How could Biden be this stupid?

[uncle_vito]

He surrendered in Afghanistan. All Afghani US supporters will be executed.

https://www.axios.com/scoop-biden-braces-for-brutal-loss-7012efe9-c4cd-48df-8c2b-7484e2f17231.html

[Scream]

On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 2:37:07 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:
> He surrendered in Afghanistan. All Afghani US supporters will be executed.
>
> https://www.axios.com/scoop-biden-braces-for-brutal-loss-7012efe9-c4cd-48df-8c2b-7484e2f17231.html

War is coming with Iran soon, that's why the rush is out !
US troops in Afghanistan would be at risk from attacks.

[uncle_vito]

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:39:25 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:
> On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 2:37:07 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

> > He surrendered in Afghanistan. All Afghani US supporters will be executed.
> >
> > https://www.axios.com/scoop-biden-braces-for-brutal-loss-7012efe9-c4cd-48df-8c2b-7484e2f17231.html

> What do you want to to do invite them all to move to the USA and let there tribal nature infect the USA. Sometimes you just have to give up on a impossible situation. Thank TRUMP~! His administration started the retreat... It was costing US to much and Trump started the retreat during his administration.


My issue is not with leaving. It is with how it was done. Biden totally botched it. You must have time to evacuate diplomats, Americans and sympathetic Afghans. What we have instead, is a free for all.

[Alan Bowler]

On 2021-08-14 5:37 p.m., uncle_vito wrote:
> He surrendered in Afghanistan.
> All Afghani US supporters will be executed.

Trump during the campaign promised to pull out of
Afghanistan BEFORE now. So according to the Republicans
what Biden did wrong was waiting until now.

[uncle_vito]

Huh?? No. Trump would have done the withdrawl without all this bloodshed. Did you see Afghans crawling over airplanes. Did you see them drop off of flying planes. That is on Biden's watch, not Trumps. Trump was smart to wait.

[Scream]

What's Biden has to do with it, that a thousand scarry Afghan attacked the transporter plane?
Any one climbing on a jet plane while taking off must be crazy!
They deserved it!

[DirtBag]

On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 2:37:07 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

> He surrendered in Afghanistan. All Afghani US supporters will be executed.
>
> https://www.axios.com/scoop-biden-braces-for-brutal-loss-7012efe9-c4cd-48df-8c2b-7484e2f17231.html

You think TRUMP would have done better? How?

[uncle_vito]

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:27:15 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

> Yes. STUPID has consequences. I don't like watching people die stupidly. But it happens every day.


Pretty sick with families lifting their children over walls to get them to safety. These families may never see their children again. The Trump admin had some pretty smart cabinet members. Biden admin not so much. Harris is a real zero. If Harris every became president, the Senate would go to the Republicans because as President, she cannot vote.

[Scream]

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 3:17:14 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:27:15 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 12:02:36 AM UTC-7, Scream wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:19:21 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:00:10 PM UTC-7, Alan Bowler wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-08-14 5:37 p.m., uncle_vito wrote:
> > > > > > He surrendered in Afghanistan.
> > > > > > All Afghani US supporters will be executed.
> > > > > Trump during the campaign promised to pull out of
> > > > > Afghanistan BEFORE now. So according to the Republicans
> > > > > what Biden did wrong was waiting until now.
> > > > Huh?? No. Trump would have done the withdrawl without all this bloodshed. Did you see Afghans crawling over airplanes. Did you see them drop off of flying planes. That is on Biden's watch, not Trumps. Trump was smart to wait.
> > > What's Biden has to do with it, that a thousand scarry Afghan attacked the transporter plane?
> > > Any one climbing on a jet plane while taking off must be crazy!
> > > They deserved it!
> > Yes. STUPID has consequences. I don't like watching people die stupidly. But it happens every day.

> Pretty sick with families lifting their children over walls to get them to safety.

What do you suggest to do, when the Afghan puppet president ran away and it's military just gave up?
When the Russians took over Afghanistan, arrested the president, because he wasn't tough enough with the Taliban.
President was turned over to an opposition group , who killed him and dragged his body behind a car on the streets of Kabul all day for everyone to see.

[Alan Bowler]

On 2021-08-24 6:50 p.m., Scream wrote:
> When the Russians took over Afghanistan, arrested the president,
> because he wasn't tough enough with the Taliban.

The Russians left in 1992. The Taliban were not formed
until two years later.

[Scream]

What ever extremists group were there back than!

[Winston]

On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 2:37:07 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:
>> He surrendered in Afghanistan. All Afghani US supporters will be executed.

to which DirtBag <ramp...@gmail.com> asked:

> You think TRUMP would have done better? How?

Yes.

1) Don't wait until the last minute to start evactuating;

2) Evacuate the civilians we wanted out BEFORE evacuating the troops
protecting them;

3) Evacuate the valuable military equipment rather than leaving it
sitting there to be taken by the Taliban;

4) Don't walk away from the more secure Baghram AFB (thank Biden's guy
Milley(sp?) for the decision to just abandon it and the equipment
there);

5) Precisely because Trump could be a scary guy, the Taliban leaders
knew Trump could and would hold them personally responsible if they
didn't live up to their end of any agreement; I don't think they're
as worried about Biden doing that.

6) By extending the leave date from May to August, Biden broke the
agreement Trump had made which gave the Taliban an excuse to be
less committed to their side of the agreement.

I've heard some claim that extending the deadline gave the Taliban more
time to plan their takeover, but I'm not convinced yet that that was a
significant factor.

So, yes, I think Trump would have done better. Afghanistan probably
still would have fallen rapidly, but we would have had a clean exit.
-WBE

[Winston]

I previously posted, in part:

>> 2) Evacuate the civilians we wanted out BEFORE evacuating the troops
>> protecting them;

...

>> 4) Don't walk away from the more secure Baghram AFB (thank Biden's guy
>> Milley(sp?) for the decision to just abandon it and the equipment
>> there);

DirtBag <ramp...@gmail.com> replied:
> Well we will never know.. I agree that abandoning the AFB was lame.
> But I am not sure who made that call ...and why?

Milley(sp?) was instructed by the administration to protect the embassy.
He said they don't have enough spare troops to do what he was being
ordered to do. [My impression (possibly wrong) is that that situation
was caused at least in part by the troop withdrawals already under way,
which, as I commented in (2), maybe should have been done last.]

According to the news I've seen, it was Milley, in the absence of enough
troops, who directed that Baghram be abandoned in order to get the
troops required to guard the embassy. AFAIK (and I could be wrong),
they simply abandoned the AFB and all the equipment there, even though
Baghram was much more secure, especially for Americans, than Karzai
International airport which they're using for evacuations now.

To your original question: I think Trump's military guys would have done
better.
-WBE

[uncle_vito]

great thinking