are nothing grag

This, above all else, upsets Greg: That outside of Usenet fodder,
Greg is nothing. Unless Greg has been less than honest with his
posts, it's clear he thinks we should be spending all sorts of time
discussing him on and off Usenet. We happily feed this need on
Usenet, but not off.

Tick Tock. Tick tock.

Greegor

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Dec 26, 2008, 2:33:20 PM12/26/08
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On Dec 25, 5:47 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:09:51 -0800 (PST), nickyem...@aol.com wrote:
> >heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> >with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> >behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> >promise... ¢¾
>
> >¢¾Nicky¢¾
>
>      I can't speak to whether you ever knew her or not (I suspect you
> do not, but I could be wrong), but that she beat her mom with a hammer
> indicates she is not a good person.
>      Presuming she actually did it, of course, as all available
> evidence shows she did.

Darn it, Kent, Here I was all ready for you to
repeat your argument in favor of gasoline
in a fire extinguisher.

Kent Wills

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Dec 26, 2008, 3:04:27 PM12/26/08
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Outside of your latest proof that you can't be honest unless you
make a mistake or are forced, I've never argued in favor of gasoline
in a fire extinguisher.
Pointing out that gasoline doesn't burn in its liquid state is
not the same as what dishonestly present.

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krp

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Dec 27, 2008, 9:06:55 AM12/27/08
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"Rog" <ro...@basement.office> wrote in message
news:Xns9B8043DCB2DA...@127.0.0.1...

> Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:ak68l4516uc7aj5m7...@4ax.com:
>>
>> Again I encourage anyone with an interest to call the XXXX XXXXXX
>> XXXXX XX XXXXX office at XXX-XXX-XXXX during regular business hours
>
> article censored.
>
> keep usenet shit on usenet, asswipe.

Nope the COVEN will never do that. They MUST make it personal.


Kent Wills

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Dec 27, 2008, 12:26:06 PM12/27/08
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I simply made it possible for anyone with an interest to prove for
themselves that Greg lied about a probation/parole revocation hearing
for Kent Wills.
Naturally this proved you lied about being invited to it. As
such, I can see why you wouldn't want anyone to call the Polk County,
Iowa Clerk of Court office at 515-286-3765 during regular business
hours and ask if there is any sort of hearing scheduled for anyone
named Kent Wills on any date in January of 2009. Since there is no
hearing scheduled for anyone named Kent Wills on any date in January
of 2009, you couldn't have been invited to attend.
The fact that you would have been subpoenaed also helps prove you
lied, but calling the Clerk of Court office is a bit more
authoritative, since you could lie and claim you meant you were
subpoenaed when you wrote invited.
Care to explain to the readers how you were invited to a hearing
that isn't scheduled?


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fan and GAY lover."
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Marley

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Dec 30, 2008, 4:40:57 AM12/30/08
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On Dec 25, 4:49 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 11:50 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 25, 11:53 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 3:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
> > > > <nickyem...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:54ae78b8-fe76-4a31...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > heather is one of my best friends... i met her while i was locked up
> > > > with her... i've known her for a while... i know the whole story
> > > > behind it... please don't judge her... she's a good person, i
> > > > promise... ¢¾
> > > > ¢¾Nicky¢¾
>
> RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
>
> G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
> G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
> G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?

I can't speak for Robyn, but perhaps she's talking about ya'll's
personal bullshit that is posted on alt.adoption that nobody gives a
rat's ass about.

I'm always very interested in kids who kill their parents, whether
adoption is involved or not I don't know why more kids don't do it.
Parenthood is a one-way ticket to hell.

Marley

Kent Wills

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Dec 30, 2008, 5:30:53 AM12/30/08
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:40:57 -0800 (PST), Marley
<maddog...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

[...]

>> RB > Please keep this stupid bullshit out of alt.adoption. Thanks.
>>
>> G > Robyn, What part of a 15 year old adoptee bashing
>> G > an adoptive mother's head in with a claw hammer
>> G > isn't appropriate in alt.adoption?
>
>I can't speak for Robyn, but perhaps she's talking about ya'll's
>personal bullshit that is posted on alt.adoption that nobody gives a
>rat's ass about.

Yet you'll post to alt.friends (a group that refused Greg
membership -- the only person in the history of the group to be
refused) with yours.
How do you rationalize this?

>
>I'm always very interested in kids who kill their parents, whether
>adoption is involved or not I don't know why more kids don't do it.
>Parenthood is a one-way ticket to hell.

While it is stressful at times, I'd never describe parenthood as a
one-way ticket to Hell. Not even a round trip.

Greegor

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Dec 30, 2008, 3:49:13 PM12/30/08
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Marley, the initial gripe from Robyn was about
the article itself, not the usenet digression.

Isn't your anti-children kvetching also personal BS?

You think the value of a comment depends on
crowds of people giving a "rat's ass" about it?

Does the value of a comment truly
depend on a popularity contest, Marley?

Do your own views or comments score well
on a popularity scale, Marley?

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