is there anybody who is not an IT worker!!
lynn
about how little it work there is available. Is there anyone else going
who has another trade/profession? My hubby is in the building trade and
people we know who have already gone to oz don't seem to have much
trouble finding work. Perhaps the gov should take IT people off the 'in
demand' list for a bit cos it seems the jobs are more in demand than the
peolpe working in it.
PS I have nothing against it people! it just seems that everyone making
comments is in that field.
Lynn
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jopaulss
in the future heading to perth !!!! We applied sept 2001 so have along
way to go . How about you ? Joanne
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yvsie
Only just sent off my skills assessment...hubby's next week (for extra 5
points blah!!) No doubt we'll all keep eachother going...we have a long
way to go...I know I may be fast tracked but I CANT go till next July
cos of my degree ans son's A levels
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Yvonne
Alan Collett
plumber38uk
Im not IT,also at the begining of my journey. Hoping to
mirgrate to Brisbane as a plumber/gas fitter. Think the only
way to find out about job prospects is to go visit,so off to
oz in oct for a month.
p.s your not alone good luck!
britbird
Not too many of us around Heading for Brisbane around Sept time - if we
get the flippin visas through!!! Britbird PS applied Dec 2000
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Kershaw4
visited to check out job situation in Brisbane, offers pouring in-maybe
social workers need to replace IT on list. Applied April 2000 waiting
for visas-hopefully not tool ong now and we'll be off around
November-like you have had to wait anyway for daughters to finish GCSE'S
and A levels. How does your son feel about going at this stage in his
life? Maybe we could offer support to each other through the process.
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les
going to north queensland
skipp
since May 2001.
All the best!
Si
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Ianha77
mechanical engineering tradesperson.. or so TRA tell me ! I have been
rooting around on the net trying to find lob opportunities for when we
finally get to Aus. We are going to Brisbane. Through an ageny i have
succesfully managed to land myself a job plus flights and accomadation
paid for when we arrive. I have found that they are desperate for people
in my trade. I am sure that this is the same for other skilled trades.
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dpr
physiotherapist (self); application took just over three months -
heading to Perth in July.
cheers
DPR
JAJ
their share of the Australian migrant program. Understandable, if you
think about it.
Jeremy
Dawn
I'm in the process of applying for residency as a skilled marketing
person. I'm actually already in Australia on a working holiday visa
and have been living in Melbourne since last August.
I have to say that the job market for marketing people in Melbourne
has been bad for the entire period I have been here and since
Christmas has been as flat as a pancake!
It's not good....
Ho-hum...
Dawn. :-)
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pott
destination - one day!
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BBQ & VB
heading downunder 2002
> There are many of us on this site who are not IT. I am a General
> mechanical engineering tradesperson.. or so TRA tell me ! I have been
> rooting around on the net trying to find lob opportunities for when we
> finally get to Aus. We are going to Brisbane. Through an ageny i have
> succesfully managed to land myself a job plus flights and accomadation
> paid for when we arrive. I have found that they are desperate for people
> in my trade. I am sure that this is the same for other skilled trades.
Hi Ian,
Could you tell us what is your profession. My husband got the same
assesment as you from TRA.
Would also be interested to hear details of the agency you contacted in
Brisbane. We are heading there in September.
Susan
Max
I'am an accountant, currently in Israel and just at the very beginning
of my journey Down Under. Next week - lodging my Assesment to CPAA,
hope that'll be settled so I'll at least have that application
lodged!! They say the accounting job market is all right given the
overall market situation but you never know, I reckon the ultimate way
to know is to try and see which is what we all hope will happen soon
:-)
Cheers
Max
micky
been accepted for Strathclyde Fire Brigade!!!!!!!!!!!! Applied October
2001 . Phoned DIMA and they said that they were fast-tracking nurses and
were up to July 2001. We're hoping to migrate to Perth by Jan 2003. Any
other nurses, building trades,etc.,please email us.
