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-DirtBag
May 22, 2012, 2:18:39 PM5/22/12
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So a what price WOULD Facebook (FB) be a 'great' buy? With all the
shares coming to market I think things need to shake out before we can
see some trade-able numbers and expected growth numbers. I am staying
away for now. How they monetize this and how intrusive it becomes to
users will all be worth watching..
I am thinking $26-28 range?
shares coming to market I think things need to shake out before we can
see some trade-able numbers and expected growth numbers. I am staying
away for now. How they monetize this and how intrusive it becomes to
users will all be worth watching..
I am thinking $26-28 range?
d.
May 22, 2012, 3:28:02 PM5/22/12
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In the worst case I guess users could flee as fast as they did MySpace
as soon as a new and better gathering spot pops up.
-DirtBag
May 22, 2012, 2:35:47 PM5/22/12
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reporting looks like. I would speculate some on FB and still may once
the IPO dust settles.
VOTE Arnold Glickman President of OCD Party
May 22, 2012, 4:06:02 PM5/22/12
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On stocks like FB you need to rely on long range charting.
-DirtBag
May 22, 2012, 4:18:15 PM5/22/12
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On 5/22/12 1:06 PM, VOTE Arnold Glickman President of OCD Party wrote:
> On stocks like FB you need to rely on long range charting.
Facebook looks very weak.. I can see it dropping to low-mid twenties
> On stocks like FB you need to rely on long range charting.
before it starts climbing back to $38. But it will be huge in time I
think. I would buy 100-500 shares if I knew it was the lowest price of
the the next 30 days.
horme...@gmail.com
May 22, 2012, 6:59:06 PM5/22/12
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On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:28:02 PM UTC-7, d. wrote:
> -DirtBag <Di...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >So a what price WOULD Facebook (FB) be a 'great' buy? With all the
> >shares coming to market I think things need to shake out before we can
> >see some trade-able numbers and expected growth numbers. I am staying
> >away for now. How they monetize this and how intrusive it becomes to
> >users will all be worth watching..
> >
> >I am thinking $26-28 range?
>
> How can you do anything but guess when they aren't making any money?
I thought they made $255million in the latest quarter, on like
> -DirtBag <Di...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >So a what price WOULD Facebook (FB) be a 'great' buy? With all the
> >shares coming to market I think things need to shake out before we can
> >see some trade-able numbers and expected growth numbers. I am staying
> >away for now. How they monetize this and how intrusive it becomes to
> >users will all be worth watching..
> >
> >I am thinking $26-28 range?
>
> How can you do anything but guess when they aren't making any money?
a $billion in revenue...even on a PEG basis, the $38/sh valuation
of $100billion+ is WAYYYY overvalued...
> In the worst case I guess users could flee as fast as they did MySpace
> as soon as a new and better gathering spot pops up.
And today, it was revealed that the underwriters deliberately hid
their opinion that Facebook growth would slow dramatically from here
on out, meaning that on a PEG basis, they are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overvalued...but no
matter, this is retard stock, just like the website is a retard
website, and you can't expect a retard to correctly value a company,
let alone not give away their identity on the public Internet...
---
William Ernest Reid (I also have to wonder how they're going
to "monetize" "Dumb Mikey Lubow" Tenenbaum's Facebook page, maybe
ads for toy planes he can fly around and make plane noises?)
bob wald
May 22, 2012, 8:10:35 PM5/22/12
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i think at around $25 or market cap $70bil thats fair.
Robert Cohen
May 22, 2012, 9:44:40 PM5/22/12
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On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:10:35 PM UTC-4, bob wald wrote:
> i think at around $25 or market cap $70bil thats fair.
The FB ipo phenomena reflects/agitates mucho public anger, cynicism and distrust.
> i think at around $25 or market cap $70bil thats fair.
Ther'll be lawsuits by attorneys/clients whom do not
agree to the apparently usual customary compulsive arbitration, which is seemingly
why perhaps banker-brokers do not get civil-suited. Wall Street is good ole
boyism, while they handle multi trillions of business and also participate as key govt officials of Republican and Democrat administrations.
I am certainly not saying there is no competition amongst 'em, though imho there is an "anti-trust" aspect seemingly the very essence of "cooperative/
crony capitalism" in underwriting IPOs
Read recent ROLLING STONE articles by matt Tiabbi and others for elucidation of the points I am trying to understand
Because obviously journalist tiabbi has some excellent sources whom clue him into what is really happening
what will happen from this scandal ?
perhaps because so many people are angry, there can now be some sticking actual needed reform along with the usual window dressing
Because if the Lehman bankruptcy fallout didn't really essentially change things, i should be skeptical of there ever being substantive reform
in any case:
'you can't take politics out of politics, and take the informal financial manipulations processes out of an ambiguous, complex and seemingly ultimately personal relationship old boy business'
That's not exactly what RS says, while my cynical B.S. is my pessimistic yet realistic b.s.
ausound
May 22, 2012, 11:06:45 PM5/22/12
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d...@noospam.com (d.) wrote in news:4fbbe802....@216.168.3.70:
they make money
Revenue
$3.71B
Net Income
$1.00B
P/E Current
72.76
Revenue
$3.71B
Net Income
$1.00B
P/E Current
72.76
bob wald
May 23, 2012, 12:55:26 AM5/23/12
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im addicted to fb message board at yahoo.
