STRAUSS HEART DROPS UNCLOG ARTERIES, ELIMINATE ANGINA PAIN & BY-PASS SURGERIES!
Carson
I stumbled across Heart Drops a couple of months back and it literally saved
my life. I'm so excited that I'm sharing it with you today, I'm confident
that it will make a world of difference to you or a loved one. Give it a
try, it can and will save many lives. The following is a copy of the ad that
first attracted my attention to the Heart Drops. You owe it to yourself to
have a look at this, especially if you're as at your ropes end as I was.
SINCE 1980 STRAUSS HEART DROPS HAVE HELPED.
.prevent heart attacks, strokes, & aneurisms!
.eliminate angina pain within a few days!
.unclog plugged arteries!
.shrink swollen enlarged hearts!
WHAT IF.there was no more need for heart transplants, by-pass surgeries, or
angioplasty?
100% NATURAL! NO NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS!
GUARANTEED TO WORK OR YOUR MONEY BACK.
Tuned CGC
a problem, see a cardiologist who may prescribe .4 mg nitroglycerine for the
angina, and who will then do tests to see if a blockage exists. If such a
blockage exists, the cardiologist may then do either treat a blockage with
pills, or with a stent, or with minimally invasive "keyhole" bypass, or with a
normal bypass operation.
This miracle pill is guaranteed to work or you money back? That reminds me
of the parachute guarantee. If the parachute fails to open, just bring it back
for a cheerful refund.
signed, Earl, type 2, age 62, etc. etc. etc.
Wendy Hanawalt
Carson wrote:
Jeez, I feel an attack of The Teds coming on.
I mean, just how stupid do you have to be to believe something like this?
These drops have been around for twenty years? And this is the first we've
heard of it? Shrinks enlarged hearts, unclogs plugged arteries, eliminates
angina pain, and this is the first we've heard of it? I mean, if this actually
worked, don't you think that the entire world would be onto it by now?
Oh no, wait, I forgot: it's the military-industrial-drug cabal keeping this
important medical development a secret, so they can make money on their
surgeries and medicines.
But Jeez, wouldn't word get out anyway? I mean, GUARANTEED TO WORK OR YOUR
MONEY BACK, for cryin' out loud!
P.T. Barnum would have loved the internet, wouldn't he?
Wendy
Don
don
Tuned CGC wrote in message <20000221222903...@ng-ba1.aol.com>...
hemmi...@my-deja.com
never had a loved one go through by-pass
surgery. The doctors released my husband from
the hospital and told him he had unstable angina
and to go home, and in 6-8 weeks they would
shedule him for an angiogram.
We drove to Calgary the next day for this
angiogram, they would not let him off the table
as he only had 10% left in his arteries.
What they don't tell you, is that once you have a
by-pass, you will always be open to have another
one.
My husband took chelation, and now he is on the
heart drops. They have worked wonders for his
circulation, and now he is off all the his $300 a
month medication.
If you don't believe, wait till it happens to you.
I know myself and my husband believe.
Debbie
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Randy Sigman
Ted Rosenberg
million)
Make burial arrangements immediatly - you are killing your husband !!
Remember Tyrell Dueck !
Wendy H
> I guess it might be hard for someone who has never had a loved one go
> through by-pass
> surgery. The doctors released my husband from the hospital and told
> him he had unstable angina and to go home, and in 6-8 weeks they would
> shedule him for an angiogram.
>
Why, yes I have had loved ones go through bypass surgery, as a matter of
fact.
> We drove to Calgary the next day for this angiogram, they would not
> let him off the table
> as he only had 10% left in his arteries.
>
> What they don't tell you, is that once you have a by-pass, you will
> always be open to have another one.
Yes, and so what? What do you think was the likelihood he was going to
live more than a week or two with 10% of his arteries? I hope sincerely
that your husband lives long enough to have another bypass and if he
does, it's because he had the first one.
> My husband took chelation, and now he is on the heart drops. They
> have worked wonders for his circulation, and now he is off all the his
> $300 a month medication.
And it doesn't occur to you that perhaps the reason your husband is
healthier is because of the bypass surgery?
> If you don't believe, wait till it happens to you.
>
> I know myself and my husband believe.
Well, all I can say is that a lot of intelligent people believe a lot of
really stupid things, and you are apparently one of them. When you can
come here with scientific citations for these so-called drops of yours,
then we might listen. But what you've come with is a lot of
misunderstanding, miseducation, circular arguments, misplaced faith,
etc. etc. etc. I hope you and your husband don't put your faith too
devoutly in the hands of whatever crackpots are selling you this stuff.