We live near Glasgow, have 4 kids (13, 11, 6 and 2) Michael was in
Perth, sussing things out las August. Have alot of info. Cheers,
Shona & Michael
Ianha77
I am a Toolmaker/CNC machinist. Contact Warwick Weeks at
warwic...@bdsglobal.com website www.bdsglobal.com
They are a large Recruitment agency based in Brisbane and i am sure they
they will be able to help you. Warwick is a good aussie guy who i met in
Birmingham last week. How far are you with your application?
Hope this helps..
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Yvonne
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rday
check out
http://britishexpats.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74713
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a very immature industry in the UK and all over the world.
What other proffession can people call themselves proffessionals without a
degree.
The industry is full of used car salesmen who jumped on the bandwagon during
the boom 2 years ago.
I currently find myself struggling for work and competing against 199 people
for every job.
I plan to emmigrate to Perth with my gf and her son in April 2003. I shall
look for IT work for 1 month, after which I will give IT up as a bad job and
hope that someone else will take a chance on me in another proffession - and
I dont care what that proffession is.
I keep racking my brains as what I could do over here before next April to
enhance my chances of a change of career in OZ. I was thinking of getting
some sport related quals, such as youth team football (soccer) coach etc
etc. I know that football(soccer) is no where near as popular over there,
but I reckon that there would be enough people to run some soccer schools.
Anyway sorry for my ranting!!
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not IT people either - husabnd is a printer and me just a housewife!!!!
Hope to go to SA i fwe ever get permission!!!!!!!!!!!
sharon
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dazzx6r
there, but from the looks of these threads, there are a good range of
other professions trying to get into Oz.... All the best to you all !!!
Regards Daz
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Dinesh
Dinesh
Wayne D Tyler
to keep an eye on newsgroups during workhours
Don't worry there are other watching in the background.
Wayne
"sharonfryer" <for...@britishexpats.com> wrote in message
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Neil
visa application in in February.
Can I ask the electricians, what are you doing about getting your
electrical licence? Are you just going to wait until you get out to
Oz or are you going to make arrangements before you arrive? I am
thinking of trying to get my hands on a copy of the australian wiring
regulations so I can study them before I arrive. Any advice/ideas
welcome.
Jez
assume makes and ass out of u and me.
I am in IT and I am not allowed to access the internet at all - yes that
means newsgroups. I do that in my own time at home.
I feel I ought to put a few things straight too. I have worked in quite a
few jobs in the past and I now work as a software developer for a largish
insurance company.
I get paid £25000 a year. Yes that is quite a bit - or is it? Work out how
many hours a week I work compared with, say, a mechanic. I work around 40
hours a week at work. Then when I get home I have to keep up to date through
reading / practising my skills. This takes up another ten hours a week or
so. Working this out I get £9.61 an hour. How does that compare to builders,
mechanics, printers, other craftspeople etc? In addition to this I had to
take four years off work without any pay to get a degree to enter the
profession. No craftspeople have to do that. Sure you do an apprenticeship
but is it as hard? Well I can speak from experience and I tell you it is
not, and you get paid for doing it.
Do I regret getting into IT? In some ways, yes, because I have to work a lot
harder and longer hours compared to when I was a mechanic. I also have to
put in more effort and money in my own time. There is more variety, but then
there is always the threat of getting the sack/being made redundant through
outdated skills hanging over your head. This happens more in IT than any
other job I have worked in because of the rapid rate of technological
change.
The grass may seem greener but very rarely is. The same applies to living in
UK versus living in Australia. Neither is greener than the other, the only
thing is that they are different.
Regards,
Jez.
