Age question
Tracy Hubbard
After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
--
Have a great day,
Tracy
When the most important things in our life happen we quite often do
not know, at the moment, what is going on.
- C. S. Lewis
Mary
Tracy Hubbard wrote:
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
Hi Tracy,
I'm in Atlanta, Georgia (USA). My nursling will be 2 years in 2 weeks!
Never thought I'd be nursing a 2 year old. I blame this group. She
only nurses before bed and usually in the morning before we get up,
and her sessions keep getting shorter, so I think she is weaning (which
is fine by me, I'm glad for it to be her decision, but I think I'm ready
for it to be over).
The year Emma was born, there were 9 other babies born in our
neighborhood. All but one were breastfed. All nursed until at least
1 year (and some are still going). I don't know if this is typical
of the Atlanta area or not, although I often see women nursing in
public, with no problems.
Mary
Meredith Edwards-Cornwall
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where
> are you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I nursed my son until he was 22 months, and weaned due to a pregnancy.
But I would have continued if I hadn't "fallen pregnant." :-)
My daughter is my last baby, and I will nurse her until at LEAST two.
Probably much longer, as I'm too lazy to wean (only half kidding here).
Meredith
mom to Alexander (2.5) and Elizabeth (7 weeks)
Shannon Larkin
once or twice a week, now.
-Shannon
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elizabeth emerald
strong. i plan to breastfeed until he weans himself. however long that will
be only he knows. i love breastfeeding him. it's one of the most enjoyable
aspects of motherhood for me (even though we had a rocky start).
--
elizabeth (in australia)
DS - born 20-aug-02
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witte
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
Ohio, USA, nursling will be 2 in 3 weeks. NOT the norm around here as most
children are never breast fed at all.
Roseann
Clisby Williams
Tracy Hubbard wrote:
>Hi,
>After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
>formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
>you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
>I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
>average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
>Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
>
>
>
I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and nursing my 15-month-old (I don't consider 15
months to be an *older" nurser, but it's older than 6 months.) I have
no idea when
women here typically stop nursing, although I've certainly known plenty who
went past a year. However, I don't know of any reason to suppose
Atlanta is different from
the U.S. as a whole, where I think the average length of nursing is
something like
3-4 months.
Clisby
Clisby
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Sue
and then wean after that.
--
Sue
mom to three girls
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Emily
where I live exactly, but it's in the US. Among my friends
with 11mo & older, I know that 3 at least are still nursing.
Don't know about a fourth.
Emily
mom to Toby
iphigenia
> Where are you living and how old are your children that are still
> nursing?
I live in Utah, USA (lived in western NY for the first 6 months of DS'
life).
DS will be 22 months on the 9th.
--
iphigenia
www.tristyn.net
"i have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
i do not think that they will sing to me."
Michelle S. Spina
>
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
Hi Tracy,
I nursed DS until he was nearly 3 (we did child-led weaning - by age 2
years, 9 months, he was down to one nursing a day, and then he just
slowly gave up that one). I think I was the longest nurser in my group
of local friends, but many nursed until nearly 2 years. My DD is only
6.5 months old, and there certainly isn't an end in sight for us now.
I'll do child-led weaning this time around as well. I am a BIG proponent
of letting the child decide when to wean - nursing was a savior for the
tantrumy months. I can't imagine living without it.
If you are stuck on the "average" age of nursing in your head - feel
free to give that up! Since when do you settle for being simply average?
Go for the glory, mommy! :-)
m.
James 12/17/99, who now won't even try EBM in a cup because "milky is
for BABIES!"
Lauren 10/18/02, happily nursing as much as she can, whenever she can!
Michelle S. Spina
>
> Hi Tracy,
>
> I nursed DS until he was nearly 3 (we did child-led weaning - by age 2
> years, 9 months, he was down to one nursing a day, and then he just
> slowly gave up that one). I think I was the longest nurser in my group
> of local friends, but many nursed until nearly 2 years. My DD is only
> 6.5 months old, and there certainly isn't an end in sight for us now.
> I'll do child-led weaning this time around as well. I am a BIG proponent
> of letting the child decide when to wean - nursing was a savior for the
> tantrumy months. I can't imagine living without it.
>
> If you are stuck on the "average" age of nursing in your head - feel
> free to give that up! Since when do you settle for being simply average?
> Go for the glory, mommy! :-)
Oops - sorry. I'm in the Boston, MA area.
m.
Nikki
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children.
> Where are you living and how old are your children that are still
> nursing? I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can
> gather, the average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I live in South Dakota (USA). Hunter nursed until he was 20 months and Luke
is nursing at 24 months. I think I'm in the minority but I do know quite a
few people that have nursed well past 12 months. I don't hear much about
breastfeeding at all in this area but I have never received a negative
comment or look when nursing in public either. I've nursed both boys in
public up until they were about 20 months old.
I think many woman here wean when they go back to work (6-12 weeks) and I
read a flyer at the library last month that reported South Dakota has the
highest percentage of working mothers in the USA. I've also read somewhere
that it is middle class woman with higher education that are the most likely
to breastfeed and that has certainly been the case among my real life
aquaintences (of course there have certainly been exceptions on both sides
though too).
--
Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)
Michelle J. Haines
tr...@kingston.net says...
>
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
Chugwater, WY, USA. He'll be three in July.
Michelle
Flutist
--
Yal-di ha-tov veh ha-rach, Al ti-ra veh al tif-chad
My son, I have nothing I can give
But this chance that you may live
I pray we'll meet again, If He will deliver us
-- For Xander [9/22/98 - 2/23/99]
Shannon Larkin
be a lot of extended nursers here - or at least in my circle.
My most poignant story is my friend, a mom of twins, who needed to go on a
cholesterol med incompatible with nursing. She put it off until her kids
were a year old so that they would have, as she put it, the bare minimum.
Would that the rest of the country considered a year the "bare minimum"!
-Shanon
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Emily
>
> If you are stuck on the "average" age of nursing in your head - feel
> free to give that up! Since when do you settle for being simply average?
> Go for the glory, mommy! :-)
>
I love this!
Emily
mom to Toby 1yo
Circe
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children.
> Where are you living and how old are your children that are still
> nursing?
I am in Southern California. I am currently nursing my 14mo (boy, it's hard
to type that! I still can't quite get my head around the idea that he's a
year old!). I breastfed my eldest until he was 3y1m and my middle child
until she was 2y3m. Since they are nearly exactly 2 years apart in age, I
tandem-nursed them for about 14 months.
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can
> gather, the average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
FWIW, the statistics in California were pretty dismal the last time I
checked. Although rates of breastfeeding initiation are relatively high here
(around 75%, IIRC, compared to a national rate in the US of 60%), by 9
weeks, only about 20% are still breastfeeding. By 6 months, it's down to
10%.
IOW, my kids are definitely an anomaly, even in progressive California :-<!