-DirtBag
May 23, 2012, 1:24:58 AM5/23/12
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VegasNightOwl
May 23, 2012, 3:27:46 AM5/23/12
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This IPO was waaaaaay overpriced and hyped to the hilt. I could tell by the
hype that it wasn't sustainable. It should've been priced between $15 to
$20 giving it the upside potential and demand. From my gut feeling, I
wouldn't go near this stock at any price. If anything, get some put options
and at least make some money from this.
The new term from those who have lost money in facebook is "I've been
Zucked!"
VegasNightOwl
"-DirtBag" <Di...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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hype that it wasn't sustainable. It should've been priced between $15 to
$20 giving it the upside potential and demand. From my gut feeling, I
wouldn't go near this stock at any price. If anything, get some put options
and at least make some money from this.
The new term from those who have lost money in facebook is "I've been
Zucked!"
VegasNightOwl
"-DirtBag" <Di...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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jimmy
May 23, 2012, 8:04:50 AM5/23/12
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point do users, admins and/or apps begin to clean up profiles thereby
reducing targets?
Frank Kafka
May 23, 2012, 8:16:40 AM5/23/12
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>Their potential for target marketing is over the top great.
Exactly!
Their potential for social/political targeting is dangerous.
Mark Mathu
May 23, 2012, 8:53:48 AM5/23/12
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> I would buy 100-500 shares if I knew it was the lowest price of
> the the next 30 days.
Well... who WOULDN'T if they had that sort of crystal ball
> the the next 30 days.
information?
-DirtBag
May 23, 2012, 5:06:52 PM5/23/12
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I read that they got GREEDY. Underwriters and early investors
apparently didn't want to leave any scraps on the table for the buyers..
I hope the NEXT IPO underwriter to go public is paying attention.
Greed is killing us.
apparently didn't want to leave any scraps on the table for the buyers..
I hope the NEXT IPO underwriter to go public is paying attention.
Greed is killing us.
Lubow
May 23, 2012, 6:06:51 PM5/23/12
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but the dummies did buy into a viable, money making business and that's the
difference.
Real greed is Victor Posner type greed. What Posner did was take over a
viable steel company then he began to salary himself and his sons millions
in the days when CEOs were content earning the same salary as the POTUS
($100K a the time). It did not take long for the steel company to go
bankrupt.
If you were following Gingrich's aborted presidential campaign, he brought
up a similar situation with a steel company but in that case, the state of
Indiana and the local county paid the takeover guys (guess which takeover
guys) to manage the steel mill. They took the government money, salaried
themselves tons of dough for a company that was teetering and when their
obligation to government was met, they put the company out of business.
>I read that they got GREEDY. Underwriters and early investors apparently
>didn't want to leave any scraps on the table for the buyers.. I hope the
>NEXT IPO underwriter to go public is paying attention. Greed is killing us.
There's greed and then there's greed. Here they just conned some dummies
>didn't want to leave any scraps on the table for the buyers.. I hope the
>NEXT IPO underwriter to go public is paying attention. Greed is killing us.
but the dummies did buy into a viable, money making business and that's the
difference.
Real greed is Victor Posner type greed. What Posner did was take over a
viable steel company then he began to salary himself and his sons millions
in the days when CEOs were content earning the same salary as the POTUS
($100K a the time). It did not take long for the steel company to go
bankrupt.
If you were following Gingrich's aborted presidential campaign, he brought
up a similar situation with a steel company but in that case, the state of
Indiana and the local county paid the takeover guys (guess which takeover
guys) to manage the steel mill. They took the government money, salaried
themselves tons of dough for a company that was teetering and when their
obligation to government was met, they put the company out of business.
VegasNightOwl
May 23, 2012, 6:18:13 PM5/23/12
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It's reached a point where even Gordon Gecko would be embarrassed. Another
thing that has made me think is maybe this was setup like this knowing full
well this could collapse and make things even worse for the banking and
investment industries. There are a number of people out there who would
love to see a collapse of the economic engine in this country and I would
suspect quite a few of them are employed on Wall Street.
news:4fbd516c$0$87600$742e...@news.sonic.net...
thing that has made me think is maybe this was setup like this knowing full
well this could collapse and make things even worse for the banking and
investment industries. There are a number of people out there who would
love to see a collapse of the economic engine in this country and I would
suspect quite a few of them are employed on Wall Street.
news:4fbd516c$0$87600$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Lubow
May 23, 2012, 6:47:41 PM5/23/12
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"VegasNightOwl" <joshuatre...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> It's reached a point where even Gordon Gecko would be embarrassed.
