A Great Money Maker - Scientifically Proven

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David Walton

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Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989

The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
mail order con. The fact is that none of us want to get ripped
by some jerk with nothing else to do but dream these things up.
BUT - if you will take the 5 minutes it took me to read this,
you will see that it really can work - it's all based on the
multiplication factor. Take this week off from Lotto America
and put it here. Your HONESTY and $5.00 WILL get you those
computer upgrades you've been wanting for Christmas.......

BIZMAN DAVE THE MODEM SLAVE
Takoma Park, MD 20912
Can be reached on the best BBS:
DC Follies BBS (202) 232-3379
(Not the Dave mentioned below...)

Dear Friend,

My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was

reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you
wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks
had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of
failure was my Apple computer and my modem. I longed to
turn my advocation into my vocation.

This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day
cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH
in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the
West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a
beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and
patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I
have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars)
to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months.
Anyone can do the same. This money making program works
perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed
to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all

you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or
post office.

In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail
telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever
I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the
letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though,
when you are desparate, backed into a corner, your mind does
crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the
want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse
at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my
Apple computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read
several of the message posts and than glanced at the letter
next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had
the key to my dreams.

I realized that with the power of the computer I could
expand and enhance this money making formula into the most
unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created.
I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the
post office and electronically did by computer what others
were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed
manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to
other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe
that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have
waited for all your life, simply follow the easy
instructions below. Your dreams will come true.

Sincerely yours,

Dave Rhodes

INSTRUCTIONS

Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you
will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours.
This program has remained successful because of the honesty
and integrety of the participants. Please continue its
success by carefully adhering to the instructions.

Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is
a little different than most mail order houses. Your product
is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in
the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large
corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.
(The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the
income which is made from people like yourself requesting
that they be included in that list.)


1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 names listed
below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only
please (total investment $5.00). Enclose a note with each
letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list."
(This is a legitimate service that you
are requesting and you are paying $1.00
for this service).

2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list.
Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will
become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.)
Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10
position.

3) With your name in the number 10 spot, upload this file
to 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards. You may post it
to the BBS's message base or to the file section.
Name it FASTCASH, and use the file description to call
attention to the great potential this has for all of us.

4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in
CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can
use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as
you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail
order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed
on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list
broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional
income on a regular basis. The list will become more
valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is
perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18,
Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.

NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent
to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not
discard the names and notes they send you. This is
PROOF that you are truely providing a service and
should the IRS or some other Government Agency
question you, you can provide them with this PROOF!

Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions
carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for
their participation as a List Developer with one dollar
each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that
when your name reaches the number five position you will be
receiving thousands of dollars in cash.

REMEMBER - THIS PROGRAM FAILS IF YOU ARE NOT HONEST - PLEASE!!

1. Jay Cho 344 Greenspring lane
Silver Spring, MD
20904

2. J. Wright P.O. Box 303
Santa Teresa, NM
88008

3. S. Alexander 4371 Varnum Pl. N. E.
Washington, DC.
20017

4. P. Czajko 161 Westway #203
Greenbelt, MD.
20770

5. Darryl McGinnis P.O. Box 34431
Phoenix, AZ
85067

6. David Larson 2802 E. Shangri-la Rd.
Phoenix, AZ
85028

7. Brian A. Miller 10270 Ft. Churchill
Reno, NV
89506

8. Steve Simmons P.O. Box 91154
Washington, DC.
20090-1154

9. Clifford Arms P.O. Box 3215
Arlington, Virginia
22204

10. David Walton 8302 Garland Avenue #2
Takoma Park, MD
20912

The following letter was written by a participating member
in this program.
A

To Whom It May Concern:

About six months ago I received the enclosed post in
letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of

the same letter withIn the next two weeks. I ignored them
also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and
dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just
another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong!
About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a
local bulletion board in Montreal. I liked the idea of
giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much
because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I,
they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five dollars. But,
I BUY LOTTERY TICKETS WEEKLY IN MY PROVINCE AND HAVE NOTHING
TO SHOW FOR IT BUT TICKET STUBS! This week I decided to
LOOK AT THIS AS MY WEEKLY LOTTERY PURCHASE. I addressed the
envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed.
Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail.
The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what
happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was
definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten
years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it
didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using
this excellent money opportunity once again. FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS AND GET READY TO ENJOY.