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I'm in Merritt, BC and I nursed my twins for one year. Joshua
self-weaned but Katerina wouldn't nurse without him (long story) so
unfortunately she weaned as well (but she wasn't ready).
--
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SAHM to Katerina and Joshua
October 20, 2001
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GO, CANUCKS, GO!!!!!!!!
Jan Andrea H.
only because I was pregnant and just couldn't take the nipple stimulation
anymore. I didn't want to wean him (and neither did he!), though.
I have no idea what the average age to wean around here is. I have met a
number of women who went to a year and then felt compelled to wean, and a
couple who went longer; and also a whole lot who weaned at or before six
months. But a lot of the latter introduced formula pretty early, too, which
I'm sure has an impact.
Jan
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Vicki S
> ... Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
I live in Bloomington, Indiana, USA. My daughter will be a year old on
the 19th of this month, and she is still nursing. In addition, my
current plan is that she will self-wean. I will not wean her, even if
she is still nursing two or three years from now.
---
--- Vicki in Indiana
Married my dear husband Joshua on May 21, 1995.
Ima shel Raziel Josiah, born 11/16/99 and breastfed for 22 months;
and Ima shel Zipporah Yael, born at home, 05/19/02.
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Baby names I like: Theodore, Corinne, Lionel, Adele, Timothy, Amelia,
Chloe, Tobias, Pooh Bear Pear Pie.
Jenn
<roughl...@hotmail.com> writes
>On Tue, 6 May 2003 07:36:55 -0400, "Tracy Hubbard"
><tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
>>formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
>>you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
>>I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
>>average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
>>Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
>
>I'm in England and I'm nursing my 18 month old daughter, but I am an
>unusual specimen around here <g>
>
>Wendy
>Mummy to Rebecca Grace
Another Brit, nursed DS 'till he was 4, and still nursing DS#2 at 12
months.
I've never met another nursing mother with anything other than a babe in
arms (except Alison I think).
--
Jenn
UK
Tine Andersen
"Jenn" <je...@shadowdale.demon.co.uk> skrev i en meddelelse
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Nursed Niels until 2 - years, that is! No big deal - no-one reacted
negative.
Tine
Leslie
My current nursling is 26 months old, nurses frequently, and shows no signs of
letting up.
I have three "big kids," who nursed 26, 38, and 26 months. #2 and #3 were
tandem-nursed for 26 months, then weaned together.
I am extremely unusual (try weird) for my area. In fact, I'm about the only
mainstream-looking person I know who engages in baby-led weaning (i.e. I am not
crunchy, I drive a <gasp> SUV, I'm socially (not politically) conservative
,etc.).
Leslie
AmyAmy4734
>Hi,
>After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
>formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
>you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
>I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
>average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
>Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I am in Northwest Washington State. I nursed my older daughter until she was
about 3 years, 4 months old. At that time, I was pregnant, and she weaned
because my milk supply dried up. My little one is 6 weeks old, and I will
nurse her until she decides to stop. Patricia still occasionally asks for EBM
in her sippy cup. She will be 4 in a week.
Amy
mom to Patricia (5-12-99)
Christina (3-21-03)
Sharon Bailey Glasco
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
Hi Tracy,
I am currently nursing an almost 3 year old (next month), although
only before bedtime, once occassionally at night, and first thing in
the morning. I am pregnant with #2 and am hoping to have DS pretty
much weaned by then (especially the bedtime and overnight nursing),
but am not necessarily counting on it!
I live in rural central Illinois, which I have found to be not very
breastfeeding friendly. But....we are moving to Portland, OR this
summer, so I am excited to be getting back to an area of the US that
is more progressive about all aspects of breastfeeding.
Sharon
Mom to James 6.2.00
EDD #2 5 December
M.S.A. Straw
> Tracy Hubbard wrote:
>
> > Where are you living and how old are your children that are still
> > nursing?
I'm in madison wisconsin, and my little boobie pig will be 2 next
thursday. we're working on night weaning, and I had *planned* on weaning
completely by 2, but I have now decided that if he'll give up the boobie
at night, he can nurse another year. Partially because he's such an
active and determined lil bugger, and I can't imagine going through the
maelstrom of life with a 2 year old without something to help him wind
down fast when he needs it.
--
Maevele
DGoree
<<Where are you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?>>
I live in Texas. My boys nursed to about age three and a half each; I was
tandem nursing them for seventeen months before my older son weaned.
My daughter is twenty months old and still going strong. Several of my
colleagues and a few of my cousins either are or were extended nursers but
among most of my friends and relatives, I am considered, um, eccentric in this
regard. This does not bother me in the slightest as I can see the benefits in
my children every day.
Mary Ellen
William (8)
Matthew (6)
Margaret (1)
Iuil
"Tracy Hubbard" wrote
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I'm in Ireland and DD is 10 months old.
I'm definitely the oddity here since only 40% of mothers actually bf at all
(even just once) and it's estimated to be just 10% at 6 weeks :-(.
Jean
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sharalyn
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I'm in Washington State and nursing my almost 20 month old son.
Sharalyn
mom to Alexander James (9/21/01)
DGoree
<<I am extremely unusual (try weird) for my area. In fact, I'm about the only
mainstream-looking person I know who engages in baby-led weaning (i.e. I am not
crunchy, I drive a <gasp> SUV, I'm socially (not politically) conservative
,etc.).>>
Can I sit by you? I could have written the above, except that I drive a
minivan instead of an SUV.
Emily Roysdon
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
So why not be "above average" and keep nursing? :-) I've got two kids,
Noah, who just turned 5, and Rebekah, who will be 3 in June. So, that's
5 consecutive years of nursing, and nearly three years of tandem
nursing. I wouldn't change a thing.
Welcome to the group!
Emily
kristi
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I live near Detroit, MI, USA and my son is 22 months.
Kristi
HollyLewis
>formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
>you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
>I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
>average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
>Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
>Have a great day,
>Tracy
The average age at which most babies in the Western world are deprived of
breastmilk is, sadly, much younger than 6 months. :-( But the online
population of moms is, on average, better educated, older and higher income
than the general population of moms, and those are the same groups that are
more likely to breastfeed, at all and for longer periods of time.
Which is sort of weird, actually, given than breastfeeding is so much *cheaper*
than formula -- you'd think people with less money would be more likely to bf
rather than the other way around. But I digress.
I live in the Bay Area in California, and breastfeeding, at all and for an
extended time, is much more common here than in many other places. I don't
feel at all strange about nursing my 27-month-old. In public, if need be
(though that hasn't happened much in the last year or so).
