=:o> Chad -- Humble Manservant
Giggle. I had this very same realization. I have always detested
things pastel..but if you think furnishings and clothes for the King
to be are bad, you should check out the horrid maternity garb
available for the Queen Mum!!! As if somehow I became pregnant and I,
at the respectable age of 25, want to be dressing like some kind of
unwieldy 2 year old. BIB overall thingees and pastel thingees!! ACK!
The solution? For us anyway it was getting the catalogs FAQ available
here and ordering pretty much all of the catalogs available. By
escaping the basic retailers circuit we found a lot of adorable stuff
from afar. Land's End and Hannah Anderson are my two favorites
because they dress the babies in ultra-brights and solids instead of
pastels. They also even have some PRINT designs of all the wonders.
We were also concerned about pastels because we're hoping for a boy
and I just HATE that funky baby blue they put baby boys in. I also
didn't like the fact that with a boy you seem to have two choices,
dress him like a girl, except he's in blue, or like some kind of
twisted miniature used car salesman (polyester blazers?? who thought
of this??). The catalogs have given us a lot more freedom.
Also re:bedding..we shopped around a LOT. The Burlington Coat Factory
Baby Store seemed to have a really great selection of bedding and we
ended up with a nice..non-pastel snoopy set. They also had a jungle
set that came in fuscia, violet and aqua which we were considering.
You don't HAVE to succumb to the pastel insurgency..I sure didn't.
Not that I think there's anything wrong with people who love
pastels..I'm just not one of them.
Now if I could just find a musical wind up animal that DOESN'T play
"you are my sunshine.." I'd be truly content.
good luck to you and the future King...
leisa
--
If we shadows have offended, Think but this, and all is mended
That you have but slumber'd here, while these visions did appear
And this weak and idle theme, no more yielding but a dream...
_____________________________________________________________________________
Charlotte
Mom to Maggie, who we hope won't grow up to be too prissy...
Leisa Diel (ld...@nmsu.edu) wrote:
: Giggle. I had this very same realization. I have always detested
: things pastel..but if you think furnishings and clothes for the King
: The solution? For us anyway it was getting the catalogs FAQ available
: here and ordering pretty much all of the catalogs available. By
: escaping the basic retailers circuit we found a lot of adorable stuff
: from afar. Land's End and Hannah Anderson are my two favorites
: because they dress the babies in ultra-brights and solids instead of
: pastels. They also even have some PRINT designs of all the wonders.
: of this??). The catalogs have given us a lot more freedom.
This is important! On a pale-skinned baby, pastels can just look
so...putrid. I ended up buying lots of plain white cottons from
Target and tie-dying them or drawing on them with fabric markers.
If you don't want to do that, here's the only reasonably priced
alternative I know of:
Call the Richman Cotton Company and request a catalog. Everything they
sell is cotton and dyed in your choice of 15 different colors (including
a deep plum, the dark bluish green known as jade, bright red, etc.).
It's a small company and may take a little while to fill an order,
although they were pretty fast with my order. Their number is even in
the misc.kids catalog FAQ! [excerpt:
Richman Cotton Company Reasonably-priced 100% cotton clothing
529 Fifth Street for infants through adult XL. Cloth
Santa Rose, CA 95401 diapering supplies. Games and toys.
1-800-992-8924
]
The prices are higher than Target but way less than, say, Biobottoms....
about the same as After The Stork, but better quality. The quality is
about average, I'd say, not as good as the most expensive catalogs, but
certainly acceptable. (After the Stork was unacceptably low quality in
my one dismal experience with them--they never even refunded my money
for the mismatched shoes I returned!) Oh, and they even carry good tie-dying
supplies, if you want to do what I did.
I am not connected in any way with the Richman Cotton Company.
Paula Burch
pbu...@bcm.tmc.edu
not speaking for my employers
>
>
>
> Giggle. I had this very same realization. I have always detested
> things pastel.> The solution? For us anyway it was getting the catalogs FAQ available
> here and ordering pretty much all of the catalogs available. By
> escaping the basic retailers circuit we found a lot of adorable stuff
(stuff deleted)
The catalogs have given us a lot more freedom.
