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Ah, the joy of BF in Europe

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cjra

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Sep 13, 2006, 12:26:08 PM9/13/06
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At least in Switzerland where I am now - I can BF anywhere and no one
even bats an eyelash, in fact I have FIL gazing lovingly saying what a
beautiful natural thing it is and how happy he is to see his new
granddaughter nourished so....

Workingmom

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Sep 13, 2006, 12:37:28 PM9/13/06
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cjra skrev:

Yup!

And you'd even get less eyelashes in Scandinavia :-) Just smiles.

Tine, Denmark

Anne Rogers

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Sep 13, 2006, 3:15:46 PM9/13/06
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is it really that much of a problem in the US? I certainly didn't notice
anything different when we were there a month ago, given we're moving there
in 3 weeks, it would be useful to know what to expect, not that it's going
to make me change any habits!

Anne


cjra

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Sep 13, 2006, 4:54:32 PM9/13/06
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Nah. To be fair I haven't had any real issues in the US, it's more that
I know it makes certain people uncomfortable, or at least awkward, so
I'm more concientious. When in CH, I know all DH's friends and family
don't even flinch at the prospect of seeing a boob. I'm in a very
touristy town at the moment, with visitors from all over the world, and
the median age is probably 50-55. I've BF'd *everywhere* - partly
because I have little choice if I don' twant to be locked in a hotel
room, and if anyone gives me a "look" at all, it's a smile, tho
probably not due to BF but to the baby I'm carrying. She's the star
attraction, esp in her sling.

JennP

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Sep 13, 2006, 10:11:57 PM9/13/06
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"Anne Rogers" <anne...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> is it really that much of a problem in the US?

I've never had a problem.

JennP.


emilymr

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Sep 14, 2006, 12:23:49 AM9/14/06
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JennP wrote:
> "Anne Rogers" <anne...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > is it really that much of a problem in the US?
>
> I've never had a problem.

Me, neither -- not in the mall, not on the plane, not in the airport
terminal, not downtown in the park, not in the middle of Starbucks (OK,
you get the picture; I'm starting to sound like Dr. Seuss here). Anne,
IIRC, you're moving to Portland, right? Or was it Seattle? Both of
those are very progressive cities, and I'd be very surprised if you had
any trouble.

Em
mama to Micah, 11/14/04

Sue

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:04:06 AM9/14/06
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"Anne Rogers" <anne...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> is it really that much of a problem in the US?

Never had a problem, neither has any of friends that are breastfeeding now.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)


Nikki

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Sep 14, 2006, 9:30:23 AM9/14/06
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"Anne Rogers" <anne...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

it really that much of a problem in the US? I certainly didn't notice


> anything different when we were there a month ago, given we're moving
> there in 3 weeks, it would be useful to know what to expect, not that it's
> going to make me change any habits!

I've never had a problem and I've NIP a lot, even with bigger kids.


--
Nikki, mama to
Hunter 4/99
Luke 4/01
Brock 4/06
Ben 4/06


PattyMomVA

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Sep 14, 2006, 9:53:02 AM9/14/06
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"Anne Rogers" wrote and I snipped:

Seattle seems to be a progressive city, so I don't think you should worry
about NIP there. I have had some problems and felt self-conscious many
times. There were the teenaged boys pointing and stealing glances at a mall
in Denver. There were the 3 adults glancing and whispering in the airport
in Virginia. There was the waiter in a restaurant who completely abandoned
our table during the nursing session.

And, so many women cover up with blankets. I don't think they'd do so if
the environment was more breastfeeding-friendly. Just yesterday, the mom I
was talking to while our sons practiced soccer covered up as she nursed. I
was standing right next to her as the baby latched on, and there was
absolutely no skin showing. Why then throw a blanket on? This baby was her
5th, so I thought she would have been more comfortable than she appeared.

It would be bliss to travel to a place where it was more taken for granted.

