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hea...@gold.acns.fsu.edu

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Jun 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/25/95
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We plan to use the 1992 National Health Interview survey, and get the
proportion on the population for each age, sex and racial group, and
extrapolate this to the population of each county. We will further try to
factor in income.

We would like to be able to estimate the (as yet) UNDIAGNOSED cases also.
Has anyone done this analysis, or seen it?

Thanks. Steve Whitaker, Ph.D.

hea...@gold.acns.fsu.edu

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Jun 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/25/95
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Herman Rubin

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Jun 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/26/95
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>Thanks. Steve Whitaker, Ph.D.

I have no idea if this has been done or not.

There are ways of attempting this analysis. They all have
some sort of flaws. For example, I do not think you are
including enough variables; even within races, there can
be considerable genetic variability. It is these, and also
non-compliance, which are the worst causes of error, assuming
a moderate sample size. There are also too many counties.
--
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hru...@stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)

Betty Martini

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Jun 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/26/95
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It is of interest that the book SECRETS OF THE SOIL by Peter Tompkins &
Christopher Bird says: "Diabetes, the third most common cause of death
once struck only one in 50 thousand Americans; now it strikes one in 20."

I don't know where they got their research but if you're looking for
statistics that might be a good place to start. Maybe they have done a
survey. It sounds about right. Since I'm in the field it seems like if
you talk to 10 people 8 of them if not diabetic have someone in their
family who is. Of course, I believe it is because NutraSweet "triggers"
diabetes. And the American Diabetic Assn is recommending it for diabetes
even though it is hazardous to their health. They know it, of course,
because Dr. H. J. Roberts, diabetic specialist, and author of books on
NutraSweet has given them enough research. They refused to publish his
abstract on aspartame reactors because they take money from Monsanto but
it was published in Clinical Research.

Betty Martini
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Speaker-to-Minerals

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Jun 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/27/95
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950626...@noel.pd.org>, Betty Martini <be...@noel.pd.org> writes:
=It is of interest that the book SECRETS OF THE SOIL by Peter Tompkins &
=Christopher Bird says: "Diabetes, the third most common cause of death
=once struck only one in 50 thousand Americans; now it strikes one in 20."
=
=I don't know where they got their research but if you're looking for
=statistics that might be a good place to start. Maybe they have done a
=survey. It sounds about right. Since I'm in the field it seems like if
=you talk to 10 people 8 of them if not diabetic have someone in their
=family who is. Of course, I believe it is because NutraSweet "triggers"
=diabetes.

It couldn't have anything to do with the facts that:
1) Prior to this century, a Type-I diabetic would have a good chance
of dying before being diagnosed; and
2) Type-II, by far the more common type of diabetes, tends to have an
onset relatively late in life, so you'd expect that as lifespan
increases, the rate of diabetes in the population is also likely to
increase
now could it? Nah, of course not. It makes MUCH more sense to believe that a
chemical not introduced until well after the trend began is responsible for the
trend, now doesn't it?
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