I don't really know anyone who switched to formula at ~6 months. The formula
users I know IRL all quit breastfeeding or had to supplement earlier, due to
newborn problems that they couldn't (or chose not to invest the necessary time
and effort to) overcome. Online, I know some people who began supplementing
with formula sometime between 4 months and a year, mostly because of difficulty
pumping at work, and one woman who had to switch to formula when her baby was
about 8 months due to her own health problems. But anyway, if you think about
it, it makes NO sense to get through the initial hurdle of latch training, sore
nipples, constant nursing, etc. and then stop just as it's getting easier! You
have to go invest in bottles and formula, get baby to accept the change, figure
out a new routine for preparing, carrying and washing the bottles, and then go
through a whole new hassle 6 months or a year later when you need to wean the
baby off the bottles! I do NOT understand why so many people do this! Okay,
teeth, I guess. But it's not THAT hard to teach a baby not to bite. And I
suppose if you've been supplementing all along going to all bottles isn't as
much of a change. But I still don't understand the advantage.
Anyway, I intend to allow my son to choose when to wean -- although I did
encourage him to 'cut back' as he got older, because I work and wanted to stop
pumping -- which I was able to do entirely when he was just 13 months. At
about 18 months his last 'during the day' nursing session was eliminated, and
not long after that he no longer needed to nurse in the middle of the night, so
now he only bf's at bedtime and usually first thing in the a.m. I could live
with that for a long time.
Holly
Mom to Camden, 2 yrs.
HollyLewis
>checked. Although rates of breastfeeding initiation are relatively high here
>(around 75%, IIRC, compared to a national rate in the US of 60%), by 9
>weeks, only about 20% are still breastfeeding. By 6 months, it's down to
>10%.
>
>IOW, my kids are definitely an anomaly, even in progressive California :-<!
Wow. Last time I saw anything quoted for the Bay Area, it was about 95%
initiation and 60% at 3 (2? 6?) months. But I know the numbers for babies
older than 12 months are quite low. You wouldn't know it from all the
newsletter articles about 3-year-olds having weaning parties and such things I
see. Of the people I know personally around here whose bf history I know,
everyone who's made it past the first couple months has continued to at least 9
months or so, and quite a few have gone until 2 or 3 years.
Lauren
> > Hi,
> > After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> > formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where
are
> > you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> > I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> > average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> > Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
We are in London, and Alex is 3 and a half - and still nursing - when I went
to see my doctor to ask to try taking Metformin, it was Alex who asked him
if he could still have 'loads more milk' !!!!
Lauren
Circe
>> FWIW, the statistics in California were pretty dismal the last time I
>> checked. Although rates of breastfeeding initiation are relatively
>> high here (around 75%, IIRC, compared to a national rate in the US
>> of 60%), by 9 weeks, only about 20% are still breastfeeding. By 6
>> months, it's down to 10%.
>>
>> IOW, my kids are definitely an anomaly, even in progressive
>> California :-<!
>
> Wow. Last time I saw anything quoted for the Bay Area, it was about
> 95% initiation and 60% at 3 (2? 6?) months.
Well, yeah, but you guys are pretty crunchy up there compared to the rest of
us Californians <g>! And I live in San Diego County, land of many
conservatives and military families (and my suspicion is the military moms
tend to be in the less-likely-to-breastfeed demographic).
> Of the people I know personally
> around here whose bf history I know, everyone who's made it past the
> first couple months has continued to at least 9 months or so, and
> quite a few have gone until 2 or 3 years.
That's my experience, as well. Those who get past the first few months seem
to go for a year or even longer. It's just that the proportion of moms who
make it past the second month is pretty low. Which is pretty much what the
figure I quoted shows.
HollyLewis
>us Californians <g>!
Berkeley? Crunchy? ;-)
And I live in San Diego County, land of many
>conservatives and military families (and my suspicion is the military moms
>tend to be in the less-likely-to-breastfeed demographic).
>
I'm sure you're right about that.
Random story: We visited Legoland (not too far from where Barbara lives, I
will explain for the benefit of others) when DS was 7 months old. I saw plenty
of babies breastfeeding there and plenty of babies with bottles, neither of
which seems remarkable. But I was struck by the, to me, odd sight of a pair of
moms sitting together on a bench, each with a young baby of similar ages, who
seemed to be friends -- and one was NIP while the other fed her baby a bottle.
I'm not sure why this seemed so strange to me except that IME new moms tend to
gravitate toward other new moms with the same feeding practices to be their
mommy friends, you know?
>That's my experience, as well. Those who get past the first few months seem
>to go for a year or even longer. It's just that the proportion of moms who
>make it past the second month is pretty low. Which is pretty much what the
>figure I quoted shows.
>--
>Be well, Barbara
So why the idea that seems to float around out there that the "typical" or
"average" age to stop breastfeeding is about 6 months? Heck, *I* thought that
before DS was born. (I think I thought he would just go straight from bf to
solid foods all at once. Not that I actually really thought about it.)
I know people who've stopped earlier and people who've stopped later, and
*none* who've stopped at about 6 months. But all the people I know who aren't
mothers (yet) and many people with newborns seem to think that 6 months (or
when the baby gets teeth, or when the baby starts solids, or something else
that translates into about 6 months) is normal. Why?
Tracy Hubbard
to my question has been overwhelming! I certainly am inspired to talk to my
L.C. and see if we can't get a boost in supply and cut out the formula! I
mean, if people can continue to nurse (sometimes even through a pregnancy)
why can't I boost my supply and pump to give in bottles rather than give
formula?! Maybe I can solve my pumping problems with a better pump?!
Thoughts......
--
Have a great day,
Tracy
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not know, at the moment, what is going on.
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>
> I know people who've stopped earlier and people who've stopped later, and
> *none* who've stopped at about 6 months. But all the people I know who aren't
> mothers (yet) and many people with newborns seem to think that 6 months (or
> when the baby gets teeth, or when the baby starts solids, or something else
> that translates into about 6 months) is normal. Why?
>
> Holly
> Mom to Camden, 2 yrs.
A good friend of mine bf each of her kids until 6 months, and
then quickly weaned them to formula. She really didn't like
bf (and had to pump, working full time from 6weeks), and wanted
to give them what she saw as the minimum to get the main benefits
of bf.
Nikki
> Don't stop the answers, but I felt I needed to say thank you! The
> response to my question has been overwhelming! I certainly am
> inspired to talk to my L.C. and see if we can't get a boost in supply
> and cut out the formula! I mean, if people can continue to nurse
> (sometimes even through a pregnancy) why can't I boost my supply and
> pump to give in bottles rather than give formula?! Maybe I can solve
> my pumping problems with a better pump?! Thoughts......
Oh wow! That is just fantastic!! :-)
I have found this board to be an absolute wealth of very good and accurate
information. If you start a new thread and post some of the specifics of
your situation, I bet you'll get a ton of information!!!
--
Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)
Leslie
I wish you could! It's hard to find friends who share all my values. Some
times I feel like I am the only one around like me!
I could have written the above, except that I drive a
>minivan instead of an SUV.