-Patty, mom of 1+2


Sue

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Sep 14, 2006, 10:54:59 AM9/14/06
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"PattyMomVA" <spam_pch...@mitre.org> wrote in message

> And, so many women cover up with blankets. I don't think they'd do so if
> the environment was more breastfeeding-friendly. Just yesterday, the mom
I
> was talking to while our sons practiced soccer covered up as she nursed.
I
> was standing right next to her as the baby latched on, and there was
> absolutely no skin showing. Why then throw a blanket on?

So what.!! If she is more comfortable for herself to cover, I don't see why
it's such a big deal. I think women should do what they are comfortable
with. It seems it's not enough to breastfeed, but we have to conform to what
others think should be done. Perhaps the baby was easily distracted. It's
just not a big deal at all.

PattyMomVA

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:24:06 PM9/14/06
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"Sue" wrote:
> "PattyMomVA" wrote in message

I think you misunderstood me. I don't think it's a big deal or that anyone
should conform. I agree that women should do what they're comfortable with.
I have nothing judgmental to say about a nursing mom covering up.

What I was saying is that if we lived in a culture where breastfeeding was
absolutely accepted, I doubt women would even think of covering up. The
fact that many do cover up implies something about the acceptance of NIP in
my locality. I don't think anthropologist Katherine Dettwyler saw any women
of Mali covering up when their babies nursed. It would never occur to them
to do so.

-Patty, mom of 1+2


Anne Rogers

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Sep 14, 2006, 2:58:38 PM9/14/06
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> Me, neither -- not in the mall, not on the plane, not in the airport
> terminal, not downtown in the park, not in the middle of Starbucks (OK,
> you get the picture; I'm starting to sound like Dr. Seuss here). Anne,
> IIRC, you're moving to Portland, right? Or was it Seattle? Both of
> those are very progressive cities, and I'd be very surprised if you had
> any trouble.

right 2nd time, though we're not moving to the city itself, DH will work in
Redmond, our temporary accomodation is likely to be there, or very close to
there, we'll likely end up living a little further away, maybe Issaquah, or
some of the north bits of Redmond. I read on a Seattle website some very
disparaging comments about the conservative nature of those who live on the
Eastside! I don't end up NIPing that much at all, Ada is 15 months, and
tends to only have 2-3 feeds a day, I suspect she will up that a bit as she
gets better at telling me what she wants!

Anne


emilymr

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Sep 14, 2006, 7:05:07 PM9/14/06
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PattyMomVA wrote:
> I don't think anthropologist Katherine Dettwyler saw any women
> of Mali covering up when their babies nursed. It would never occur to them
> to do so.

Although maybe all the women who *wanted* to cover up felt weird
because no-one else was doing so... ;)

Sorry... couldn't resist. Blame it on pregnancy.

betsy

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Sep 15, 2006, 10:26:17 PM9/15/06
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Anne Rogers wrote:
> right 2nd time, though we're not moving to the city itself, DH will work in
> Redmond, our temporary accomodation is likely to be there, or very close to
> there, we'll likely end up living a little further away, maybe Issaquah, or
> some of the north bits of Redmond.

The northwest seems to be one of the more breastfeeding friendly areas
of the US. Since you are moving in 3 weeks, you may be there in time
to attend part or all of La Leche League of Washington's October 13,
14, & 15 conference in Redmond. These only happen every other year.
In addition to being a great conference it would give you a chance to
meet many local women with an interest in breastfeeding.
www.lllwaconf.org/

--Betsy

Anne Rogers

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Sep 17, 2006, 1:56:42 PM9/17/06
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>
> The northwest seems to be one of the more breastfeeding friendly areas
> of the US. Since you are moving in 3 weeks, you may be there in time
> to attend part or all of La Leche League of Washington's October 13,
> 14, & 15 conference in Redmond. These only happen every other year.
> In addition to being a great conference it would give you a chance to
> meet many local women with an interest in breastfeeding.
> www.lllwaconf.org/

sounds interesting, I'll probably feel stupidly nervous, but you're right,
it would be a good thing to do!

Anne


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