> Also re:bedding..we shopped around a LOT. The Burlington Coat Factory
> Baby Store seemed to have a really great selection of bedding and we
> ended up with a nice
If they have them in your area - check out Target for Primary Colors on a
Budget! I just got some really nice bedding, etc. stuff there for a friend
who is doing her nursery in Primary colors.
> You don't HAVE to succumb to the pastel insurgency..I sure didn't.
I didn't give in to the pastel thing either - but due to a small budget
(and decorating before I knew I was pregnant! ) Jacob's room is BURGANDY
and WHITE! Just TRY finding things that A) are NOT pastel, B) aren't
PRIMARY, and C) are NOT CABBAGE ROSES! AAAAGH!
I learned to SEW because I didn't like what was available in the
stores for bassinet liners and nursery linens. All I could find
(at a price I was willing to pay) was pastels and Mickey Mouse (in
primary colors). Since I didn't want either one, I bought fabric,
learned to sew, and made my own.
This of course, has meant that I don't have to fight the "pastels for
babies" problem, or "all boys clothes have footballs on them"--i make
them the way I want them to be--bright primary colors that would work
equally for a boy or a girl.
However, people do use color to determine whether they think he is a
boy or a girl. One afternoon, we were at the grocery store, and
Jordan was wearing a light blue Barney outfit--sky blue shorts and
t-shirt, with yellow roll-up sleeves and neck trim, and a Barney/Baby
Bop patch on the front. A woman said something about "she.." and I
was very surprised--it was the first time in ages someone had thought
he was a girl--and all I could ascribe it was that he was wearing a
light blue outfit rather than a primary color. When we started
talking, she said she thought it looked like a "girl's" outfit--I
still can't figure out why--I thought it was pretty non-sexed. :-)
--
--Beth Weiss
bwe...@cs.arizona.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ruth Rosen Greenwood NYC -> SF -> JAPAN -> INDIANA -> ?
rgre...@indiana.edu (if unavailable, try twgr...@indiana.edu)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I can't stand pastels either. For bedding, I found a great color selection of
sheets and blankets in the One Step Ahead catalogue, but it IS a bit more
expensive than other catalogues, and they don't have the crib bumpers, etc. in
the same bright colors (at least not in the catalogue that I have. (I was
really psyched to be able to get some purple crib sheets though!)
JC Penney has some bright solid bumpers/sheets/skirts hiding in their kids
catalogue, but it's a 50-50 blend; I may go with the JCP stuff for the
bumpers, or I may make the time to make my own.
I also found some baby blankets in a wide range of colors in the
"Domestications" catalogue (they don't cater to kids or anything; they just
happened to sell cotton thermal blankets in crib sizes as well as standard bed
sizes), so we got a black baby blanket -- I'm also psyched about that find.
As for clothes, I've seen some bright cottons in Lands' End and After the
Stork, but haven't gotten around to actually ordering anything yet. The baby
clothing catalogues are only just starting to roll in, so I don't have a good
scoop on that yet. (Though I do appreciate the tip from the poster who said
that After the Stork wasn't good quality!)
(BTW, you can probably get the 800 numbers for any of these places by calling
1-800-555-1212.)
Clare
con...@eecs.umich.edu
Ericka
e...@crew.umich.edu
Ericka
e...@crew.umich.edu
I'm a fan of the Company Store too (can't beat those $10 feather pillows,
which I'm getting a lot of use out of in my pregnancy), but I'm pretty sure
their baby stuff is mostly pastels. (Oops, correction. My neice has bedding
"ABC" pr
What's more, from what I hear, the custom shop is very pricey. Case in point:
I have a friend who was looking for a 24" square pillow (22" and 26" are much
more common), and she called CS to ask about having a custom pillow made. $40,
and the 26" square is about $20, as I recall. Also, I ended up sewing curtains
for my neices room out of a CS sheet because having them make curtains to
match the bedding
Ericka
e...@crew.umich.edu
[That didn't work too well; let's try this again:]
I'm a fan of the Company Store too (can't beat those $10 feather pillows,
which I'm getting a lot of use out of in my pregnancy), but I'm pretty sure
their baby stuff is mostly pastels. (Oops, correction. My neice has CS bedding
with an "ABC" print in primary colors on a white background.)