And you are even Catholic, too, IIRC. Well at least I know there are others
out there--just wish they were here!
Leslie
Tracey
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I live in CT. My now 6 year old DD weaned at age 4 years 9 months. Now I
am nursing a 9 week old.
toypup
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
DS weaned at 21 months. I live in California.
Melania
> But anyway, if you think about it, it makes NO sense to get through the initial hurdle of latch training, sore nipples, constant nursing, etc. and then stop just as it's getting easier>!
Hear, hear! Whenever people asked me (while pregnant) how long I
planned to nurse, I always answered "as long as baby wants to!" I live
in Vancouver, Canada, and it seems like this is a pretty common
philosophy here - I met a woman earlier this week who told me that her
first 6 weeks breastfeeding were "excruciatingly" painful, and the
next six months were "somewhat" painful, and that then she nursed till
Michelle was 2.5 years old. She said she'd worked so hard to get to
the point where it felt nice and natural that there was no way she was
going to deprive them both of the experience!
Melania (nursing 4-month-old Joffre - and it just keeps getting
easier!)
Melania
> Don't stop the answers, but I felt I needed to say thank you! The response
> to my question has been overwhelming! I certainly am inspired to talk to my
> L.C. and see if we can't get a boost in supply and cut out the formula! I
> mean, if people can continue to nurse (sometimes even through a pregnancy)
> why can't I boost my supply and pump to give in bottles rather than give
> formula?! Maybe I can solve my pumping problems with a better pump?!
> Thoughts......
Hi Tracy!
When I was six weeks old and still not sleeping more than 20 minutes
at a stretch, my Mom got talked into supplementing with formula, rice
cereal, you name it. People kept telling her I would sleep if only she
"filled me up". When I was four months old and *still* not sleeping
much, she decided the advice she'd gotten was wrong and she took me
off everything but breastmilk. She says I didn't suffer at all from
the sudden elimination of all that junk from my diet. She then nursed
me till I weaned myself (at age 13 months). Her supply must have
dropped when I was on all that other stuff, but it came back!
This is, incidentally, the story she kept telling me through Joffre's
first two months, when I was worrying about whether I had enough milk
for him (based on FIL and MIL's extremely well-meant pro-formula
advice . . . ).
All this to say - you can DEFINITELY boost your supply and cut out the
formula! Kudos to you for your initiative - keep us posted as to how
it goes.
Melania in Vancouver
Bruce and Jeanne
she turned 3. I don't know what the average age children are when they
stop. My nephew is still nursing at 4 1/2...
Jeanne
Elana
old. We only do it about 3x a day (wakeup, down for nap, down for the
night), but he llluuurrrvvveeessss his milk :-).
I come from a family of bf'ers, which I always thought was the norm :-).
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Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?>
I'm in Virginia, USA. I nursed DS until he was 22 months (weaned because I
was pregnant). Currently nursing 3 week old DD. When I was pregnant with DS,
my goal was a year; thanks to this ng and a few friends, my thinking is now
much closer to 2 years . . . or beyond!
Around here, most people wean by 6 months, but I'm fortunate to have some
friends who nurse for at least a year.
--
Jodi
Mom to Oliver 2.17.01 & Arwen 4.14.03
Tracy Hubbard
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>> I come from a family of bf'ers, which I always thought was the norm :-).
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My mom couldn't bf me (she a c-section, which in those days was major
surgery and the Dr said No!) and my MIL only bf'd my Dh for about 2 months.
My mom is VERY pro BF and MIL will support whatever I want (so she says, but
I get the feeling she would prefer DS to be 'on the bottle')
After this bit of information, I'm sure you understand my question and how
grateful I am That I found this group when I did!
Elana
> My mom couldn't bf me (she a c-section, which in those days was major
> surgery and the Dr said No!) and my MIL only bf'd my Dh for about 2 months.
> My mom is VERY pro BF and MIL will support whatever I want (so she says, but
> I get the feeling she would prefer DS to be 'on the bottle')
Yeah, my mil asked if he was drinking from a beaker yet (implying milk).
Forget the fact that we've told her that he has a dairy sensitivity...
> After this bit of information, I'm sure you understand my question and how
> grateful I am That I found this group when I did!
hehehe...you know it! You do what you think is right...and most of the
time, it is :-).
zeldabee
You could always relocate to Front Royal, VA. There's a large community of
Catholics there who home school, home birth, BF, use slings, etc., *and*
drive SUVs.
HTH. ;o)
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kristi
Tracey,
what pump are you using? What have you tried so far to increase your
supply? How much of an increase do you need? Have you checked out the
pumpmoms group on Yahoo?
Kristi
Mary Gordon
nursed continuously for more than a decade, nursed through 2
pregnancies, and tandemed twice. Didn't plan it, it just happened.
Incidentally, I work full time.
Mary G.
(kids now 12, 9 and 5)
Tracy Hubbard
news:e24dd087.03050...@posting.google.com...
> what pump are you using?
A Medela single manual/elctric combo. It works best in manual mode.
I've tried a Gerber single and a double by the First Years. The Medela works
the best, but is very hard on the pinched nerve in my left shoulder.
>What have you tried so far to increase your supply?
Pumping, more pumping and nursing more often.
>How much of an increase do you need?
I'm not sure. Adam is taking an average of 3-4 ounces of formula as a
top up on those feeds. I've tried taking a yeild using my manual pump, but
no matter how long I pump I seem to stop at about 3oz combined from both
breasts. I hope that Adam is able to get more than that....
>Have you checked out the pumpmoms group on Yahoo?
I didn't know they existed. I'll have a look.
Tracy Hubbard
news:40b9e4c0.03050...@posting.google.com...
>all three kids nursed until they were 4 or so - so I
> nursed continuously for more than a decade, nursed >through 2
> pregnancies, and tandemed twice. > Incidentally, I >work full time.
How on earth do you manage that?!
Circe
> My mom couldn't bf me (she a c-section, which in those days was major
> surgery
Just to be pedantic, a c-section is *still* major surgery!
I'm glad you feel you're getting lots of support and information here. I
know I always have. It's a great group.
Circe
I know you asked Mary, but I also tandemmed while working full-time. I
actually found it easier to supply the baby with sufficient amounts of
expressed breastmilk when I was tandemming than I did when I was nursing
only one baby because I had *much* more milk. My body was making enough milk
to satisfy both the toddler and the baby, but I only needed to pump enough
to satisfy the baby (the toddler had soy milk and other drinks when I was at
work), so I always had plenty of milk to pump on weekdays.
It was really no problem.