PLEASE send a copy of this letter along with the
enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are
skeptical that it really works!

Good Luck,

Charles Kust
St Agathe Que.

Anton Rang

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Nov 13, 1989, 12:16:16 PM11/13/89
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In article <21...@cucstud.UUCP> dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton) writes:
[ pyramid scheme deleted ]

Anyone have the address of the FBI handy?

+----------------------------------+------------------+
| Anton Rang (grad student) | ra...@cs.wisc.edu |
| University of Wisconsin--Madison | |
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anon...@anonymous.arpa

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Nov 13, 1989, 12:47:49 PM11/13/89
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In article <21...@cucstud.UUCP> David Walton (some jerk) writes:
>
>
>Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989
>
> The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
>mail order con. The fact is that none of us want to get ripped
>by some jerk with nothing else to do but dream these things up.
BUT - this is illegal and will anonymously forwarded to the appropriate
authorities. Even though it claims it is legal it is under the guise of
a mailing list, in actuality it is a chain letter which is quite illegal
and it is a form of a fraud since it involves money.

BTW, the key to the false letter is quite obvious. Since electronic medium
is considerably faster than the postal service by a conservative factor
of 7, therefore, you should receive money in days instead of weeks. This was
not the case. By deductive reasoning it is proven to be fraudulent.
--

John Ockerbloom

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Nov 13, 1989, 2:02:58 PM11/13/89
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I am forwarding the referenced article to the Pittsburgh federal postmaster,
as it appears to be evidence for a case of mail fraud. (The thread
so far has involved the US mail in the sending of the money,
and in part for the solicitaion.)

For anyone who hasn't already figured it out, these pyramid schemes
don't work, except for the people at the top of the pyramid. Because of
the exponential growth of persons involved, people low down on the pyramid
soon find they've run out of people to solicit. (If each level
sends the solicitation to 10 new people, the entire world's population
would have received the letter by the 10th level.)

John Ockerbloom
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Robert A. Earl

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Nov 14, 1989, 8:46:33 AM11/14/89
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In article <21...@cucstud.UUCP> dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton) writes:
>
>
>Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989
>
> The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
>mail order con. [rest of MAIL-ORDER CON deleted]

I'm no legal expert, so I don't have any idea if this is truly
LEGAL, but it certainly isn't ethical. IMHO this BS has no place
on USENET. BBS's can decide for themselves, but is there anything
we can do about this guy?

I will be following this up with the USPS.
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UUCP: ...!uunet!wash08!rae98 BITNET: rae98@CAS

Robert A. Earl

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Nov 14, 1989, 9:39:44 AM11/14/89
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In article <1989Nov14.1...@wash08.uucp> ra...@wash08.UUCP (Robert A. Earl) writes:

I have talked to his USENET administrator on 'cucstud'...he says
we can expect an apology from David Walton. We'll see.

The Fugitive

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Nov 14, 1989, 7:16:09 PM11/14/89
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This is a con.... How do I know? read the newsgroup line....
Newsgroups:
misc.forsale,dc.general,misc.invest,misc.jobs.misc,misc.misc,ga.forsale
^^^^^^^^^^
I sincerely doubt any system in maryland would be subscribed to this
group, let alone have someone post to it.... Naaaah, I think we are in
the midst of a practical joker...
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From dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton) Mon Nov 13 04:03:27 1989

Subject: A Great Money Maker - Scientifically Proven

<I can scientificly prove you don't exist. doesn't make it true.>

Keywords: Hey, CASH!

<Johnny doesn't have an account on this system, sir, sorry.

Followup-To: poster
<Covering one's hinee, I see.... Why alter the followup path? (note: I
had to manually fix my followup line)>

Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989

<common folk appeal>


The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
mail order con. The fact is that none of us want to get ripped

<NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!>


by some jerk with nothing else to do but dream these things up.