What's more, from what I hear, the custom shop is very pricey. Case in point:
I have a friend who was looking for a 24" square pillow (22" and 26" are much
more common), and she called CS to ask about having a custom pillow made. $40,
and the 26" square is about $20, as I recall. Also, I ended up sewing curtains
for my neice's room out of a CS sheet because having them make curtains to
match the bedding was too pricey for my brother and SIL. But I don't know how
much they woulda charged.
Clare
con...@eecs.umich.edu
Brights for Baby can be done!
Meredith's crib bedding was jade green and purple, made by NoJo. We keep her
toys, stuffed animals, shampoo, diaper rash cream, etc. in different jade green
and purple containers we bought at our Storables store. My diaper bag is
purple corduroy. Merdith wore a lot of purple, green and bright pink clothes
and still does. The pastel clothes she did have came from grandparents. I
agree that Hanna Andersson has nice bright colors and they are comfortable and
well made, 100% cotton. Fortunately I live two miles from the Hanna outlet
store so I get good deals. You can order from their catalog. Meredith also had
a great one-piece jade green outfit from Lands End, very comfortable. Gymboree
stores have very bright, colorful clothes that all coordinate. They also carry
blankets, booties, etc. for babies.
Kathryn Pyle Krages
Oregon Health Sciences University
kra...@ohsu.edu
I'm MOM: Mother of Meredith 1/14/93
Kenneth's bedding was a present from my family. We had mentioned we
wanted bright colors ahead of time, but my mother stuck in a few
yellow and mint green sheets anyway 8-). We didn't really decorate
the nursery; we figured we'll wait to redo the room until he's old
enough to have some input. (Remember that no baby ever died from
sleeping in a nursery that didn't look like a nursery!)
But you can find non-pastel clothes, bedding, etc. for babies - just
be patient and keep looking. And give some hints to relatives and
friends before you end up getting sixty-three little baby blue stretch
suits with bunny appliques.
-Cindy Kandolf mamma to Kenneth, the gold medal boy
ci...@lise.unit.no (born 12 February 1994)
Trondheim, Norway
Isn't it funny that many of us who wouldn't have dreamed of
dressing our infants/babies in Mickey Mouse (or Barney) now
have toddlers/preschoolers who simply *adore* clothes with
"motifs"? Luckily, Isabel inherited *two* Mickey/Minnie
shirts from her cousins, so I only have to wash them
every *other* night :)
-Dena
You mean someone actually buys Hanna Anderson stuff? With their prices
I thought one could only RENT them :-)
Spiros
--
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos stri...@indy.net
Carmel, Indiana OUZO POWER
I can easily relate to this! Duckies and bunnies make me want to hurl!! If
there is an IKEA nearby, get some plain ol' striped duvets and sheets, and
shop Baby Gap, for one, to get normal clothing. And Doctor Dentons come in
solids!! Also, suggest sailboats as a border to your wife -- not nearly so
nauseating!!
Tell me about it! I, who swore I would dress my daughter
gender-neutral, spent all day yesterday sorting through
3 large boxes of frilly little pink-and-white clothes
given to us by family and friends. Aaaaargh!
-- Michal, who absolutely positively draws the line
at lace headbands with pink sateen roses!
Kristen (mama to Kevin 9/17/93)
--
The opinions I express are not mine, but some one elses. They were magically implated in my head by a roaming band of hoodlum elves out for kicks.
>I've been reading this thread on and off, for the past week or so, and I
>have to say, that I LOVE pastels. Is that bad? I certainly don't think
>so. I guess, it's not fair. I'm the mother of a boy!!!:-)
Well, this spurred me to participate in this thread.
NO YOU ARE NOT BAD!!
PASTELS ARE OK!!
It seems to me people get so caught up in what in trying to avoid
"norms" that they create a new norm to which they adhere. Pastels in
the nursery are just one of those "norm" issues. People think "Oh!
My mom used pastels and argh! It just makes me sick to think of it."
Hmmm sounds more like rebellion than a justification to hate pastels.
Others seem to think only ignorant, third rate people use pastels for
their offspring. hmmm Sounds like elitism to me. Other people claim
that pastels aren't good for babies and that brights are better for
their visual development. hmmmm Let's see some research on that. I
will say that there is definitely research indicating that infants
respond to contrast. But, there is nothing out there that shows that
pastels and low contrast cause any problems with the vision.