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rday
http://www.tradeconnect.com.au/license.htm
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Sandra
had give up work for four years to get your degree - was that at
University? I understand that is expensive and all that, but do you know
about the apprentiships that 'trades people' go through? In print that
can be 4 years, 1 year college full time, 2 year part time with day
release and 1 year on the job, my husbands father had to sign his
indentures with a thumbprint, and that was only 22 years ago, my husband
is 38! His salary at the time was very very low as a trainee - I know my
comparisons are difficult but he earned 33 pounds a week as a
apprentice, for three years. His salary before leaving the UK four weeks
ago was about the same as yours currently, and he worked treble shift
over a three week cycle 5 days/nights a week, nights 10pm-6am, lates
2pm-10pm and earlies 6am-2 pm - great for family life? Please don't
dismiss trades people or try to compare when you do not have the full
facts. I am IT (60-70 hrs per week basic) now, because I was supported
over the last seven years by my husbands job. I do not know what level
of your mechanical trade you where previously in, but please do not put
any of us down - it is hard, we put the hours in (ex trade print
typesetter speaking personally - 37 pounds a week 14 years ago).
I have read many of your posts before and think you have had valid
points to make, but I did take expception to this one. We all work hard
and have a common goal - PR in Aus, please respect our current
professions and ability to work damm hard like you.
Cheers
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Jez
Interesting comments. In response to your questions I think you should read
Waynes comment previously which is what I was responding to. He was (in my
opinion) inferring that IT workers spend part of their working day browsing
newsgroups, or at least that is how I took the comment, whereas craftspeople
do not. It was not my intention to denigrate any craftspeople or anyone's
profession.
My apprenticeship as a mechanic lasted for four years. In that time I
started on £24 a week in 1979 at age 16, which rose to (if I remember
correctly) the heady weekly sum of £55 in 1982/3 at age 20/21. During this
time I went on day release to a tech. college.
Comparing this with University, that took four years full time.
With an apprenticeship you have a steady (albeit low) income whilst at Uni
you have no income whatsoever.
So to answer your question, yes I think I do know about the apprenticeships
that craftspeople go through in the motor trade and can compare the
experience with University from a qualified position as I have undertaken
both. Both are valid in their respective ways; an apprenticeship is geared
more towards training, whereas university is geared more towards education.
I stated that going through uni is harder than going through an
apprenticeship. I stand by my comment. It is intellectually more rigorous at
university and through the structure of funding less well paid than an
apprenticeship - unless you have rich parents of course.
You could expand this further and judge what the value of university
actually is compared with the pragmatic training you receive through an
apprenticeship given the rewards you potentially get after this education
and/or training. I suppose in the long term a university education does
raise the glass ceiling for you to a degree, but any more than an
apprenticeship? Probably.
From my experience working as a mechanic I worked far fewer hours than I do
in I.T. and dividing the relevant salaries to obtain an hourly rate I would
have got paid more as a mechanic now (£20000 P.A.) than I do as a software
developer (£25000).
Jez.
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Ianha77
like you do. I too have work 60-70 hrs per week when I would love to be
at home with my 8 week old daughter.
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Yvonne
ndaltonb
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Ianha77
the mo! I am a craftsman and i am working 60-70 hours per week. I am a
toolmaker and now programme cad/cam and also run the company computer
network. I have had no training in this whatsoever and have taught
myself through many mistakes. I would have loved to have changed my
dierection and trained more on the IT side but did not have the guts to
give up my job and go for it. I am now extremely computer literate but
have no qualifications to show for it. Good for you Jez that that you
had the balls to change dierection, you obviously weren't happy as a
mechanic. I am happy now because i think being a toolmaker, will give me
a much better chance of getting work in Aus. I have already had offers
of work. But, whatever proffession you are in, i look forward to meeting
as many of you out there as possible!! I think we all deserve it!
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JAJ
not :), the reality is that someone whose trade is in IT is *on
average* more likely to know about and use the Intenet in general, and
newsgroups in particular, than a person who is not in IT.
Which almost certainly means that IT people are over-represented here
compared to Australia's skilled migrants as a whole.
Jeremy