Wendy
-- The essence of science is restraint. Humility in the face of
overwhelming complexity. A willingness to say "I don't yet know." --
Chet Raymo
Just Me
>I guess it might be hard for someone who has
>never had a loved one go through by-pass
>surgery. The doctors released my husband from
>the hospital and told him he had unstable angina
>and to go home, and in 6-8 weeks they would
>shedule him for an angiogram.
>
>We drove to Calgary the next day for this
>angiogram, they would not let him off the table
>as he only had 10% left in his arteries.
>
>What they don't tell you, is that once you have a
>by-pass, you will always be open to have another
>one.
>
>My husband took chelation, and now he is on the
>heart drops. They have worked wonders for his
>circulation, and now he is off all the his $300 a
>month medication.
>
>If you don't believe, wait till it happens to you.
>
>I know myself and my husband believe.
>
>Debbie
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
The whole line of idiocy with this thread is overwhelming. You and your idiot
friends should take your urban tales somewhere else, and let diabetics fend for
themselves, without your interference.
The millenium arrived a year early. . .
Charles Evans
glasses.
Really!
Ted Windsor <tg...@home.com> wrote in message
news:38D420DC...@home.com...
> My wife is using the Strauss Heart Drops and has already noticed a
> difference in her blood count, she has Diabetes.
> Ted
Ted Windsor
Ted Rosenberg
>
> <spam snipped>
More crap from Ted Windsor's Snake Oil Sales
hemmi...@my-deja.com
In article
<87A850D051B52DFC.3AA92A63...@lp.airnews.net>,
"Charles Evans" <cev...@pdq.net> wrote:
> And I suppose her ingrown toenails are now outgrown and she no longer
needs
> glasses.
> Really!
>
> Ted Windsor <tg...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:38D420DC...@home.com...
Randy Sigman
> My wife is using the Strauss Heart Drops and has already noticed a
> difference in her blood count, she has Diabetes.
> Ted
So you are saying that heart drops cause diabetes. Thanks for warning
us. Now even the 1% of idiots who might have fallen for the snake oil
will know better!
hemmi...@my-deja.com
Have you even seen or tried the Heart drops? Don't knock before you
try!! Keep an open mind.
At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought the world
was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
Which catagory do you fall into?
In article <kYcB4.2$5K2....@news.pcnet.com>,
hemmi...@my-deja.com
At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought that the
earth was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
Which one of these are you?
Wendy H
hemmi...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Have you tried the Heart Drops? Or anyone you know?
> At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought that the
> earth was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
This is a standard response from people who are trying to sell something
that is completely untested, unproven, and undoubtedly useless. Oh well,
Galileo was considered a fool in his time TOO.
Just because the world isn't flat, it doesn't MEAN that these drugs aren't
crap.
This particular product is upsetting, because either it is too small
amount of any of its ingredients to be in any way useful, or it can
actually be dangerous to people with heart conditions who are, for
instance, taking blood thinners -- and I would suspect that many, if not
most, people diagnosed with cardiovascular disease ARE on blood thinners.
Some of the herbs used in these drops (and the drops are really nothing
more than a collection of readily-available herbs) are known to thin
blood, extremely dangerous for someone who is already thinning their blood
medically, under a doctor's supervision. So the argument that these drops
are harmless is a lie.
There are some snake oil products touted around here that are undoubtedly
harmless -- you'll lose your money but little else. There are others,
like this one, which are potentially dangerous.
Ted Rosenberg
>
> Have you tried the Heart Drops? Or anyone you know?
> At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought that the
> earth was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
>
You are ia ignorent as you are venal - your history is incorrect, and
you are a dangerous fraud
Randy Sigman
> Have you even seen or tried the Heart drops? Don't knock before you
> try!! Keep an open mind.
I do have an open mind. I am just not the fool you take me for. You instill
ZERO confidence in your product. You will likely sell that much of it. Aside
from breaking every rule in the book posting here, you are simply a fraud.
> At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought the world
> was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
The fact that there were visionaries hundreds of years ago does not make
you one of them.
> Which catagory do you fall into?
smarter than you, I'd guess. I don't have hundreds of gallons of worthless
crap to unload. :)
> In article <kYcB4.2$5K2....@news.pcnet.com>,
> Randy Sigman <rsi...@pcnet1.pcnet.com> wrote:
>> In misc.health.diabetes Ted Windsor <tg...@home.com> wrote:
>> > My wife is using the Strauss Heart Drops and has already noticed a
>> > difference in her blood count, she has Diabetes.
>> > Ted
>>
>> So you are saying that heart drops cause diabetes. Thanks for warning
>> us. Now even the 1% of idiots who might have fallen for the snake oil
>> will know better!
>>
>>
Randy Sigman
got my diabetes!
hemmi...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Have you tried the Heart Drops? Or anyone you know?
