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dtppro

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Jul 7, 2002, 12:17:34 AM7/7/02
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I have a friend whose brother is a realtor. There is a store that
closed back in November that amongst other abandoned items is a green
Hamadastar 550 CDA (they said make an offer, and I'm thinking $200-300
for this 25? year old 10x15 press). I don't know the condition, but
presume it runs. One thing I know I'm going to buy is a 15" 50 sheet
Ideal Kutrimmer for $50.
A new tenant has leased the store and it must be cleared out in the
next week. If I don't buy it, it will go to the junk yard most likely.
What would you offer for the press if you were in my shoes? Nearly 20
years ago I ran a small green Hamada press for about a year, quite
possibly the same model. I remember them being simple to run, holding
up well, and producing acceptable (not excellent) work. Is there any
place in modern printing for this little old press? I'd use this press
for some moonlighting projects. Ultimately I'd like to have my own
shop and earn a living at it.
Thanks for the help.

P

joe

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Jul 7, 2002, 4:08:30 PM7/7/02
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in article d8d62124.02070...@posting.google.com, dtppro at
dtp...@hotmail.com wrote on 7/7/02 12:17 AM:

im personally not aware of what an hamada of that year would bring, but i
would ofer $50 dollars if it ran. i know of shops that are still running
presses like that. it seems you have an understanding of the kind of work it
produces (read: down & dirty). the way i have seen these presses to still be
productive is to get a computer to "paper" plate system. and since it seems
you know dtp you are already ahead of the game. that way you can do the
quick turn down and dirty stuff without film and negs. if you were to
eventually get into your own shop and got better presses this one could
possible be set up as an env only press. thats what we have done in our
shop. the smallest sheet feed is 22", so all the env get run on a multi
setup with a contiounous env feeder. it currently makes $55-65 on hour
running env above the cost of the env themselves.
hope this helps,
=)
joe


dtppro

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Jul 9, 2002, 6:47:01 PM7/9/02
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>
> im personally not aware of what an hamada of that year would bring, but i
> would ofer $50 dollars if it ran. i know of shops that are still running
> presses like that. it seems you have an understanding of the kind of work it
> produces (read: down & dirty). the way i have seen these presses to still be
> productive is to get a computer to "paper" plate system. and since it seems
> you know dtp you are already ahead of the game. that way you can do the
> quick turn down and dirty stuff without film and negs. if you were to
> eventually get into your own shop and got better presses this one could
> possible be set up as an env only press. thats what we have done in our
> shop. the smallest sheet feed is 22", so all the env get run on a multi
> setup with a contiounous env feeder. it currently makes $55-65 on hour
> running env above the cost of the env themselves.
> hope this helps,
> =)
> joe

Went to see the press. It's pretty grimy looking. Blanket looks like
crap. No plates around to see what it can do, but it does run in the
most elementary way. I'm a generous person, I offered $200. I took
home the little paper cutter for $50. He also had a manual hd saddle
stapler that he included in the deal with the cutter.
I was told they'd consider my $200 offer. They have a few days to
clear out, and I don't imagine people beating down the doors to get
this press. They said they were looking to get $500, which is a joke.
I think because the made me wait, my offer will drop to $100. I have
been involved in dtp since 1994. I actually do a lot of 1 color jobs
for clients. A good one is reminder cards for medical, auto service,
etc. The company that used to do my printing had a 1 color AB Dick 385
and a two color AB Dick 360. They went out of business a few weeks
ago. They sold their equipment to a nasty, over-priced, sloppy shop a
few miles away. I don't like them. I know the presses were old, but
well cared for. If I had the money, I would have partnered into that
shop to keep them running... They claimed they couldn't compete and
business was way down. They didn't have the money to modernize.

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