So, this said, let me provide MY .02 on pastels and brights.
1) All colors are beautiful and the whole array is what make this
world so mighty lovely to look at.
2) The tendency to use pastels may be more for the parent than
for the child. Pastels can be calming and peaceful. They may provide
a background for the tender emotions we feel for the young infant.
Thus parents might be responding to that inner sense of calm and peace
and gentleness. Bold colors a vibrant and energetic. You begin to
see this in the bedrooms and clothes when the child begins walking and
becomes more active.
3) Just as there are many people who find gentleness and calm in
the pastels there are others who need the bright, entergetic colors in
their lives. So, be it. Have your brights and let the others have
their pastels. IT IS OK. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME AS YOU.
now for my personal preference. I was not keen on pastels for my
first child. As a matter of fact I didn't even have a nursery until
he was almost 2. Then his nursery had a bright jungle rug on the
floor and multiple colors in toys and accessories. his clothing
tended toward untraditional hues....mauve, lilac, mustard, pea green,
coral, teal, periwinkle blue and safflower blues. But, he had plenty
of the traditional brights and pastels.
For his new playroom in the new house, I am painting one wall warm
lilac (lavendar with reddish warm base) and all the baskets holding
his toys are bright purple. He has purple pillows (thanks to Target)
for leaning against the wall and reading. his furniture is wood and
white. The shelves are wood and his jungle rug is still on the floor.
His toys are a multitude of hues and make the room look vibrant and
enrgetic.
but, his bedroom is pastelish. He has pale sheets and blankets. The
room is cool, fresh and calm.
GADS! This got too long.
--
deantha "Momma" to Ez (2.75) pa 36
tidbits and cocktail info...on average the infant learning sign
language will sign its first word at about 4 months of age.
When I was planning my baby's room, I wanted pastels. I found myself
explaining to everyone that, yes, I know babies supposedly are more
stimulated by the bright colors, but I want him to *sleep* in his room
and that may be difficult if it is covered with "stimulating" colors! I
had a real hard time finding pastels since primary colors are "in" these
days (even at the fabric store).
Clothes are a separate issue; some people look good in pastels, others
look good in primaries. My neice looked *great* in pink, while Luke
looks best in royal blue.
So, you aren't alone in liking pastels!
Dana
(mama to Luke 5/12/93)
--
Dana L. Uehling Dana.U...@gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
Code 522.1
Greenbelt, MD 20771
> When I was planning my baby's room, I wanted pastels. I found myself
> explaining to everyone that, yes, I know babies supposedly are more
> stimulated by the bright colors, but I want him to *sleep* in his room
> and that may be difficult if it is covered with "stimulating" colors! I
> had a real hard time finding pastels since primary colors are "in" these
> days (even at the fabric store).
>
> Clothes are a separate issue; some people look good in pastels, others
> look good in primaries. My neice looked *great* in pink, while Luke
> looks best in royal blue.
>
> So, you aren't alone in liking pastels!
You are absolutly right. Our sons crib quilt and curtains are pretty pink
and blue bunnies. I picked them out and made them myself, even knowing
that Kevin was supposed to be a boy. I got alot of odd looks from friends
who thought I should use the brights reds and blues. Even my father
bought the mobile with bright clowns instead of the cute bunny one that I
had wanted. But I do admit that Kevin loved it and it was probably more
enjoyable then the bunnies for him.
But his clothes are bright and vibrant. He has very few pastels among
them. Of course, I'm not sure that it matters to him, he hasn't hardly
noticed that he wears them!!
While I prefer the primaries, I have to admit that my Christopher
(who have very little fuzz and what is there is that white/blonde
stuff that you can't see but it feels sweet :)
looks so soft in baby blue. Alex has orange hair so he has never
looked as good in pastels as he does the bright and bold shades
of blue and green. But Chris, that pale skin and white hair
scream for baby blue.
Billie
Ericka
e...@crew.umich.edu
There are some stains that won't come out, no matter how much
Shout is rubbed into them beforehand. Brights camoflauge these
stains. Pastels don't. At least whites can be bleached
as a last resort.