DGoree
<<And you are even Catholic, too, IIRC. Well at least I know there are others
out there--just wish they were here!>>
Um, no. Baptist, actually. But my daughter goes to a Catholic daycare--does
that count? ;-)
I find that in most groups, I am way to the left politically and way to the
right in my private life. At church--a largely affluent, well-educated
congregation--I am fighting the good fight for breastfeeding and attachment
parenting in spite of the pernicious Ezzo believers. I told the minister in
charge of children that I did not ever want to be put as a volunteer in the
nursery because of the likelihood that some mother would ask me to do something
(delay a feeding, put a crying child in a crib, give a bottle to a
breastfeeding baby when the mother was available) that I would have to refuse
to do.
Mary Ellen
William (8)
Matthew (6)
Margaret (1)
Celeste Bannon Waterman
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
I'm in Guelph, Ontario and I nursed my oldest until he was 18 months (at
that point I was 6 months pregnant, and just couldn't take it). My second
is now 20 months, and we still nurse about 3 times a day - morning, right
after we get home from work/daycare, and usually once more in the evening.
I used to love the after-work nurse session, it was a great way to
transition back to being 'Mommy'. But I'm starting to feel a little tired
of it, so we may wean this summer.
I do have one friend who nursed her daughter until she was three, but most
of the mothers I know around me weaned somewhere between 8 months to a year,
usually when they went back to work or got frustrated about biting. I was
lucky to have my grandmother as a resource - she breastfed all 10 of hers
until they were at least 2 years old and she's always been ready to give me
a dose of encouragement whenever I need it.
Cheers,
Celeste
Tracy Hubbard
> Tracy Hubbard wrote:
> Just to be pedantic, a c-section is *still* major surgery!
You'd never know it by the way I was rushed around the hospital! They had me
up and out of bed within 9 hours and was expected to shower alone less than
24 hours later! The same hospital left my roommate (who delivered by
c-section as well) in bed, with a catheter in and expected her to care
(change and feed) a *10 pound* baby by herself. Her catheter remained in for
a full 12 hours after they brought her to my room!! What ever happened to
the 'recovery' room?!
Sorry, got a little off topic, but felt good to rant!
kristi
> "kristi" <EJPW...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
> news:e24dd087.03050...@posting.google.com...
>
>
> > what pump are you using?
> A Medela single manual/elctric combo. It works best in manual mode.
> I've tried a Gerber single and a double by the First Years. The Medela works
> the best, but is very hard on the pinched nerve in my left shoulder.
>
> >What have you tried so far to increase your supply?
> Pumping, more pumping and nursing more often.
>
> >How much of an increase do you need?
> I'm not sure. Adam is taking an average of 3-4 ounces of formula as a
> top up on those feeds. I've tried taking a yeild using my manual pump, but
> no matter how long I pump I seem to stop at about 3oz combined from both
> breasts. I hope that Adam is able to get more than that....
>
> >Have you checked out the pumpmoms group on Yahoo?
> I didn't know they existed. I'll have a look.
I guess I'm not sure why you are pumping-- are you working outside the
home, or pumping to try to stimulate your supply. Or is there another
reason? If you are pumping a lot, and intend to continue, you might
want to upgrade to a dual-electric pump.
Pumpmoms has a section in their files with lots of links that you will
find helpful. And it is a great group of women (no men that I know of,
sorry Larry)that are very supportive and understand the issues that
arise for folks who pump, whether they are exclusively pumping,
pumping for a preemie or child with other special needs, or pumping
for situations when mom and babe need to be separated.
Try eating oatmeal-- especially right before bed. Or take fenugreek
tablets (if you do not have glycemic problems). Both seem to help lots
of people get the boost they need.
HTH. Keep us posted on your progress, or issues that arise.
Kristi
Elana
> "Circe" <gua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Ef9ua.8773$hd6.3576@fed1read05...
> > Tracy Hubbard wrote:
> > Just to be pedantic, a c-section is *still* major surgery!
>
>
> You'd never know it by the way I was rushed around the hospital! They had me
> up and out of bed within 9 hours and was expected to shower alone less than
> 24 hours later! The same hospital left my roommate (who delivered by
> c-section as well) in bed, with a catheter in and expected her to care
> (change and feed) a *10 pound* baby by herself. Her catheter remained in for
> a full 12 hours after they brought her to my room!! What ever happened to
> the 'recovery' room?!
My catheter was in for about 24 hours...that's not right?
The showering alone and changing a baby...that shouldn't happen at all!
My hospital gave me a midwife in the morning to help me shower, and took
the baby during the night (brought him to me for feeding). I wasn't to
move around the first day...hubby took care of baby, and if he didn't,
they would have. I'm a little worried that not everyone gets that level
of care...
DGoree
<<You could always relocate to Front Royal, VA. There's a large community of
Catholics there who home school, home birth, BF, use slings, etc., *and*
drive SUVs.>>
I can't speak for Leslie (and as already noted I'm not Catholic anyway), but I
*don't* home school, home birth, etc. I'm actually pretty mainstream except in
taking care of my babies/toddlers--I do (well, did) use a sling and am a
long-term nursing, former tandem nursing, co-sleeping, attachment-parenting
anomaly among my mainstream friends.
Oh yes, I eat white sugar too. Lots of it. ;-)
Mary Ellen
non-crunchy mom to
Tine Andersen
"DGoree" <dgo...@aol.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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Puleeeze help this iggerant Dane: What is a SUV?
Tine
Circe
> zeldabee zeld...@apollo.geese.com wrote,
> <<You could always relocate to Front Royal, VA. There's a large
> community of Catholics there who home school, home birth, BF, use
> slings, etc., *and* drive SUVs.>>
>
> I can't speak for Leslie (and as already noted I'm not Catholic
> anyway), but I *don't* home school, home birth, etc. I'm actually
> pretty mainstream except in taking care of my babies/toddlers--I do
> (well, did) use a sling and am a long-term nursing, former tandem
> nursing, co-sleeping, attachment-parenting anomaly among my
> mainstream friends.
>
breastfeeders as being alike in other respects. I haven't found that to be
the case at all. It takes all kinds <g>!
Me, I'm an atheist with very liberal political views and consider myself
pretty strongly in the AP camp when it comes to my parenting style. I've
been either pregnant, breastfeeding, or both for the past 6.5 years and
tandemmed my oldest two. Pretty crunchy, right? Yet I also work full-time
(though I am now working mainly at home, which is awesome), don't home
school (don't want to), didn't home birth (though I would have liked to),
don't family bed (though we have been known to "musical bed" <g>), and drive
a minivan (but do drive the less gas-hoggy Nissan sedan when I need to
commute alone).
What does it all mean? I have *no* idea. But it's my life and I like it.
> Oh yes, I eat white sugar too. Lots of it. ;-)
>
For me, I'm afraid it's refined flour <g>!
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> Puleeeze help this iggerant Dane: What is a SUV?
"Sport Utility Vehicle"
Like the Volvo XC90
http://www.xc90.ca/en/home/index.html
--
Brigitte
SAHM to Katerina and Joshua
October 20, 2001
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/
GO, CANUCKS, GO!!!!!!!!