<I wonder who that is.....>


BUT - if you will take the 5 minutes it took me to read this,
you will see that it really can work - it's all based on the
multiplication factor. Take this week off from Lotto America
and put it here. Your HONESTY and $5.00 WILL get you those
computer upgrades you've been wanting for Christmas.......

<at least with lotto, you have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance>

DC Follies BBS (202) 232-3379

<Has someone checked this bboard out?>

Dear Friend,

<awww. so nice, and I haven't even met the orafice>

My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was
reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you
wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks

This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day


cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH
in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the

<"in December 1989, I was arrested for mail fraud">

I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the
post office and electronically did by computer what others
were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed

<and to think, we thought computer users had intelligence>


valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is
perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18,
Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.

<Has anyone checked this postal law?>

REMEMBER - THIS PROGRAM FAILS IF YOU ARE NOT HONEST - PLEASE!!

<I like this line....>

<a little adress inspection>
Silver Spring, MD
Santa Teresa, NM
Washington, DC.
Greenbelt, MD.
Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Reno, NV
Washington, DC.
Arlington, Virginia
Takoma Park, MD

<Does anyone notice what I notice? >

The following letter was written by a participating member
in this program.

PLEASE send a copy of this letter along with the
enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are
skeptical that it really works!

<like this really tells me a lot>

Charles Kust
St Agathe Que.

<Ah, an international caper>

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Sorry to waste bandwidth, but this kind of thing can be frustrating.
It seems to me that this pyramid scheme is so old that most people
know by now. People still fall for it?

I was mailed a copy of this from a posting I did on
rec.arts.startrek!! This guy is obsessed! If he is for real, we should
nail him from the highest yardarm there is... (personally, I think he
<the perpetrator> is responsible for most names on the list, and that
more than likely he is really the fifth or sixth name on the list, not
the tenth (the guy who illegedley posted))

John Langbein

P.S. SAVE THE LEAP!
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Michael E. Lee

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Nov 14, 1989, 2:38:51 PM11/14/89
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Ahem.

I presume I'm not the only one who is going to point out that this is a
pyramid scheme, but it bears repeating: the only people who make money on
a pyramid scheme are the people who started it. If you send money to any
of these people you are a fool. If you start your own pyramid scheme with
your name at the #1 position, your are merely a thief.

_ K_ r_ i_ l_ l-_ M_ a_ n (tm)
Chief Eunuch, Reese's Peanut Butter Angst
mi...@ontek.com

Kurt Guntheroth

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Nov 15, 1989, 12:08:57 PM11/15/89
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The best thing about this pyramid scheme is that it already has shown
saturation. Remember, the author said in a couple weeks time he had gotten
several copies of the same solicitation? The only thing worse than a pyramid
is a saturated pyramid.

Robert A. Earl

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Nov 16, 1989, 1:09:14 PM11/16/89
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In article <1989Nov14.1...@wash08.uucp> ra...@wash08.UUCP (Robert A. Earl) writes:
>In article <1989Nov14.1...@wash08.uucp> ra...@wash08.UUCP (Robert A. Earl) writes:
>:In article <21...@cucstud.UUCP> dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton) writes:
>:I will be following this up with the USPS.

To followup my last posting:

The USPS is not interested in this, since it doesn't involve mail.

The FBI is looking into this to see if they might be interested.
That is all I know right now.

Mark Robert Smith

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Nov 16, 1989, 6:23:32 PM11/16/89
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In article <1989Nov16.1...@wash08.uucp> ra...@wash08.uucp (Robert A. Earl) writes:

> To followup my last posting:

> The USPS is not interested in this, since it doesn't involve mail.

> The FBI is looking into this to see if they might be interested.
> That is all I know right now.

> Name: Bob Earl Phone: (202) 872-6018 (wk)
> UUCP: ...!uunet!wash08!rae98 BITNET: rae98@CAS

The USPS definately IS interested. I contacted my local postal
inspector, and they asked me to forward the article to them (which I
did). According to them, it is mailfraud, because the scam uses the
mails for part of its system.

Mark
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