If I ever have a daughter, she will rarely wear pastels
fo that very reason. (It's pretty easy to avoid pastels
in boys' clothes)
--
Diane Pedersen
diane.p...@att.com
Member since `85, '94 Yrbk p. 127
Anyway, they're nice because you can rearrange and remove them easily
and can change the theme of the room. They also make borders but I
haven't tried them.
As for the pastel clothes topic, I really like the Children's Place.
They *do* have *some* pastels but the clothes are all cotton and sturdy
(and really cute). I especially like the rugby one-piece things. And
for the cyber space record, I don't care for the mannerist colors of
Gymborie....
Margot - mom to Linus (12/23/93)
--
--
"The eagle and the serpent are at war in me,
The serpent fighting for blind desire, the eagle for clarity."
-"Don Juan's Reckless Daughter", Joni Mitchell
>I've been spot-checking these posts and I haven't seen
>anyone yet voice my main preference for brights over pastels
>-- LAUNDRY!!!!
>There are some stains that won't come out, no matter how much
>Shout is rubbed into them beforehand. Brights camoflauge these
>stains. Pastels don't. At least whites can be bleached
>as a last resort.
Out of desperation, I have discovered that some stains can be treated &
removed with bleach even though the label says "non-chlorine bleach only."
Some of the items I have used chlorine bleach on are:
Sara's Prints long underwear
BioBottoms white t-shirts with big bright colored designs
Hanna Anderson striped shirts (one disaster, several successes)
Other t-shirts with bright designs
When an item is so badly stained that it has been relegated to the "paint
shirt" pile, I often try chlorine bleach. All of the above were relatively
expensive items, so I was very glad to return them to their original
condition by ignoring the labels! And when it didn't work, I wasn't too
disappointed since the item was ruined by a stain anyway.
I have still never discovered the secret to restoring an item that has been
stained by another item of clothing when the colors ran. I have a few items
that are supposed to be white but instead turned a sickly yellow (from
bright yellow bike shorts) & a few others that are a pale pink (from red
shirts). Anyone know how to fix these?
Carol Fischer
Mom to Katie (2/12/89) & Mark (8/3/92)
I have found that the Amway products take out just about anything. My husband is a farmer, so I have lot's of grease and grass stains as well as all of the little suprises found on kid's clothes. nway carries a whole line of products and theie L.O.C. Regular (that I use) is non-toxic so I don't have to worry if the kids get a hold of it.
I have no connection with Amway, I just like their laundry products. Their phone number is 1-800-582-4598.
---
Margaret Mills | I keep hitting the Escape key.......
Mead Data Central | but I'm still here !
P. O. Box 933 |
Dayton Ohio, 45401 |
The secret is at the grocery store, in the dye section! Rit makes
a product called color-out, or something like that. If you get
to the item that has been inadvertently dyed before it goes in
the dryer, this stuff works like magic. I thought I'd ruined a
new white polo shirt by hang drying it next to a cheap bright
pink t-shirt...the dye remover took it right out.
I don't work for Rit, but I keep a couple of boxes of this stuff
around, just in case!
****************************************************************
* Valerie C. Bock Mom to Jim 7, Steve 5, Katie 3 *
* vb...@worf.infonet.net *
* *
* "Children cannot know what is in our art galleries and *
* libraries if we do not take them, any more than they can *
* know what is in our conscience if we do not tell them." *
* -Penelope Leach in _Children_First_ *
****************************************************************
-The secret is at the grocery store, in the dye section! Rit makes
-a product called color-out, or something like that. If you get
-to the item that has been inadvertently dyed before it goes in
-the dryer, this stuff works like magic. I thought I'd ruined a
-new white polo shirt by hang drying it next to a cheap bright
-pink t-shirt...the dye remover took it right out.
-
-I don't work for Rit, but I keep a couple of boxes of this stuff
-around, just in case!
-
And it doesnt always work. The Rit stuff has done a great job on some
Sesame Street Cookie Monster socks that got stuck in the red load, but did
nothing for a pair of sweatpants that met the same fate. Luckily, Emily
doesnt care if her sweatpants are now pink with flowers instead of white
with flowers. :-). I have found the stuff works about 50% of the time.
