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Carbohydrates for People who have any of the High Glucose Conditions

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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER

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Jul 10, 2013, 9:34:37 PM7/10/13
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Dr. Richard Bernstein, the promoter of the
dire low carbohydrate approach to dealing
with any of the High Glucose Conditions,
he'd likely be aghast at the following.

Most nutritionists and experts in dealing
with High Glucose Conditions, they like-
wise support well-balanced diets, and
carbs sufficient to provide well-balanced
diets, though not too many in order to
reduce the odds the glucose will go too
high.

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July 10, 2013

Nutrition Q&A: Should I Avoid Carbs If
I Have ... [any of the High Glucose Condi-
tions (i.e., Insulinitis, old name: type 1 dia-
betes, Cellosis, old name: type 2 diabetes,
Diminosis, old name: Mature Onset Dia-
betes of the Young, and others)]
http://www.wawa-news.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18448:wfht-nutrition-qaa-should-i-avoid-carbs-if-i-have-diabetes&catid=163:health&Itemid=278
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Excerpts [with inserts, not part of original
article, included in brackets]:

Carbohydrates are found in many foods.
When you eat carbohydrates, your body
breaks them down into ... [glucose], which
raises the level of ... [glucose] in your
blood.

A common belief is that people with [see
above] should eat very little, or no carbo-
hydrates because of their effect on blood
... [glucose] levels. [I doubt that that's a
common belief, but anyway, I don't think
anyone believes in no carbohydrates,
and only extremists like Dr. Richard
Bernstein support dire low carb diets
as a fundamental ongoing lifelong way
to deal with having Insulinitis, Cellosis,
Diminosis, or any other High Glucose
Condition]

This is a myth. People with [any of the
High Glucose Conditions] should eat
a balanced diet that includes carbohy-
drates. While all foods contain some
carbohydrates, it is grains & starches
(rice, potatoes, corn, pasta, bread, and
cereal), fruit, and milk & alternatives
(cow?s milk, yogurt, soy milk) that con-
tain enough carbohydrates to be con-
sidered sources of carbohydrates.

Meat, fish, and most vegetables contain
very little carbohydrates [uh, some veg-
gies contain a lot of carbs], which in turn
have little effect on blood ... [glucose]
levels.

Carbohydrates are important because
they help to fuel the body during activity.
Foods that contain carbohydrates can
also contain other nutrients, such as
fibre or calcium, which are necessary
for staying healthy. Engaging in a low-
carb diet is not recommended for any-
one. For people with [any of the High
Glucose Conditions] on certain medi-
cations [referring to insulin and to any
oral or injected medication that lowers
glucose levels], not eating enough carbo- ...

... hydrates can lead to blood ... [glucose]
levels that are too low, which causes a
variety of symptoms including shaking
[sometimes, not always], dizziness [some-
times, not always], [reduced or lost cog-
nizance, sometimes, not always] and if
untreated, unconsciousness [and at its
worst, especially in those who have Insul-
initis, it's estimated that up to 11 percent
die from one severe low glucose event
too many].

Because carbohydrates raise blood ...
[glucose] levels, it is recommended that
people with [any of the High Glucose Con-
ditions] eat carbohydrate containing foods
as part of a balanced meal or snack that
includes a source of protein [no, protein
need not be part of a snack, but should
be a part of one's 3 or 4 regular meals
per day]. This helps to stabilize blood
... [glucose] at a normal level and pre-
vents them from rapidly going too high.

[Not sure what she's talking about, as
glucose stabilization is a careful bal-
ancing act between exercise, stress,
diet, other metabolic factors, and insulin
injected or pumped in everyone who has
Insulinitis; as for those with Cellosis and
Diminosis, who have continuing insulin ...

... production, but whose insulin produc-
tion is reduced and/or hampered by
insulin resistance, one's balancing act
is impacted by diet and exercise and in
about 57 percent, by oral medications
alone, and in about 12 percent, insulin
injections and oral medications, and in
about 16 percent, with insulin alone.]

Protein is found in meat and alternatives
including lean meats, fish, beans, tofu,
eggs, and nut butters. ... cheese and
cottage cheese are actually placed in
the meat & alternative group because
they are high in protein. Individuals with
[any of the High Glucose Conditions]
should always include a source of pro-
tein with each meal and snack [once
again, I don't see the point of including
protein in a snack].

...

It needs to be mentioned that cookies,
cake, pop, and other sugary treats are
also sources of carbohydrates; however
these should be chosen less often and
in moderation. [well, I was raised with
a no sugar mindset, and unless dealing
with a serious low glucose event, I try
to avoid sugar, albeit my glucose tabs
I sometimes ingest are as quick a way
to raise glucose as possible, aside from
a glucose injection -or- whatever it is
that EMS personnel inject me with on
some of those unfortunate occasions
when they're involved in one of my
severe low glucose events.]

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vottyguy

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Jul 11, 2013, 7:46:21 AM7/11/13
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" Most nutritionists and experts in dealing
with High Glucose Conditions, they like-
wise support well-balanced diets, and
carbs sufficient to provide well-balanced
diets, though not too many in order to
reduce the odds the glucose will go too
high."

Yep, the exact same approach the doc you mention advises. All you would
have known if you had read his book.

The "not too many" relative to insulin needs is the part he addresses in
his discussion of the law of large and small numbers. This is the cause of
your diabetic type 1 roller coaster problem.
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