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David Walton

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Nov 13, 1989, 11:41:04 PM11/13/89
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Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989

The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
mail order con. The fact is that none of us want to get ripped
by some jerk with nothing else to do but dream these things up.
BUT - if you will take the 5 minutes it took me to read this,
you will see that it really can work - it's all based on the
multiplication factor. Take this week off from Lotto America
and put it here. Your HONESTY and $5.00 WILL get you those
computer upgrades you've been wanting for Christmas.......

BIZMAN DAVE THE MODEM SLAVE
Takoma Park, MD 20912
Can be reached on the best BBS:
DC Follies BBS (202) 232-3379
(Not the Dave mentioned below...)

Dear Friend,

My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was
reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you
wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks
had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of
failure was my Apple computer and my modem. I longed to
turn my advocation into my vocation.

This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day
cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH
in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the
West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a
beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and
patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I
have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars)
to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months.
Anyone can do the same. This money making program works
perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed
to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all
you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or
post office.

In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail
telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever
I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the
letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though,
when you are desparate, backed into a corner, your mind does
crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the
want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse
at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my
Apple computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read
several of the message posts and than glanced at the letter
next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had
the key to my dreams.

I realized that with the power of the computer I could
expand and enhance this money making formula into the most
unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created.
I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the
post office and electronically did by computer what others
were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed
manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to
other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe
that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have
waited for all your life, simply follow the easy
instructions below. Your dreams will come true.

Sincerely yours,

Dave Rhodes

INSTRUCTIONS

Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you
will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours.
This program has remained successful because of the honesty
and integrety of the participants. Please continue its
success by carefully adhering to the instructions.

Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is
a little different than most mail order houses. Your product
is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in
the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large
corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.
(The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the
income which is made from people like yourself requesting
that they be included in that list.)


1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 names listed
below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only
please (total investment $5.00). Enclose a note with each
letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list."
(This is a legitimate service that you
are requesting and you are paying $1.00
for this service).

2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list.
Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will
become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.)
Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10
position.

3) With your name in the number 10 spot, upload this file
to 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards. You may post it
to the BBS's message base or to the file section.
Name it FASTCASH, and use the file description to call
attention to the great potential this has for all of us.

4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in
CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can
use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as
you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail
order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed
on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list
broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional
income on a regular basis. The list will become more
valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is
perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18,
Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.

NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent
to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not
discard the names and notes they send you. This is
PROOF that you are truely providing a service and
should the IRS or some other Government Agency
question you, you can provide them with this PROOF!

Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions
carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for
their participation as a List Developer with one dollar
each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that
when your name reaches the number five position you will be
receiving thousands of dollars in cash.

REMEMBER - THIS PROGRAM FAILS IF YOU ARE NOT HONEST - PLEASE!!

1. Jay Cho 344 Greenspring lane
Silver Spring, MD
20904

2. J. Wright P.O. Box 303
Santa Teresa, NM
88008

3. S. Alexander 4371 Varnum Pl. N. E.
Washington, DC.
20017

4. P. Czajko 161 Westway #203
Greenbelt, MD.
20770

5. Darryl McGinnis P.O. Box 34431
Phoenix, AZ
85067

6. David Larson 2802 E. Shangri-la Rd.
Phoenix, AZ
85028

7. Brian A. Miller 10270 Ft. Churchill
Reno, NV
89506

8. Steve Simmons P.O. Box 91154
Washington, DC.
20090-1154

9. Clifford Arms P.O. Box 3215
Arlington, Virginia
22204

10. David Walton 8302 Garland Avenue #2
Takoma Park, MD
20912

The following letter was written by a participating member
in this program.
A

To Whom It May Concern:

About six months ago I received the enclosed post in
letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of

the same letter withIn the next two weeks. I ignored them
also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and
dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just
another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong!
About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a
local bulletion board in Montreal. I liked the idea of
giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much
because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I,
they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five dollars. But,
I BUY LOTTERY TICKETS WEEKLY IN MY PROVINCE AND HAVE NOTHING
TO SHOW FOR IT BUT TICKET STUBS! This week I decided to
LOOK AT THIS AS MY WEEKLY LOTTERY PURCHASE. I addressed the
envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed.
Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail.
The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what
happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was
definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten
years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it
didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using
this excellent money opportunity once again. FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS AND GET READY TO ENJOY.

PLEASE send a copy of this letter along with the
enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are
skeptical that it really works!

Good Luck,

Charles Kust
St Agathe Que.

ke...@seas.gwu.edu

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Nov 14, 1989, 9:58:44 AM11/14/89
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I forwarded a copy of the article "Great money maker!" to the manager
of cucstud.UUCP.

Hopefully this will save others the time and expense of doing the same.

John Kelso

Dave Bakken

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Nov 14, 1989, 11:41:58 AM11/14/89
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This is a chain letter, undoubtedly illegal, so don't send
money as he advises. I have complained to various sites
along the news path on which this travelled, and expect
very swift action. This sort of thing could really hurt
USENET if not nipped in the bud.
--
Dave Bakken Internet: bak...@cs.arizona.edu
721 Gould-Simpson Bldg UUCP: uunet!arizona!bakken
Dept of Computer Science; U of Arizona Phone: +1 602 621 8372 (w)
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA FAX: +1 602 621 4246

Kevin William Ryan

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Nov 14, 1989, 12:21:50 PM11/14/89
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ALERT!! CHAIN LETTER WARNING!!

