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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER

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Nov 1, 2018, 4:16:45 PM11/1/18
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With a huge array of studies about weight,
it depends on where you look as to what
one's ideal weight should be.

This article includes studies and perspec-
tives deviating from most presumptions re-
garding what one's ideal weight should be,
many of those presumptions hatched in the
1980s and 1990s but some of the studies
since 2010 cast doubt on those older pre-
sumptions:

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The following, information difficult to
find elsewhere, but for reasons unknown,
they failed to mention the dangers of
BMI < 18.5:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/databriefs/adultweight.pdf

"In the United States,

o the average adult man has a BMI of 26.6
and

o the average adult woman has a BMI of 26.5"

Notable that a study in 2016 claimed the
longest lifespan was for individuals with
BMI = 27 (see below), very close to the
averages for men & women mentioned above.

Something many fail to notice, the most
unhealthy health condition is being dead,
and despite the fact that over 95% of
the world's population has health prob-
lems, it's certain that the unhealthiest
condition possible is death, so to the ...

... extent that one can come close to
the optimum BMI of 27, one has optimized
one's chances of living longer, per the
study in 2016 (see below, presuming no
unhealthy practices are engaged in to
achieve a BMI close to or = 27).

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BMI, biased judgmental words most often
used to describe the following:

Underweight = BMI (body mass index) < 18.5
Normal weight* = BMI 18.5 to 24.9
Overweight = BMI 25 to 29.9
Obese = BMI 30 or higher

Some break down obesity into
Grade 1 Obesity = BMI 30 to 34.9
Grade 2 Obesity = BMI 35 to 39.9
Grade 3 Obesity = BMI 40 or higher

*Normal weight is sometimes referred
to as healthy weight, as exemplified
by the following graphic which also
associates body forms for males &
females with BMI ranges:
https://tinyurl.com/BMIbodyrangegraphic

Another chart conveying BMI based on height
& weight & judgmental biased names:
https://www.chartsgraphsdiagrams.com/HealthCharts/images/bmi-status-english.png

The underweight, normal weight, overweight,
& obese words are judgmental, invoking bias
and promoting something (so-called normal)
that may not be tied to longest life.

For example, an unknown percent are in the
so-called 'normal' (which sometimes is called
'healthy') weight range 'cause smoking helps
them be there.

Obviously unhealthy, that.

Also, in the category called overweight,
the optimum lifespan is included, per the
following (and most would consider staying
alive the most important measure of health,
so that is the HEALTHIEST weight possible):

Lowest rate of all-cause early death?

A BMI of 27

The 30 percent greater risk of dying early
if one is obese, found in the 1970s? Gone,
the death rate from obesity is now identical
to the death rate of normal weight indivi-
duals.

Put in BMI terms:

o Longest life = BMI 25 to 29.9
o 2nd longest life = BMI 18.5 to 24.9
and BMI 30 and above (dubious, I've
found evidence that only BMI 30 to 34.9
qualifies, with chances of shorter life
increased at BMI 35 to 39.9, and in-
creased again at BMI 40 and above)
o Shortest life = BMI < 18.5

Questionable, the single BMI 30 & higher
category, as just as one's lifespan is at
greater risk at BMI < 18.5 and in those
whose BMI is on the low side of 18.5 to
24.9, nearing the highest danger BMI, ...

... it's all-but-certain that BMI 30 &
higher becomes riskier the higher one's
BMI is, even though that was unmentioned
in the following study:

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May 10, 2016

Risk of dying early for any reason
is now the same among obese individuals
as it is among normal-weight individuals
http://www.webmd.com/diet/obesity/20160510/obesity-may-inoti-take-years-off-your-life-study
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Unaddressed in the above weight data, the
impact of having any of the disparate High
Glucose Conditions. The following -2- arti-
cles support the notion that in those who
have Cellosis or Islit (Insulinitis), over-
weight offers longer life than normal weight, ...

... and underweight is the riskiest weight:

Excerpts [with inserts, not part of original
articles, included in brackets]:

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May 5, 2016

The Paradoxical Connection Between
Overweight and [Cellosis]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/overweight-diabetes-mortality_n_7208146.html
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Patients with [Cellosis] who are overweight
but not obese outlive [Cellosis individuals]
of normal weight.

... Underweight [Cellosis individuals] had
the highest risk of dying during the study,
with nearly three times the mortality of
normal-weight patients.