To avoid using it though, I have found great sucess with Tide with Color
Guard. I normally use ERA, which I find does quite well on stains, but
with the red load and the pink load I use Tide. The colors seem to stay
longer, and I get less bleeding. (that is, with the exception of the Red
sailor dress from Gymboree with the nice formarlly white collar - This is
the second time this dress did this - the first one I took back, and the
second one has been washed about three times, and for some reason on the
forth washing, became a pink and red dress. AUGHHHH Anybody have the
address for Gymboree?)
Tracy Barnett
Mother to Emily (1/5/91) and Haley (7/8/93)
Try Rit Color Remover. Works great for me (since I am forever mixing things
in the washer that have no business being there together).
Sandra Webb
Mom to Evan (7/25/86) and Benjamin (3/20/89)
: When an item is so badly stained that it has been relegated to the "paint
: shirt" pile, I often try chlorine bleach. All of the above were relatively
: expensive items, so I was very glad to return them to their original
: condition by ignoring the labels! And when it didn't work, I wasn't too
: disappointed since the item was ruined by a stain anyway.
: I have still never discovered the secret to restoring an item that has been
: stained by another item of clothing when the colors ran. I have a few items
: that are supposed to be white but instead turned a sickly yellow (from
: bright yellow bike shorts) & a few others that are a pale pink (from red
: shirts). Anyone know how to fix these?
Well, sort of - the answer is the same as yours - chlorine bleach. It
does fade the original color, but I figure a faded version is better
than a sickly new color.
My laundry secret for "organic" stains - blood, food, grass - is
Vivid brand non-chlorine bleach. I just squirt it on and let it
sit for a few minutes. This stuff even worked on blueberry stains
that had been sitting in the hamper for a week!
--
Laura Dolson
dol...@crl.ucsd.edu
White items that have been "bled on" can be cleaned with Rit "color
remover". Works wonders. Bleach never seems to take the color out, but the
Rit stuff is great. I don't work for them, I just use the color remover at
least once a month! Don't use it on colored items, just the whites that got
ruined.
Vickie
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Vickie Fowler | National Solar Observatory |
| vfo...@sunspot.noao.edu | P.O. Box 40 |
| (505) 434-7003 | Sunspot, NM 88349 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I do for stuff like that is use Soft Scrub. Rub it in with a
toothbrush, let it sit a few minutes, rinse a bit and throw in with the
rest of the wash. There is enough chlorine bleach in it to get rid of the
stain on the light part, but it doesn't bleed into the bright part or cause
fading. I have done this for years on striped and patterned clothing, but I
recently tried it on a pastel shirt, and it worked without leaving a circle.
The scariest use was getting mildew out of my son's band uniform. The
University of Florida uniforms have one bright orange arm, one bright blue
arm and white sections on the chest. He wanted to know if he could use
chlorine bleach on it. (Never mind that they are dry-clean only, and very
expensive to replace if ruined.)
Gosh, how do you describe Soft Scrub for people outside the U.S.? It's a
product for cleaning sinks, kind of a gritty toothpaste consistency.
Colleen K. Porter cpo...@freenet.ufl.edu
BS, MA, mother at home
Phillip (19), Julia (15), Becky (13), Elaine (3) and Lorissa (1)
- - - - - - - - - - - -
"To be upset over what you don't have us to waste what you
do have."
--Ken S. Keyes, Jr.
>In article <1994Sep21....@cs.brown.edu>,
>m...@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine) wrote:
>> While we are asing laundry questions, can anyone out there tell me how
>> to remove yellow sticker residue from a white shirt? I froze the
>> shirt and scraped off some of it, but there is this residue left
>> that I can't get out.
>>
>> -- Misty
>>
>Acetone! (Nail polish remover is basically acetone, and works great)
>After you remove the sticky stuff, you'll want to launder the shirt,
>because it will stink!
At least in the US, there is a product on the market call "Goo Gone" that
works great!!! It removes label sticky, gum, lip stick, etc. . It does not
have the strong smell that Acetone has and it is a lot safer.
Brian
I get gum, sticker residue out with a product called "Goo Gone". My husband
found it at the grocery store I think. You just soak the affected area with
Goo Gone, let it dry, then launder as usual. It's worked great for us!
I'm not affliated with Goo Gone, or whoever makes it, just a satisfied customer.
--
Marguerite Watson (PA p.171)
Mama to Rachel 5/28/89
and Betsy 9/12/91
email m...@network.com
Nail polish remover works really well for me...