Tracy Hubbard
> Tracy Hubbard <tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
>
> > "Circe" <gua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Ef9ua.8773$hd6.3576@fed1read05...
That part was fine, it was the sending her to a ward room with 10 pound
baby and leaving her stuck in bed ('cause you can't get up with a catheter
in) with no help and expecting her to care for this baby! :)
> The showering alone and changing a baby...that shouldn't happen at all!
> My hospital gave me a midwife in the morning to help me shower, and took
> the baby during the night (brought him to me for feeding). I wasn't to
> move around the first day...hubby took care of baby, and if he didn't,
> they would have. I'm a little worried that not everyone gets that level
> of care...
I sure didn't. If it hadn't been for my DH and Mom I never would have
showered - much less gone to the bathroom! I got lucky and found a very
sweet student nurse who was able to 'hang out' with Adam so I could have
that all-important first.....
:)
Ah, well. I know better next time :)
Tracy Hubbard
"kristi" <EJPW...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
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> "Tracy Hubbard" <tr...@kingston.net> wrote in message
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>
> I guess I'm not sure why you are pumping--
only to try and stimulate supply. I don't go back to work until October.
I'll try the Fenugreek as I really don't like Oatmeal!!! Thanks for the
hints and wish us luck!
Circe
> "kristi" <EJPW...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
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>
> only to try and stimulate supply. I don't go back to work until
> October.
>
an article on Google that gave me a clear picture of what's going on), but
why do you think you don't have enough supply? I understand that you're
giving a couple of bottles each day, but it's not clear to me why you
started doing that. And just because you started doing it doesn't
necessarily mean you couldn't stop--though you might not want to do so
cold-turkey, but rather back slowly off the bottles to give your body time
to catch up with milk production.
Personally, I've never had any noticeable success in increasing my supply
without nursing more. Fenugreek, oatmeal, and other natural galactalogues
never had much effect on my supply, although I don't think they hurt. Pumps
are really pretty poor at removing milk from the breasts when compared to a
baby, and since supply at 6 months is determined by how much milk is
removed, you'd get better milk production stimulation from nursing your baby
than from using a pump. IOW, if you're getting 3 oz. every time you pump,
there's a pretty good likelihood that your baby could get 4-5 oz. if you
nursed instead. As a result, your body would produce 4-5 oz. more milk
instead of only 3 oz. more.
So I think if you want to increase your supply, the *best* way to do it
would be to slowly reduce the amount you're giving him in bottles by nursing
him first. If he still seems hungry after he finishes nursing, offer him a
bottle, but offer only a couple of ounces at a time. All things being equal,
you should be able to get rid of the bottles altogether over the span of a
few weeks (though if you have to go back to work, it might be wise to offer
him one 1-2 times a week to keep him in practice).
Jan Andrea H.
| Puleeeze help this iggerant Dane: What is a SUV?
It's a passenger vehicle built on a truck chassis. Basically, this gives
the vehicle a higher ground clearance and more towing capability. It also
gives it a higher rate of occupant and other-car-occupant deaths in crashes,
a propensity to tip over at ordinary highway speeds, gas mileage of between
10-20 MPG (where ordinary passenger cars average 20-35 MPG and even minivans
can get 15-25 MPG), and a whole host of political and social baggage.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have much extra room inside for said baggage --
usually comparable to a station wagon. If you're not actually going
off-road or frequently towing heavy loads, you're better off with a station
wagon or a minivan; they're cheaper, safer, and roomier.
I highly recommend "High and Mighty" by Keith Bradsher for anyone interested
in the politics and safety questions associated with SUVs. It's a real
eye-opener. Reviews at http://www.bhny.com/pow/POW007.html
Jan
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Tine Andersen
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> Tine Andersen wrote:
> > Puleeeze help this iggerant Dane: What is a SUV?
>
> "Sport Utility Vehicle"
>
> Like the Volvo XC90
>
> http://www.xc90.ca/en/home/index.html
>
> --
Tine
Tine Andersen
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> "Tine Andersen" <tine.nospa...@post3.nospam.tele.dk> wrote in
message
> | Puleeeze help this iggerant Dane: What is a SUV?
>
> It's a passenger vehicle built on a truck chassis. Basically, this gives
> the vehicle a higher ground clearance and more towing capability. It also
> gives it a higher rate of occupant and other-car-occupant deaths in
crashes,
> a propensity to tip over at ordinary highway speeds, gas mileage of
between
> 10-20 MPG (where ordinary passenger cars average 20-35 MPG and even
minivans
> can get 15-25 MPG), and a whole host of political and social baggage.
> Unfortunately, it doesn't have much extra room inside for said baggage --
> usually comparable to a station wagon. If you're not actually going
> off-road or frequently towing heavy loads, you're better off with a
station
> wagon or a minivan; they're cheaper, safer, and roomier.
>
> I highly recommend "High and Mighty" by Keith Bradsher for anyone
interested
> in the politics and safety questions associated with SUVs. It's a real
> eye-opener. Reviews at http://www.bhny.com/pow/POW007.html
>
Tine
zeldabee
Of course, my point was that these people are about as non-crunchy as you
can get, except when it comes to baby and toddler care. I think they'd tend
to be more into discipline than most people practicing AP, but I'm always
surprised to see the number of people using slings and nursing long-term.
The home-birth thing seems to be somewhat controversial in that community,
but a lot of people do it.
HollyLewis
>transition back to being 'Mommy'. But I'm starting to feel a little tired
>of it, so we may wean this summer.
I know what you mean! I liked it, but I also wished I had more flexibility as
far as going shopping after work or something and letting DH take care of DS.
I experimented with "don't offer, don't refuse" for *only* the after-work
nursing when DS was about 15 months, and although he seemed fine and didn't ask
to nurse, an hour later (just when *I* was trying to eat my dinner) he'd be
incredibly cranky and I'd wind up nursing him at the dinner table. So I went
back to nursing as soon as I got home...for about 3 months or so. Then I tried
again, and at that point it was fine.
Anyway, you may be able to cut out that one session that's bugging you and keep
the bedtime and morning ones that aren't.
Holly
Mom to Camden, 2 yrs.
Cheryl
>I don't really know anyone who switched to formula at ~6 months. The formula
>users I know IRL all quit breastfeeding or had to supplement earlier, due to
>newborn problems that they couldn't (or chose not to invest the necessary time
>and effort to) overcome.