Overweight patients had the best survival,
being 13 percent less likely to die than
normal-weight or obese [Cellosis indivi-
duals].

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June 6, 2008

Weight gain no big deal in
[Islit (abbreviation for
Insulinitis)]: study
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-diabetes-weight-idUSN0547463120080607
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Becoming overweight or obese may not be so
bad for people who are battling [Islit]
... People who put on weight over time were
less likely to die than others studied, and
those classified as underweight were at the
greatest risk for death ...

Even people who were technically obese were
less likely to die if they had [Islit] ...

"Those who gained the most weight over time
seemed to have lower mortality than those
who gained less weight or lost weight" ...

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The following article, one part of it sup-
ports the Cellosis article above:

"In one study of type 2 diabetes [Cellosis]
patients, those with normal weight when diag-
nosed were more likely to die than those who
were overweight or obese."

Another part of it supports the 2016 study
above:

"And a 2013 meta-analysis of 97 studies found
that being overweight was associated with
lower risk of death than having a normal BMI
- a surprising finding that echoed a 2005
study by the same researchers."

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January 2, 2013

[Assessing] All-Cause Mortality [of
Body Mass Index categories - lower
risk of death for BMI 25 to 29.9
than for BMI 18.5 to 24.9]

A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1555137
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The old confusing way of referring to the
7 disparate categories of High Glucose Con-
ditions and 1 category of a mostly Non-Glu-
cose Anomaly, all of which all-too-often
currently involves folks using the diabetes
/ diabetic words without a clarifier:

diabetes / diabetic without a clarifier,
diabetes / diabetic guessing required
https://prohuman.net/pix2/diabetesdiabeticguessinggame.jpg

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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER (Insulitis Islit),
I was using a Dexcom G4 Continuous Glucose
Monitor (CGM) -and- an Omnipod Insulin Pump
with ultra-fast-acting insulin Fiasp to try
to survive the total loss of endogenous
insulin.

However, job loss and loss of health insur-
ance have forced me to give up the insulin
pump, switch back to insulin injections
(NPH & Regular insulin), and to switch to
using a relatively inexpensive Freestyle
Libre CGM (over $4,000 per year less than
a Dexcom G6 CGM).

Exogenous insulin is required to try to
keep everyone with Insulinitis (Islit, at
least 11 specific types), alive but it is
a very risky medication, with exogenous
insulin the primary factor that causes
severe hypo death in an estimated 5% to
11% of those with Islit.

Also, absence of or too low doses of exo-
genous insulin are certain killers (caus-
ing coma / ketoacidosis / death) in those
who have Islit (any specific type).

C.ure I.nsulinitis A.ssociation
https://prohuman.net/cureinsulinitisassociation.htm

Glucose Anomalies Research regarding
Potential Cures / Improvements in Treatments
https://prohuman.net/glucoseanomaliesresearch.htm

Logic and reasoning behind trying to stop
confusing / misleading / misunderstanding
caused by the use of diabetes & diabetic &
reactive hypoglycemia words / phrases, ...

... especially when they're used as they
often are, without clarifier, replacing
all of that with new superior clarifying
names:

Diabetes Bubble / Diabetes Bubble Burst
https://prohuman.net/diabetesbubblediabetesbubbleburst.htm

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New superior clarifying names for all
of the disparate diabetes & diabetic &
reactive hypoglycemia conditions added
on May 17, 2010, organized as detailed
below:

3 disparate areas:

o -7- High Glucose Conditions (HGCs),
o -1- Mostly Non-Glucose Anomaly (NGA),
o 1 Low Glucose Condition (LGCs) - Hut
(Hypos Uncaused by Treatments for
High Glucose), + hypos from some
treatments* for high glucose

with 10 disparate new superior clari-
fying categories / conditions:

Islit,
Latent Autoimmune Islit,
PreCellosis,
Cellosis,
Gestational Cellosis,
Diminosis,
Neonatal Diminosis,
Ohiglucons,
Insipidus,
Hut

included in over 100 disparate new
superior clarifying specific types
color-coded in Diabetes Bubble /
Diabetes Bubble Burst article
linked to above & detailed at
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.health.diabetes/oY1NztS3UiU/zud2F8DhAQAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.health.diabetes/oY1NztS3UiU/Mk8vgFAsAgAJ

*hypo-causing treatments: exogenous
insulin, pramlintide, nateglinide,
lixisenatide, repaglinide, sulfon-
ylureas - any of these + exercise
amplifies hypoglycemia risk

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