>From: dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton)
>Subject: Great money maker!
>Date: 14 Nov 89 04:41:04 GMT

>Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989

> The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
>mail order con. The fact is that none of us want to get ripped
>by some jerk with nothing else to do but dream these things up.
>BUT - if you will take the 5 minutes it took me to read this,
>you will see that it really can work - it's all based on the
>multiplication factor. Take this week off from Lotto America
>and put it here. Your HONESTY and $5.00 WILL get you those
>computer upgrades you've been wanting for Christmas.......

> BIZMAN DAVE THE MODEM SLAVE
> Takoma Park, MD 20912
> Can be reached on the best BBS:
> DC Follies BBS (202) 232-3379
> (Not the Dave mentioned below...)

[much crud deleted...]

> 1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 names listed
> below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only
> please (total investment $5.00). Enclose a note with each
> letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list."
> (This is a legitimate service that you
> are requesting and you are paying $1.00
> for this service).

> 2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list.
> Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will
> become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.)
> Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10
> position.

> 3) With your name in the number 10 spot, upload this file
> to 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards. You may post it
> to the BBS's message base or to the file section.
> Name it FASTCASH, and use the file description to call
> attention to the great potential this has for all of us.

[much more, including addresses to send money to...]

This is a chain letter - something which is (as I recall)
grounds for having your internet access removed permanently.
In all such schemes the first one or two people on the chain
get something and the people at the bottom just lose. The
US Mail considers these illegal. DO NOT PARTICIPATE!
Odds are you will lose $, and run the risk of exceedingly bad
karma from the network administrators (of whatever net you're
on).

Kevin Ryan
kr...@andrew.cmu.edu

Kris Chubb

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Nov 14, 1989, 3:33:51 PM11/14/89
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In article <15...@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> bak...@megaron.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>This is a chain letter, undoubtedly illegal, so don't send
>money as he advises. I have complained to various sites
>along the news path on which this travelled, and expect
>very swift action. This sort of thing could really hurt
>USENET if not nipped in the bud.


I don't believe that this is a chain letter of the illegal sort
(technically, because you are paying for a service). But who the hell
wants to pay to be put on a mailing list (and have to pay for it to boot)
that's going to go to every place that you haven't gotten junk mail from
yet, and maybe even some that you have. I would pay the dollar (or $5) to
get my name taken off of some of them. Anybody want to try starting that
service? Oh well, it was worth a try.

No .sig yet, maybe tomorrow.
Kris

Daniel Lawrence

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Nov 14, 1989, 3:57:06 PM11/14/89
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In article <21...@cucstud.UUCP> dwa...@cucstud.UUCP (David Walton) writes:
>
>
>Fellow Debtor: November 13, 1989
>
> The following document is going to sound EXACTLY like a
>mail order con.

quite true....

> [cover letter......

> instructions for a pyramid money scheme using BBS
> systems instead of the US mail]

I am really amazed just how people attempt to justify this kind
of thing. Dave claims that this "procedure" will net him $50,000
dollars legally. Well, perhaps this is true, but it is certainly not
moral. That $50,000 does not materialize out of the thin air.... it
comes from 50,000 people sending him $1. Does each one of these 50,000
people go on to make $50,000? Of course not. One iteration of this tree
would involve 2,500,000,000 people in the second level, a rather
significant proportion of the people on this planet.

Further more, having run a BBS system for 4 years I would be
very upset at someone using my machine, time, phone costs and disk space
for his own money making scheme. Again, a case of someone attempting to
get something for nothing, which ends up bilking others out of cash and
taking adventage of BBS owners hospitality.

Everyone should remember just what this guy is after before
sending him cash. Don't let this kind of greed florish.

Daniel Lawrence voice: (317) 742-5153
arpa: d...@midas.mgmt.purdue.edu
The Programmer's Room
Fido: 1:201/10 - (317) 742-5533

Mark Robert Smith

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Nov 14, 1989, 2:53:03 PM11/14/89
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I am also forwarding the second posting of the same article to the
Postal Inspector of New Brunswick, NJ.

Mark
--
Mark Smith, KNJ2LH All Rights Reserved
RPO 1604 You may redistribute this article only if those who
P.O. Box 5063 receive it may do so freely.
New Brunswick, NJ 08903-5063 msm...@topaz.rutgers.edu

Bruce Becker

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Nov 15, 1989, 11:35:42 AM11/15/89
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In article <Nov.14.14.52...@topaz.rutgers.edu> msm...@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) writes:
|I am also forwarding the second posting of the same article to the
|Postal Inspector of New Brunswick, NJ.

What the f*ck does the Postal Inspector have
to do with UseNet?

You will just confuse the poor guy. If he
figures out some action to take, it's possible
a lot of Usenet folk will be unfairly hassled.

In the long run, I don't think the spectre
of the Post Office administering Usenet is
particularly appealing.

snort,
--
.::. Bruce Becker Toronto, Ont.
w \@@/ Internet: b...@becker.UUCP, br...@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
`/c/-e BitNet: BEC...@HUMBER.BITNET
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