I know a couple. One SIL went to formula feeding at about 5 months
because she didn't want to pump at work and once she found that her
son liked having a bottle I think she heaved a silent sigh of relief
that she didn't have to breastfeed anymore. The irony is that she
wanted my brother to share the feeding more and he's just not that
kind of person so it really backfired on her, not only was she
having to still feed her son but she was having to wash bottles and
prepare formula too. Another friend nursed her first baby for a few
months, about 3 or 4 if I remember correctly, and then weaned him
because it just wasn't working out (which I think means that she
wanted to put him in part time daycare and didn't want to pump while
he was there). She ended up unexpectedly pregnant soon after and
her second son was breastfed for longer because it was so easy
compared to bottle feeding but she still weaned him at about 6 or 7
months because she was told by a health professional that if you
aren't doing all feeds at the breast then you may as well do all by
bottle because it confuses the child less.
The one I understand the least is the one who breastfed her first
son to about 12 months before weaning, then formula fed her second
son because it was "too hard" at 3 days old.
--
Cheryl
DS#1 (Mar 99), DS#2 (Oct 00)
DD born 30 Jul 02
Cheryl
<tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
>Hi,
>After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
>formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
>you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
>I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
>average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
>Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
I am in Australia and I nursed #1 until about 15 months (22 weeks
pregnant with #2) and #2 was nursed until about 17 months (18 weeks
pregnant with #3). #3 is likely to self wean but I have no clue on
when that will be since she's more interested in nursing than the
boys were at the same age. Most of the people I know in person that
breastfed their children past 6 months weaned at around 12-ish
months in order to conceive #2, but then I know a lot more people
who either didn't breastfeed past 6 weeks because it was "too hard"
or didn't breastfeed past 6 months because "it wasn't convenient".
Tracy Hubbard
"Wendy" <roughl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:44:33 -0400, "Tracy Hubbard"
> <tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
>
> >'cause you can't get up with a catheter
> >in
>
> you can get up with a catheter in! Some people even go home and lead
> normal lives with a catheter in!
>
I'm glad you corrected me, Wendy. I was only going by what both myself, and
the Mom in question, were told at the time by the nursing staff.
Circe
> X-No-Archive: yes> news:00dua.8860$hd6.4597@fed1read05...
>> What does it all mean? I have *no* idea. But it's my life and I like
>> it.
>>
> lol.
>
LOL! Done.
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What does it all mean? I have *no* idea. But it's my life and I like it.
Elana
HollyLewis
>> pretty strongly in the AP camp when it comes to my parenting style. I've
>> been either pregnant, breastfeeding, or both for the past 6.5 years and
>> tandemmed my oldest two. Pretty crunchy, right? Yet I also work full-time
>> (though I am now working mainly at home, which is awesome), don't home
>> school (don't want to), didn't home birth (though I would have liked to),
>> don't family bed (though we have been known to "musical bed" <g>), and
>drive
>> a minivan (but do drive the less gas-hoggy Nissan sedan when I need to
>> commute alone).
Well *we* are certainly alike enough. I've only the one child and we do often
cosleep (as much out of laziness as because of philosophy though), but I'm also
a working, minivan-driving, atheist, liberal AP mom. :-)
>> What does it all mean? I have *no* idea. But it's my life and I like it.
<g>
Holly
Leslie
>You could always relocate to Front Royal, VA. There's a large community of
>Catholics there who home school, home birth, BF, use slings, etc., *and*
>drive SUVs.
>
Front Royal. It's a frequent pit stop for us on our treks between Knoxville
and Baltimore.
Leslie
Leslie
Me too--but I do occasionally shop at the health food store.
Leslie
Leslie
>Well, it always sort of amuses me that we seem to envision long-term
>breastfeeders as being alike in other respects. I haven't found that to be
>the case at all. It takes all kinds <g>!
But what I'm saying is that where I am, most long-term breastfeeders ARE alike,
what we on this ng tend to call "crunchy."
>What does it all mean? I have *no* idea. But it's my life and I like it.
I like my life as well, just wish there were more like-minded folks around to
share it with!
Leslie
Emily
[...]
> he was there). She ended up unexpectedly pregnant soon after and
> her second son was breastfed for longer because it was so easy
> compared to bottle feeding but she still weaned him at about 6 or 7
> months because she was told by a health professional that if you
> aren't doing all feeds at the breast then you may as well do all by
> bottle because it confuses the child less.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all week. And if you're
not going to play outside every day, you shouldn't do it ever,
because it confuses the child less. And if you're not going
to read to child your child every hour, you shouldn't do it
ever, because it confuses the child less...
Facetiously,
Emily
mom to Toby 1yo
Lara
> "kristi" <EJPW...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
>
> > what pump are you using?
> A Medela single manual/elctric combo.
I'm confused as to what you mean by this. The Medela piston manual, I
assume (erk, painful and time consuming), and which electric?
> I've tried a Gerber single and a double by the First Years.
Both have absolutely appalling reputations, I'm not surprised you didn't
get anywhere.
If your need for pumping is ongoing, consider buying a Pump In Style or
Purely Yours, or renting a hospital-grade double electric. If it is
short-term, consider a rental hospital-grade pump such as the Lactina,
Classic or Symphony. If you absolutely cannot afford any of these (and
yet, formula is expensive!) consider the Avent Isis.
Lara
H Schinske
>
>[...]
>
>> he was there). She ended up unexpectedly pregnant soon after and
>> her second son was breastfed for longer because it was so easy
>> compared to bottle feeding but she still weaned him at about 6 or 7
>> months because she was told by a health professional that if you
>> aren't doing all feeds at the breast then you may as well do all by
>> bottle because it confuses the child less.
There might be some tiny kernel of truth in that if you were talking about a
small baby. But a 6 or 7 month old baby is usually getting solids, for pete's
sake! So why is breast suddenly "too confusing"? I don't see why it would be
any more confusing than breast plus solids plus water in a cup, which is what
my kids got (if not quite at that age, then by a month or two later).
--Helen
Cheryl
I completely agree. You shouldn't feed your child from a spoon and
offer finger food, etc. There's so many things wrong with that
statement I could never actually believe that she thought this
health care professional was for real.
A&G&K
> Hi,
> After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
> formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
> you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
> I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
> average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
> Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
>
> Have a great day,
> Tracy
>
> When the most important things in our life happen we quite often do
> not know, at the moment, what is going on.
> - C. S. Lewis
Well not that long so far (almost 9 months) but I plan on bf my DD until she
is ready to stop.
Cheers
Amanda
Tracy Hubbard
"Lara" <{lara}@waawa.cx> wrote in message
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> Tracy Hubbard <tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
>
> > A Medela single manual/elctric combo.
>
> I'm confused as to what you mean by this. The Medela piston manual, I
> assume (erk, painful and time consuming), and which electric?
As I am having only one child a PIS is out of the question! I have an apt
with the L.C. tomorrow - we'll she what she can loan me (she has already
said she has a couple) :)
Lara
> "Lara" <{lara}@waawa.cx> wrote:
> > Tracy Hubbard <tr...@kingston.net> wrote:
> >
> > > A Medela single manual/elctric combo.
> >
> > I'm confused as to what you mean by this. The Medela piston manual, I
> > assume (erk, painful and time consuming), and which electric?