> At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought that the
> earth was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
> Which one of these are you?
> In article <kYcB4.2$5K2....@news.pcnet.com>,
Just Me
>
>
>Have you even seen or tried the Heart drops? Don't knock before you
>try!! Keep an open mind.
>
>At one time all the intellectual people in the world thought the world
>was flat. Only a few heritics thought otherwise.
>
>Which catagory do you fall into?
>
>
Would you believe intelligent? You are using an old familiar put down, that if
I don't agree with you, I am a heretic, and should be avoided. Yet you have no
proof and none exists in the scientific field as to the effectiveness of your so
called nostrum. Why don't you get lost!!
Neil Wen
I'd like to find out if there is any conference concerning
biological pharmacy, immunity, microbacteria, infecious disease, cancer
therapy in Canada especially in GTA this year. If any choice, please contact
me.
(E-mail:nei...@hotmail.com or wenji...@hotmail.com)
Thanks
Neil
Ted Windsor <tg...@home.com> wrote in message
news:38D420DC...@home.com...
> My wife is using the Strauss Heart Drops and has already noticed a
> difference in her blood count, she has Diabetes.
> Ted
>
Ted Windsor
pharmaceutical company or have been educated to a degree of stupidity. I
sincerely hope that none of you are ever in the position of having a
serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
problems? The best thing you could do for them is to let them try
Strauss Heart Drops. If you were to do this, it would be interesting to
hear your opinion as to the results.
Blessings
Ted
Doug Bailey
>Bless you Mr. Rosenberg!
<Massive drivel snipped>
Not to belabour the obvious, Ted, but if there were the slightest
degree of validity to the crap you're promoting, you wouldn't have to
promote it on a usenet newsgroup. Since you do, there isn't. Just for
amusements sake I'm forwarding copies of your postings to the Consumer
Fraud Division of the State Attorney General's office.
We don't need con-men, spammers or snake oil salesmen here.
Bob Stewart
Wendy H
Doug Bailey wrote:
And, as I posted the last time this asshole or one of his buddies posted
about this crap, people on blood thinners should be ESPECIALLY careful
about it, since it contains herbal remedies which are known for their
blood thinning properties and could cause serious consequences -- yes,
even death -- if mixed with a blood thinner like coumadin. This despite
the fact that their website asserts that it's perfectly harmless to be
combined with prescription medicines. (But I'm sure they just say that
so the unsuspecting souls who buy it won't think it necessary to mention
it to their doctors, who would TELL them that it's useless, worthless
crap.)
These Strauss drops are nothing more than a combination of common herbal
remedies, most of which are known to "increase circulation" -- the way
they seem to do it, according to scientific studies, is by thinning the
blood. It never ceases to amaze me that people will believe that an
herbal remedy is potent enough to do some good but NOT potent enough to
do some harm. That's not the way it works, either in the world of herbal
remedies or prescription medications. There's a yin for every yang.
Wendy
--
Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.
Wendy H
Ted Windsor wrote:
> . I
> incerely hope that none of you are ever in the position of having a
> serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
> watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
> problems?
No, I don't enjoy watching my friends die, which is why I'd never recommend
your crap to any of them.
By the way, do you think you could possibly crosspost to any more
newsgroups? I think you missed a few. misc.support.chihuahuaowners might
be interested in hearing from you as well. Sure sign of a spammer -- count
the crossposts.
Get lost.
Bob Stewart
prescribe something as serious as heart remedies?
"Ted Windsor" <tg...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3901BD0D...@home.com...
> Bless you Mr. Rosenberg! You Wendy, and Charles must either work for a
> pharmaceutical company or have been educated to a degree of stupidity. I
> serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
> watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
Just Me
>Bless you Mr. Rosenberg! You Wendy, and Charles must either work for a
>pharmaceutical company or have been educated to a degree of stupidity. I
>sincerely hope that none of you are ever in the position of having a
>serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
>watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
>problems? The best thing you could do for them is to let them try
>Strauss Heart Drops. If you were to do this, it would be interesting to
>hear your opinion as to the results.
>Blessings
>Ted
>
>Ted Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> Ted Windsor wrote:
>> >
>> > <spam snipped>
>>
>> More crap from Ted Windsor's Snake Oil Sales
This guy has been here before. He was exposed, and now he is exposed again for
an obvious fraud, and as a reward, we are all called names, in a vain attempt to
make us look bad. He says that the best thing we can do for humanity is to let
this liar pander his trash. We don't want opinions. . . we need reality since
our problem is not a fantasy.
Charles Evans
> pharmaceutical company or have been educated to a degree of stupidity.
I worked for one of America's largest corporations for 38 years and retired
as a respectable member of middle-management of that company. I then
established my own corporation, which grew into a multi-million dollar,
multi-national company before I retired as CEO three years ago.