> Another thing that has made me think is maybe this was setup like this
> knowing full well this could collapse and make things even worse for the
> banking and investment industries. There are a number of people out there
> who would love to see a collapse of the economic engine in this country
> and I would suspect quite a few of them are employed on Wall Street.
>
>
> VegasNightOwl
I'm waiting for DF to come out and say it was a conspiracy orchestrated by
> Another thing that has made me think is maybe this was setup like this
> knowing full well this could collapse and make things even worse for the
> banking and investment industries. There are a number of people out there
> who would love to see a collapse of the economic engine in this country
> and I would suspect quite a few of them are employed on Wall Street.
>
>
> VegasNightOwl
Obama to make VC look bad.
bob wald
May 23, 2012, 6:56:52 PM5/23/12
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looks like the big banks are driving up the price again.....
bob wald
May 24, 2012, 8:47:30 AM5/24/12
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if i hear one more person on fb cry about losing $300 or less ill
scream......
scream......
Alan Bowler
May 24, 2012, 4:06:53 PM5/24/12
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On 5/22/2012 2:18 PM, -DirtBag wrote:
> So a what price WOULD Facebook (FB) be a 'great' buy?
>
> So a what price WOULD Facebook (FB) be a 'great' buy?
>
> I am thinking $26-28 range?
For "great buy", a P/E near 10 would give a price in the
$3.50->$4.00 range.
horme...@gmail.com
May 24, 2012, 7:32:20 PM5/24/12
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of 10 for Facebook might be a horrible time to buy, much
worse than buying at the IPO first trading day price...
---
William Ernest Reid (nobody ever said this trading stuff
was easy, except for "Dumb Mikey Lubow" Tenenbaum, oh, and
Carolyn Foley...oh wait, and "JBoatFake"...oh hell, just about
everybody in this group says making outsized profits is
literally child's play)
bob wald
May 25, 2012, 8:51:47 AM5/25/12
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is it true, fb has more customers than coca cola???????
d.
May 25, 2012, 11:27:00 AM5/25/12
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Customers? Coca-Cola has customers. Facebook has ???
Mostly users? Visitors? Gawkers?
Mostly users? Visitors? Gawkers?
Lubow
May 25, 2012, 11:57:57 AM5/25/12
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On May 22, 6:59 pm, hormelf...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> ---
> William Ernest Reid (I also have to wonder how they're going
> to "monetize" "Dumb Mikey Lubow" Tenenbaum's Facebook page, maybe
> ads for toy planes he can fly around and make plane noises?)
Bill, I knew there was a reason the persons named above live in nice
>
> ---
> William Ernest Reid (I also have to wonder how they're going
> to "monetize" "Dumb Mikey Lubow" Tenenbaum's Facebook page, maybe
> ads for toy planes he can fly around and make plane noises?)
homes with loving families while you live a in 270 sq ft cell close to
three run down bars, hated by your mom, all while collecting
government assistance, Thanks for the info Bill.
Have a great Memorial Day.
jimmy
May 25, 2012, 12:32:09 PM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 07:51:47 -0500, bob36...@webtv.net (bob wald)
wrote:
> is it true, fb has more customers than coca cola???????
Dunno but, coke isn't free. How about all those zuckers who bought a
week ago at $45? They now have to see an almost 50% increase to break
even. Is that even possible??
wrote:
> is it true, fb has more customers than coca cola???????
week ago at $45? They now have to see an almost 50% increase to break
even. Is that even possible??
Lubow
May 25, 2012, 12:50:31 PM5/25/12
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loving families while you inhabit in a 270 sq ft cell close to three
run down bars; need to collect government assistance and have a mom
who requires a court order to say she loves you (by your own
admission).
To put it another way, Bill, do you think there is a correlation
between your sister nearly getting kicked out of her home for
defaulting and her taking your financial "advice?"
bob wald
May 26, 2012, 7:54:20 AM5/26/12
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its like this, everyone thought they make easy money on fb on the
hype...but
i guess its back to finding companys that perform....lol
hype...but
i guess its back to finding companys that perform....lol
momarch
May 26, 2012, 7:14:22 PM5/26/12
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Interesting....that doesn't sound like something I would say...but it does sound like something you would say, sure you are not confused there?
bob wald
Jun 8, 2012, 8:45:28 AM6/8/12
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well im done buying soq now.....$50k in it enough for me.....
now to $4 n a fast double......$$$$$...hAHAha
now to $4 n a fast double......$$$$$...hAHAha
momarch
Jun 8, 2012, 10:33:42 AM6/8/12
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lets see how fast your fast is......
bob wald
Jun 8, 2012, 10:59:24 AM6/8/12
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well under 70 days ago i started buying soq at $4.
so i figure..100days or 140 on the outside....lol
so i figure..100days or 140 on the outside....lol
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