> It's made by Meddle. It's the piston manual and it can also be plugged in!
Sorry, still confused. Do you have a Lactina? The blue electric pump
which the piston manual slots into? Or have you only used the piston
manual pump, as far as Medela products are concerned?
If you've only tried the Medela manual, and two hopeless electric pumps,
don't think about giving up on pumping yet! You've not scratched the
surface - I don't know anyone on pumpmoms who has successfully pumped
for any length of time with any of the pumps you have mentioned.
> As I am having only one child a PIS is out of the question!
Mine cost me $450 Australian; I believe they're even cheaper in the USA.
As formula would cost about $20/week, plus the doctor's bills and
pharmacy items more likely with a formula fed baby - I get my money back
in well under six months, plus a healthier baby.
A new Ameda Purely Yours is even cheaper (and just as good, by most
accounts), and can be safely bought on ebay, so long as you buy your own
new Hygienikit. (Of course, you already have Medela pumpp parts, so you
might choose to stick with that company).
>I have an apt
> with the L.C. tomorrow - we'll she what she can loan me (she has already
> said she has a couple) :)
Great.
Lara
EPing for Luke, six months and twenty-eight days
kristi
> "kristi" <EJPW...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
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> > "Tracy Hubbard" <tr...@kingston.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > I guess I'm not sure why you are pumping--
>
> only to try and stimulate supply. I don't go back to work until October.
>
> I'll try the Fenugreek as I really don't like Oatmeal!!! Thanks for the
> hints and wish us luck!
I didn't either (though I did start eating it and once I started using
old fashioned rolled oats I am much happier with it) but you don't
have to eat it as cereal. It can be oatmeal cookies, granola, oat
flour (which makes tender and yummy pancakes) cheerios, etc.
I do second the comments that if you are just pumping to boost supply,
try nursing instead. Your baby is much better at getting milk and
stimulating production than even the best pump.
If you want to continue pumping when you return to work, do think
about getting a better pump. The Medela PIS is a good one.
Good luck to you.
Kristi
Melissa
> >I don't really know anyone who switched to formula at ~6 months. The
formula
> >users I know IRL all quit breastfeeding or had to supplement earlier, due
to
> >newborn problems that they couldn't (or chose not to invest the necessary
time
> >and effort to) overcome.
A woman I know switched at about six months, as did most of the women she
knew. Her reason was that her DD wasn't a good eater (still isn't...needs to
have complete silence and no distractions while she takes her bottle) and
the woman "wanted her body back". Unfortunately, although she has her body
back, she still hasn't been able to lose those last ten pounds (on someone
5' tall that's a lot of weight) and is now trying to get pg again. Most of
her friends also weaned at about six months because they were tired of
pumping and felt that the benefit of breastmilk was nearly done. What I
found saddest about the situation is that one of the women is an OB/GYN so
the other women felt that if a doctor was doing it, it surely was fine. Very
sad to make these types of decisions based on faulty information. (Not that
there's anything wrong with weaning at six months, but it should be done,
like most things, with complete knowledge.)
--
Melissa (in Los Angeles)
Mum to Elizabeth 4/13/03
Mary Gordon
nursing doesn't get breastmilk during the day, so I wasn't worried
about keeping some huge amount in the fridge or freezer for him. Baby
is the only one that gets expressed or pumped milk during the day
(which I was collecting in the morning when I had the most and during
the day at work).
A lot of older nurslings are pretty happy with comfort sucking (i.e.
they like to nurse, but breastmilk is a fairly minor part of their
diet, so a limited supply isn't a big deal for them). I found I had to
make some "rules" to protect my supply for the baby - i.e. baby always
went first, toddler went second and usually got the more empty side. A
big toddler can be extremely efficient at completely and rapidly
cleaning out just about every drop, leaving nothing for baby, whose
needs must take priority because they are dependent on the breast.
It is really great for your supply though! Little ones are always much
better stimulators for production than a pump.
Mary G.
Emily
The only kernel of truth that I see is that you don't want to
introduce bottles to early, for fear of risking nipple confusion.
That could lead to a situation in which you have to stop the bottles
to reestablish the bf relationship properly. The situation implied
in the OP was one in which the baby took both happily - so I don't
see why switching to bottles only could reasonably be said to
be less confusing in any sensible way...
Turid Mevold
| After reading some of the responses to my question about switching to
| formula, I have realized many of you are nursing older children. Where are
| you living and how old are your children that are still nursing?
| I'm in Kingston, Ontario and from what information I can gather, the
| average age women stop nursing here is 6 months.
| Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
My oldest was breastfed for 34 months, and my second for 15 months.
No. 3 is 8 months, and I hope she won't wean herself for a couple of
years yet.
I live in Oslo, Norway. 40 percent of all babies here are still
breastfed at 12 months.
--
Turid Mevold / newsm...@broadpark.no
Lydia (07/21/98), Leander (01/23/01) & Hedvig (09/11/02)
My babies: www.roffe.com/leanderbilder/ and www.roffe.com/lydiabilder/
Irene
he still nurses 5-10 times a day. I have to admit, I never dreamed
I'd be still nursing this frequently at this age, but that's what ds
wants! My original goal was 1 year, and play it by ear..
I am starting to get pressured to wean, but we'll see. The biggest
factor is that we're probably going to start TTC #2 this summer, and
if we are successful, I may need to pare down a bit to save my
nipples!
I'm not sure exactly how popular extended bf is around here. I'm in
the far northern suburbs of Chicago, which incidentally, is not far
from the birthplace of La Leche League. Most of the women I know
start bf'ing, but I'm not sure for how long. I did see a toddler bf
at a indoor playground at a mall nearby recently, though - I was so
thrilled! I see a lot of NIP, but mostly 6 months and under babies.
More bottles than NIP, however.
Welcome to the group!
Irene
Mom to Thomas 7/01
Anne Eilertsen
GMT :
>I live in Oslo, Norway. 40 percent of all babies here are still
>breastfed at 12 months.
And 80% of Norwegian babies are breastfed at 6 months. 70% are
exclusively breastfed at 3 months and 44% at 4 months. (I just found
some relatively new Norwegian statistics at
http://www.sef.no/index.db2?id=11002352 (only in Norwegian).)
I am in Oslo too, btw. Hi Turid. :-)
mvh,
--
Anne Eilertsen
http://anne.nvg.org
Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.
Anonymommmy
and planning to keep going until she wants to stop. (Before I found
this ng I thought we'd have to stop before the next pregnancy.) Most
mothers I have met with babies around DD's age seem to have started
weaning to formula at 6 months.
Anonymommmy
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Tine Andersen
"Anne Eilertsen" <an...@nvg.ntnu.no> skrev i en meddelelse
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I'm in Denmark and I'm jealous. I'm not sure we have as good percentages.
Tine