There was nothing particularly distinguishing about my education, except it
helped me realize the foregoing accomplishments. I can hardly think that
would be considered to have been "educated to a degree of stupidity."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>I sincerely hope that none of you are ever in the position of having a
> serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
> watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
> problems?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Well, let's see.
How about a disabling heart attack that took away 40% of the heart capacity?
How about carotid artery disease that created 90% blockage of one of the
arteries, requiring surgery?
How about subsequent coronary blockage requiring an angioplasty and
insertion of a stent?
How about peripheral artery disease that, coupled with neuropathy, restricts
the ability to walk any distance?
Are *these* the types of serious health challenges you hope I never have?
Sorry, been there and done that -- without your cockamamie elixir -- and
survived.
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>The best thing you could do for them is to let them try
> Strauss Heart Drops. If you were to do this, it would be interesting to
> hear your opinion as to the results.
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The best thing I can do, and have done, is to encourage my friends and
relatives to seek competent medical treatment form a bona fide medical
professional -- not some itinerant peddler, who tries to take advantage of
the aged, ill, and others, who can be whipped up into a frenzy by your scare
tactics and claims, unsupported by medical proof.
One of my doctors in Houston went to Russia as a part of the team with
Michael DeBakey in the Boris Yeltsin surgery 2 or 3 years ago. Should I try
to have him contact DeBakey and tell him that he's been doing it wrong all
these years?
I really don't know what kind of a person can, without any pangs of
conscience, prey off people, who cannot help themselves. You should be
ashamed ! ! ! ! Now, get lost.
Charles Evans
Ted Windsor
charged twice in Canada, first by Health Canada and second by the B.C
Medical Association, for practicing medicine without a licenses, in both
cases the charges were dropped. This is a health news group and therefore
should be promoting any articles that provide an answer that will improve
a persons health, I cannot understand why certain individuals are against
this. If any information is provided that you don't approve of just
ignore it, and move on to the next posting.
Blessings
Ted
Doug Bailey wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:58:01 GMT, Ted Windsor <tg...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Bless you Mr. Rosenberg!
>
Ted Windsor
of heart disease.
Blessings
Ted
Bob Stewart wrote:
> Ted, are you a doctor, or have some sort of medical training, to be able to
> prescribe something as serious as heart remedies?
> "Ted Windsor" <tg...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:3901BD0D...@home.com...
> > Bless you Mr. Rosenberg! You Wendy, and Charles must either work for a
> > pharmaceutical company or have been educated to a degree of stupidity. I
> > sincerely hope that none of you are ever in the position of having a
> > serious health challenge, all of you must also get a kick out of
> > watching your friends die, surely you know one person with heart
> > problems? The best thing you could do for them is to let them try
> > Strauss Heart Drops. If you were to do this, it would be interesting to
> > hear your opinion as to the results.
Guy Williams
>Bob: I promote exactly what Jim Strauss states. He guarantees to cure any kind
>of heart disease.
>Blessings
>Ted
>
>From Guy Williams
I reserve any opinion of what you said.
However it is obvious that your postings are not welcome
here. Any reasonable person would get the message.
You have had your say. Please cease to bother
us.
I must say that there are certain standards of conduct
that I adhere to. As I am far into the game this I can
be proud for. I fail to understand a lot of people. The
short time gains that I might have realized by other
conduct are meaningless for me now.
Danieljsza
>From: Ted Windsor tg...@home.com
>Date: 4/26/2000 1:25 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <390733C4...@home.com>
BUT you are violating the charter of this group by promoting a commercial
product for sale so it is illegal for you to sell or promote them here.
Violating the charters of newsgroups can lead to your isp cancelling your
account if enough people complain and one thing is certain about M.H.D.
people will complain.
Complaints have been entered into the state attorney's office here and have
been sent to FDA and FTC about your posts and harrassments of the people here
that have at first kindly asked you to stop posting.
You are making medical claims about a non-medical product which is clearly
against the law.
AKA dani...@midkan.net T2 14 yrs(orals for 13 1/2) now on insulin(R+N)
Doug Bailey
<drivel snipped>
Since you give the appearance of being cognitively challenged, perhaps
I should repeat the simple premise I stated to you which apparently
provoked your current round of drivel:
IF THERE WAS THE SLIGHTEST SHRED OF VALIDITY TO THE CRAP YOU PURVEY,
YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO SHILL IT IN A USENET NEWSGROUP. SINCE YOU
APPARENTLY DO NEED TO SHILL IT IN A USENET NEWSGROUP, PRIMA FACIE,
THERE IS NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER TO YOUR SILLY CLAIMS.
Thank you, go away, and stop trying to deceive decent people.